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On Sooner Scoop, they are discussing their transfer WR Burks (they went into the season counting on him; I guess they invested a lot of their NIL). Rumor is that he had an abdominal injury (maybe similar to Ewers’?). Venables stated that he hopes he plays against Texas. The fans took that cue and are questioning his toughness and commitment if he doesn’t play. 

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7 minutes ago, statsman said:

On Sooner Scoop, they are discussing their transfer WR Burks (they went into the season counting on him; I guess they invested a lot of their NIL). Rumor is that he had an abdominal injury (maybe similar to Ewers’?). Venables stated that he hopes he plays against Texas. The fans took that cue and are questioning his toughness and commitment if he doesn’t play. 

Similar on Sooners Illustrated, but the mods have indicated lower body soft tissue. 

They expect to get Tatum back. The complication there is that he didn’t just get concussed, but mildly hurt something in his upper body. He’s as close to a sure return as they have on the current IR. 

The rumors have been floated of a Farooq return for the Texas game. Okay. The dude is a JAG. Also, his foot injury is a recurring issue that they should have operated on in the spring. If they rush him back for Texas, how effective will he be? The mods are skeptical but an insider has insisted on it. 

Anderson ain’t returning to the field or the program after the season if their mods are reliable. They’re speaking as though they’re certain. 

Anthony is done. Gentry Williams might be done for the year because they’re saying he’s not showing a lot of progress on the shoulder. 

The biggest break for the bye week on OU’s end is with the OL. They need the time together and they’ve been banged up. 

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38 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The biggest break for the bye week on OU’s end is with the OL. They need the time together and they’ve been banged up. 

Agreed. Whoever they trot out at WR and RB isn't going to matter if they can't keep the QB clean or get movement in the run game.

I didn't watch them very closely against Auburn, but it seemed like the OL was better than they were against Tennessee. I don't know how much of that had to do with the Tenn DL being one of the best in the country compared to what Auburn is trotting out there, but improvement is improvement. OU still has one of the better OL coaches in the country. If they can get anything close to competent line play, they might be able to hit some things here and there with a running QB.

But otherwise? I think they're fucked going into Dallas. It's going to take multiple Texas turnovers and/or special teams gaffes for them to win.

 

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Similar on Sooners Illustrated, but the mods have indicated lower body soft tissue. 

They expect to get Tatum back. The complication there is that he didn’t just get concussed, but mildly hurt something in his upper body. He’s as close to a sure return as they have on the current IR. 

The rumors have been floated of a Farooq return for the Texas game. Okay. The dude is a JAG. Also, his foot injury is a recurring issue that they should have operated on in the spring. If they rush him back for Texas, how effective will he be? The mods are skeptical but an insider has insisted on it. 

Anderson ain’t returning to the field or the program after the season if their mods are reliable. They’re speaking as though they’re certain. 

Anthony is done. Gentry Williams might be done for the year because they’re saying he’s not showing a lot of progress on the shoulder. 

The biggest break for the bye week on OU’s end is with the OL. They need the time together and they’ve been banged up. 

Tatum should be good to go. Hopefully Burks can go, but we’ll see. Anderson is probably done for the year and draft focused (which is nuts). I don’t see the optimism with Farooq anytime soon- maybe by the last quarter of the season. Gentry is done for the year with his shoulder. Anthony done for sure. 

OL getting some time to continue getting healthy and get some work together will be huge. Auburn was the first time the 5 that Bedenbaugh wanted out there played together. Hickman is still hurt, but playing through it. 

Bye week also greatly benefits the defense getting some rest. With the offense sucking they have played a ton of snaps and it showed against Auburn. They looked generally slower and lethargic which led to our worst tackling day of the season. 76 defensive snaps against Auburn, and 75 against Tennessee. 

Total MASH unit. Texas should dismantle their football program if they lose to this team. 

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Some rumblings from blOU fans that Graham Harrell (who has worked for Littrell) be added as an offensive analyst immediately...

 

How ex-Purdue offensive coordinator Graham Harrell went from hot coaching name to midseason firing

By Will Backus    Sep 30, 2024 

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Graham Harrell was once college football's next big thing. A record-shattering quarterback at Texas Tech that played in, and studied under, Mike Leach's innovative Air Raid offense, Harrell went into coaching after a brief stint at the professional level and earned his first offensive coordinator gig at just 31 years old. 

But now, he's been cast out as Purdue's offensive coordinator four games into his second season with the program. He is the first Power Four coordinator to get the axe in 2024, with Purdue -- which fell to 1-3 after a Week 5 loss to Nebraska -- being his third school since 2021. 

It was an understandable decision from Purdue coach Ryan Walters, who is now 5-11 through his first 16 games in West Lafayette. The Boilermakers scored 49 points in their season opener against FCS Indiana State and have since put 38 total points on the board in three straight games against FBS opponents. Their 12.7 points per game over the last three weeks rank No. 122 nationally. 

Purdue failed to reach at least 100 yards rushing in two of its four games, and 18 drives ended in a three-and-out in its last three games. It ranks 15th in the Big Ten in both total offense (322 yards per game) and scoring offense (21.8 points per game). 

A lot of the inefficiency is due to a passing attack -- and, again, Harrell is a Leach disciple -- that averages a paltry 172.2 yards per game. Quarterback Hudson Card has thrown at least one pick six in each of Purdue's last three games. 

The numbers weren't any better in 2023, either. The Boilermakers scored at least 20 points just three times against Big Ten opponents, and their 211.2 yards passing per game was the program's lowest mark since 2014. 

Walters had plenty of evidence to make the change, but it also smacks of a decision made to bail water from a sinking ship. To pin Purdue's problems on the offense alone would be disingenuous. Walters came to Purdue after two seasons as the defensive coordinator at Illinois. The Boilermakers currently field the Big Ten's worst defense, ranking dead last in the conference in scoring (33 ppg), total defense (399 ypg) and rush defense (242 ypg). 

Purdue is the only program in the nation without a single forced turnover all year yet is distinctly undisciplined with an FBS-worst 92 penalty yards per game. Harrell's offense was ineffective, yes, but Purdue has systemic problems that go much deeper than one assistant coach. 

That's a common refrain throughout Harrell's career. In 2019, USC hired Harrell, fresh off leading consecutive top-30 offenses at North Texas, in part to try to help right the tailspin that the Trojans were taking under former coach Clay Helton. 

It worked. USC improved its win total from 5-7 to 8-5, and went from 4-5 in Pac-12 play to 7-2. Harrell's offense averaged 454 yards 32.5 points per game, and quarterback Kedon Slovis was named the 2019 Pac-12 Freshman of the Year. 

Harrell fielded interest from other college programs, including Tom Herman's Texas Longhorns, and even the NFL's Philadelphia Eagles, but USC gave him a big raise to stick around Los Angeles. In a COVID-shortened 2020 season, the Trojans went 5-1 while averaging 33.3 points per game, returned to the Pac-12 Championship Game for the first time since 2017 and finished the year ranked No. 21 in the AP Top 25. 

That's when the wheels fell off. Helton was fired two games into the 2021 season after a loss to Stanford, and amid all the turmoil, Harrell's offense took a nosedive. He wasn't retained when Lincoln Riley came to Los Angeles and brought an entirely new philosophy with him. 

Harrell landed on his feet as the offensive coordinator at West Virginia, working under another coach under tremendous pressure in Neal Brown, who had two losing seasons in his first three years leading the Mountaineers. 

There was no miracle turnaround. West Virginia lost seven games for the third time in four years and matched its worst conference showing under Brown with a 3-6 record in Big 12 play. Harrell's offense did average a respectable 412.6 yards per game, but it struggled to finish drives in the red zone and fielded one of the Big 12's worst rushing attacks, finishing eighth in the conference with 135.1 yards on the ground on average. 

So Harrell left -- not necessarily fired, but not necessarily welcomed back -- to join Walters' inaugural staff at Purdue. He lasted 16 games. 

At just 39 years old, Harrell should still have a lengthy career ahead of him. But a string of tough gigs and circumstances beyond his control have a once promising future in question. 

 

BOMBSHELL! Are The RUMORS True About Oklahoma Sooners Coaching Search? 

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On 10/2/2024 at 10:58 AM, LTtxfan said:

Some rumblings from blOU fans that Graham Harrell (who has worked for Littrell) be added as an offensive analyst immediately...

 

How ex-Purdue offensive coordinator Graham Harrell went from hot coaching name to midseason firing

By Will Backus    Sep 30, 2024 

 

BOMBSHELL! Are The RUMORS True About Oklahoma Sooners Coaching Search? 

This kind of thing being celebrated by those idiots is akin to ATM and Arkansas fans being excited about Bobby Petrino. These guys are retreads heading in the wrong direction of their careers. Harrell should start looking for new industries and career paths, as bad as he’s been.

Getting shitcanned midseason at a P4 backwater like Purdue has to be rock bottom, right? Nope. Working as an analyst for a terrible OU OC who is also on the verge of getting the heave-ho has to be even lower, I guess. 

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Is the 14.5 point spread quoted everywhere for real? Or an outlier being used for dramatic effect? Sagarins indicate Texas should be a nine point favorite. 
 
I’m pretty sure no one in the program is treating this like anything but a total effort game. 

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21 minutes ago, statsman said:

Is the 14.5 point spread quoted everywhere for real? Or an outlier being used for dramatic effect? Sagarins indicate Texas should be a nine point favorite. 
 
I’m pretty sure no one in the program is treating this like anything but a total effort game. 

The people who make betting lines are trying to get 50% of the betting money on each side of the spread, so they have to make the spread large enough so that the fans/bettors of the underdog to feel like the underdog has a chance to stay within the predicted score, and vice versa.

 

that means if a LOT of $$ comes in on the favorite early, the line will move to get more bettors to place bets on the underdog and vice versa.

 

All that to say the people who make the betting lines are “manipulating” the line to make the most $$, not necessarily to get the score/winner/spread correct.

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45 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

Wasn’t it Harrell that turned down the UT OC offer, which then put us in panic mode as the UT President personally went live on the visit to Sterlin Gilbert.  Glad we missed on GH

No Harrell was late 2019 OC rumor to replace Tim Beck...  Herman hired Mike Yurcich

https://www.si.com/college/texas/football/texas-football-potential-oc-candidate-graham-harrell-seems-to-have-plenty-of-options-on-his-plate

 

Didn't know Sterlin is now at CAL

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3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

This kind of thing being celebrated by those idiots is akin to ATM and Arkansas fans being excited about Bobby Petrino. These guys are retreads heading in the wrong direction of their careers. Harrell should start looking for new industries and career paths, as bad as he’s been.

Getting shitcanned midseason at a P4 backwater like Purdue has to be rock bottom, right? Nope. Working as an analyst for a terrible OU OC who is also on the verge of getting the heave-ho has to be even lower, I guess. 

Harrell isn’t near the level of offensive coach as Petrino. Obviously, Petrino is on the backend of his career, but he’s also obviously improved Arky’s offense. There’s no reason to think Harrell could similarly improve OU’s offense, but it’d be hard to make it worse. 

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2 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

No Harrell was late 2019 OC rumor to replace Tim Beck...  Herman hired Mike Yurcich

https://www.si.com/college/texas/football/texas-football-potential-oc-candidate-graham-harrell-seems-to-have-plenty-of-options-on-his-plate

 

Didn't know Sterlin is now at CAL

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I thought Yurcich had a chance to be pretty good. 
 

I was quite wrong

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1 hour ago, nbmishoid said:

Wasn’t it Harrell that turned down the UT OC offer, which then put us in panic mode as the UT President personally went live on the visit to Sterlin Gilbert.  Glad we missed on GH

I believe you are thinking of another former Tech QB.  Sonny Cumbie was the guy we tried to get from TCU.  

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1 hour ago, gernblansten said:

Harrell isn’t near the level of offensive coach as Petrino. Obviously, Petrino is on the backend of his career, but he’s also obviously improved Arky’s offense. There’s no reason to think Harrell could similarly improve OU’s offense, but it’d be hard to make it worse. 

It’s relative, really. Improving Arkansas’ offense from last year is the lowest of bars. They had a worse OL than ATM and it rivaled any FBS program out there in terms of terrible. Enos was a laugher of a hire and then was fired mid-season while challenging students to fights over email. KJ Jefferson continued his regression of getting worse every season in his career and Sanders canceled his own season. You and I could improve upon that as Co-OCs. 

That said, there are at least 50 hires that could have been made with more current and sound resumes than Petrino. Boosters forced that hire and many times, those guys are victimized by prior relationship biases and nostalgia. 

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There are a few 'problems' with the idea of analysts as saviors. 

1. OU has people problems at both WR and at OL 

2. they don't coach , also don't recruit 

an analyst is going to study opposing defenses looking for patterns and help assist advanced planning for playcalling, none of that matters when your WR have bricks for hands and your OL is injured swiss cheese 

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