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On 12/13/2024 at 4:49 PM, statsman said:

It’s like they have no idea how their program was built…

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They’ve been cheating their asses off since WWII when Bud Wilkin$on bought some titles in the 50s. Now go cry in the corner for 3/4 of a century, you sorry pieces of shit. I’m here for every second of it.

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On 12/12/2024 at 4:48 PM, statsman said:

In two weeks, they play Navy. Now, a month ago, OU probably had a significantly better team than Navy. Now, they are down to Hawkins at QB, the receivers are injured or in the portal, and I have no idea on who is sitting out. 
 
Navy, like a typical service academy, actually wants to win the bowl game and will be at full strength. 
 
This will be fun

Navy is going to truck OU…

 

And Burnt Vegetables will start next season a top of the coaches on the hot seat list.  

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17 hours ago, Scholz said:

They’ve been cheating their asses off since WWII when Bud Wilkin$on bought some titles in the 50s. Now go cry in the corner for 3/4 of a century, you sorry pieces of shit. I’m here for every second of it.

Yep.   Don’t forget about the late 80’s and the stuff that caused Switzer to leave.   With what SMU got during that era, OU should’ve been burned at the stake.  

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1 minute ago, South Austin said:

That list seems rather long.  Haven't really followed OU this season.  Are any of those transfers other than Nic Anderson worth a shit?

Does it matter? Currently -23 in the portal and not replacing anyone who has left with anyone worth a shit, yet. They are gonna have to load up on bread and JAGs to break even 

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28 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said:

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There are multiple starters on that list, multiple contributors or starters before injury, and young guys that they didn’t want to leave. Bread also. 

Fundamentally, losing almost a third of your roster in year 3, something is wrong. They did the same thing last year. Same for ATM both years. It’s not healthy. 

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28 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

On top of all their transfers, they are losing the heart of their defense to graduation: Stutsman, Downs, and Bowman. Woodi Washington and Dajon Terry played a lot too. Their defense was actually very good last year, especially considering how putrid their offense was.

Next year could be the worst Oklahoma team since John Blake went 3-8 in 1996.

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1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

I will say it again.  My favorite thing about this season (other than Texas being set up for a deep playoff run) is the spike in usage of the "since the John Blake era" qualifier when discussing OU football performance.

I really, really hope the Sooner spring reports say things like, “This looks like it will be the best defense OU has ever had!”

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JFC, they’ve cheated for generations and have had a horseshoe up their ass for a couple of decades replacing Heisman quality QBs with other Heisman quality QBs.  First true shit season in decades and they wanna whine about “life is unfair.”   In about 10 years averaging 6-6/ 7-5 seasons and going through 2-3 shit head coaches and their own Tyrone Swoops/ Case McCoy years then I’ll begin to hear your argument.  

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26 minutes ago, Lhorn said:

JFC, they’ve cheated for generations and have had a horseshoe up their ass for a couple of decades replacing Heisman quality QBs with other Heisman quality QBs.  First true shit season in decades and they wanna whine about “life is unfair.”   In about 10 years averaging 6-6/ 7-5 seasons and going through 2-3 shit head coaches and their own Tyrone Swoops/ Case McCoy years then I’ll begin to hear your argument.  

 

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9 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

On top of all their transfers, they are losing the heart of their defense to graduation: Stutsman, Downs, and Bowman. Woodi Washington and Dajon Terry played a lot too. Their defense was actually very good last year, especially considering how putrid their offense was.

Next year could be the worst Oklahoma team since John Blake went 3-8 in 1996.

I think some OU diehards wouldn’t mind another 6-5 or worse season if it meant getting rid of Burnt Vegetables.

He’s their Tom Herman.  Or Charlie Strong?

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26 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

I think some OU diehards wouldn’t mind another 6-5 or worse season if it meant getting rid of Burnt Vegetables.

He’s their Tom Herman.  Or Charlie Strong?

Charlie Strong

Defensive Coordinator turned HC 
Shuffling of the Offensive staff after he lays an egg 

I'm hoping their next coach actually is Tom Herman, that would be great. I'll settle for a Tom Herman though

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8 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

I will say it again.  My favorite thing about this season (other than Texas being set up for a deep playoff run) is the spike in usage of the "since the John Blake era" qualifier when discussing OU football performance.

I also fondly look at OU's football performance preventing Alabama from scoring a touchdown for the first time since 2011, which bounced DeBoer from the playoffs, whom largely inhereted a far more loaded roster than what he had the prior year at UW.

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Live in OKC. Some local guy called into the radio and said he wasn’t going to watch football for the next 4 years and all he wanted to do was focus on the OKC Thunder because his football team was so bad.

I have a coworker who used to post Ws on her wall after every OU win. She didn’t even bother this year.

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17 hours ago, Longboard Horn said:

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The shocking thing is I think they carried 9 WR on their roster this year and now 2/3rd of them are in the portal. I don't pay a whole lot of attention to recruiting however I cannot imagine a single P4 school having one position group that decimated. I think they signed 2 WR in the 2025 HS class. How many of the 3 non portal WR have eligibility left? Its just wild....

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14 hours ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

With this level of attrition, I am toying with the idea of putting a sizeable bet on Navy in their bowl game.  The line opened at 9 and it is down to 7.5.

 

 

Navy is going to win. Blake Horvath is going to run all over the OU defense. Book it! Plus, the Navy rush defense is good. 

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14 hours ago, Lhorn said:

JFC, they’ve cheated for generations and have had a horseshoe up their ass for a couple of decades replacing Heisman quality QBs with other Heisman quality QBs.  First true shit season in decades and they wanna whine about “life is unfair.”   In about 10 years averaging 6-6/ 7-5 seasons and going through 2-3 shit head coaches and their own Tyrone Swoops/ Case McCoy years then I’ll begin to hear your argument.  

I don’t believe it’s too soon to say their run is over. This ain’t the big 12/8

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I thought this was interesting- I remember, on Hornfans around 2001-2002, there was a lot of talk about Florida wanting to hire Stoops to replace Spurrier. I remember reading about it coming to a head during a big OU recruiting weekend, and how his announcement that he was staying at OU seemed staged and timed to help the Sooner recruiting. 
 
On the Sooner board discussions about Mateer and the portal, a few guys referred to that time, and said that Stoops and Florida actually reached an agreement. According to the Sooners, Stoops wanted to coach Florida, and tried to work it out so that he would leave his staff in Norman, and for his brother, Mike, to take over. Evidently, per this telling, Castiglione told theStoopses that he would have a national search for a HC replacement, and Mike wasn’t getting it, and that caused Bob Stoops to decide to stay. 
 
I have to say- that sounds more logical reading it, on Sooner boards, than writing it on a Texas board. 

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Even though it's expected, that's a good pickup for them and a significant upgrade over Arnold.  If they get some healthy WR's back and a few OL in the portal, they'll be serviceable next year.  With their schedule, 8-4 might be the ceiling.

On one hand, it's mind bottling how bad their offense was this past season for a whole list of reasons.  However, they made quick changes and cut their losses.  One week, Venables said he wouldn't make in season staffing changes.  The OC was gone the next week.

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The Sooner program was built for a different era: one where they paid star players under the table and their biggest rival enforced the rules. With a core of OOS mercenaries, they could build the rest of their squad by selling “tradition” and a winning program. Cheating—>Success—>”Tradition” over time. That formula was also used by Nebraska and the combination of $$$ + victories allowed both programs to overcome the liability of being based in Norman and Lincoln respectively for many years.

NIL utterly changed the equation. OU could not compete on compensation anymore. Money went from being an illicit advantage to an above board disadvantage for them. Then the issues of location and campus life could blossom as aggravating factors.

That left winning program as the sole remaining pillar of the old formula. That was bound to wane over time as the money shift drew talent away. But Sark sped up the erosion by adding program success to money in Austin.

The switch from an offense focused Lincoln Riley to defense first Venables was hugely disruptive. We’ve all seen how recruiting was skewed to the offensive side previously and how that tended to rob the defense of talent. BV had the wrong personnel for the team he wanted and an offensive system that didn’t feature the guys that Riley brought in. Maybe Venables could have transitioned the team over time but the success in Austin and his own record may not accord him that time. From a Longhorn perspective, it’s a mismatch made in Heaven. 

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1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

aggy thinks they are going to supplant the thieves as the "other dominant program" also at the expense of corndog

0u will not be down for long

let's hope vegetable wins just enough to stick around for multiple years

I think ou and aggy will be the same program going forward. Sometimes win 9 games or something but otherwise just kind of there hovering back and forth around .500 in conference play. 

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