2023 Fall Camp Thread of Dominance

[LateAughtsHorn 588]

12 hours ago, sidis said:

  but it is a good example of a game that when i imagine a team without bijan robinson playing savior for the good guys, i have concerns which was my original point.

 

and sorry to all the people on here that don't enjoy football discussions.  i am certain there are some threads where you guys can trade some memes and twitter embeds about how we are unbeatable this year and shit.  i will post this again to satisfy your koolaid needs.

It feels like you're looking at this whole thing in a vaccum. You seem to be basing your entire argument for us sucking this year on Quinn being raw as a true freshman and one player (Bijan) leaving. 

 

I love Bijan, but as amazing as he is, an elite rb is a luxury, not a necessity. I'll take a better overall offensive unit (OL, QB, WR) over any single rb, even one as good as Bijan. 

But if just saying we suck in 2023 because one player left and our young qb struggled is "real football discussion" to you, then continue on. 

 

[Atticus 3,973]

We relied on, and were burned by, multiple players who are no longer playing here this year. Their replacements all represent higher ceilings and, if you believe the reports, current improvements too. 

Terrence Brooks looked amazing for most of the back end of the season. Now he's even better. Manny Muhammad could supplant Watts by season's end. Anthony Cook had some positive moments, but he wasn't great back there, Kitan Crawford was worse. Secondary is significantly improved. Linebacker play should be more than fine, even with DMo's departure. Edge should be an improvement with Ovie gone and Sorrell taking another step forward. Interior DL will hopefully remain as stout.

WR corps is significantly improved. We were relying on two less than healthy guys for most of the year. Worthy was getting double and triple teamed at times. They can't do that anymore now that we brought Mitchell in and Neyor is back from injury. Sanders is back and better. The OL should be significantly improved and will continue to improve as Banks and Campbell get more snaps. Hopefully Neto can show enough in the first few games to take over for Conner earlier in the season. 

Improved OL play and greater WR threats should make things easier for the RBs as well. Brooks is more than capable of popping a big gain with his contact balance. CJ Baxter can hopefully pass protect well enough to spell him as much as he needs. TE is fine with JT Sanders and Helm would be a reliable chain mover if needed.

Quinn is focused and more engaged for his season long job interview. He looks fantastic and consistent. I'm curious to see how his on-field demeanor has improved. Big time redemption opportunity for him and Sark. Gotta stay healthy though.

Other than RB, we've pretty much improved across the board. We have staff continuity, and have filled in key gaps other than Edge.

No more excuses, this is the year to remind everyone who we fucking are.

Edited August 26, 2023 by Atticus

[46andtoo 11]

49 minutes ago, Atticus said:

We relied on, and were burned by, multiple players who are no longer playing here this year. Their replacements all represent higher ceilings and, if you believe the reports, current improvements too...

First off I'll be the first to admit that prediction is an inexact and oftentimes fruitless art. If it has any utility outside of placing wagers, it is in the setting of expectations. 

In terms of the players lost versus their replacements and believing practice reports, my experience is practice reports are grain of salt types of things. High ceilings are real and can be good guide, but it's difficult to predict when a player is ready to maximize. There have many players drafted as upperclassman that played as freshman and sophomores while being real liabilities on the field. 

IMO.. Brooks never looked amazing, which I'd call an elite college FB player. I would say he flashed upper tier ability at times and looked stickier in coverage than Jamison. It does appear that Texas has 4 corners who can give starter level reps, which should be a boost to the secondary. Catalon also offers the potential for a big upgrade at safety, pending health and whatnot. 

The Edge position's most concerning element is the weakside. Ovie was horrific at pass rush, but turned into a reasonable edge setter. That's the biggest concern with Burke or whoever plays that position. Replacing DMO with Gbenda is also a potentially big drop off, even with DMO not playing great tactically at times. 

Agreed on WR and TE, nothing really to fret about there.

Assuming the oline becomes good with one more year of development is a big stretch imo. Connor and Majors were two of the worse run blockers in the conference last year. Is it possible they improve, sure. Should we expect it, imo not sure. Even if they improve, how much? Is Campbell at RG the upgrade we expect as a true sophomore? The unit overall was pretty good at pass blocking, which is Majors strength at center. The tackles make this a bit easier to manage. Biggest area of concern is run blocking, which many have hit on here. 

Good bet Ewer's improves, especially given the targets he has and an elite left tackle. Does he become a good college QB or elite? Based on what I saw last season, I believe good is more likely. 

IMO... the rosy outlook of we've improved every area is a little too rosy. This team should have a really good passing offense, but will the running game be good enough for the offense to function against good defenses? The passing defense might improve, but can Texas actually sack the qb and produce turnovers? Can they get off the field on 3rd and 4th down? Will the run defense hold up, with the weakside edge being potentially weaker? The point is this team has unknowns, so do all the other teams in the conference. They don't have enough knowns for me to feel as confident as most of the fanbase appears to feel.

Edited August 26, 2023 by 46andtoo

[BurntOrange&White 39,934]

^ this guy is a pussy 

[Codaxx 5,750]

17 hours ago, Gucci_Suit said:

I don’t remember exactly when it was because I was drunk and cold, but I watched JT drop a pass that essentially hit him in the dick. There was nobody between him and the end zone. 

I love our dudes, and I especially love the  top level pressure that they are putting on themselves this year, but there were a fuck ton of inexcusable drops last year that were at crucial points that changed games.  Can’t happen again. 
 

Edit: everybody has to be better. To win it all, everything has to work. Everything. 

I think it is best to never mention that TCU game again. Terrible offensive performance from everyone involved. Bad QB play, a plethora of dropped passes, incompetent blocking, poor offensive plan, bad play calling, etc 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13,101]

Who brought the wet blanket?

[LTtxfan 49,199]

10 minutes ago, 46andtoo said:

First off I'll be the first to admit that prediction is an inexact and oftentimes fruitless art. If it has any utility outside of placing wagers, it is in the setting of expectations. 

In terms of the players lost versus their replacements and believing practice reports, my experience is practice reports are grain of salt types of things. High ceilings are real and can be good guide, but it's difficult to predict when a player is ready to maximize. There have many players drafted as upperclassman that played as freshman and sophomores while being real liabilities on the field. 

IMO.. Brooks never looked amazing, which I'd call an elite college FB player. I would say he flashed upper tier ability at times and looked stickier in coverage than Jamison. It does appear that Texas has 4 corners who can give starter level reps, which should be a boost to the secondary. Catalon also offers the potential for a big upgrade at safety, pending health and whatnot. 

The Edge position's most concerning element is the weakside. Ovie was horrific at pass rush, but turned into a reasonable edge setter. That's the biggest concern with Burke or whoever plays that position. Replacing DMO with Gbenda is also a potentially big drop off, even with DMO not playing great tactically at times. 

Agreed on WR and TE, nothing really to fret about there.

Assuming the oline becomes good with one more year of development is a big stretch imo. Connor and Majors were two of the worse run blockers in the conference last year. Is it possible they improve, sure. Should we expect it, imo not sure. Even if they improve, how much? Is Campbell at RG the upgrade we expect as a true sophomore? The unit overall was pretty good at pass blocking, which is Majors strength at center. The tackles make this a bit easier to manage. Biggest area of concern is run blocking, which many have hit on here. 

Good bet Ewer's improves, especially given the targets he has and an elite left tackle. Does he become a good college QB or elite? Based on what I saw last season, I believe good is more likely. 

IMO... the rosy outlook of we've improved every area is a little too rosy. This team should have a really good passing offense, but will the running game be good enough for the offense to function against good defenses? The passing defense might improve, but can Texas actually sack the qb and produce turnovers? Can they get off the field on 3rd and 4th down? Will the run defense hold up, with the weakside edge being potentially weaker? The point is this team as unknowns, so do all the other teams in the conference. They don't have enough knowns for me to feel as confident as most of the fanbase appears to feel.

Depth is much improved in most spots.  Texas has a real chance to be dominant on Special Teams.

Also the secondary has potential to be one of the best in years for Horns...

[Park Gothic 5,042]

1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I think it is best to never mention that TCU game again. Terrible offensive performance from everyone involved. Bad QB play, a plethora of dropped passes, incompetent blocking, poor offensive plan, bad play calling, etc 

Surly’s 2nd favorite pastime, right after punching itself in the dick, is rehashing horribly painful losses from past seasons. 

So I imagine we will get to reconsider the TCU game 100 different times from 100 different angles in the coming years. 

it would be best to never mention that game again. But you know we can’t help ourselves. 

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,753]

6 hours ago, LateAughtsHorn said:

It feels like you're looking at this whole thing in a vaccum. You seem to be basing your entire argument for us sucking this year on Quinn being raw as a true freshman and one player (Bijan) leaving. 

 

I love Bijan, but as amazing as he is, an elite rb is a luxury, not a necessity. I'll take a better overall offensive unit (OL, QB, WR) over any single rb, even one as good as Bijan. 

But if just saying we suck in 2023 because one player left and our young qb struggled is "real football discussion" to you, then continue on. 

 

The poster you quoted never said we are going to suck. That’s just a stupid football board straw man. Pointing out legitimate areas of concern while 90% of this board does their usual August swim in an ocean of practice report koolaid does not equate to “sucking”. 

[Codaxx 5,750]

14 minutes ago, 46andtoo said:

First off I'll be the first to admit that prediction is an inexact and oftentimes fruitless art. If it has any utility outside of placing wagers, it is in the setting of expectations. 

In terms of the players lost versus their replacements and believing practice reports, my experience is practice reports are grain of salt types of things. High ceilings are real and can be good guide, but it's difficult to predict when a player is ready to maximize. There have many players drafted as upperclassman that played as freshman and sophomores while being real liabilities on the field. 

IMO.. Brooks never looked amazing, which I'd call an elite college FB player. I would say he flashed upper tier ability at times and looked stickier in coverage than Jamison. It does appear that Texas has 4 corners who can give starter level reps, which should be a boost to the secondary. Catalon also offers the potential for a big upgrade at safety, pending health and whatnot. 

The Edge position's most concerning element is the weakside. Ovie was horrific at pass rush, but turned into a reasonable edge setter. That's the biggest concern with Burke or whoever plays that position. Replacing DMO with Gbenda is also a potentially big drop off, even with DMO not playing great tactically at times. 

Agreed on WR and TE, nothing really to fret about there.

Assuming the oline becomes good with one more year of development is a big stretch imo. Connor and Majors were two of the worse run blockers in the conference last year. Is it possible they improve, sure. Should we expect it, imo not sure. Even if they improve, how much? Is Campbell at RG the upgrade we expect as a true sophomore? The unit overall was pretty good at pass blocking, which is Majors strength at center. The tackles make this a bit easier to manage. Biggest area of concern is run blocking, which many have hit on here. 

Good bet Ewer's improves, especially given the targets he has and an elite left tackle. Does he become a good college QB or elite? Based on what I saw last season, I believe good is more likely. 

IMO... the rosy outlook of we've improved every area is a little too rosy. This team should have a really good passing offense, but will the running game be good enough for the offense to function against good defenses? The passing defense might improve, but can Texas actually sack the qb and produce turnovers? Can they get off the field on 3rd and 4th down? Will the run defense hold up, with the weakside edge being potentially weaker? The point is this team has unknowns, so do all the other teams in the conference. They don't have enough knowns for me to feel as confident as most of the fanbase appears to feel.

There is a lot here, but I’ll keep it brief. I think depth is the biggest change and reason for optimism. Buck position is a question, but there are answers. Ovie was solid vs the run, but non-existent as a pass rusher. That isn’t hard to replicate. Finkley can probably fill that role with little downgrade. You also have the big package that PK has used. Burke or other Bucks represent the upside. I think CB is in a better situation, but similar. They have 4 CBs that have starter worthy potential. They also bring different traits. Both situations give the staff flexibility to mix and match based on opponents. 
 

OL will be better this year, baring injury. I think the question there is will the OL be better by the Bama game or will it take a month or 2 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13,101]

5 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

The poster you quoted never said we are going to suck. That’s just a stupid football board straw man. Pointing out legitimate areas of concern while 90% of this board does their usual August swim in an ocean of practice report koolaid does not equate to “sucking”. 

Everyone is drunk on koolaid. Nobody likes the guy who shows up late and sober to the party, asking them to turn the music down.

[DanTheHorn 4,925]

31 minutes ago, 46andtoo said:

First off I'll be the first to admit that prediction is an inexact and oftentimes fruitless art. If it has any utility outside of placing wagers, it is in the setting of expectations. 

In terms of the players lost versus their replacements and believing practice reports, my experience is practice reports are grain of salt types of things. High ceilings are real and can be good guide, but it's difficult to predict when a player is ready to maximize. There have many players drafted as upperclassman that played as freshman and sophomores while being real liabilities on the field. 

IMO.. Brooks never looked amazing, which I'd call an elite college FB player. I would say he flashed upper tier ability at times and looked stickier in coverage than Jamison. It does appear that Texas has 4 corners who can give starter level reps, which should be a boost to the secondary. Catalon also offers the potential for a big upgrade at safety, pending health and whatnot. 

The Edge position's most concerning element is the weakside. Ovie was horrific at pass rush, but turned into a reasonable edge setter. That's the biggest concern with Burke or whoever plays that position. Replacing DMO with Gbenda is also a potentially big drop off, even with DMO not playing great tactically at times. 

Agreed on WR and TE, nothing really to fret about there.

Assuming the oline becomes good with one more year of development is a big stretch imo. Connor and Majors were two of the worse run blockers in the conference last year. Is it possible they improve, sure. Should we expect it, imo not sure. Even if they improve, how much? Is Campbell at RG the upgrade we expect as a true sophomore? The unit overall was pretty good at pass blocking, which is Majors strength at center. The tackles make this a bit easier to manage. Biggest area of concern is run blocking, which many have hit on here. 

Good bet Ewer's improves, especially given the targets he has and an elite left tackle. Does he become a good college QB or elite? Based on what I saw last season, I believe good is more likely. 

IMO... the rosy outlook of we've improved every area is a little too rosy. This team should have a really good passing offense, but will the running game be good enough for the offense to function against good defenses? The passing defense might improve, but can Texas actually sack the qb and produce turnovers? Can they get off the field on 3rd and 4th down? Will the run defense hold up, with the weakside edge being potentially weaker? The point is this team has unknowns, so do all the other teams in the conference. They don't have enough knowns for me to feel as confident as most of the fanbase appears to feel.

Wow we still have someone that thinks that the main dependency as to whether this team can achieve its goals is based on the talent on campus and their development. Aside from injury there is only one thing that will cause this team to fail and that is Steve Sarkisian's inability to rise up to the challenge and not get outcoached during a game. Sarkisian always starts of with a great plan since he has had the chance to sit at his desk and analyze it for hours but his main bingo card line is "The Film" because he sure as hell can't see what coaches are doing to him with adjustments during a game and must look at the film after getting outcoached.

Edited August 26, 2023 by DanTheHorn

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,753]

1 minute ago, DanTheHorn said:

Wow we still have someone that thinks that the main dependency as to weather this team can achieve its goals is based on the talent on campus and their development. Aside from injury there is only one thing that will cause this team to fail and that is Steve Sarkisian's inability to rise up to the challenge and not get outcoached during a game. Sarkisian always starts of with a great plan since he has had the chance to sit at his desk and analyze it for hours but his main bingo card line is "The Film" because he sure as hell can't see what coaches are doing to him with adjustments during a game and must look at the film after getting outcoached.

It’s certainly hot in Texas, but I doubt weather will be a significant factor. 

[DanTheHorn 4,925]

1 minute ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

It’s certainly hot in Texas, but I doubt weather will be a significant factor. 

Dammit you pointed out before I caught it and edited while you were probably responding.

[jdhorn92 1,552]

11 hours ago, TheBryMan81 said:

I went to the Texas Bowl in Houston a few years back when Michael Dickson single handedly kicked Mizzou's ass. The crowd definitely chanted SEC SEC SEC that day, but it was in more of a "They s'posed to be SEC" kind of way

There was a notable SEC SEC SEC at the end of the Sugar Bowl where kicked the shit out of Georgia.

[Had Enough 2,083]

A couple things, and BO&W, I’m on board with the high expectations that you share. We should kick lots of ass.

At the risk of pissing HenryJames off I’m going to reference PFF. I do feel comfortable with their stats. A little uncertain on the gradings.

Ovie versus Sorrell. Ovie had more pressures, in total and on a per rush basis. He graded higher. Sorrell had more sacks. Ovie was allowed to walk for reason(s). I think both were solid. Overall, I’m not sure Ovie wasn’t the better player, but he’s closer to his upside than Sorrell. Ovie was good enough to keep around unless the coaches felt his replacement can match or exceed his performance. That should give us a good level of comfort for the baseline. The edge took a step up last year. Time for another step.

Brooks versus Jamison. In pass D Jamison graded way higher than Brooks. I was thinking Brooks blew the coverage versus TCU. Pretty sure he was beaten deep versus UW although incomplete. Brooks didn’t make many plays. I’ve read here that Brooks basically took over. Yet versus UW and BU, Jamison played over 100 snaps with Brooks at around 35. Yeah Jamison didn’t get drafted, but he’s been projected to make the 49ers roster. He’s not shitty. And Brooks is young with lots of his career left. We were hurt when Jamison was not available for all of Bama.

[Park Gothic 5,042]

19 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

Dammit you pointed out before I caught it and edited while you were probably responding.

[Vito Andolini 9,126]

1 minute ago, Park Gothic said:

JanTheHorn! 

[6th Street 6,412]

However many wins you think Texas should have this year, go ahead and discount it by 2 due to Sark.

[TommyGufano 6,021]

1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

However many wins you think Texas should have this year, go ahead and discount it by 2 due to Sark.

Whatever prognostications 6th Street offers, go ahead and undo them due to 6th Street

[texifornia 56,977]

Doomed

 

[TotallyLegit 3,053]

Texas is either making the playoffs or losing to multiple teams we shouldn't lose to in which OL and EDGE suck while we get fucked over by big 12 refs, which will be the source of many hilariously bad posts on here

Edited August 26, 2023 by TotallyLegit

[nycHorn 3,020]

Doomed
 

[texifornia 56,977]

Also, hmmmmmm

 

[Atticus 3,973]

48 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

A couple things, and BO&W, I’m on board with the high expectations that you share. We should kick lots of ass.

At the risk of pissing HenryJames off I’m going to reference PFF. I do feel comfortable with their stats. A little uncertain on the gradings.

Ovie versus Sorrell. Ovie had more pressures, in total and on a per rush basis. He graded higher. Sorrell had more sacks. Ovie was allowed to walk for reason(s). I think both were solid. Overall, I’m not sure Ovie wasn’t the better player, but he’s closer to his upside than Sorrell. Ovie was good enough to keep around unless the coaches felt his replacement can match or exceed his performance. That should give us a good level of comfort for the baseline. The edge took a step up last year. Time for another step.

Brooks versus Jamison. In pass D Jamison graded way higher than Brooks. I was thinking Brooks blew the coverage versus TCU. Pretty sure he was beaten deep versus UW although incomplete. Brooks didn’t make many plays. I’ve read here that Brooks basically took over. Yet versus UW and BU, Jamison played over 100 snaps with Brooks at around 35. Yeah Jamison didn’t get drafted, but he’s been projected to make the 49ers roster. He’s not shitty. And Brooks is young with lots of his career left. We were hurt when Jamison was not available for all of Bama.

Jamison wasn’t shitty, but he’s short, short armed, and undisciplined. Brooks was stickier and provided better run support (still room for improvement there). All as a true freshman.

He’s one of the upside improvements that has actually shown something on the field. 
 

I hope all of our former horns have long and successful NFL careers, even if they didn’t play the best while on the team. 

[thunderlounge 7,852]

1 hour ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Everyone is drunk on koolaid. Nobody likes the guy who shows up late and sober to the party, asking them to turn the music down.

 

[6th Street 6,412]

[LateAughtsHorn 588]

1 hour ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

The poster you quoted never said we are going to suck. That’s just a stupid football board straw man. Pointing out legitimate areas of concern while 90% of this board does their usual August swim in an ocean of practice report koolaid does not equate to “sucking”. 

I still fail to see how being optimistic about the roster means one is swimming in Kool Aid. You accused me of making a strawman argument and then make the same strawman argument the original poster was making. 

Edited August 26, 2023 by LateAughtsHorn

[LateAughtsHorn 588]

1 hour ago, DanTheHorn said:

Wow we still have someone that thinks that the main dependency as to whether this team can achieve its goals is based on the talent on campus and their development. Aside from injury there is only one thing that will cause this team to fail and that is Steve Sarkisian's inability to rise up to the challenge and not get outcoached during a game. Sarkisian always starts of with a great plan since he has had the chance to sit at his desk and analyze it for hours but his main bingo card line is "The Film" because he sure as hell can't see what coaches are doing to him with adjustments during a game and must look at the film after getting outcoached.

Larry Coker, Ed Orgeron, and Jimbo Fisher are all inferior football minds to Sark, imo. If you have a roster that's truly stacked with talent, it masks a lot of coaching problems at the college level. 

I'm hoping the new age of special assistants helps allow Sark to shore up his blind spots. 

Edited August 26, 2023 by LateAughtsHorn

[DanTheHorn 4,925]

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,753]

1 minute ago, DanTheHorn said:

[6th Street 6,412]

3 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

[billfromlaketravis 11,489]

49 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Doomed

 

Desmond’s pick is definitely concerning. 

[Waterboarder 343]

2 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

[billfromlaketravis 11,489]

42 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Also, hmmmmmm

 

What was the context for not picking Georgia?

[Vertigo 20,290]

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

Doomed

 

[Vertigo 20,290]

17 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

[DanTheHorn 4,925]

14 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Yea when the rest saw his 2023 prediction they mentioned him going there again after last year.

[Hookem2147 21,324]

36 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

[Fud 9,552]

19 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

What was the context for not picking Georgia?

Bama is a zag when you expect everyone else to pick Georgia. But when your partners all also pick Bama, you all just look like idiots

[gmr548 16,580]

This is a more convincing argument that this team is going 8-4 than I could ever give

[sidis 9,828]

9 hours ago, LateAughtsHorn said:

Because understanding that a Freshman quarterback that hadn't seen live action in two years can actually mature means we think the team is unbeatable? Quinn was a mess at times last year, but wtf were you expecting? 

 

8 hours ago, LateAughtsHorn said:

It feels like you're looking at this whole thing in a vaccum. You seem to be basing your entire argument for us sucking this year on Quinn being raw as a true freshman and one player (Bijan) leaving. 

 

I love Bijan, but as amazing as he is, an elite rb is a luxury, not a necessity. I'll take a better overall offensive unit (OL, QB, WR) over any single rb, even one as good as Bijan. 

But if just saying we suck in 2023 because one player left and our young qb struggled is "real football discussion" to you, then continue on. 

 

you seem to either a) be discussing this with someone else in your head you have constructed; or b) failed to consider the contextual basis of the conversation to which i was participating.  the discussion from a couple of pages back was whether or not a ten win season was a reasonable expectation for a floor for the upcoming season.  a number of posters - who apparently believe that posting useless bravado on this message board sufficiently conveys the toughness and vigor of their character - stated that anything less then said 10 win floor was a ridiculous expectation for the upcoming season.

at no point did i say that we would "suck" this year.  you are mischaracterizing what i said in order to project it as an extreme position.  i don't know what your motivation for such a thing would be and i suppose it does not matter.  but there is a significant couloir between saying that we will suck and saying that the typical preseason stupidity from the usual suspects of koolaid doused idiots (who will also be the ones who act hysterically shocked when we drop games like tech and okie state last year) is not based on anything tangible besides hope and ignores some key, specific variables at plays such as losing a game changing running back.

quinn was not a true freshman.  and while i hope he makes a great leap forward from his redshirt freshman year to his sophomore year, the presumption that he will do so that seems to be so popular here is purely speculative based on him finally grooming himself and losing the white trash dildo look.  that's a joke by the way in case you need it spelled out.  my speculation is not based only on bijan and quinn, it's on the offensive line showing no ability to dominate in run blocking, a few games of really poor pass blocking (like the baylor game discussed ad nauseam above), the defensive line's inability to convert pressures into sacks, the defensive backfield's struggles in coverage, and our head coach's long career of underperforming and consistently dropping games he shouldn't...and a consistent inability to make adjustments in-game after the first quarter.

i agree with you that i will take an elite line, qb, and receiver group than an elite rb.  i would take an elite oline over all of those other ones combined.  you are presuming we have those things.  i'm simply not yet based on the evidence.  what i do know is that we did lose an elite rb and a really good rb who both made a difference quite a bit last year.  hopefully those other units do become elite and it mitigates the impact of losing them.  also hoping that some of the super talented guys from the last two recruiting classes can convert it to play on the field.  an anthony hill or a derek williams coming in for and making major impact right away can change shit really fast.

but ultimately, i can't agree that anything fewer than ten wins is an unreasonable expectation for this team. until games like at tcu, at iowa state, at houston, etc... can become presumed wins like they were from 01-09, that's not really sensible.  and i have no reason to believe they are just yet.

[sidis 9,828]

2 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

The poster you quoted never said we are going to suck. That’s just a stupid football board straw man. Pointing out legitimate areas of concern while 90% of this board does their usual August swim in an ocean of practice report koolaid does not equate to “sucking”. 

so refreshing to encounter people with reading comprehension on the football board.

[cafe society 2,871]

ATM dropped a bag for Desmond to commit to us.  Fuckers.

[Hagbard Celine 10,867]

2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

^ this guy is a pussy 

i repped him

no drops, no wounded ducks, no missed chip shots and we are contending

pass rush shows up and we are dangerous

until we see that we're still post-mack

/parcells

[thepop 4,409]

1 hour ago, 6th Street said:

I gotta say, as someone who is approaching Sarks age when he started as HC, I totally understand his failures. 

[Hagbard Celine 10,867]

also, the fuckery is going to make grant teaff smile (he's still alive)

we would do well to simply negotiate with the league to put 2 points on the board for the opponent before every league kickoff and bring in out-of-conference refs

[Texas Flood 1,356]

1 hour ago, DanTheHorn said:

[ousux 5,597]

What was the context for not picking Georgia?

A few too many blows to the head during his playing days?

It's Desmond bro...same dude that picked aggy to win it all last year.

[Hagbard Celine 10,867]

2 hours ago, 6th Street said:

However many wins you think Texas should have this year, go ahead and discount it by 2 due to Sark.

-1 sark

-1 fuckery

-1 curse of mack

+1 IF a pass rush emerges

+1 no drops

+1 no ducks

+1 no missed chip shots