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Found it:

On 12/16/2021 at 3:27 PM, Getafix said:

 

(The spoiler tags aren't showing up ... is that just for me??)

Cam Williams' Rating

Gabe Brooks

I know several people have wondered why we are lower on him than others. As far as who should get the ire, that's me. I'm the one making the call here, since he's a three-star guy in Texas.

Main reasons he's lower here than other outlets: he was 391 pounds in the spring. His testing is a concern and reflects in what we see on the field in what needs to improve. He has not cracked 5.1 in the shuttle and he's in the 8.9 range in the L drill. And while the 40 is not really much of a concern for linemen, IMO, he has not eclipsed the 6.0 threshold.

We don't have a verified arm measurement, but we do know the wingspan is 6-11. That's +6 relative to height. How much of that is body width? At +6, I tend to give somebody the benefit of the doubt. The basketball participation is good. Know folks like seeing him dunk in warmups, but a 6-5 18-year-old with a near-7-foot wingspan should be able to dunk in warmups, honestly.

I've talked with Mike about him at length. We think he's anywhere from 350-370 right now. He needs to drop more weight. His tape is solid but it obviously does not stand up to our highly-rated guys of similar size, such as Kiyaunta Goodwin or Tegra Tshabola. He is certainly a high-floor prospect, but his ceiling is a big question mark.

In these situations, my goal is always to follow the process/philosophy, which is trust the data. As a rankings council we are always working to improve that, and with 10 people in the room, that's a lot of cooks in the kitchen, and individuals naturally have a different perspective and personal eval process.

I think the situations where you pick and choose like "I know the data is not good, but I really like this guy" are where you get in trouble. Will there be cases where the five-year trajectory winds up proving you wrong? Of course. But my goal is to have a philosophy -- that is NFL Draft-oriented, of course -- and follow it.

 

 

 

On 12/16/2021 at 3:45 PM, Hiphopopotamos said:

Kid had commitable offers from Bedenbaugh and Cristobal but noted OL guru (checks notes) 'Gabe Brooks' doesn't like his shuttle and 3 cone.  What.  The.  Fuck.

Also that shit about 'should be able to dunk' is such bullshit.  Is Gabe under 5'10" - he seems like a little man. 

 

On 12/16/2021 at 3:48 PM, Huckleberry said:

Holy fucking shit, you glossed right over the part where he said he wasn't sure how much credit Williams should get for his wingspan because he's fat. GABE BROOKS THINKS HIS WINGSPAN MIGHT SHRINK IF HE LOSES WEIGHT.

Williams must have the fattest fucking fingertips in history.

 

On 12/16/2021 at 4:03 PM, Bevo said:

Is that what he said? I must have glossed over that part because I didn't know what the hell he was talking about. I did catch the part where he said he was to blame then he consulted with 10 people in the room and that was the system and then he said he spoke to Mike at length.

 

On 12/16/2021 at 4:06 PM, Huckleberry said:

What I think he was actually trying to say is that it might be more shoulder width than arm length with Williams, but it was hilarious to me right after he was talking about Williams's weight. Also, it would be news to me that it's a bad thing to have really broad shoulders as an offensive lineman. His wingspan is his wingspan. That shit is good, Brooks trying to downplay it was stupid.

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Had a buddy at a practice recently.  Nothing earth shattering here, so take it for what it's worth.  He didn't recall any first team drop.  There may have been some, but none that came to mind. 

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A guy that played for years in the NFL was at practice yesterday. His takeaway was that if this team isn’t a playoff contender and conference winner, it took effort to fuck it up on gameday. 

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You know who we haven't heard a peep about who I was expecting the usual 9.95 hype for......Kitan Crawford. 

There was a time 2 years ago when the 9.95ers tried to say he was the best DB in the program long term.

If he hasn't been passed up already by Derek Williams, it will happen shortly. 

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26 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Gabe Brooks. I may have slightly embellished my interpretation for comedic effect but it was based on a terribly written point. I mean it was either a terribly written point or he actually believes what I said.

I can't find my actual post but did find this accurate summary:

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God that was so good. 

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God that was so good. 

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God that was so good. 

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Weird that I’ve never seen it before yesterday. 

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That’s right Ice Man. I am dangerous. 

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Few practice notes from today via IT

-Was told Arch Manning continued his strong fall camp tonight. Climbed the pocket and threw a bomb to Isaiah Neyor over the outstretched arms of Malik Muhammad. Muhammad had very good coverage, but ball placement was tremendous.

-Manning also threw a TD on slant to Jordan Whittington over outstretched arms of Liona Lefau, who was said to have very good coverage. 

-Hearing Austin Jordan and Cedric Baxter Jr. may have been limited in the practice. We will try to run down more on that.

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Few practice notes from today via IT

-Was told Arch Manning continued his strong fall camp tonight. Climbed the pocket and threw a bomb to Isaiah Neyor over the outstretched arms of Malik Muhammad. Muhammad had very good coverage, but ball placement was tremendous.

-Manning also threw a TD on slant to Jordan Whittington over outstretched arms of Liona Lefau, who was said to have very good coverage. 

-Hearing Austin Jordan and Cedric Baxter Jr. may have been limited in the practice. We will try to run down more on that.

They edited the post and took out the part about Baxter being limited. 

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Few practice notes from today via IT

-Was told Arch Manning continued his strong fall camp tonight. Climbed the pocket and threw a bomb to Isaiah Neyor over the outstretched arms of Malik Muhammad. Muhammad had very good coverage, but ball placement was tremendous.

-Manning also threw a TD on slant to Jordan Whittington over outstretched arms of Liona Lefau, who was said to have very good coverage. 

-Hearing Austin Jordan and Cedric Baxter Jr. may have been limited in the practice. We will try to run down more on that.

But Mike Farrell and fat fuck told me Arch was heading to the portal. I’m so confused. 

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We need to protect Arch’s Appendices

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

How will Arch handle the heat during the 1st game next year that will be or may not be the hottest someone can remember from past games?

Certainly won’t be hotter than it was in Charleston yesterday 115 Heat index. 

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10 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

I’m honestly tired of shutting the fuck up

THIS IS THE FOOTBALL BOARD.

A THREAD ABOUT THE 2023 TEXAS LONGHORNS FALL CAMP ISN'T THE PLACE FOR A POLITICAL CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST PLACE, MUCH LESS THE PLACE FOR A "I AM TIRED OF BEING QUIET" DISCUSSION.

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THIS IS THE FOOTBALL BOARD.

A THREAD ABOUT THE 2023 TEXAS LONGHORNS FALL CAMP ISN'T THE PLACE FOR A POLITICAL CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST PLACE, MUCH LESS THE PLACE FOR A "I AM TIRED OF BEING QUIET" DISCUSSION.

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Just now, CashMcCoy said:

Someone just asked the IT livestream if we might see an 18 wheeler package with Maalik. The next question was about if it is realistic that Texas reaches out to Demas after the season. Society is doomed.

The funny part of the 18 wheeler question is because we all know it was asked because Maalik is a big black dude.

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The Kool Aid is extra sweet this year. Watched the CBS inside college football show and Danny Kanell and Brian Jones both picked Texas in the playoff as 4th seed playing against Georgia.  
 

Aaron Taylor did not. 
 

Also of note Taylor and Kanell both picked Aggies as surprise SEC West winner. Wtf. 

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The Kool Aid is extra sweet this year. Watched the CBS inside college football show and Danny Kanell and Brian Jones both picked Texas in the playoff as 4th seed playing against Georgia.  
 

Aaron Taylor did not. 
 

Also of note Taylor and Kanell both picked Aggies as surprise SEC West winner. Wtf. 

based on AP Poll A&M is the 4th best team

...in their own division

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good news though, SEC writers think they are the 3rd best team...in their own division. and that would be 4th if some loon didn't throw A&M a 1st place vote lol

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based on AP Poll A&M is the 4th best team

...in their own division

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good news though, SEC writers think they are the 3rd best team...in their own division. and that would be 4th if some loon didn't throw A&M a 1st place vote lol

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Is Liucci considered a “SEC writer”?

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