Palo Alto Super Regional: Texas @ Stanford

[Helobious 9480]

34 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

50 pitches two days ago is not nothing, especially for guys who don’t regularly throw 75+ pitches.

They may have more arms but that doesn’t mean they have any good arms left. They only have a pitching staff of like 6 guys total that actually ever pitch for them.

Former pitcher here, some say the greatest to ever take the mound on a Texas high school field. 
 

Pitching 2 days after throwing 50 pitches is not nothing. You long tossed before the game, you threw in the bullpen, you threw between innings. You’re gonna do it all again two days later. While that doesn’t match the intensity of a game pitch it all adds up. It’s different for everyone but adrenaline is gonna get you through the first inning or so. Once your pitch count starts climbing you’re really going to feel that shit more than normal. I’d be shocked if he goes longer than 2-3 innings.

 

quoted the wrong fucker

Edited June 12, 2023 by Helobious

[Guadaloopy 10918]

I truly don't get the negativity.  There is no obvious advantage that Stanford has in today's game.  This is the University of Texas Longhorns baseball team just one game away from Omaha.   That's a historically great bet.

  

[Droopy 2623]

I respect the Tree. 
 

Texas, is one win away. 
 

If Tree dies, they die. 
 

Edited June 12, 2023 by Droopy
Quoted twice because of the mud hole. 🤘🏼

[smwhorn 481]

1 hour ago, n64ra said:

Would be nice to have a lead for more than part on an inning.

This.  We took the lead in the 9th on Fri and had the lead for a half inning yesterday.

[hobbes2702 12799]

Only lead that matters is the one after 27 outs.

[zlavydra 2116]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Only lead that matters is the one after 27 outs.

So start counting outs now?

[jimmyjazz 45546]

44 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

What is with this weak bullshit negativity in here this AM? C'mon now.

Gah, my ears.  I thought it might be Nickelback at first, so I shazam'ed it, and lo and behold, it's a band PRODUCED by Nickelback.  lulz

[Hookem2147 20927]

Looking back at the box score again. I feel like I only remember like 3 of our 8 hits lol. Matthews carved us up for long stretches but we made some hard contact. Kennedy's ball to dead center was absolutely crushed.

[dcar00 14031]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

50 pitches two days ago is not nothing, especially for guys who don’t regularly throw 75+ pitches.

They may have more arms but that doesn’t mean they have any good arms left. They only have a pitching staff of like 6 guys total that actually ever pitch for them.

that was my point.  they have more arms/pitches available which you kept arguing with me on.

starters who throw 80-90 pitches might have a bullpen on day 2 or day 3.  A guy who only threw 50 isn't gonna have a huge problem throwing 40 on day 2 if they need it. is it optimal? no.

If Witt and Hurley give us 6 solid innings somehow we have a great shot.

[Herpa Derpa 6111]

[Steel Shank 9413]

What Bill in Sinton doing?

[Cairn Horn88 8165]

22 minutes ago, Steel Shank said:

What Bill in Sinton doing?

Cutting firewood.

[Had Enough 2056]

Dowd and Dixon will both be available, Dixon probably in an extended capacity, Dowd probably more limited. Dixon has thrown 100+ pitches 3 times this year, Dowd has thrown 50+ pitches 9 times. They will both be ready and available for them.
Key for Texas is capitalizing on the arm, like a Nick Dugan, who Stanford throws tonight trying to steal innings. I’d be surprised if Stanford tested the waters with Ryan Bruno again
These games where it’s all hands on deck are impossible to predict. There is a good chance Lucas pitches for us tonight

Yeah both teams will take whoever can throw an inning into the mix.

As for Dowd, his maximum number of pitches for a weekend is 77. He has not thrown 50 pitches then come back again and be successful that same weekend. Against UW he threw 49 and came back and gave up a run in 1 inning. His max in the best circumstances has been 3. Typically he throws fewer pitches in the first weekend game then comes back a second time.

Dixon doesn’t go more than 6 on his best day. He hasn’t pitched more than once per weekend when starting that weekend.

Their overall numbers are a bit better than average under usual circumstances. That’s on us if they are significant factors today.

Dugan and Scott are the biggest threats. Scott has only 1 good performance in the last month. Bruno is a wildcard, but he’s likely to be needed for them.

It’s all a crapshoot on what you get.

[zlavydra 2116]

31 minutes ago, Steel Shank said:

What Bill in Sinton doing?

I bet it involves focusness.

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2866]

40 minutes ago, Steel Shank said:

What Bill in Sinton doing?

[jimmyjazz 45546]

Can we Hook'em high like an eagle soars?  Asking for a friend.

[chase25 2048]

28 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Yeah both teams will take whoever can throw an inning into the mix.

As for Dowd, his maximum number of pitches for a weekend is 77. He has not thrown 50 pitches then come back again and be successful that same weekend. Against UW he threw 49 and came back and gave up a run in 1 inning. His max in the best circumstances has been 3. Typically he throws fewer pitches in the first weekend game then comes back a second time.

Dixon doesn’t go more than 6 on his best day. He hasn’t pitched more than once per weekend when starting that weekend.

Their overall numbers are a bit better than average under usual circumstances. That’s on us if they are significant factors today.

Dugan and Scott are the biggest threats. Scott has only 1 good performance in the last month. Bruno is a wildcard, but he’s likely to be needed for them.

It’s all a crapshoot on what you get.

Yep, pitching will be a crapshoot for both. These games often come down to someone unexpected doing something that they normally aren’t capable of doing. So far for Texas this postseason that guy has been Zane. 

Lotta short leashes and riding a hot hand until he falters.

As has been stated before both teams are pretty similar, Stanford with the edge offensively. 6-9 this weekend for Texas has done everything they can to keep Texas in this series, 1-5 has to step up tonight.

Chase Lummus is a name I’d like to see tonight to counter the righties we will throw tonight in Witt, Hurley, and Morehouse. He’s got a great changeup and a solid fastball. 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 hour ago, chase25 said:

1-5 has to step up tonight.

Fucking this.  PLEASE!

[BillyGoatHill 4276]

2 hours ago, Had Enough said:

Yeah, play the game.


We need to hit. It’s been the story all season. If the top of the lineup produces, we succeed.  

We’re lucky to be in game 3. It is a toss up. Which players have a day? Who knows. I think Pierce has the tougher job getting his team mentally focused simply because we don’t have many confident hitters right now.

Our lineup is MUCH better with 2 DH's.....

You guys with the subtle hints at being close to  the program need to fire off a sternly worded email, text, or paper note to Pierce, Del Conte, Jay Hartzell or whoever else it may be that you know to make it happen. 🤘😬

[Horndog 2218]

47 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Bruno is a wildcard, but he’s likely to be needed for them.

 

ISWYDT.

[horn4life 3755]

2 hours ago, Helobious said:

Former pitcher here, some say the greatest to ever take the mound on a Texas high school field. 

So you are David Clyde?  If so I saw you pitch,  with some nasty, nasty stuff as a high school flame thrower.  Also sorry the Rangers fucked you!

 

But back to the subject at hand.  You have to give a tip of the hat to Stanford for not having to chew into the bullpen last night with Quinn Matthews herculean effort in tossing a complete game win.  Like I have so often said. Sometimes the other guys are pretty damn good too and make some plays.   Should be a good game tonight, if nothing else you will definitely be looking at the smartest group of players stepping onto the field the rest of the tournament.  

We simply need to be more patient at the plate, IMHO.  Should be a great game.  Hope I am happy drunk and not mad drunk...

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 hour ago, BillyGoatHill said:

Our lineup is MUCH better with 2 DH's.....

This is not just some weird notion.  This needs to happen today.

[jw4381 3063]

Be more patient? What if it’s the same belt high curve first pitch for a strike every time? Huh, smart guy?

[troph 24562]

we can win, anyone thinking we can't is acting like a flaccid tiny limp dick. but it comes down to offense and theoretically we start this game at a disadvantage unless our pitchers can neutralize Standford some.  if that happens and our bats show up, we could whip their ass.  if it doesn't, Stanford could be celebrating by the 7th inning with large lead.

[jimmyjazz 45546]

4 minutes ago, troph said:

we can win, anyone thinking we can't is acting like a flaccid tiny limp dick. but it comes down to offense and theoretically we start this game at a disadvantage unless our pitchers can neutralize Standford some.  if that happens and our bats show up, we could whip their ass.  if it doesn't, Stanford could be celebrating by the 7th inning with large lead.

Like say, 5-2?

[The_Great_Hornsby 3321]

6 minutes ago, troph said:

we can win, anyone thinking we can't is acting like a flaccid tiny limp dick. but it comes down to offense and theoretically we start this game at a disadvantage unless our pitchers can neutralize Standford some.  if that happens and our bats show up, we could whip their ass.  if it doesn't, Stanford could be celebrating by the 7th inning with large lead.

Anyone acting like Stanford is inevitable tonight is a dumbass. These are college kids. They all can choke, they all can feel the pressure of the moment, they all can step up. Stanford is a good fucking team, but you know what, so is Texas. This is a gut check game and the team that can handle the pressure better will win. 

[TwiceHorn 31265]

3 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

This is one of the most bitchass pregame threads we’ve ever had. We are Texas. Going to Omaha is what we do. Quit with the doom and gloom and let’s actually throw a pitch before we quit.

What it maybe does reveal is that Pierce has gotten us to Supers and to Omaha with some of the less-talented Texas squads.  You could consider that an indictment of recruiting, but last couple of years it has been attributable to injuries that left us with big holes in the roster, particularly on the pitching staff, with Witt last year and Toles and Shaw this year.

God knows we missed out on some CWS and Supers under Augie, but most of the time we were expecting to win.  One notable exception being that 2014 squad that kept surprising the fuck out of us.

[tx 3 putt 76315]

2 hours ago, Droopy said:

I respect the Tree. 
 

Texas, is one win away. 
 

If Tree dies, they die. 
 

all this. It’s going to be a hell of game between two great great programs (and fan bases.). Give it hell boys, get to Omaha 

[Beau Vine 53987]

2 hours ago, Steel Shank said:

What Bill in Sinton doing?

Achieving Total Focusness.

[Hookem2147 20927]

This team has overachieved all year since about mid-March. I can think of some Texas teams who didn't make it out of a regional that were twice as talented as this team. There are Arkansas, Vandy, Clemson and OSU fans all over the place wondering how the hell we are still playing and their team isn't.

There's something to be said though for a team just not knowing any better and continuing to play over their heads. Feels like we have squeezed almost everything we can out of this group, just a matter of finding out in 9 innings if it is enough to go to Omaha.

[chase25 2048]

[troph 24562]

42 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Like say, 5-2?

no I can see stanford up 12-2 if our pitchers don't show up and our batters are silent.

[jeevsie 3720]

4 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

This is one of the most bitchass pregame threads we’ve ever had. We are Texas. Going to Omaha is what we do. Quit with the doom and gloom and let’s actually throw a pitch before we quit.

They are horrible.  We will win convincingly.

[troph 24562]

22 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

This team has overachieved all year since about mid-March. I can think of some Texas teams who didn't make it out of a regional that were twice as talented as this team. There are Arkansas, Vandy, Clemson and OSU fans all over the place wondering how the hell we are still playing and their team isn't.

There's something to be said though for a team just not knowing any better and continuing to play over their heads. Feels like we have squeezed almost everything we can out of this group, just a matter of finding out in 9 innings if it is enough to go to Omaha.

 

I agree. we can win and we are playing with house money right now.  on paper it looks like a 7-4 Stanford win, but fuck that shit. We're Texas (Baseball).... saddle up limp dicks, we gonna ride....

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2866]

 

[Helobious 9480]

There’s no such thing as “house money”. It is no different than money you walked into the casino with. At that point it’s yours and if you lose it all you did was lose your money /rant

[Gut Wagon 8052]

I hope we win. Feeling neither defeated nor overconfident. Just hopeful. 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 hour ago, Helobious said:

There’s no such thing as “house money”. It is no different than money you walked into the casino with. At that point it’s yours and if you lose it all you did was lose your money /rant

[TxTower 650]

I'm sure it's been covered, so SIAP..
How many 0-2 counts were we in last night?  Seemed like everyone was down 0-2 before stepping in the box.
 
 

That’s because almost everyone’s approach was to watch the fat first pitch strike and then spend the rest of the at bat chasing out of the zone.

The few that swung on the first pitch had some success.

[83Horn 1638]

3 hours ago, Helobious said:

Former pitcher here, some say the greatest to ever take the mound on a Texas high school field. 
 

Pitching 2 days after throwing 50 pitches is not nothing. You long tossed before the game, you threw in the bullpen, you threw between innings. You’re gonna do it all again two days later. While that doesn’t match the intensity of a game pitch it all adds up. It’s different for everyone but adrenaline is gonna get you through the first inning or so. Once your pitch count starts climbing you’re really going to feel that shit more than normal. I’d be shocked if he goes longer than 2-3 innings.

 

quoted the wrong fucker

Was this meant as a joke?  It's hard to tell sometimes.  So just to be clear, you're saying you're kind of like the Uncle Rico of Texas high school baseball?

[Hookem2147 20927]

Were people this all of the place heading into game 3 last year? Or since we were the team that won game 2 was everything fine and rosy?

[Hookem2147 20927]

9 minutes ago, TxTower said:

The few that swung on the first pitch had some success.

First pitch swing results:

Foul ball, foul ball, triple, sac fly, foul ball, foul ball

We did not swing and miss on a first pitch the entire game.

Edited June 12, 2023 by Hookem2147

[Helobious 9480]

4 minutes ago, 83Horn said:

Was this meant as a joke?  It's hard to tell sometimes.  So just to be clear, you're saying you're kind of like the Uncle Rico of Texas high school baseball?

To give you an idea, we once had a double-header everyday for 3 days for a tourney. I pitched a perfect game all 6 games. It was tough but the nightly bjs from the top 3 cheerleaders got me through

[jimmyjazz 45546]

2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

First pitch swing results:

Foul ball, foul ball, triple, sac fly, foul ball, foul ball

We did not swing and miss on a first pitch the entire game.

What were the ball/strike counts when we took?

[Had Enough 2056]

I for one am glad we took a bunch of pitches. Otherwise, he’s starting again tonight.

[Hookem2147 20927]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What were the ball/strike counts when we took?

Well, he threw first pitch strikes to 23 of 37 batters (including foul balls and balls put in play). So that means in the 31 at bats where we took the first pitch. we went down 0-1 17 times (55%).

[dcar00 14031]

7 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Were people this all of the place heading into game 3 last year? Or since we were the team that won game 2 was everything fine and rosy?

almost exact same scenario as last year except game 1 and 2 reversed with crazy comeback in game 2.  ECU was killing our pitching but I think we had more confidence in our hitting to come through last year.  stevens was definitely a wild card after getting lit up in game 1.  I think we also thought ECU was running out of pitching.

[TxTower 650]

There were definitely some called third strikes with bat on the shoulder too.

The guys stuff wasn’t that electric. He just has a very odd delivery and I think our guys had trouble picking up the ball.

[Had Enough 2056]

Well, he threw first pitch strikes to 23 of 37 batters (including foul balls and balls put in play). So that means in the 31 at bats where we took the first pitch. we went down 0-1 17 times (55%).

17 out of 31 is not as good as I would have thought. Effectively a bit wild?

Thomas and Campbells pitches were strikes but who knows about the others.

[Hookem2147 20927]

3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

17 out of 31 is not as good as I would have thought. Effectively a bit wild?

Thomas and Campbells pitches were strikes but who knows about the others.

He didn't throw a first pitch strike to any of the 4 batters he faced in the 9th so the stats looked much better the first 8 innings.