Big 12 basketball 2023-2024 season - One Final Rodeo

[HtownHorn 14469]

Dickinson might have to sit out of the conference tournament, likely dislocated his shoulder late against UH. KU might be one and done in both the Big 12 and NCAAT.

[ztejas 43262]

UH held KU under 50 points for the first time in B12-play history.

Holy fuck that's incredible. 

[kingkoopa6 8312]

My cousin got worse juju in sports 

any bet he make I do opposite. 
 

 

[texastroubadour 1203]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Dickinson might have to sit out of the conference tournament, likely dislocated his shoulder late against UH. KU might be one and done in both the Big 12 and NCAAT.

You hate to see it 😎

[shadow_operative2.0 15824]

TCU lost at home to UCF. 

[KingBobo81 526]

TCU goes down…I believe that bumps us up to 7th for the conference tourney.

[DeadArmadillo 907]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Oh no, Dickinson is hurt.

[Js1 85095]

Just now, KingBobo81 said:

TCU goes down…I believe that bumps us up to 7th for the conference tourney.

Yes. Against KSU and avoids UH until the finals 

[Brian Fantana 6667]

Kinda wild game in Lubbock going on, Tech was up by 15ish, Baylor clawed back, Tech now back up by 10. Great effort by both teams so far and great atmosphere for a game that is ultimately meaningless to both teams at this point other than wanting to win. Our two best players are playing with 4 fouls.

[Js1 85095]

Fuck Baylor

[Braff Zacklin 13409]

This'll be a big win for Tech. Gives them a two-way tie for third with Baylor ... which is nice, cuz of what @Js1 said.

[Brian Fantana 6667]

Really nicely managed 2nd half by McCasland. We had Darrion Williams and Pop Isaacs with 4 fouls apiece at like the 12 minute mark and neither one of them fouled out.

[HtownHorn 14469]

7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Fuck Baylor

When the officials don't give them 42 FTs they aren't so hard to beat.

[mycox 582]

3 hours ago, ztejas said:

UH is fucking working Kansas.

I think this is a FF UH team and potentially a title winner. They are damn, damn good.

i thought the late season injuries would kill them, but they keep finding a way to win  However I wouldn't be surprised if someone knocks them out in round 32 or 16 of the tourney. They don't play as well on the road.

[HtownHorn 14469]

Just now, mycox said:

i thought the late season injuries would kill them, but they keep finding a way to win  However I wouldn't be surprised if someone knocks them out in round 32 or 16 of the tourney. They don't play as well on the road.

Their shooting is suspect, and any team that can get them in foul trouble and keep up with them on the boards as a chance to knock them out.

[Js1 85095]

Just now, HtownHorn said:

Their shooting is suspect, and any team that can get them in foul trouble and keep up with them on the boards as a chance to knock them out.

Yeah will depend on their path

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

KU player was giving Shead a reach around on that foul.
Take heart, this was always going to be the outcome of the UH-KU game.

That definitely changed my mood. Should serve as wake up to quit trying to play hero ball in half court sets.

I didn't think K-State had a chance in hell of getting an NCAA bid outside of winning the conference tournament. But today's win ... maybe changes things? What are your thoughts?

Maybe if they get to the semis next week

[HtownHorn 14469]

With their win against ISU, KSU will likely be in the Top 75 of the Net, they were 76 coming into the day. That's significant because the Q2 cutoff for neutral court is 75, but the TCU loss cost us a Q1 game against OU in the 2nd round.

[shadow_operative 15932]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52341]

We did manage to beat them by 25 at the phog 3 years ago. Had a 30 point lead at one point I believe. 

[Brian Fantana 6667]

Man fuck we've beaten them by 29 twice in the last few years. Come on man just 1 point

[ATXbronco 4060]

4 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Dickinson might have to sit out of the conference tournament, likely dislocated his shoulder late against UH. KU might be one and done in both the Big 12 and NCAAT.

That sucks.
I don't care if he's a dick(?). I don't wish that on anyone who made such huge moves and worked that hard to get to the big dance with Kansas.

 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39695694/kansas-hunter-dickinson-injures-shoulder-loss-houston

[ATXbronco 4060]

[LTtxfan 48962]

6 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

Might be better for jayhawks to lose in their 1st game of B12 tournament and rest up for NCAA tourney

[ATXbronco 4060]

Saw Disu's knee briefly buckle tonight, so we could probably say the same for ourselves.

Coach left him in longer than necessary.

 

[Reality Check 137]

4 hours ago, KingBobo81 said:

TCU goes down…I believe that bumps us up to 7th for the conference tourney.

Yep... absolutely huge to get out of the 8-9 matchup with the winner playing Houston. Should we beat Kansas State in our opener on Wednesday, we'll face Iowa State in the next round. 

Big 12 men's basketball tournament schedule

Tuesday, March 12: First round

Game 1: No. 12 UCF vs. No. 13 Oklahoma State, 11:30 a.m. (Big 12 Now on ESPN+)

Game 2: No. 11 Cincinnati vs. No. 14 West Virginia, 2 p.m. (Big 12 Now on ESPN+)

Wednesday, March 13: Second round

Game 3: No. 5 BYU vs. Game 1 winner, 11:30 a.m. (ESPN/2)

Game 4: No. 8 TCU vs. No. 9 Oklahoma, 2 p.m. (Big 12 Now on ESPN+)

Game 5: No. 7 Texas vs. No. 10 Kansas State, 6 p.m. (Big 12 Now on ESPN+)

Game 6: No. 6 Kansas vs. Game 2 winner, 8:30 p.m. (ESPN2/U)

 

Thursday, March 14: Quarterfinals

Game 7: No. 4 Texas Tech vs. Game 3 winner, 11:30 a.m. (ESPN/2)

Game 8: No. 1 Houston vs. Game 4 winner, 2 p.m. (ESPN/2)

Game 9: No. 2 Iowa State vs. Game 5 winner, 6 p.m. (ESPN/2)

Game 10: No. 3 Baylor vs. Game 6 winner, 8:30 p.m. (ESPN/2)

Friday, March 15: Semifinals

Game 11: Game 7 winner vs. Game 8 winner, 6 p.m. (ESPN/2)

Game 12: Game 9 winner vs. Game 10 winner, 8:30 p.m. (ESPN/2)

Saturday, March 16: Championship

Game 13: Game 11 winner vs. Game 12 winner, 5 p.m. (ESPN)

[HtownHorn 14469]

12 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

Saw Disu's knee briefly buckle tonight, so we could probably say the same for ourselves.

Coach left him in longer than necessary.

 

He rolled his ankle on his last layup. Foot landed on the OU player's foot.

[Hookem2147 20928]

 

[Brian Fantana 6667]

If they one and done in the Big 12 tourney they may be out

[HtownHorn 14469]

I think the loser of OU/TCU is getting left out.

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

5 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

I think the loser of OU/TCU is getting left out.

Yeah, I think this is a real possibility. 

OU's resume is pretty shaky. They only have 2 wins over at-large teams currently projected in Lunardi's bracket. Their resume is kind of thin even though they have 4 Q1 wins. 

[Js1 85095]

 

[HookEm 2443]

OU can definitely do better than Porter Moser.  They should be gearing up to do some damage in the SEC.  Over the last 40 years, OU isn't that far off from blueblood territory and actually has a better average Massey rating than Indiana, Michigan, Florida, UConn, Virginia and Louisville.  Here is where they rank over various periods:

• Last 5 years - 29
• Last 10 years - 16
• Since 2000 - 19
• Since 1980 - 14

It is a shame that Beard didn't just sit out the 2023 season, because he would have made a tremendous hire for them.  They may go after him anyway.

[Braff Zacklin 13409]

59 minutes ago, HookEm said:

OU can definitely do better than Porter Moser.

Oh, you're risking the wrath of @ChiTownDoc now!
 

In all seriousness, if the above tweet is true, I'd be very interested to know ChiTown's thoughts because he's staunchly defended Moser through thick and thin. Self in his shoes, I would feel betrayed.

[ChiTownDoc 21098]

1 hour ago, HookEm said:

OU can definitely do better than Porter Moser.  They should be gearing up to do some damage in the SEC.  Over the last 40 years, OU isn't that far off from blueblood territory and actually has a better average Massey rating than Indiana, Michigan, Florida, UConn, Virginia and Louisville.  Here is where they rank over various periods:

• Last 5 years - 29
• Last 10 years - 16
• Since 2000 - 19
• Since 1980 - 14

It is a shame that Beard didn't just sit out the 2023 season, because he would have made a tremendous hire for them.  They may go after him anyway.

At the AD and above level, President etc there's a level of respect between the programs.  Unlike you guys and aggy.  OU wasn't hiring Beard under any circumstances.  

 

[ChiTownDoc 21098]

16 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Oh, you're risking the wrath of @ChiTownDoc now!
 

In all seriousness, if the above tweet is true, I'd be very interested to know ChiTown's thoughts because he's staunchly defended Moser through thick and thin. Self in his shoes, I would feel betrayed.

I think he's a good coach but doesn't fit in well at OU or other big schools.  He's not a monster recruiter but does well in the right place.  I wish him the best but definitely don't cry over him leaving.  I'll buy him a beer sometime here in Chicago.  OU is a very underrated hoops program but their gym is a dumpster and fan support has waned even further after the Thunder came to town.  They can get a good recruiter and at worst be average in the SEC, but they should be better than that.  

[ChiTownDoc 21098]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

 

Guy lost me at the end.  Playing in SEC is going to be a bear?  As if the b12 is some rando conference we're leaving?  lol

 

Edit: sorry for the derp and not multiquoting, ban user.

Edited March 11 by ChiTownDoc

[BigOrange1 6422]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Guy lost me at the end.  Playing in SEC is going to be a bear?  As if the b12 is some rando conference we're leaving?  lol

 

Edit: sorry for the derp and not multiquoting, ban user.

no shit.  the sec isn't going to be any more difficult than the big 12 has been the past several years.

[HtownHorn 14469]

2 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I think he's a good coach but doesn't fit in well at OU or other big schools.  He's not a monster recruiter but does well in the right place.  I wish him the best but definitely don't cry over him leaving.  I'll buy him a beer sometime here in Chicago.  OU is a very underrated hoops program but their gym is a dumpster and fan support has waned even further after the Thunder came to town.  They can get a good recruiter and at worst be average in the SEC, but they should be better than that.  

He's a guy that does better when he can develop kids over a 3-4 year period. That likely isn't happening with the portal at OU. Maybe DePaul can afford him more of that coaching experience. Kinda like Shaka returning to his roots at Marquette.

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

no shit.  the sec isn't going to be any more difficult than the big 12 has been the past several years.

They’re already trying to overhype SEC basketball to pump their pet product

[Pancho 44457]

I think ou is getting a new arena as well. If Moser isn’t in trouble with the AD, why would he leave? The ou fans that cared about basketball are dead.

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

13 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I think ou is getting a new arena as well. If Moser isn’t in trouble with the AD, why would he leave? The ou fans that cared about basketball are dead.

I think you just answered part of your own question.

On top of that, Moser is a Midwest guy.  My guess is when he came to Norman he thought they were staying in the Big 12 and he'd be able to play and recruit in that footprint quite a bit and build OU basketball back into a thing that mattered on an annual basis.  The move to the SEC cuts OU off from playing more Midwestern schools and puts Moser in a situation where his recruiting connections don't have any overlap with where he's actually playing the games.

Now going back for DePaul?  Yeesh.  That job is shit.  Yeah, they're in the Big East, but they don't have an on campus arena, and Chicago is not a college sports town.  @ChiTownDoc can probably add more accuracy here, but I'd imagine that in the Chicago college basketball pecking order, DePaul is somewhere behind Illinois, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Loyola, and maybe even Iowa, Wisconsin, Purdue, and Indiana.

[ChiTownDoc 21098]

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I think you just answered part of your own question.

On top of that, Moser is a Midwest guy.  My guess is when he came to Norman he thought they were staying in the Big 12 and he'd be able to play and recruit in that footprint quite a bit and build OU basketball back into a thing that mattered on an annual basis.  The move to the SEC cuts OU off from playing more Midwestern schools and puts Moser in a situation where his recruiting connections don't have any overlap with where he's actually playing the games.

Now going back for DePaul?  Yeesh.  That job is shit.  Yeah, they're in the Big East, but they don't have an on campus arena, and Chicago is not a college sports town.  @ChiTownDoc can probably add more accuracy here, but I'd imagine that in the Chicago college basketball pecking order, DePaul is somewhere behind Illinois, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Loyola, and maybe even Iowa, Wisconsin, Purdue, and Indiana.

Yeah it’s behind all those right now.  I think they have a new arena etc and you’d think with all the Chicago talent it’s a sleeping giant but no - it’s a MASSIVE project to take on.  

[Js1 85095]

UCF beat Ok State 77-62

WV leads Cincinnati 68-64 with 7.5 min left

[Satchel 6908]

8 hours ago, Pancho said:

I think ou is getting a new arena as well. If Moser isn’t in trouble with the AD, why would he leave? The ou fans that cared about basketball are dead.

OU’s been getting a new arena since long before the earth’s crust cooled.

[Brian Fantana 6667]

Wild that KU's odds are that high considering they don't have McCullar or Dickinson for the conference tourney

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

The Boynton era has to be over you would think.

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

On 3/10/2024 at 1:41 PM, Hookem2147 said:

 

TCU started off the conference by absolutely getting jobbed at the Phog. The refs found a way to call an egregious to fragrant foul on a fun of the mill defensive rebound right as TCU was about to lock up a really good road win.

[Brian Fantana 6667]

Fuck TCU and fuck Jamie Dixon

[Hookem2147 20928]

3 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

The Boynton era has to be over you would think.

I was reading something the other day where OSU has the worst NIL in the conference and they know it. There is a chance they might focus on that this offseason instead of changing coaches.