WTF is wrong with you, France? (No CR)

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France has been rocked by a wave of protests after a 17-year-old youth was shot by police near Paris Tuesday, sparking a ban on demonstrations in some cities, travel warnings and reigniting a debate on overpolicing in marginalized communities.

Scenes emerged of people setting fires to vehicles and climbing onto buildings with smashed windows, while riot police officers fiercely clashed with demonstrators.

The unrest prompted a crisis response from French President Emmanuel Macron, who held an emergency meeting with ministers as he attempts to bridge divisions and unite the country in his second term.

 

 

 

 

Protesters have been carrying signs that read,”the police kill” and hundreds of government buildings have been damaged as Nahel’s death taps into anger over racial bias in the country.

Successive nights of violence across France and its overseas territories have in turn prompted French officials launch a crackdown. More than 40,000 police officers have been mobilized to patrol cities across the country, nearly 1,000 people have been arrested and more than 200 police officers have been injured.

In Paris alone, 5,000 security personnel were deployed. Officers were given powers to quell riots, make arrests, and “restore republican order,” French Interior Minister Gerard Darmanin said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/30/europe/nanterre-france-police-protests-explainer-intl/index.html

Edited July 1, 2023 by Parliament

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,977]

If France knows how to do anything, it's to throw a good riot. Marie Antoinette out front should have told you.

[WBT 20,672]

Bastille Day is coming 2 weeks early this year!

[RDCanecutter 26,476]

The French have their own verb for burning a car.  It's cramer. eg "Bonsoir messieurs-dames, veuillez agréer mes sentiments les plus profonds pour avoir si brutalement cramé votre bagnole."

https://www.theonion.com/french-again-protest-in-way-americans-are-welcome-to-at-1850591964

 

[ultimaton 2,982]

[Gengs1 2,583]

A person who isn’t supposed to operate a vehicle, gets pulled over, tried to run over a police office and gets shot.

Seems like ppl from shithole countries rioting in France and burning down a library as well, a library with books 

case of FAFO

Edited July 1, 2023 by Gengs1

[atomheartbevo 89,824]

1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

If France knows how to do anything, it's to throw a good riot. Marie Antoinette out front should have told you.

Toss in some prodding from Russian bot farms.

[safe sex 11,792]

If you've never seen this mid 90s French masterpiece and can speak French, here is La Haine in full on YouTube.  May as well have been made yesterday.

Here's the trailer. It's worth renting on Amazon so you can have English subtitles.

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by safe sex

[futureman 22,552]

reasonable response from good well-meaning folks. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2,652]

Looks like they attacked a Paris’ suburban mayor’s home by ramming it with a flaming car and shooting fireworks through windows.  Wife broke her leg while using her body to block the kiddos from the attack.

all while mayor was in command center dealing with riots.

oh and Paris holocaust monument has been ransacked.

guess you can say things are escalating? 

Edited July 2, 2023 by FORTY NINE TO ZERO

[ztejas 43,546]

4 minutes ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

Looks like they attacked a Paris’ suburban mayor’s home by ramming it with a flaming car and fireworhh it a through windows.  Wife broke her leg while using her body to block the kiddos from the attack.

all while mayor was in command center dealing with riots.

oh and Paris holocaust monument has been ransacked.

guess you can say things are escalating? 

[ClubWhatever 12,158]

3 hours ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

oh and Paris holocaust monument has been ransacked.

The Jews Did This lip read soccer player gif 

[UpperWestside 6,190]

3 hours ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

Looks like they attacked a Paris’ suburban mayor’s home by ramming it with a flaming car and shooting fireworks through windows.  Wife broke her leg while using her body to block the kiddos from the attack.

all while mayor was in command center dealing with riots.

oh and Paris holocaust monument has been ransacked.

guess you can say things are escalating? 

Go big or go home. 

[HornOnTheBayou 8,950]

Oh shit, this is serious. Someone needs to call in the French army. They should still have some early 20th century rifles that have barely been used in the armory that could take care of this. 

[Parliament 14,334]

I believe they can be found in the basement of the Bastille.

[52-80 19,262]

14 hours ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

Looks like they attacked a Paris’ suburban mayor’s home by ramming it with a flaming car and shooting fireworks through windows.  Wife broke her leg while using her body to block the kiddos from the attack.

all while mayor was in command center dealing with riots.

oh and Paris holocaust monument has been ransacked.

guess you can say things are escalating? 

[GopherRock 1,770]

Going on strike is the national sport of France. 

[HenryJames 66,188]

 

[SimonBolivar 10,960]

12 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Oh shit, this is serious. Someone needs to call in the French army. They should still have some early 20th century rifles that have barely been used in the armory that could take care of this. 

I think you mean mid-century. The early century ones are heavily used and covered in blood.

[Texzilla58 4,744]

They keep saying they are at war. I guess that means both sides are looking to surrender.

[futureman 22,552]

it’s a horrible mess, on many uncomfortable levels. 

[statsman 5,486]

I hope this isn’t cloak room-

Yeah, they have an assimilation problem. As European nations rely, economically, on immigration, they’re going to have to figure it out. 
 
(One of the things I love about America- we are about the most successful, rich and powerful nation to NEVER make the claim that we are some kind of superior genetic stock. We have never made that claim, because it would be ridiculous. We are the mongrels of the world). 
 
I have read these riots will generate support for le Pen’s party. It is described as far right. As a US conservative, I hate that description for a party that embraces state economic control over market control. 
 
It seems to me that a single left right axis does a poor job of describing politics. I prefer two axes- authoritarian to libertarian on one axis and state controlled economy to free market economy on the other. I think both US parties are more libertarian than any major Euro party and more in favor of markets than any major Euro party. 

[Schulz2.0 29,012]

2 minutes ago, statsman said:

I have read these riots will generate support for le Pen’s party. It is described as far right.

Le Pen and her party are definitely far right. I don't get the objection. 

[Brian Fantana 6,691]

10 minutes ago, statsman said:

I hope this isn’t cloak room-

Yeah, they have an assimilation problem. As European nations rely, economically, on immigration, they’re going to have to figure it out. 
 
(One of the things I love about America- we are about the most successful, rich and powerful nation to NEVER make the claim that we are some kind of superior genetic stock. We have never made that claim, because it would be ridiculous. We are the mongrels of the world). 
 
I have read these riots will generate support for le Pen’s party. It is described as far right. As a US conservative, I hate that description for a party that embraces state economic control over market control. 
 
It seems to me that a single left right axis does a poor job of describing politics. I prefer two axes- authoritarian to libertarian on one axis and state controlled economy to free market economy on the other. I think both US parties are more libertarian than any major Euro party and more in favor of markets than any major Euro party. 

Precious.

[Js1 85,602]

21 minutes ago, statsman said:

(One of the things I love about America- we are about the most successful, rich and powerful nation to NEVER make the claim that we are some kind of superior genetic stock. We have never made that claim, because it would be ridiculous. We are the mongrels of the world). 

This is a bit, right? 

[statsman 5,486]

36 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Le Pen and her party are definitely far right. I don't get the objection. 

I came of political age in the ‘80s. To me, right wing, economically, means Coolidge or Reagan. In Europe, the conservative (more right) parties all still advocate for state control of the economy. They just want to direct the economy for nationalist purposes. 
 
I’m thinking back to 1930s Germany, and the enmity between the national socialists (Nazis) and international socialists (communists). They hated each other. Both parties advocated authoritarianism, the former in support of nationalist advances and the latter in support of a societal transformation.  
Both parties wanted state control of the economy, the Nazis less than the communists, but still much, much more control than FDR would have ever hoped for (and forget Wendell Wilkie; the continent had no major political figures like him). 
 
My point is - le Pen is right of the mainstream and there may even be Americans that feel an affinity with her party, but there is no political party in the US that aligns with her, in terms of liberties, both civil and economic. 

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On 7/3/2023 at 7:15 AM, GopherRock said:

Going on strike is the national sport of France. 

This.  They've been protesting in the streets for various reasons going back to Oct. of '22.  Corsica unrests, shooting in '22 of young Kurds, the pension reform of '23 really got them spun up and drew some of the largest crowds, and now this.  It's a powder keg.  

[Texzilla58 4,744]

The French have been going on strike as a national pastime for over two centuries. Man the baricades I just can’t face all 28 hours of work this week. And yet less than half of them own a toothbrush.

[Deej 76,946]

It's like someone asked them to work more than 30 hours a week and wait until they are 55 to retire. 

[Deej 76,946]

If only they had put this much effort in against Germany. 

[Newdoc 3,453]

The work ethic in a lot of Europe is just different than here. So expectations of retirement and a work day/week are different. It’s interesting to see how the day to day work goes in different countries.  The US certainly has its warts on employment, employer conduct and labor participation as well. 

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I'm pretty sure Surly Horns was invented by the Russians to keep us from working and being productive.