Allen Outlet Mall Massacre

[crash_davis 23156]

4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Hand grenades?   

Vucic said that approximately half of the arms collected since last week had been held illegally, while the other half were registered weapons that citizens nonetheless decided to part with.

Half of the items were illegal (assuming the grenades and full auto referenced).  wow. 

 

 

Former Yugo was embattled in a civil war for most of the 90s. Serbia were the assholes of that war. I imagine there are/were a shitton of "illegal" shit people still had in possession from that war.

[crash_davis 23156]

...meanwhile, this is America.

[YGIFS 19453]

^
Where in the fucking fuck is that photo from?  

(besides the jerkoff file folder of Fondren&Main)

Edited May 15, 2023 by YGIFS

[fattyflattie 4639]

2 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

 

Former Yugo was embattled in a civil war for most of the 90s. Serbia were the assholes of that war. I imagine there are/were a shitton of "illegal" shit people still had in possession from that war.

Yeah, I got that.  But was just surprised at the 50%.   Seems like some of them would have got drunk and let some of those grenades fly at some point.  And maybe they did.  Obviously back to back school shootings in a place where it never happens spurred this, just crazy to think 7k+ autos and grenades were floating around.  Maybe I'm naïve, but I wouldn't imagine there's 7k grenades being stored across the US. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Obviously back to back school shootings in a place where it never happens spurred this

To wit, on some Serbian message board there’s a moron wanting to see stats on the deaths that don’t include 18 and 19 year olds.

[YGIFS 19453]

Uh, there's way more 7k grenades in circulation in the U.S.  I can tell you where tens of thousands are located illegally right now.  That more aren't used in crimes, to your point, is fucking weird and I'm not sure why they haven't been employed more often.  I think we have a gun fetish but something about bright lights and loud noises weirds us out.

[fattyflattie 4639]

1 minute ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

To wit, on some Serbian message board there’s a moron wanting to see stats on the deaths that don’t include 18 and 19 year olds.

Or avoiding discussing the crime stats in Belgrade. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Or avoiding discussing the crime stats in Belgrade. 

Lol you cunt. We should most definitely talk about any place in the US where gun violence is a problem.

But then we’d have to actually agree that gun violence is a problem. But it won’t be for you until your kids’ blood is shed.

[fattyflattie 4639]

8 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Lol you cunt. We should most definitely talk about any place in the US where gun violence is a problem.

But then we’d have to actually agree that gun violence is a problem. But it won’t be for you until your kids’ blood is shed.

Lol, figured you'd enjoy that. 

We do have a problem.  Let's figure out how to solve it.  I have a great idea, and it could go into effect tomorrow.  Let's enforce our existing gun laws.  OK, now, what's next. 

[fattyflattie 4639]

Just now, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

I know I KNOW! We'll wait for GOP representatives to bring forth common sense gun reform policies!

Oof.  Well might have to wait a minute.  I bet they'll come right after anything of common sense comes from across the aisle. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Oof.  Well might have to wait a minute.  I bet they'll come right after anything of common sense comes from across the aisle. 

well shucks! oh well.

[Hermanator 7286]

29 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Lol you cunt. We should most definitely talk about any place in the US where gun violence is a problem.

But then we’d have to actually agree that gun violence is a problem. But it won’t be for you until your kids’ blood is shed.

[Deej 77172]

35 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Uh, there's way more 7k grenades in circulation in the U.S.  I can tell you where tens of thousands are located illegally right now.  That more aren't used in crimes, to your point, is fucking weird and I'm not sure why they haven't been employed more often.  I think we have a gun fetish but something about bright lights and loud noises weirds us out.

[Fondren & Main 6763]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

...meanwhile, this is America.

[Deej 77172]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

...meanwhile, this is America.

"Jesus took the five rifles and two handguns and looked up to heaven, blessing them. Then he gave the guns to the disciples, who in turn gave them to the crowds of people. They all shot and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up twelve baskets full of spent shell casings."

Edited May 15, 2023 by Deej

[Beau Vine 54849]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

...meanwhile, this is America.

No one loved guns more than Jesus Christ himself!  It's in the Bible!

[crash_davis 23156]

35 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

No one loved guns more than Jesus Christ himself!  It's in the Bible!

and he loved capitalism more than the Jews. Wait, he was a Jew so that splains it!!!!!!!!!

[YGIFS 19453]

3 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

Is that your vinegar strokes face?   

[ultimaton 2983]

4 hours ago, Deej said:

"Jesus took the five rifles and two handguns and looked up to heaven, blessing them. Then he gave the guns to the disciples, who in turn gave them to the crowds of people. They all shot and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up twelve baskets full of spent shell casings."

[Surly Bevo 25514]

Ethnic cleansers are turning in guns, but here...nah

[Murfdogg21 4482]

[speed817 19585]

5 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

[YGIFS 19453]

10 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Ethnic cleansers are turning in guns, but here...nah

this is a sarcastic, but valid point.  Literal genocidal maniacs voluntarily surrendered arms knowing full well the families of the people they murdered en masse may one day come for revenge.  Nobody is asking any American to surrender any legally owned firearms, maybe that we just stop giving military grade weapons to young men with too many chromosomes on credit.  With the idea they quit hunting minorities and small children.  But apparently that has a 100% correlation to how you defend your home? 

How you say "Da Fuh?" in Serbian?    

[JOSEYWALES66 1836]

Bodycam footage from the officer.  

 Allen Shooter Taken Down

 

[4th and 5 4926]

dude needs to work on his cardio

[Lat22 4051]

He went straight from flirting with a mom to killing a mass murderer.  Pretty impressive transition.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Against my better judgement I watched that. Looks like one of those shoot’em up video games.

Crazy we’ve decided this is the society we want to live in. Oh well, pretty decent run we had.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

1 hour ago, Lat22 said:

He went straight from flirting with a mom to killing a mass murderer.  Pretty impressive transition.

yeah, that was a good job by the officer.  just a second or two to process the sounds and decide they were in fact gunfire, went straight into action.  

 

 

(*aside, but it makes me think of uvalde again.  this guy was all alone doing this.  uvalde had hundreds of folks. the power of mass suggestion.  someone decided to be a coward in uvalde and it just spread to everyone.  no one had the ability to break through.  here, there was no one to tell this guy what he was doing was crazy, so he just went for it.)

[Braff Zacklin 13672]

1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Crazy we’ve decided this is the society we want to live in.

That is a poignant statement. Unfortunately, I've no clue how the situation can be fixed.

My father was a gunsmith and self-professed gun nut. He enjoyed hunting, but more than anything else, he loved--absolutely adored--target shooting and match competition.

Even today, his brain riddled with dementia and with but a few neurons intact, he'll ask me, "When was the last time you shot?"

Thing is, I never shared his love--or lunacy--for firearms. They are tools to me.

I own a deer rifle (Brno Mauser action paired with a .308 Israeli barrel--my father's sense of irony), two shotguns (one side-by-side break-action; the other a completely pointless muzzleloading blackpowder), and two pistols (M1911 and a Makarov chambered in .380, both relics of a bygone era).

I very, very rarely use any of them.

The 1911 accompanies me, carried openly, on trips into bear country (even though .45 ACP is absolutely not an ideal round for that purpose), and once every couple of years I might bust some clay pigeons with friends. (I keep buying combination licenses with the intent of hunting grouse or pheasant but, nearly 20 years of living in Idaho, I've yet to do so. Maybe one day.)

I don't attend matches or gun shows. I also don't conceal carry.

So it's safe to categorize me as a casual gun owner. Super casual, probably.

Yet if a federal or state government made it illegal for me to possess firearms and demanded that I surrender them, I would dig a hole in the basement or open up a wall and hide them. I would never voluntarily give them up.

This isn't an example of a dual-AK-flaunting, lifetime-NRA-membership-having, dress-up-in-tacti--cool-gear-and-play-pretend-warrior-every-weekend kind of zealot. This is a centrist who seldom uses any of his firearms and thinks the above are insane and the gun abolitionists ignorant and naive.

So I don't know how we roll things back. Whatever middle ground existed seems to have eroded away. We're left with two disparate groups--one that believes the common man has the right to be outfitted as if he were a soldier going to war, and the other that stares at you cross-eyed for owning a water pistol.

Anyway, I applaud that officer for his courage in neutralizing the mall shooter and for trying to mack on a mom who was obviously way out of his league.

[NoRagrets 1133]

Cop is a hero. He saved a ton of lives. We need more guys like this in the world, and less incel db’s armed with assault rifles.

[Brisketexan 105572]

8 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

We need more guys like this in the world, and less incel db’s armed with assault rifles.

Prepare to be disappointed in both respects.

[YGIFS 19453]

10 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

Cop is a hero. He saved a ton of lives. We need more guys like this in the world, and less incel db’s armed with assault rifles.

And tomorrow morning, this state will find a way to make it harder for police to do their job, and make it easier for young men to own military grade firepower on layaway.

[HonkeyVape 107]

1 hour ago, NoRagrets said:

Cop is a hero. He saved a ton of lives. We need more guys like this in the world, and less incel db’s armed with assault rifles.

That last minute, as those gun shots were LOUD, and walking into that willingly, to help people. It is nothing short of heroic. And it's nothing short of being a civilian soldier in a war setting. It's pretty crazy to see that, impressed with this officer and left me very, very sad.

[MrBig 5507]

This cop was calm as fuck. I would be surprised if he didn’t have any military training. 

[RPM 26429]

Too bad the unarmed Security Guard that was killed rescuing innocent people wasn't wearing a bodycam. Really pisses me off he was just considered another victim.

Edited June 30, 2023 by RPM

[Helobious 9503]

Ha. Looks like it was a black cop that dropped this racist asshole. Didn’t even put up a fight either, he was killed pretty easily judging from the vid.

[Armybrat 40993]

Good job, Officer.

[Armybrat 40993]

19 hours ago, YGIFS said:

And tomorrow morning, lawyers will find a way to make it harder for police to do their job.

Fify.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Watching that video, I’m struck by how it started: A cop talking to a group of little kids about the importance of taking a safety measure to protect themselves.

The backdrop of “hey kids stay safe out there” within a society armed to the teeth with some 450 million guns designed to kill humans is just sad.

 

[4th&Five 41701]

22 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

That is a poignant statement. Unfortunately, I've no clue how the situation can be fixed.

My father was a gunsmith and self-professed gun nut. He enjoyed hunting, but more than anything else, he loved--absolutely adored--target shooting and match competition.

Even today, his brain riddled with dementia and with but a few neurons intact, he'll ask me, "When was the last time you shot?"

Thing is, I never shared his love--or lunacy--for firearms. They are tools to me.

I own a deer rifle (Brno Mauser action paired with a .308 Israeli barrel--my father's sense of irony), two shotguns (one side-by-side break-action; the other a completely pointless muzzleloading blackpowder), and two pistols (M1911 and a Makarov chambered in .380, both relics of a bygone era).

I very, very rarely use any of them.

The 1911 accompanies me, carried openly, on trips into bear country (even though .45 ACP is absolutely not an ideal round for that purpose), and once every couple of years I might bust some clay pigeons with friends. (I keep buying combination licenses with the intent of hunting grouse or pheasant but, nearly 20 years of living in Idaho, I've yet to do so. Maybe one day.)

I don't attend matches or gun shows. I also don't conceal carry.

So it's safe to categorize me as a casual gun owner. Super casual, probably.

Yet if a federal or state government made it illegal for me to possess firearms and demanded that I surrender them, I would dig a hole in the basement or open up a wall and hide them. I would never voluntarily give them up.

This isn't an example of a dual-AK-flaunting, lifetime-NRA-membership-having, dress-up-in-tacti--cool-gear-and-play-pretend-warrior-every-weekend kind of zealot. This is a centrist who seldom uses any of his firearms and thinks the above are insane and the gun abolitionists ignorant and naive.

So I don't know how we roll things back. Whatever middle ground existed seems to have eroded away. We're left with two disparate groups--one that believes the common man has the right to be outfitted as if he were a soldier going to war, and the other that stares at you cross-eyed for owning a water pistol.

Anyway, I applaud that officer for his courage in neutralizing the mall shooter and for trying to mack on a mom who was obviously way out of his league.

I think there is middle ground on this issue though.  The vast majority of people are fine with gun ownership but draw the line at anyone being able to stockpile "weapons of war."

[huge 3799]

2 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I think there is middle ground on this issue though.  The vast majority of people are fine with gun ownership but draw the line at anyone being able to stockpile "weapons of war."

Get the fuck out of here with that.

 

There are only 2 opinions allowed.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I think there is middle ground on this issue though.  The vast majority of people are fine with gun ownership but draw the line at anyone being able to stockpile "weapons of war."

Slippery slope, man.

[YGIFS 19453]

We arrive at middle ground compromises every single day in this country with regard to things/actions that are either inherently dangerous, or could be if used/done improperly.  

Not sure why this one is so different.  I'm more of a constructionist still to this day, but I have to forgive the framers for not codifying rights around motorized vehicles, prescription drugs, and civilian owned aircraft.  I can't drive a Formula 1 car in a school zone, get all the xanax I can carry, and fly an Apache helicopter around ABIA.  Why? Because they're not covered by an amendment?  Yeah, that must be it.  Or did we agree that those things shouldn't be allowed at all in order to protect a much greater number of people's rights than just mine?  In exchange for me being sensible, I can still own a fast Porsche, get 24 pills a month, and one day own a twin prop to fly under FAA rules.  But you can't change an amendment in the Bill of Rights, that's why they're called 'amendments', Latin for "the End of Mentioning this"  

[Armybrat 40993]

Grandma says “Good luck”.

 

[YGIFS 19453]

I promise you that's the last time that deli screws up grandma's order ever again.

[Armybrat 40993]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

I promise you that's the last time that deli screws up grandma's order ever again.

What you wanna bet she gets into that Dodge Ram?

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

7 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

What you wanna bet she gets into that Dodge Ram?

Accidentally? Good chance. Looks like she can’t find her Oldsmobile.

BTW, is there a more perfect brand name for a car?

[Armybrat 40993]

11 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Accidentally? Good chance. Looks like she can’t find her Oldsmobile.

BTW, is there a more perfect brand name for a car?

Heh, I bought a new 2000 Alero V-6 Coupe for Mrs. Brat. Pretty nice with leather seats, sun roof, etc. 
Drove it for only six years before it started falling apart.

She likes her ‘17 Honda Accord EX though.