Reddit Gone Dark

[Pods 7586]

6 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:

No, it is also that they won't allow 3rd party apps like those used by blind people to have a site read out loud to them. In the service dogs reddit group, they were saying it is discriminating against these 3rd party service type apps and the reddit app doesn't have the features to allow the blind to use it so it will effectively keep them out of the subreddits that are meant to pair service dogs with disabled people. It completely fucks them over.

Dyslexics and disabled folks that have issues using a keyboard too. Reddit doesn't give a fuck about the disabled. 

[elfenix 34322]

so when is this done with?  i need some ram and r/buildapcsales is down

[Wally Fairway 5565]

20 hours ago, Your Mom said:

Unless their financial livelihood is based on it, people who become infuriated over the actions of message boards and social media apps should re-evaluate the path their life has taken.   That shit is it really not as important as it’s made out to be.  

Dear Mom,

How about message board posters? Asking for a friend

[52-80 19183]

11 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

Dear Mom,

How about message board posters? Asking for a friend

you will find there are also perpetually angry people on message boards as well

bless their little hearts

[Celery Man 20970]

5 hours ago, Pods said:

Dyslexics and disabled folks that have issues using a keyboard too. Reddit doesn't give a fuck about the disabled. 

 

5 hours ago, elfenix said:

so when is this done with?  i need some ram and r/buildapcsales is down

plus it’s gonna be filled with people trying to build cupcakes 

[Bateshorn 9928]

19 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

The more important question is, how will the IPO affect all the NSFW content? Asking for me.

This is all I use it for, other than the DC subreddit.  

[Pig Bellmont 8719]

2 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

This is all I use it for, other than the DC subreddit.  

Username checks out

[Bateshorn 9928]

Just now, Pig Bellmont said:

Username checks out

[Chooky 13316]

I'm a functioning regarded person and the functioning part is arguable. I use reddit and don't know anything about third party apps. But I do know that reddit uses the shittiest video player that was ever made since the 2006 era. It's truly pathetic. Everyone seemed to figure that part out except for reddit. While the reddit execs are answering questions, I wish just one journalist would thump them on the bridge of the nose for that. 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Maybe if reddit dies that fucking dumb, beat to death jokes about chili’s at Lamar and 45th will finally go away too.

[chainsaw 9870]

10 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I just want my r/PedroPascal and
r/LoveIslandUK subs back please!

I need my daily dose of hot Pedro gifs and I need to discuss the drama from tonight’s episode of “Love Island UK”, damnit!!!

Don't worry you've got us

 

Edited June 13, 2023 by chainsaw

[Rimbo 25985]

56 minutes ago, Chooky said:

I'm a functioning regarded person and the functioning part is arguable. I use reddit and don't know anything about third party apps. But I do know that reddit uses the shittiest video player that was ever made since the 2006 era. It's truly pathetic. Everyone seemed to figure that part out except for reddit. While the reddit execs are answering questions, I wish just one journalist would thump them on the bridge of the nose for that. 

See, the videos play just fine on the third party apps.

Everyone complains about Reddit's video player, but I have no idea what they're talking about.

[Chooky 13316]

7 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

See, the videos play just fine on the third party apps.

Everyone complains about Reddit's video player, but I have no idea what they're talking about.

There are probably monkeys that don't know what I'm complaining about. I just use the site as it is and won't even download the app they constantly suggest. But am i really that much of a Luddite if i just expect sites to work without ground work on my behalf? That's a rhetorical question. I'm an old that's not even that old yet. 

[Rimbo 25985]

2 minutes ago, Chooky said:

There are probably monkeys that don't know what I'm complaining about. I just use the site as it is and won't even download the app they constantly suggest. But am i really that much of a Luddite if i just expect sites to work without ground work on my behalf? That's a rhetorical question. I'm an old that's not even that old yet. 

I mean, that's really the issue here, innit?

If the site worked properly, for the video player or for long-promised-never-delivered moderation tooling, nobody would give a shit.

[Mother mopar 3319]

I really enjoy it and have for a while now. I participate in a lot of travel, weed, automotive, home, pool, and veteran's forums daily.

Surly has its place and I enjoy you assholes but each market has its target audience.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

I really enjoy it and have for a while now. I participate in a lot of travel, weed, automotive, home, pool, and veteran's forums daily.

Surly has its place and I enjoy you assholes but each market has its target audience.

Yeah, I don’t get much traction for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu here, so that is one of my main subreddits. It’s almost too active (redundancy and shitposts) though.

[burntorangebongos 10747]

53 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Maybe if reddit dies that fucking dumb, beat to death jokes about chili’s at Lamar and 45th will finally go away too.

Man, I used to love going to blind people Chili's for hh when it first opened. 

[chainsaw 9870]

what will happen to r/emergencybackupshag

[Celery Man 20970]

the raleigh subreddit has the same joke about an olive garden

[Samson's Wig 3192]

I'm mostly just pissed that I couldn't read some reviews of ceramic grill temp monitors on reddit yesterday.  How dare they lock it down, I need my free advice!

[Michael Knight 12988]

Huffman is gonna get Elen Paoed

 

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759674/reddit-mods-blackout-protest-extended-indefinitely

[Jkwellborn 6710]

I expected Reddit Gone Dark to be something different 

After dark.

[cactusflinthead 27601]

4 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

Huffman is gonna get Elen Paoed

 

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759674/reddit-mods-blackout-protest-extended-indefinitely

Can attest to the Ukraine subreddits being active. That's the majority of the feed of my page today.

"For example, r/stopDrinking represents a valuable resource for a communities in need, and the urgency of getting the news of the ongoing war out to r/Ukraine obviously outweighs any of these concerns,” SpicyThunder335

[HRSchenker 2271]

Sorry for the large resolution but here's a side by side comparison between RIF on the left and the official reddit app on the right. It's like night and day.

[NoName 16354]

1 hour ago, HRSchenker said:

Sorry for the large resolution but here's a side by side comparison between RIF on the left and the official reddit app on the right. It's like night and day.

There has been zero reason to use the official app until now. 3rd party is easier / better in every way because of so many options. 

3 posts from cfb vs 8 in RIF. I get 5 in what I use these days. 3 is so dumb. So is making it hard to flop between hot/new/top

Its so dumb.

[boknowstecmo 216]

33 minutes ago, NoName said:

There has been zero reason to use the official app until now. 3rd party is easier / better in every way because of so many options. 

3 posts from cfb vs 8 in RIF. I get 5 in what I use these days. 3 is so dumb. So is making it hard to flop between hot/new/top

Its so dumb.

The one on the left just reminds me of the Fark.com layout. 

[achooloco 1072]

4 hours ago, HRSchenker said:

Sorry for the large resolution but here's a side by side comparison between RIF on the left and the official reddit app on the right. It's like night and day.

For me, the one on the right is way more user friendly. Other than the accessibility for physically impaired users on 3rd party apps, which seems like a simple carve out could fix, the “protest”  seems like a waste of time. 

[Hermanator 7116]

The protest is over as Reddit threatened to remove any mods who don't remove the private designation quickly and establish their own mods for those subreddits.

In order for protest to work the protestors need to have leverage and cohesiveness. These mods don't have leverage because Reddit can just replace them and they don't have cohesiveness because so many of them are addicted to being little power hungry forum Nazis who can control their little subreddit flock that they won't dare truly risk losing the ability to work for reddit for free. 

As far as the site itself it's where I learned from other musicians how to use an Audio Interface and my computer as a guitar amplifier. It's good for specific shit you have a hard time getting details on from YouTube videos. 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Hermanator

[Dbeasy 15070]

Is there a way on the Reddit app to just see the top level responses to a post, and then click on one of them to see the detailed counter-responses? 

It drives me insane to have to click on each and every top level response in order to hide the details. 

[NoName 16354]

3 hours ago, achooloco said:

For me, the one on the right is way more user friendly. Other than the accessibility for physically impaired users on 3rd party apps, which seems like a simple carve out could fix, the “protest”  seems like a waste of time. 

You have the ability to work with whatever setup you want and edit it on third party apps. If you think the protest was dumb, you don't pay attention to much on the internet. Fuck Spez.

3 hours ago, Hermanator said:

The protest is over as Reddit threatened to remove any mods who don't remove the private designation quickly and establish their own mods for those subreddits.

In order for protest to work the protestors need to have leverage and cohesiveness. These mods don't have leverage because Reddit can just replace them and they don't have cohesiveness because so many of them are addicted to being little power hungry forum Nazis who can control their little subreddit flock that they won't dare truly risk losing the ability to work for reddit for free. 

As far as the site itself it's where I learned from other musicians how to use an Audio Interface and my computer as a guitar amplifier. It's good for specific shit you have a hard time getting details on from YouTube videos. 

Yeah. It is what it is. Fuck Spez.

3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Is there a way on the Reddit app to just see the top level responses to a post, and then click on one of them to see the detailed counter-responses? 

It drives me insane to have to click on each and every top level response in order to hide the details. 

You could with some third party apps. You never will be able to in the official app. Ever.

[Celery Man 20970]

It does seem like the protest amounted to not much. Shut a lot of reddit down for a few days, probably traffic is even still down a little bit, but I doubt many people leave for real.

I don't know which of the big picture subs it is but one of them switched to strictly pictures of John Oliver as a.... way to address reddit's threats while not really complying? I dunno.

slightly off topic, is there such thing as a decent guitar subreddit? I haven't gone looking very deeply but if there's one that isn't mostly... morons and absolute newbs, I haven't seen it.

[achooloco 1072]

1 hour ago, NoName said:

You have the ability to work with whatever setup you want and edit it on third party apps. If you think the protest was dumb, you don't pay attention to much on the internet. Fuck Spez.

Yeah. It is what it is. Fuck Spez.

You could with some third party apps. You never will be able to in the official app. Ever.

Nothing changed. It did do nothing but waste time. Does Seem dumb if the only thing that changed was the day on the calendar 

Edited June 19, 2023 by achooloco

[Celery Man 20970]

“Waste time” is a bit hyperbolic to describe an interruption in the important work happening on reddit.com

[NoName 16354]

43 minutes ago, achooloco said:

Nothing changed. It did do nothing but waste time. Does Seem dumb if the only thing that changed was the day on the calendar 

Again, sure seems like you don't care or understand why Spez is fucking shit up for what they proclaim is less than 5 percent of their user base, why it matters to kill third party apps, why them fucking everything with the API or their general day to day business chances matters. 

Basically: get ready for reddit to get worse across the board. 

[WhatTheBuck 28788]

10 hours ago, HRSchenker said:

Sorry for the large resolution but here's a side by side comparison between RIF on the left and the official reddit app on the right. It's like night and day.

Looks more like night and dusk. 

[immamac 42868]

The American consumer is too stupid, weak and addicted to actually be a rational market actor. 

Reddit should be done, instead people are too lazy to use viable alternatives or fork over money to keep what they like going. 

[Celery Man 20970]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

The American consumer is too stupid, weak and addicted to actually be a rational market actor. 

 

Completely agree with what you’re saying, although also the idea that humans have ever primarily made rational economic decisions always been fucking stupid.

[immamac 42868]

8 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Completely agree with what you’re saying, although also the idea that humans have ever primarily made rational economic decisions always been fucking stupid.

I don't know that this is true. The economic complexity is significantly higher than ever, but the market drivers are still as simple as ever. Accountability is something that is totally lacking generally speaking about American culture. 

We don't hold our children accountable, we don't hold our CEOs accountable, we don't hold our banks accountable, we don't hold our elected officials accountable, the list goes on and on. Accountability takes effort, thoughtfulness and drive. Something America seems to have lost in our successful quest to become fat dumb and happy. 

[Jkwellborn 6710]

The American consumer is too stupid, weak and addicted to actually be a rational market actor. 
Reddit should be done, instead people are too lazy to use viable alternatives or fork over money to keep what they like going. 

I ain’t paying money to see every bitch with an onlyfans advertise it.

[hornian 5219]

Apparently at least one subreddit (r/interestingasfuck) is back, but practicing malicious compliance. Reddit can't/doesn't have ads on NSFW subreddits, so the mods changed it to NSFW and are not removing any sexual/porn posts as those are not against the policy of a NSFW sub. 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10313]

17 hours ago, NoName said:

Again, sure seems like you don't care or understand why Spez is fucking shit up for what they proclaim is less than 5 percent of their user base, why it matters to kill third party apps, why them fucking everything with the API or their general day to day business chances matters. 

Basically: get ready for reddit to get worse across the board. 

It can be both. 3rd party apps are the ones pulling the plug. If they redesigned and made things more efficient they are a viable option. Apollo had too many future "paid" and "lifetime" subscriptions to be able to continue. That wasn't Reddit's fault that was Selig's fault thinking Reddit wouldn't start charging at some point.

[Auto Driller 2506]

I’m sure prospective IPO investors are thrilled to find that the site’s largest communities can be shut down or turned NSFW at the whims of unpaid, non-employed moderators. CEO really should have thought this one through a little harder.

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/

 

[Celery Man 20970]

16 hours ago, immamac said:

I don't know that this is true. The economic complexity is significantly higher than ever, but the market drivers are still as simple as ever. Accountability is something that is totally lacking generally speaking about American culture. 

We don't hold our children accountable, we don't hold our CEOs accountable, we don't hold our banks accountable, we don't hold our elected officials accountable, the list goes on and on. Accountability takes effort, thoughtfulness and drive. Something America seems to have lost in our successful quest to become fat dumb and happy. 

again agree about what you're saying specifically about American culture, but also across cultures and history humans have never primarily made economic decisions by cold and rational calculations of expected utility

[NoName 16354]

15 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

It can be both. 3rd party apps are the ones pulling the plug. If they redesigned and made things more efficient they are a viable option. Apollo had too many future "paid" and "lifetime" subscriptions to be able to continue. That wasn't Reddit's fault that was Selig's fault thinking Reddit wouldn't start charging at some point.

this is a bad take and a lazy one at that. he's giving up ~$250k to refund those back. the issue is that they didn't change it in a reasonable manner and that's backed up by all the large apps either closing and announcing it or not closing and not having any updates of any kind right now.

re: more efficient - lol. who defines efficiency? reddit? who wants to have fewer apps so they drive users to their app so they can serve ads and datamine those users? come on. 

if you think it is reasonable to go from a free API for the entire life of the API (literally 15 years ago), to $2 million / month in 10 days for any business you need to join the rest of us in the real world. it's not reasonable and there is no reason for that transition to need to happen ASAP. i've seen multiple app creators say that 90 days would have been do-able/work-able but reddit wanted it to happen in 30 days. that's bonkers.

in january on a call with reddit, u/iamthatis (Christian Selig, Apollo creator) asked about API plans:

yeah, back Spez and trust him. from here: https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/

re: he doesn't want to price it appropriately. you can't "efficiency" you way to pay for power users based on who is going to convert to a monthly charge and how much those monthly users use. it isn't feasible.

don't be lazy and believe what u/Spez tells you about this.

 

10 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

I’m sure prospective IPO investors are thrilled to find that the site’s largest communities can be shut down or turned NSFW at the whims of unpaid, non-employed moderators. CEO really should have thought this one through a little harder.

I can't believe he hasn't been ousted yet. Mind boggling. Dude should have just done the exact opposite in every situation, like Costanza. Can't believe he will ever be the CEO of a publicly traded company.

1 minute ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/

 

this is a good read and worth your time.

 

[Samson's Wig 3192]

Some people really don't like it when their free toy gets taken away.  

[NoName 16354]

2 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Some people really don't like it when their free toy gets taken away.  

guy, i pay for reddit third party apps and would pay for them moving forward for the right to use them. just like twitter btw. you know how many twitter third party apps i have purchased over time on android/ios and paid for on a yearly basis (Tweetbot)?

don't make assumptions. i would continue to pay for it on a monthly basis if there was a way to do so. but no third party app has said "yeah, we are doing monthly pricing" because no third party app can have you pay through an app store for an amount that changes every single month based on how much you use it. the entire reason they are pushing the pricing on to the 3rd party apps vs the end users is because they want to funnel users to the first party app and kill the third party apps in the first place.

[Samson's Wig 3192]

 

 It's Reddit. Your life will be okay if it disappears completely tomorrow.  Take a breath. 

[NoName 16354]

6 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

 

lol ok.

i will be fine, but don't like bootlickers who don't know shit about the situation coming in and acting like they do. if you read my complaint and got "some people don't like it when their free toy is taken away" you should either re-read it or pay some attention to it.

[Brisketexan 105158]

19 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Some people really don't like it when their free toy gets taken away.  

Maybe.  But Reddit is making revenue off those toy-players.  Force enough of them off the platform, and Reddit shoots itself in the foot.  Is that what will ultimately happen?  Beats me.  I hardly understand any of this.  I just get the big-picture, I sure as shit can't look into a crystal ball and see what will happen next re consumer behavior.