GOLD CUP 2023 (General Discussion)

[Napoleon 8660]

This can be the thread for general observations, complaints, and comments about games that may or may not have an impact on our boys.

Groups:

 

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

They invited Qatar back? Effin why?

So which one would you say is the "Group of Death?"

 

[Napoleon 8660]

Check your local listings for the Haiti v Qatar match in Spanish.

All games in English on FS1.

The 1st & 3rd games are also on Univision.

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

TnT has long been one of my favorite teams from the region (I bear them no ill will for 2017) for one ridiculous reason: their nickname is in dialect.

Go Soca Warriors!

[Napoleon 8660]

This T&T v St. Kitts & Nevis match is a little rough on the ol’ eye balls. 

Full scale middle-aged former athletes’ competitive weekend league vibes. 

The players definitely care. The field is soaked. The play is ugly. You don’t feel a goal is nearly as likely as a straight red card sometime in the second half. 

Edited June 25, 2023 by Napoleon

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

This field is a swamp. IF there are any scores, the first one will come from someone falling, be it a defender that leaves an attacker in free against the keeper, or an offensive player who then is generously awarded a PK.

 

EDIT: WRONG. TnT scores off a nice looping ball out wide that's received off the chest, settled and quickly struck. Surprisingly nice goal.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Braff Zacklin

[Napoleon 8660]

I guess that body slams are fine as long as you touch the ball first. 

I can definitely see a straight red in the 2nd half. 

And just like that, T&T gets a good goal. Nice!

[ztejas 43411]

10 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

The players definitely care. The field is soaked. The play is ugly. You don’t feel a goal is nearly as likely as a straight red card sometime in the second half. 

Really out of character for CONCACAF.

[Napoleon 8660]

White defender for SKN channeled Miazga/J. Morris by keeping the opposing goal scorer onside.  It this guy chose to raise his hand for the flag as he was clearly keeping a the T&T guy on.

Shocked that a squad like SKN would have a defensive breakdown. 
 

PS- T&T’s #20 has a Zardes-level first touch.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Napoleon

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

All I know is, I'ma be a huge Honduras fan come about 7 p.m. Central.

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

Landon needs to clip that shit. Embrace the bald, dude. That looks ridiculous.

[Napoleon 8660]

Apparently the combined population of St. Kitts AND Nevis is about 47,000 people. That is smaller than UT.

I was checking the area out.

And it looks like there are a couple of places that I would like to visit. 

Booby Island, for obvious reasons. 
And I am interested to find out whether all of the ladies in Gingerland are descended from “Ginger” on “Gilligan’s Island”.

[ztejas 43411]

Their Newcastle can't be nearly as shitty as the one in England. 

[Napoleon 8660]

That should have been a second yellow in the Qatari defender who went from holding both hands behind his back and then moved his arm out to block a shot as he turned his body. 

Dr. Joe just said that Qatar should have gotten a yellow. 

Then Qatar boots the ball away after fouling ear their own box and THAT should have also been a yellow. 

Qatar, and their futbolistas, suck(s)!

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

I like this Haiti team.

I do not like the Qatari team. Or its government. Fuck 'em.

Deserved yellow for simulation. Fuckface.

 

EDIT: And fuck "Dr." Joe Machnik. He has no business being involved with this broadcast.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Braff Zacklin

[WBT 20561]

Qatar still paying people to wear Qatar shirts in the stands or nah?

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

Agree with the commentators--THAT should've been a penalty kick for Qatar.

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

Qatar gives up a 97th minute goal. That has to be heartbreaking.

 

I love it.

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

Apparently, Honduras was not aware that the match was starting.

[Horn80 6114]

Nice shot Mexico

[Hagbard Celine 10850]

vamos catrachos

[Hagbard Celine 10850]

3-0 tri

little chance for bitchassedness now

tri fans get what they paid for

[Bottlecap 1523]

This confederation is so fuckin lame

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

Honduras is so bad.

But full credit to El Tri--they are being ruthlessly opportunistic.

[Horn80 6114]

Mexico dominating Honduras 4-0.

[SimonBolivar 10957]

Yall remember when TnT made the WC back in 06? Man this confederation is trash lol

[Ted Lange 16084]

Gold Cup.  Serious business 

[Bottlecap 1523]

Looks like a Texans game

[Ted Lange 16084]

Nah, too many people there.

[Captain Ron 12866]

On 6/24/2023 at 6:57 PM, Braff Zacklin said:

So which one would you say is the "Group of Death?"

I wouldn't be shocked to see Costa Rica fail to make it out of Group C. I wouldn't call it the Group of Death, but they don't have the drop off the rest of the groups have.

[ztejas 43411]

5 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Gold Cup.  Serious business 

Why are we singling one guy out? Just arrest all of them. 

[Helobious 9450]

Casual el tri fan… is this tournament unrelated to the US beat down last week? I saw Mexico fired their coach and the fans were gonna boycott because the team has been so shitty the past few years. Shocked that they put on Honduras that heavily. Is Honduras just that bad? No way can a team improve that much that quick by firing a coach.

[Ted Lange 16084]

Martinique jumps out to a 2-0 lead vs El Salvador after 15 minutes.   In the last 3 USMNT/ El Salvador matches, 270 minutes, a Gregg lead USMNT managed to outscore El Salvador 2-1 (1-1, 0-0, 1-0).

Edited June 26, 2023 by Ted Lange

[Ted Lange 16084]

LOL

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

 When will this El Tri on El Tri violence stop?

 

 

And does it really have to?

[Ted Lange 16084]

It’s like a JNIP family reunion. 

[Napoleon 8660]

6 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

It’s like a JNIP family reunion. 

This shit will never not be funny. 😂

 

Panama 1 - 0 Costa Rica

1st half

No Costa Rican pressure on a Panamanian throw in on the left side. Then the Panamanian sends in a lovely curling cross and anothe Panamanian comes flying In towards the near post and heads a quick ball between the near post and the keeper for a 1-0 lead. 

Just about halftime  

 

[WBT 20561]

Como se dice Worldstar!

[Captain Ron 12866]

39 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

This shit will never not be funny. 😂

 

Panama 1 - 0 Costa Rica

1st half

No Costa Rican pressure on a Panamanian throw in on the left side. Then the Panamanian sends in a lovely curling cross and anothe Panamanian comes flying In towards the near post and heads a quick ball between the near post and the keeper for a 1-0 lead. 

Just about halftime  

 

The Costa Rican back line is a mess. Como se dice Aaron Long?

Now 0-2.

 

And agree on the JNip thing. That shit is funny. 

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

So as I was saying a week ago, Canada's backline is no bueno.

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

So Guadaloupe takes a 1-0 advantage into intermission, but the Canucks equalize right out of the half. About 20 minutes later, an own goal from Guadaloupe gives the Maple Leafs a 2-1 lead.

And that was gonna be all she wrote ... until Canada returns the favor with an own goal of their own deep into stoppage time, leaving it 2-2.

Kind of a shit game despite all the scoring, though.

[Ted Lange 16084]

 

 

[Ted Lange 16084]

 

[ztejas 43411]

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

We are by far the best team in CONCACAF right now. Which is scary for the other teams because we could still be managed from the top down much better. 

[The Dog 44019]

Thierry Henry's parents were from Guadelupe and Martinique - would have been cool to see him in a Gold Cup match for either.

Edited June 28, 2023 by The Dog

[ztejas 43411]

8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Thierry Henry's parents were from Guadelupe and Martinique - would have been cool to see him in a Gold Cup match for either.

Transfermkt has their current roster at €10M.

Not exactly stacked. 

[The Dog 44019]

33 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Transfermkt has their current roster at €10M.

Not exactly stacked. 

it is relative to the rest of CONCACAF (outside of the top 4):

this is from 3 days ago so the actual games for many had yet to occur.

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

LoL poor Cuba and St. Kitts.

And double lulz at Costa Rica. That's $8M starting value with an aging Joel Campbell playing ... so I guess the rest of the team is worth about ... tree fiddy?

 

Thought exercise: why does Jamaica so routinely underdeliver? Must be an organizational issue because it seems like the Reggae Boyz have always had some talent at key positions.

[ztejas 43411]

18 minutes ago, The Dog said:

it is relative to the rest of CONCACAF (outside of the top 4):

this is from 3 days ago so the actual games for many had yet to occur.

Well yeah but he was talking about the game they just played against Canada.

[The Dog 44019]

39 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

 

Thought exercise: why does Jamaica so routinely underdeliver? Must be an organizational issue because it seems like the Reggae Boyz have always had some talent at key positions.

It all depends on how many dual nats born in England they can convince to play for them.

11 of the 13 players they have playing in England were born in England.

It's like the entire team is Baloguns and Musahs.

35 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Well yeah but he was talking about the game they just played against Canada.

I get it but the point is that Guadeloupe is more like playing a team like Costa Rica or Honduras rather than St. Kitts or Barbados.