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Prominent NY architect (not George Costanza) arrested and charged with six counts of murder dating to 2010

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Maybe they caught "The Lopper."

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/long-island-police-gilgo-beach-serial-killings/index.html

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The case against Rex Heuermann, the suspect arrested in the infamous Gilgo Beach murders, came together over a two-year restart of the investigation, according to two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case.

Investigators went through phone records collected from both midtown Manhattan and the Massapequa Park area of Long Island — two areas connected to a “burner phone” they had tied to the killings. (In court, prosecutors later said the burner phone was identified via an email account used to "solicit and arrange for sexual activity." The victims had all been Craigslist escorts, according to officials.)

They then narrowed records collected by cell towers to thousands, then to hundreds, and finally down to a handful of people who could match a suspect in the killings.

From there, authorities focused on people who lived in the area of the cell tower and also matched a physical description given by a witness who had seen the suspected killer.

In that narrowed pool, they searched for a connection to a green pickup truck that a witness had seen the suspect driving, the sources said.

Investigators eventually landed on Heuermann, who they say matched a witness' physical description, lived close to the Long Island cell site and worked near the New York City cell sites that captured the other calls.

They also learned he had often driven a green pickup truck, registered to his brother, officials said. But they needed more than just circumstantial evidence.

Investigators were able to obtain DNA from an immediate family member and send it to a specialized lab, sources said. According to the lab report, Heuermann's family member was shown to be related to a person who left DNA on a burlap sack containing one of the buried victims.

This evidence was already being presented to a grand jury, but as leaks about a possible break in the case emerged this week, authorities decided to arrest Heuermann Thursday night, the sources said.

The team responsible for the investigation was a task force created by Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison, who assembled county police detectives, investigators from the sheriff’s office, state police and the FBI, according to the sources.

 

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Investigators were able to obtain DNA from an immediate family member and send it to a specialized lab, sources said. According to the lab report, Heuermann's family member was shown to be related to a person who left DNA on a burlap sack containing one of the buried victims.

Law dawgs chime in: that seems like a huge box of inadmissible evidence. 

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54 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Law dawgs chime in: that seems like a huge box of inadmissible evidence. 

Just basing my response off the portion you quotes, you don’t think they will get a sample of his DNA now that he’s in custody? They’re not going to trial based on his family member’s DNA being related to the killer.

Thats also the same thing that lead investigators to the Iowa dude who killed those four college students 

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Investigators went through phone records collected from both midtown Manhattan and the Massapequa Park area of Long Island — two areas connected to a “burner phone” they had tied to the killings. (In court, prosecutors later said the burner phone was identified via an email account used to "solicit and arrange for sexual activity." The victims had all been Craigslist escorts, according to officials.)

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

They then narrowed records collected by cell towers to thousands, then to hundreds, and finally down to a handful of people who could match a suspect in the killings.

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In court, prosecutors later said the burner phone was identified via an email account used to "solicit and arrange for sexual activity." The victims had all been Craigslist escorts, according to officials.

I hope Icono hasn’t been committing any crimes in Houston 

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10 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

Great.  Got 13 RFIs and 8 submittals that ain’t gonna get processed.

Should buy us time on the schedule though, long lead times and all.  Fucker speced shit from out of state and all.  At the end of the day, I'm just here to help the architect see his vision come to fruition.  

I do think a viable defense would be insanity due to owner initiated changes mid project, combined with subsequent bitching about cost increases by said owner.  

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Serial killings suspect made taunting calls to victim's family and admitted to murder, prosecutors allege

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The suspect in the Long Island serial killings used the cell phone of at least one of the victims to taunt family members and admitted to killing and sexually assaulting her, prosecutors allege in court documents.

Rex Heuermann, who was arrested Thursday on suspicion of killing three of the four women known as the "Gilgo Four," made multiple taunting calls to the family of Melissa Barthelemy, the documents allege.

In one of the calls, he "admitted killing and sexually assaulting Ms. Barthelemy," according to a bail application filed by the Suffolk County district attorney. 

Investigators say they linked Heuermann to the locations where taunting phone calls or other activity was made on Barthelemy's phone, as well as the phone of Maureen Brainard-Barnes — a fourth woman Heuermann is considered the "prime suspect" for killing — after their disappearances.

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1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Law dawgs chime in: that seems like a huge box of inadmissible evidence. 

admissible

family member DNA was collected from something discarded, like a cup at a restaurant, no expectation of privacy in something that is put in the trash

and furthermore, defendant has no expectation of privacy in the DNA of another (no standing to challenge a search or seizure)

and I'm sure they just executed a warrant already for a buccal swab on him and it'll exclude double the number of people on earth

 

 

 

still, there is a chance Craig James did this

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2 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Law dawgs chime in: that seems like a huge box of inadmissible evidence. 

Goes to weight, not admissibility.   I mean, the DNA evidence does not rule out other family members beside the guy they arrested.  But given that evidence, they can get a search warrant for the coffee cup in his kitchen and his old clothes waiting to be laundered.  And then match up that DNA to the DNA on the burlap sack for the perfect connection. 

He toast. 

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44 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

Great.  Got 13 RFIs and 8 submittals that ain’t gonna get processed.

I bet you can whittle that RFI list down by 10 if you pulled your head out of your ass and 5 of those submittals aren't even close to what was clearly shown on the plans. 

Juuuust kidding around. 

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Authorities were able to obtain a search warrant for Long Island serial killings suspect Rex Heuermann's Google results and watch as he tried to keep up with the investigation, Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said Friday.

"In a 14-month period, he had over 200 searches pertaining to the Gilgo (Beach serial killings) investigation," Tierney said.

"He was looking at investigative insight. He was looking, trying to figure out, 'How is the task force using cell phones to try to figure out what is happening? What are the developments with regard to the task force?''" he continued.

The warrant also revealed Heuermann was "compulsively" searching for images of the victims and their families, "and he was trying to locate those individuals."

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Hair believed to be from Rex Heuermann’s wife was found on or near three of the Gilgo Beach murder victims, prosecutors alleged, citing DNA testing.

Forensic labs were able to match with near 100% certainty the hairs in July, prosecutors say, after investigators recovered 11 bottles from a garbage can outside Heuermann’s house. They took swabs of the bottles and subsequently matched with close to 100% certainty that DNA to the four female human hairs, according to the bail application.

One female human hair was found on one of the buckles of the three belts used to tie Maureen Brainard-Barnes’ feet, ankle and legs together, prosecutors say.

Heuermann is the prime suspect in the disappearance and death of Brainard-Barnes, the district attorney said in its bail application Friday. However, he has not yet been charged in connection with her murder.

Heuermann was charged in connection with the murder of the other three women, known together with Brainard-Barnes as the "Gilgo Four."

Two female hairs were found on a piece of tape and “outside the head area” of Megan Waterman’s body, prosecutors say. 

Another female hair was also found on a piece of tape that bound Amber Costello’s body, prosecutors say.

“As previously noted, Defendant Heuermann’s wife was out-of-state at the time of Ms. Waterman and Ms. Costello’s disappearance and murders,” prosecutors state in the bail application. “As such, it is likely that the burlap, tape, vehicle(s) or other instrumentalities utilized in furtherance of these murders came from Defendant Heuermann’s residence, where his wife also resides, or was transferred from his clothing.”
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8 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

The family member DNA most likely was a hit from 23and me or something like that.  They kept linking more because his family happened to be out of town during the 4 murders

Wait... we shouldn't be giving away our DNA to private corporations? 

Next you'll tell me the government spies on our internet activity. 

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9 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I bet you can whittle that RFI list down by 10 if you pulled your head out of your ass and 5 of those submittals aren't even close to what was clearly shown on the plans. 

Juuuust kidding around. 

I didn’t look at them.  It’s what the subs submitted.

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The suspect in the Long Island serial killings used the cell phone of at least one of the victims to taunt family members and admitted to killing and sexually assaulting her, prosecutors allege in court documents.

Rex Heuermann, who was arrested Thursday on suspicion of killing three of the four women known as the "Gilgo Four," made multiple taunting calls to the family of Melissa Barthelemy, the documents allege.

In one of the calls, he "admitted killing and sexually assaulting Ms. Barthelemy," according to a bail application filed by the Suffolk County district attorney. 

Investigators say they linked Heuermann to the locations where taunting phone calls or other activity was made on Barthelemy's phone, as well as the phone of Maureen Brainard-Barnes — a fourth woman Heuermann is considered the "prime suspect" for killing — after their disappearances.

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17 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Wait... we shouldn't be giving away our DNA to private corporations? 

Next you'll tell me the government spies on our internet activity. 

Haha.  I would be pretty pissed off if I had gotten away with killing hookers for 20 years and then my cousin submits a 23andme and gets me busted.  He would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling corporations 

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So, reading through some of the articles and they talk about him leaving just across the bay of the dump sites. My question is it on the water so he can could just sit on the back porch and admire his handiwork with his morning coffee?

He has the money and means to dispose of the bodies in a variety of ways (why not buy a boat and drop them in the middle of the ocean as an example) and yet he kept burying them in a fairly specific location. 
 

Serial killers fascinate me because in the end when they get caught, regardless how hard they try to blend into society, it is some aspect of their compulsion or desire for power that ends up leading the cops to them.

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4 hours ago, FartingMonk said:

Haha.  I would be pretty pissed off if I had gotten away with killing hookers for 20 years and then my cousin submits a 23andme and gets me busted.  He would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling corporations 

Craig James have any relatives out there. Just sayin’

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57 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

Serial killers fascinate me because in the end when they get caught, regardless how hard they try to blend into society, it is some aspect of their compulsion or desire for power that ends up leading the cops to them.

How many are still out there blending in?? 

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