Parents spend $4000 on Consultants to help daughters get into Sororities

[Wally Pryor 5411]

Bet they get a better return than the city of Austin does with its consultants. It hires consultants to select consultants, who then do nothing.

[tx 3 putt 78742]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

Soro consultant>stripper?

those soro houses are fucking atm’s, when done right. The stakes even higher now with increased social media 

Edited July 25, 2023 by tx 3 putt

[Biff Tannen 46201]

I vaguely scanned the first post, but my only reaction to the subject line of the post is “yep, sounds about right”. 

[BearSchlong 8252]

I sent the screenshot from the WSJ article to my daughter with “looks like I dodged a bullet” and she replied lol oh don't worry, you paid plenty. That said, she has Kappa sisters for life.

[Post Oak 20581]

I volunteer to give their daughters the sorority experience for much cheaper.

[Aqua Buddha 14809]

14 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

As an alumni of an Old Row house at Bama and with a daughter in a sorority at AU, I probably have a little more insight.

These consultants are worth it for out of state girls rushing at big Greek schools (Alabama, UGA, Auburn, Texas, TCU, LSU, Purdue, Wisconsin etc).

If your daughter is staying in state and rushing - don’t bother. The active members already know about your town, your school and their reputation.

Legacies don’t mean shit any more.

Last year my sorority had more legacies than they had spots. If they want you and you’re a legacy, that’s a bonus. But legacies get a courtesy invite to the second round and then most get cut - I’d say 50-60%.

The first round cuts are made strictly on grades. My sorority cuts anyone with below a 3.5 automatically. And the more popular houses have to make deeper cuts. It’s all done by a computer algorithm.

The biggest - and I mean BIGGEST - thing for girls going through rush is to clean up their social media and post pictures with variety and purpose and with a cohesive aesthetic- fun with friends (but no drinking and wild partying), family pictures, doing volunteer work, sports photos, pictures with their pets, doing stuff with their church etc.

And do it starting in your sophomore and junior year in high school. And go all the way to the first ever post for review. The sororities start looking at upcoming in state girls at least a year before.

And clean up comments - delete anything with cussing or any fights.

There’s a lot more but most alumni who live in the state can consult with these girls and give the same advice as these professional consultants.

If any of y’all ever have a daughter going to Bama or Auburn and are planning to rush, DM me and I’ll be happy to help.

I’ll only charge $800 lol

My niece is now a junior at Arky so, oddly enough, we know a decent amount about this subject and all of the above is spot on.  Arky (like Bama) has a bunch of out of state students that don't know anyone and no one knows them.  Niece in question hits all the marks.  Good grades, fun and outgoing personality, good story, and is hot.  (Sorry, that still matters and no pics.)  However, her mom is a single mom with no money.  She wasn't able to get into the top tier houses because of money and connections but she got into one of the solid ones with good academics and a nice house.  Since she's hot, she still gets invited to the good frat parties.  She's dated two guys at this point and one's mom was a partner at a law firm and the current is from the Park Cities.  So, yeah, some of this still matters if you want to be crass.

Her assigned roommate in the dorms during rush was from some small town and shaped like a whiskey barrel and didn't get bid by anyone.  She ended up with a bid on the last day by the worst house on campus after everyone turned them down.  Kinda sad but I laughed.

We enjoyed the Bama Rush show but it could have been better.

[texasdago 7772]

I'm trying to wrap my minds around this... the consultants can do anything to influence the situation unless they have a network of girls inside individual sorority houses that are on the take and can influence who gets a bid.  This is such a major racket.  It always boils down to who you know, popularity, all the usual crap to get into a fraternity or sorority.  These consultants... God bless 'em... they're the smart ones who get people to part with their money.  

Sorority Consultants = NFT artists

Grift under a different name.  

[crash_davis 23470]

1 minute ago, texasdago said:

I'm trying to wrap my minds around this... the consultants can do anything to influence the situation unless they have a network of girls inside individual sorority houses that are on the take and can influence who gets a bid.  This is such a major racket.  It always boils down to who you know, popularity, all the usual crap to get into a fraternity or sorority.  These consultants... God bless 'em... they're the smart ones who get people to part with their money.  

Sorority Consultants = NFT artists

Grift under a different name.  

Think of it this way. This is now the norm, having a great resume, awesome intro video, fun & safe social media presence. Any girl wanting to rush who doesn't have a normal (read great) profile will not present a great initial impression and will hurt them through the vetting and interview process. Can a girl wanting to rush present a great profile without using a consultant? Yes. But for the people in the Greek system, $4000 isn't that much money. It's a small fee if it gets the girl an increased chance to get a bid in a top Sorority.

And like others said, it's probably a must if coming from out of state.

I can't believe I just defended this shit.

[Aqua Buddha 14809]

10 minutes ago, texasdago said:

I'm trying to wrap my minds around this... the consultants can do anything to influence the situation unless they have a network of girls inside individual sorority houses that are on the take and can influence who gets a bid.  This is such a major racket.  It always boils down to who you know, popularity, all the usual crap to get into a fraternity or sorority.  These consultants... God bless 'em... they're the smart ones who get people to part with their money.  

Sorority Consultants = NFT artists

Grift under a different name.  

Game respects game:

[SquishMitten 10497]

The only thing about this I find shocking is that it’s only $4k. That’s basically just a semester of dues plus mandatory expenses. 

[crash_davis 23470]

1 minute ago, SquishMitten said:

The only thing about this I find shocking is that it’s only $4k. That’s basically just a semester of dues plus mandatory expenses. 

Think about how much "work" is involved. Help draft great Rush resumes. Review social media, gives pointers about what to post and what to delete. Use alumni network to get good rec letters. Tell the girl what close to wear, how to cut her hair, etc. Guide them on what and what not to say, how to act, etc at meet parties and interviews. Hold mock interviews, maybe.

That's 20-25 hours (tops) per girl. 

That's an easy $4k.

[Beau Vine 55891]

15 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Part of me thinks this is a waste of money, but I've spent more on more frivolous things, so... whatever.

Honestly, I don't see how it's any dumber than the parents I see hiring former major league pitchers to work with their fat, unathletic sons.  

[texasdago 7772]

4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Honestly, I don't see how it's any dumber than the parents I see hiring former major league pitchers to work with their fat, unathletic sons.  

Yes... baseball has become such a grift.  The whole year-round tournament ball thing for people who think their kid is the next Mike Trout.  

[crash_davis 23470]

5 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Honestly, I don't see how it's any dumber than the parents I see hiring former major league pitchers to work with their fat, unathletic sons.  

Am I a joke to you? 

[Beau Vine 55891]

CC had a scholarship offer to play football to UCLA.  He was never unathletic.

[TonyTexas 10786]

14 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

The DGs at Texas were fun.  Like if you needed a date on short notice for some sorr of event and wanted it to end well a DG was a good choice.

Sleazy DGs!!

[Blotto 24044]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

Think about how much "work" is involved. Help draft great Rush resumes. Review social media, gives pointers about what to post and what to delete. Use alumni network to get good rec letters. Tell the girl what close to wear, how to cut her hair, etc. Guide them on what and what not to say, how to act, etc at meet parties and interviews. Hold mock interviews, maybe.

That's 20-25 hours (tops) per girl. 

That's an easy $4k.

And you wanted to be a sorority sherpa....

get it together, man 

[sidis 10019]

that it is crash davis of all posters on here trying to rationalize this nonsense is pretty amusing. 

this is porterhouse/rex level dipshittery.

[RDCanecutter 26922]

2 hours ago, texasdago said:

I'm trying to wrap my minds around this... the consultants can do anything to influence the situation unless they have a network of girls inside individual sorority houses that are on the take and can influence who gets a bid.  This is such a major racket. 

I'm trusting the Italian on this.

[HRSchenker 2341]

Seems like an inordinate waste of money for something as trivial as sorority membership. Does that make me a hypocrite since I was in a fraternity? I don't know. I do know that I wouldn't spend $4,000 to join if I had to do it all over again. 

[crash_davis 23470]

12 minutes ago, sidis said:

that it is crash davis of all posters on here trying to rationalize this nonsense is pretty amusing. 

this is porterhouse/rex level dipshittery.

[texasdago 7772]

22 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

Seems like an inordinate waste of money for something as trivial as sorority membership. Does that make me a hypocrite since I was in a fraternity? I don't know. I do know that I wouldn't spend $4,000 to join if I had to do it all over again. 

This.  They spent money on us and by spending money I mean drinks and things like broomball and parties.   So stupid.  Wish I had thought of the idea, though.

[Longhornsnus 200]

What is the value proposition for wanting your daughter to be in a sorority, again? Is it solely trying to put her in the best light for a potential husband who can provide a higher probability of success/comfort?

That feels a bit...barbaric. But I'll allow it, we are but barbarians in silks styled by Italians.

[Gatorubet 30789]

2 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Think about how much "work" is involved. Help draft great Rush resumes. Review social media, gives pointers about what to post and what to delete. Use alumni network to get good rec letters. Tell the girl what close to wear, how to cut her hair, etc. Guide them on what and what not to say, how to act, etc at meet parties and interviews. Hold mock interviews, maybe.

That's 20-25 hours (tops) per girl. 

That's an easy $4k.

[Okie State 3889]

What is the value proposition for wanting your daughter to be in a sorority, again? Is it solely trying to put her in the best light for a potential husband who can provide a higher probability of success/comfort?
That feels a bit...barbaric. But I'll allow it, we are but barbarians in silks styled by Italians.

I have the same question. I don't understand the point of any of it.

[TwiceHorn 32106]

20 minutes ago, Longhornsnus said:

What is the value proposition for wanting your daughter to be in a sorority, again? Is it solely trying to put her in the best light for a potential husband who can provide a higher probability of success/comfort?

That feels a bit...barbaric. But I'll allow it, we are but barbarians in silks styled by Italians.

Mostly intangible.  Most girls that want to pledge, all their friends want to pledge, so it feels like missing out/flat peer pressure.  Their moms were probably in a sorority too.   It provides a fairly instant home and social life while also at least somewhat emphasizing academics and potentially more safety than just random house parties in [West Campus].  The housing situation can be advantageous, also. Lots of connections, hot and/or rich dudes, and sorority alumni chapters are a pretty real thing for post-college life.

[crash_davis 23470]

Being in a sorority helped my daughter land an internship with top consulting firm. Could she have gotten it without being in a sorority, maybe, but probably not. She was asked to be in a social/interview event her Freshman year (2nd week of school) because her upper classman sorority sister needed bodies in the event. The following year, the recruiter remembered her and asked her to apply to internships.

Edited July 25, 2023 by crash_davis

[Longhornsnus 200]

15 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Being in a sorority helped my daughter land an internship with top consulting firm. Could she have gotten it without being in a sorority, maybe, but probably not. She was asked to be in a social/interview event her Freshman year (2nd week of school) because her upper classman sorority sister needed bodies in the event. The following year, the recruiter remembered her and asked her to apply to internships.

That's interesting, I guess. Thanks for sharing.

[Goredho 17663]

2 minutes ago, Longhornsnus said:

That's interesting, I guess. Thanks for sharing.

With 91 posts and -45 rep, you are obviously not Phi Kappa Surly material.

[crash_davis 23470]

17 minutes ago, Longhornsnus said:

That's interesting, I guess. Thanks for sharing.

 

13 minutes ago, Goredho said:

With 91 posts and -45 rep, you are obviously not Phi Kappa Surly material.

PM Derka. He can consult (payment in Taco Bell) you in the ways of improving your Surly standing.

[Longhornsnus 200]

2 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

 

PM Derka. He can consult (payment in Taco Bell) you in the ways of improving your Surly standing.

That's it. I'm offended.

[SydneyCarton 49534]

2 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

 

PM Derka. He can consult (payment in Taco Bell) you in the ways of improving your Surly standing.

If he wants to improve his Surly standing, he'd have to literally start posting the opposite of every one of his thoughts, and maybe stop trolling. Of course, anyone else would have learned that without taking 10 or so usernames and getting banned repeatedly. 

[Brisketexan 107012]

There used to be a "Sorority thread" on another board, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.  This....is not that thread.

[Gatorubet 30789]

20 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

As an alumni of an Old Row house at Bama and with a daughter in a sorority at AU, I probably have a little more insight.

These consultants are worth it for out of state girls rushing at big Greek schools (Alabama, UGA, Auburn, Texas, TCU, LSU, Purdue, Wisconsin etc).

If your daughter is staying in state and rushing - don’t bother. The active members already know about your town, your school and their reputation.

Legacies don’t mean shit any more.

Last year my sorority had more legacies than they had spots. If they want you and you’re a legacy, that’s a bonus. But legacies get a courtesy invite to the second round and then most get cut - I’d say 50-60%.

The first round cuts are made strictly on grades. My sorority cuts anyone with below a 3.5 automatically. And the more popular houses have to make deeper cuts. It’s all done by a computer algorithm.

The biggest - and I mean BIGGEST - thing for girls going through rush is to clean up their social media and post pictures with variety and purpose and with a cohesive aesthetic- fun with friends (but no drinking and wild partying), family pictures, doing volunteer work, sports photos, pictures with their pets, doing stuff with their church etc.

And do it starting in your sophomore and junior year in high school. And go all the way to the first ever post for review. The sororities start looking at upcoming in state girls at least a year before.

And clean up comments - delete anything with cussing or any fights.

There’s a lot more but most alumni who live in the state can consult with these girls and give the same advice as these professional consultants.

If any of y’all ever have a daughter going to Bama or Auburn and are planning to rush, DM me and I’ll be happy to help.

I’ll only charge $800 lol

Old Row Gurl, it’s “alumna”😎

[RDCanecutter 26922]

4 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Old Row Gurl, it’s “alumna”😎

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Old Row Gurl, it’s “alumna”

I mean, I have a Masters degree but I’m still a gump.

[RDCanecutter 26922]

10 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I mean, I have a Masters degree but I’m still a gump.

fem. singular Gumpa. Plural: Gumpae.

Gumpus/Gumpi for the dudes.

Those advocating for non-gendered language may want to take a week off and learn Hungarian. I hear it's easy.

[Brew 3050]

10 hours ago, Okie State said:

10 hours ago, Longhornsnus said:

What is the value proposition for wanting your daughter to be in a sorority, again? Is it solely trying to put her in the best light for a potential husband who can provide a higher probability of success/comfort?
That feels a bit...barbaric. But I'll allow it, we are but barbarians in silks styled by Italians.

I have the same question. I don't understand the point of any of it.

I will say that my oldest is looking at a couple of high end out of state schools that no one she knows attends. In her mind it’s a way to start off with built in friends, be involved in something that will benefit her post undergrad, these schools have extensive Greek cultures with much better housing situations, etc. The consultant comes into play to see how many rungs up that ladder she can go. I think it’s all bullshit, but at this point with what I’m going to drop for college it doesn’t matter.

I’m much more disturbed by how tight money/admittance is for a kid with extensive involvement, high GPA, high ACT, numerous AP’s, etc. I always assumed she would have her pick of where she wanted to go with money available from most. Yeah, that isn’t the case by a long shot. That process has been a bit of kick in the nuts. 

[Rimbo 27090]

Whole thing reminds me of a book I found when we were clearing out some shit after SO and I moved in together. She had signed up with a modeling agency, and they had a guide for young girls who aspired to be models.

The contents were ... horrifying. Basically a guide on how to completely worthless you would be if you ever gained even the slightest bit of weight, among other things. It didn't explicitly tell the young readers to binge and purge, but a young, impressionable mind would definitely have the idea that those were better options after reading this.

That's what all this sorority training nonsense seems like to me. I get, say, prepping for the SAT and shit. Prepping your social media feeds properly to be in the right social club? Stephen King couldn't write a scarier nightmare.

[BearSchlong 8252]

I will say that my oldest is looking at a couple of high end out of state schools that no one she knows attends. In her mind it’s a way to start off with built in friends, be involved in something that will benefit her post undergrad, these schools have extensive Greek cultures with much better housing situations, etc. The consultant comes into play to see how many rungs up that ladder she can go. I think it’s all bullshit, but at this point with what I’m going to drop for college it doesn’t matter.
I’m much more disturbed by how tight money/admittance is for a kid with extensive involvement, high GPA, high ACT, numerous AP’s, etc. I always assumed she would have her pick of where she wanted to go with money available from most. Yeah, that isn’t the case by a long shot. That process has been a bit of kick in the nuts. 

My daughter did the same. She had to get far away from her mom. Her first year was covered by enough to offset the costs of being out of state. Plus she bartended so my out of pocket was manageable.

She lived in the sorority house her 2nd year and it was very cool, a huge mansion, a house mom who enforced decorum, and a full-service dining room with great food. All in all I was very pleased with the setup. Granted, I was appalled by what I saw at frat parties but the Kappa house was like walking into a nice country club parlor.

Even after she moved into an apartment she still took meals at the house, and they were serious about having the highest GPA on campus and participating in campus events. She had a big sis who was a positive influence and then went on to mentor others. The girls took care of their own, which is how she got jobs at decent restaurants and bars and still graduated Magna Cum Laude.

All in all I was very pleased, and though I didn't spend a dime on a consultant it didn't hurt that she was reigning Miss Tennessee which cost me quite a bit but that's a whole other story.

Tl;Dr lesson one, be attractive. Also make sure your starter wife/baby momma is a psychopath that raises overachievers. Raises the laid-back cool dad factor.

['stache 22146]

On 7/24/2023 at 6:55 PM, Deej said:

A lot of folks here don't know the rules. 

Be blonde, skinny, and pretty. Them's the rules. That'll be $2,000 (friends and family discount).

PS. I know the rules you're referring to, here the pic. OP's daughter looks like this, as do the rest of them.

[royiv 9882]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

Be blonde, skinny, and pretty. Them's the rules. That'll be $2,000 (friends and family discount).

PS. I know the rules you're referring to, here the pic. OP's daughter looks like this, as do the rest of them.

And practice the ubiquitous bent over, hands on knees squat pose. Seriously, who decided that was an attractive look?

[WhatTheBuck 28940]

4 minutes ago, royiv said:

And practice the ubiquitous bent over, hands on knees squat pose. Seriously, who decided that was an attractive look?

The guy standing behind them. 

[royiv 9882]

8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

The guy standing behind them. 

Maybe if one is a short king I guess it might be. Otherwise it just looks like a girl trying to take a shit on the side of the road.

[Beau Vine 55891]

16 minutes ago, royiv said:

And practice the ubiquitous bent over, hands on knees squat pose. Seriously, who decided that was an attractive look?

It is from behind.

[SydneyCarton 49534]

20 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Be blonde, skinny, and pretty. Them's the rules. That'll be $2,000 (friends and family discount).

PS. I know the rules you're referring to, here the pic. OP's daughter looks like this, as do the rest of them.

I bet the posts ranking the order are going to be all fucking over the place on this one. 

[Brisketexan 107012]

13 minutes ago, royiv said:

Maybe if one is a short king I guess it might be. Otherwise it just looks like a girl trying to take a shit on the side of the road.

Oh, great.  You just rang the fetish bell for probably 40% of Surly.

[Incredulity 11881]

On 7/24/2023 at 1:07 PM, TonyTexas said:

Sounds like an sound investment. Get into the right sorority, meet a scion from the right fraternity, get married, get divorced, receive a huge settlement. Winner!

ROI…

Return on Investment?

 

No, Radio on the Internet 

[jdhorn92 1599]

On 7/24/2023 at 6:26 PM, Bama Chick said:

As an alumni of an Old Row house at Bama and with a daughter in a sorority at AU, I probably have a little more insight.

These consultants are worth it for out of state girls rushing at big Greek schools (Alabama, UGA, Auburn, Texas, TCU, LSU, Purdue, Wisconsin etc).

If your daughter is staying in state and rushing - don’t bother. The active members already know about your town, your school and their reputation.

Legacies don’t mean shit any more.

Last year my sorority had more legacies than they had spots. If they want you and you’re a legacy, that’s a bonus. But legacies get a courtesy invite to the second round and then most get cut - I’d say 50-60%.

The first round cuts are made strictly on grades. My sorority cuts anyone with below a 3.5 automatically. And the more popular houses have to make deeper cuts. It’s all done by a computer algorithm.

The biggest - and I mean BIGGEST - thing for girls going through rush is to clean up their social media and post pictures with variety and purpose and with a cohesive aesthetic- fun with friends (but no drinking and wild partying), family pictures, doing volunteer work, sports photos, pictures with their pets, doing stuff with their church etc.

And do it starting in your sophomore and junior year in high school. And go all the way to the first ever post for review. The sororities start looking at upcoming in state girls at least a year before.

And clean up comments - delete anything with cussing or any fights.

There’s a lot more but most alumni who live in the state can consult with these girls and give the same advice as these professional consultants.

If any of y’all ever have a daughter going to Bama or Auburn and are planning to rush, DM me and I’ll be happy to help.

I’ll only charge $800 lol

Bama Chick gets it, this is spot on imo.  I have a daughter at AU, pledged last year and is heading back to Auburn for rush next week. According to her, grades were a weed out for sure, I  asked if she was going to look after one of her incoming freshman buddies from our town, but her first comment was she doesnt have the scores/grades to get into her house.  So fwiw , grades, social media and charity work through HS are super important.  All in all, a very positive experience for her.  I was in a frat at Texas and still hang out/communicate with 15-20 guys ive known since fall '88 and we're pushing mid-50s now. 

 

 

 

[crash_davis 23470]

42 minutes ago, royiv said:

And practice the ubiquitous bent over, hands on knees squat pose. Seriously, who decided that was an attractive look?

Bro, do you even Sorority Squat?

https://www.greeku.com/blogs/news/how-to-perfect-the-sorority-squat