2024 Texas Baseball

[cmontexas 3271]

2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

LSU has not had multiple players drafted in the top 30 overall since 1994.

 

lol

#checked lol

[tx 3 putt 76963]

3 hours ago, cmontexas said:

We havent had a player drafted in the top 30 since Jungmann in 2011. L$U has multiple guys every year.

Pierce is a good coach that can take mid teams and win his regional and get to Omaha every few years. Im not seeing how that is even close to Alabama of baseball

 
Pierce has to up the talent level

[HenryJames 66062]

 

[troph 24806]

3 hours ago, cmontexas said:

We havent had a player drafted in the top 30 since Jungmann in 2011. L$U has multiple guys every year.

Pierce is a good coach that can take mid teams and win his regional and get to Omaha every few years. Im not seeing how that is even close to Alabama of baseball

[tx 3 putt 76963]

13 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

very nice get 

[Hookem2147 21300]

There seems to be some more optimism on OB from a few people (Mods) that Witt could potentially be in play to return. Obviously his most recent summer outing didn't leave a lot of teams with the warm fuzzies. He's still fighting his arm slot/release point and the command is still a work in progress.

Pitching outlook for 2024 would change dramatically if it were to happen.

Edited June 27, 2023 by Hookem2147

[Hookem2147 21300]

I'm not saying Tolle is going to be a flop at TCU, but some of his numbers on the pitching side have me interested to see how his game translates to the Big 12. Strikeouts are also an issue for him at the plate.

[Had Enough 2081]

Gotta like DPs strategy of allowing others to blow their NIL monies so that he can sweep in to get who wants in the end.

That’s how I run my fantasy football auction drafts. Sound strategy.

[closetojumping 62737]

7 hours ago, troph said:

yeah it's clear LSU is way out in front on this one. no reason we can't catch up and be perennial top 5 in NIL money. just needs to be done now that buying championships or at least championship rosters is legal. it's no different than MLB payroll fights - more is always better and will always put you at an advantage.

If Texas isn't already top 5 in baseball NIL, it isn't far off. There aren't that many schools working with north of $750k. The issue with LSU is that they worked with north of 3.5x that for the 2022 cycle when everyone else was trying to organize a base. They're still out in front, but they're not going to stay there all alone for much longer. The 2023 cycle -- that might still be the case though.

11 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

he’s not an LSU alum…he graduated from West Virginia and did his masters and interned at Alabama.  

 

5 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

Try this...

https://lsusports.net/staff/jack-marucci/

 

What part of "CEO" do you not understand when you're responding like this? Ainsworth has run the company for years, having bought out the original entity and since having sold the whole thing to a PE firm while maintaining the CEO role.

[torre 1286]

Tolle had a 97k's in 85.2 inn, 97/19 K/BB ratio, .245 OBA (lowest on staff)  4.62 ERA not impressive,  but a definite take.    Tougher competition but Saarloos is one of the best.

OU, and I am sure others, really wanted Tolle (from Yukon, Ok) but TCU NLI won the day.

 

Sorry, if already posted:

 

 

 

[troph 24806]

18 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

If Texas isn't already top 5 in baseball NIL, it isn't far off. There aren't that many schools working with north of $750k. The issue with LSU is that they worked with north of 3.5x that for the 2022 cycle when everyone else was trying to organize a base. They're still out in front, but they're not going to stay there all alone for much longer. The 2023 cycle -- that might still be the case though.

 

What part of "CEO" do you not understand when you're responding like this? Ainsworth has run the company for years, having bought out the original entity and since having sold the whole thing to a PE firm while maintaining the CEO role.

Thanks for the answer. Appreciate it. 

[Fletch 5800]

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

There seems to be some more optimism on OB from a few people (Mods) that Witt could potentially be in play to return. Obviously his most recent summer outing didn't leave a lot of teams with the warm fuzzies. He's still fighting his arm slot/release point and the command is still a work in progress.

Pitching outlook for 2024 would change dramatically if it were to happen.

Somehow getting Gordon and Witt back would be pretty cool 

[HenryJames 66062]

 

[tx 3 putt 76963]

SEC is loading up

[chase25 2048]

Well if one thing is for sure with some of the portal decisions today, it’s that NIL is turning the transfer portal into the Wild West.

I know Chase Burns is a long shot but we should really think about putting on the full court press for him

[chase25 2048]

 

[BurntOrange&White 39933]

20 hours ago, troph said:

yeah it's clear LSU is way out in front on this one. no reason we can't catch up and be perennial top 5 in NIL money. just needs to be done now that buying championships or at least championship rosters is legal. it's no different than MLB payroll fights - more is always better and will always put you at an advantage.

Given our baseball history in comparison with LSU there is no reason we both shouldn't be 1A and 1B or 1 and 2 at minimum with that regards. Yes I know it will take a few years for our machine to match their pace. 

Edited June 28, 2023 by BurntOrange&White

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42 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Given our baseball history in comparison with LSU there is no reason we both shouldn't be 1A and 1B or 1 and 2 at minimum with that regards. 

We should be fine as long as we can consistently be top 3 and no one is head and shoulders ahead.

[Hookem2147 21300]

I believe this is one of the guys who Texas is heavily focused on in the OF https://arizonawildcats.com/sports/baseball/roster/mac-bingham/15191

A couple of moving parts in this situation though as he is draft eligible. Not sure if he is in the portal as a leverage play.

[shadow_operative 15932]

cole chamberlain HR derby vs Eric Sim:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuDTqPEAf_-/?igshid=Y2I2MzMwZWM3ZA==

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

this is part of the reason why…a legit 10k plus in The Box to celebrate no. 7 this evening.  kids want this…
 

 

[troph 24806]

1 hour ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

this is part of the reason why…a legit 10k plus in The Box to celebrate no. 7 this evening.  kids want this…
 

 

I was looking for the 2024 Texas thread, I didn't mean to jump into the LSU thread, my bad.

[Cairn Horn88 8264]

6 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

I believe this is one of the guys who Texas is heavily focused on in the OF https://arizonawildcats.com/sports/baseball/roster/mac-bingham/15191

A couple of moving parts in this situation though as he is draft eligible. Not sure if he is in the portal as a leverage play.

Listening to The Horn yesterday, a guest indicated that Texas' NIL for baseball, was like #10 in overall Horn sports, even behind softball.  Seems crazy.

[Hookem2147 21300]

23 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Listening to The Horn yesterday, a guest indicated that Texas' NIL for baseball, was like #10 in overall Horn sports, even behind softball.  Seems crazy.

That is just not true lol. Not sure how someone can be so far off. Unless they meant #10 nationally.

Edited June 29, 2023 by Hookem2147

[UnhappilyMarried 816]

3 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

this is part of the reason why…a legit 10k plus in The Box to celebrate no. 7 this evening.  kids want this…
 

 

You don’t have to be so embarrassed. Title still counts no matter how much people bitch about the transfers 

Edited June 29, 2023 by UnhappilyMarried

[Had Enough 2081]

That is just not true lol. Not sure how someone can be so far off. Unless they meant #10 nationally.

I’ve seen that referenced on more than one occasion. It’s out there whether true or not.

[texifornia 56972]

10 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

this is part of the reason why…a legit 10k plus in The Box to celebrate no. 7 this evening.  kids want this…
 

 

It's 99.5% having a good local recruiting base supercharged by the best NIL machine in the sport and that's ok.

[Hookem2147 21300]

8 hours ago, Had Enough said:

I’ve seen that referenced on more than one occasion. It’s out there whether true or not.

Would hope common sense kicks in at some point as someone wonders if women’s soccer is making more than baseball.

Edited June 29, 2023 by Hookem2147

[closetojumping 62737]

9 hours ago, Had Enough said:

I’ve seen that referenced on more than one occasion. It’s out there whether true or not.

There’s no accounting for simple idiocy. Baseball is, and will continue to be, behind basketball and football. Rightfully so, as the same kind of jack isn’t needed for baseball. Anyone offering up a different view about NIL levels for non-revenue sports is flatly incorrect and I can say that with certainty. People need to get a fucking grip. 

[MuellerHorn 4251]

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

Would hope common sense kicks in at some point as someone wonders if women’s soccer is making more than baseball.

Don't even get us started again on women's soccer. Texas should be a powerhouse, but I'll save my lamenting for the correct thread.

[hobbes2702 13034]

13 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

this is part of the reason why…a legit 10k plus in The Box to celebrate no. 7 this evening.  kids want this…
 

 

Do you think other schools don’t celebrate national titles?

[Hookem2147 21300]

Stupid misinformation being spread like beach volleyball and softball receiving more NIL funding than baseball only adds more headwinds to the efforts of continuing to get baseball NIL in a better place. Actually pisses me a little that someone would go on radio and try to pass that off as fact.

Edited June 29, 2023 by Hookem2147

[petscii 1189]

24 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Stupid misinformation being spread like beach volleyball and softball receiving more NIL funding than baseball only adds more headwinds to the efforts of continuing to get baseball NIL in a better place. Actually pisses me a little that someone would go on radio and try to pass that off as fact.

The problem is there is no information.  When I ask about how much goes to baseball from my donation I get wiggle word answers.  There is no transparency "because we wouldn't want another school to know..."  Everything on the texasone website is written that way.

It seems highly sketch to me..

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15 minutes ago, petscii said:

The problem is there is no information.  When I ask about how much goes to baseball from my donation I get wiggle word answers.  There is no transparency "because we wouldn't want another school to know..."  Everything on the texasone website is written that way.

It seems highly sketch to me..

If you don't have confidence in where or how the money is being spent, you shouldn't give. That's a better approach than telling us that you give but you're worried about being ripped off. Tell me what you're giving if you turn your donation off and I'll up mine by that amount to keep things positive for them.

The goal is for 90% of everything given to go to the athletes. There's OpenDorse, one salary, vendor fees, etc., but the overhead is extremely low and will remain that way. Donations earmarked to particular sports go to those sports. The "general" donations are where admin expenses are pulled in order to keep the train on the tracks and growing. 

I'm not sure why you think publicly laying out all of the payouts to players for given events and work is a smart thing.

1) Does your company send out its payroll structure, per employee, to the entire staff on a regular basis? The exact same kind of dynamic is at hand for college athletes.

2) Never mind the issues pertaining to competitive imbalance (and whining) and competitive intelligence. I'd sure like to know what LSU is offering to the next 3 guys they're going after in the portal, wouldn't you? I wonder if that would help us in the next cycle if we just get that break down from them?

3) None of this even considers the melodramatic media bawling that would happen if big, bad, mean, ol'Texas was known to be paying specific players x, y, and z varying amounts.

4) Then the lampooning whenever a compensated player doesn't perform well or is redshirting, or whatever. We'd be providing media discussion fodder for years forward.

If you don't understand why those are significant issues to avoid, irrespective of how much better that info would make you feel, then there is no map available to get your logic issues back on course. There's a bucket of reasons for not just laying it all out there and boiling it down to "we wouldn't want another school to know" is your own reductive silliness on a topic that you don't seem to be fully grasping. 

[tx 3 putt 76963]

On 6/28/2023 at 12:09 AM, chase25 said:

Well if one thing is for sure with some of the portal decisions today, it’s that NIL is turning the transfer portal into the Wild West.

I know Chase Burns is a long shot but we should really think about putting on the full court press for him

I think I heard that 20% of ncaa baseball players were in the portal 

[OB3 3627]

 

[tx 3 putt 76963]

Well damn 

[hobbes2702 13034]

What the fuck is that about?

[bluto 4929]

Is Pierce an asshole or what’s the deal? We gonna send a private jet with univ president in tow to recruit a pitching coach? 

[AUS-97HORN 11764]

this makes zero fucking sense, unless Woody fucked a horse or something

[Js1 85342]

Uh ok 

[Hookem2147 21300]

Sounds like this was very much mutual.

[Biff Tannen 45690]

This was unexpected. Has to be something beyond performance. 

[Hookem2147 21300]

Williams was by all accounts a great guy and worked well with the players, but he had never recruited off campus before in his life. He was a volunteer at San Jac. And I don’t know if he was fully prepared for what he was getting himself into with the 24/7/365 recruiting required at this level.

Wouldn’t shock me if Pierce just promoted Chris Gordon, who was basically co-pitching coach this year and was the pitching coach at Duke before coming to Texas.

Edited June 29, 2023 by Hookem2147

[Biff Tannen 45690]

Dipshits on the horn tried to say that Pierce was on the chopping block next. 

[TornACL 7698]

I blame this on all the idiots on this board who were trying to fire WW before Spring Break.

[HenryJames 66062]

There’s only one idiot to blame. 

[LCHorn 2620]

This is irrational but I've hated Woody Williams ever since he pitched for the Astros (and fuck you McLane for signing a 39 year old free agent just because he was from Houston and pitched well in cavernous Petco). 

[chase25 2048]

Fabian and Prevesk are both Sophmores, Nesbitt is a RS Sophmore

[Valmy77 13226]

That sucks about Woody Williams, I was looking forward to seeing how this coaching staff would do in the coming season. I didn't see that coming. Last year wasn't a great season by any means but it was a decent one. Not bad for your first year on the job.

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Dipshits on the horn tried to say that Pierce was on the chopping block next. 

Unless they have some legend waiting in the wings, that doesn't make any sense.