2023 Fall Camp Thread of Dominance

[Herpa Derpa 6316]

First 5 years as a P5 coach:

6-5-1 (L - Independence)

6-6 (L - Sun)

7-5 (L - Aloha)

6-6 No Bowl

9-2 Left before bowl win.

 

That guy went on to have a pretty decent rest of career at the next two P5s that had better resources and recruiting draw than the first stop. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Just keep building the machine. Personally, I'm more than willing to endure a few seasons of near miss heartbreak if the climb eventually reaches the pinnacle. Time will tell the tale.

[Mikey4 2484]

29 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Yes, I think so. The roster he inherited was not his fault. The injuries to an already thin roster were not his fault. If you look at the things he was responsible for -- recruiting, developing, and retaining talent, and winning the winnable games -- he has done well. I wouldn't say perfect, but well.

[oldhorn2 438]

9 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

No shit. Tommy Tuberville and Gene Chizic and Ed Orgeron have won national championships. You can't convince me that those men are such masterful field generals/tacticians.

My fav one NC coach is Jimbo

[Herbie Hancock 7452]

Goddamn you stupid fucks could give an aspirin a headache. Holy fuck what a goddamn beating

[Reynolds Woodcock 5064]

26 minutes ago, Mikey4 said:

Yes, I think so. The roster he inherited was not his fault. The injuries to an already thin roster were not his fault. If you look at the things he was responsible for -- recruiting, developing, and retaining talent, and winning the winnable games -- he has done well. I wouldn't say perfect, but well.

If you watched the Oklahoma St and TCU games last year and thought, this head coach is doing well in all aspects of head coaching, I’m not sure what to say. But he’s done an incredible job of accumulating talent, no doubt about that. 

[Mikey4 2484]

4 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

If you watched the Oklahoma St and TCU games last year and thought, this head coach is doing well in all aspects of head coaching, I’m not sure what to say. But he’s done an incredible job of accumulating talent, no doubt about that. 

I think you're splitting hairs. OP didn't say Sark was perfect. He's made mistakes. But overall, I'm happy with how he did in year 2. He should have beaten Alabama. We pulverized 0u. All losses within one possession. Let's see if he builds on it in year 3.

[Vito Andolini 9431]

Holy shit, the is the Fall Camp thread, not the “Let Me Give Everyone My Hot Take on Steve Sarkisian, Because I’m The Only One Who Knows The Real Truth” thread. Please use the many Sark threads to ruminate, or fire up the DeLorean, type in 1998 and go to Blogger and find a proper home for your brilliance.

Meanwhile, Burton has IT for his hot takes, and here’s the latest he’s sharing:

Spoiler

Game week is here.

And the Longhorns were getting ready to go yesterday.

The team held a mock game, complete with kickoffs, down and distance scenarios, a halftime, and more.

What do I mean by “and more”?

A little pre-game video was in store.

The Horns watched the Texas Tech pep rally prior to getting out on the field.

I guess we should thank the Big 12 commissioner for providing a little extra motivation and focus heading into next Saturday and the season.

He’s a genius! 😉

**

A couple of Longhorn players have been battling illness the past few weeks. It seems like a little summer flu went through a couple of folks in the locker room.

Steve Sarkisian said Xavier Worthy was held out of practice a couple of days early last week. Worthy wasn’t the only one who missed practice time being under the weather.

We won’t name names here but better to happen now than during the season.

**

As Gerry Hamilton has pointed out, the loss of Mo Blackwell for the first few games of the season may be slightly bigger than some realize.

While his absence definitely impacts the versatility of the defense, it’s Blackwell’s standout play on special teams that could be missed even more.

We wish Mo nothing but a speedy recovery, and hope the timeline of being back for the start of conference play stands.

**

Rice Owls. T-minus six days.

 

[Royale with cheese 1491]

9 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

No shit. Tommy Tuberville and Gene Chizic and Ed Orgeron have won national championships. You can't convince me that those men are such masterful field generals/tacticians.

Tubberville? I'd almost forgotten that one until Yormark reminded us that he won it while he was at Tech.

[lilMAC25 3969]

1 hour ago, Mikey4 said:

Yes, I think so. The roster he inherited was not his fault. The injuries to an already thin roster were not his fault. If you look at the things he was responsible for -- recruiting, developing, and retaining talent, and winning the winnable games -- he has done well. I wouldn't say perfect, but well.

[cmontexas 3331]

Watts is an NFL corner, and not a safety. Gtfo with the Ian Boyd shit

[cmontexas 3331]

In the last 3 drafts NFL teams have selected 111 corners and 60 safeties. I could do 1st and 2nd day picks also to further belittle the idea that moving to safety for one season would somehow "improve [Watts] draft stock"

[closetojumping 65245]

1 hour ago, Herpa Derpa said:

First 5 years as a P5 coach:

6-5-1 (L - Independence)

6-6 (L - Sun)

7-5 (L - Aloha)

6-6 No Bowl

9-2 Left before bowl win.

 

That guy went on to have a pretty decent rest of career at the next two P5s that had better resources and recruiting draw than the first stop. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Just keep building the machine. Personally, I'm more than willing to endure a few seasons of near miss heartbreak if the climb eventually reaches the pinnacle. Time will tell the tale.

This is the college football version of Godwin’s Law rearing its head like clockwork. The longer a college football discussion about head coaches continues, the likelihood of a comparison to Nick Saban trends towards 1.000. 

[lilMAC25 3969]

22 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

This is the college football version of Godwin’s Law rearing its head like clockwork. The longer a college football discussion about head coaches continues, the likelihood of a comparison to Nick Saban trends towards 1.000. 

Bingo. 
 

Charlie Strong just needed more time.

 

[bschoolprof 6335]

54 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

Holy shit, the is the Fall Camp thread, not the “Let Me Give Everyone My Hot Take on Steve Sarkisian, Because I’m The Only One Who Knows The Real Truth” thread. Please use the many Sark threads to ruminate, or fire up the DeLorean, type in 1998 and go to Blogger and find a proper home for your brilliance.

Meanwhile, Burton has IT for his hot takes, and here’s the latest he’s sharing:

  Reveal hidden contents

Game week is here.

And the Longhorns were getting ready to go yesterday.

The team held a mock game, complete with kickoffs, down and distance scenarios, a halftime, and more.

What do I mean by “and more”?

A little pre-game video was in store.

The Horns watched the Texas Tech pep rally prior to getting out on the field.

I guess we should thank the Big 12 commissioner for providing a little extra motivation and focus heading into next Saturday and the season.

He’s a genius! 😉

**

A couple of Longhorn players have been battling illness the past few weeks. It seems like a little summer flu went through a couple of folks in the locker room.

Steve Sarkisian said Xavier Worthy was held out of practice a couple of days early last week. Worthy wasn’t the only one who missed practice time being under the weather.

We won’t name names here but better to happen now than during the season.

**

As Gerry Hamilton has pointed out, the loss of Mo Blackwell for the first few games of the season may be slightly bigger than some realize.

While his absence definitely impacts the versatility of the defense, it’s Blackwell’s standout play on special teams that could be missed even more.

We wish Mo nothing but a speedy recovery, and hope the timeline of being back for the start of conference play stands.

**

Rice Owls. T-minus six days.

 

Agree. But given that our administration has turbo fucked us with shit hires for the last decade, you can hardly blame folks for not worrying about the new living room rug we bought this fall, but instead coming back to the giant fucking elephant standing on it.  

[lilMAC25 3969]

4 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Agree. But given that our administration has turbo fucked us with shit hires for the last decade, you can hardly blame folks for not worrying about the new living room rug we bought this fall, but instead coming back to the giant fucking elephant standing on it.  

[BornOrange 1441]

That elephant better not pee on the rug, because that rug really ties the room together.

[Huckleberry 34404]

30 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Agree. But given that our administration has turbo fucked us with shit hires for the last decade, you can hardly blame folks for not worrying about the new living room rug we bought this fall, but instead coming back to the giant fucking elephant standing on it.  

So you agree that this thread isn't for bitching about Sarkisian and decided to solve that problem by instead bitching about Sarkisian, Herman, and Strong. 

[pearlandhorn 3343]

What happened to Blackwell?

[Vertigo 20461]

27 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

What happened to Blackwell?

She turned into a Disney witch.

 

[LTtxfan 49908]

32 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

What happened to Blackwell?

 

MCL injury per this

[6th Street 6653]

Nebraska got lucky with Matt Rhule falling into their lap. Was hoping he could be the successor to Sark if we are unable to convince Urban to come out of retirement.

[texifornia 58781]

4 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Nebraska got lucky with Matt Rhule falling into their lap. Was hoping he could be the successor to Sark if we are unable to convince Urban to come out of retirement.

He's unkempt and a drinker. I don't see that playing well the CEO aspects of the Texas job.

[6th Street 6653]

Our current HC got fired for drinking on the job 

[Js1 86929]

Just now, 6th Street said:

Our current HC got fired for drinking on the job 

This is shocking news! 

[Gidnik 3475]

i just really hoppe quinn fixed his footwork.  if he comes out overthrowing everyone again sark should be beaten in the hallway and left for dead. 

[Not a Sock 2362]

26 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Nebraska got lucky with Matt Rhule falling into their lap. Was hoping he could be the successor to Sark if we are unable to convince Urban to come out of retirement.

This boards cuckish obsession with under dog coaches is obnoxious. Rhule is very much a Leach, Gundy, Patterson style coach they only work if they are the underdog, their whole shtick doesn’t work at a top tier program with elite recruiting. Rhule would be a disaster at Texas and Nebraska hiring him is them waving the flag of being a permanent 9-3 10-2 team that will never challenge the OSU/UM/PSU B1G contenders.

Edited August 27, 2023 by Not a Sock

[Js1 86929]

2 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

This boards cuckish obsession with under dog coaches is obnoxious. Rhule is very much a Leach, Gundy, Patterson style coach they only work if they are the underdog, their whole shtick doesn’t work at a top tier program with elite recruiting. Rhule would be a disaster at Texas and Nebraska hiring him is them waving the flag of being a permanent 9-3 10-2 team that will never challenge the OSU/UM/PSU B1G contenders.

Don’t forget the obsession with Traylor 

[tonedeaf 56]

33 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Our current HC got fired for drinking on the job 

I'm uphauled!

[stork642 4511]

46 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Nebraska got lucky with Matt Rhule falling into their lap. Was hoping he could be the successor to Sark if we are unable to convince Urban to come out of retirement.

I’m looking forward to your successor.  

[CastHorn 893]

I think vs Bama we go with the heavy 3 down lineman look. They’ll send Catalon crashing the box every snap until one of their QBs proves he can complete an intermediate pass.

[6th Street 6653]

1 hour ago, Not a Sock said:

This boards cuckish obsession with under dog coaches is obnoxious. Rhule is very much a Leach, Gundy, Patterson style coach they only work if they are the underdog, their whole shtick doesn’t work at a top tier program with elite recruiting. Rhule would be a disaster at Texas and Nebraska hiring him is them waving the flag of being a permanent 9-3 10-2 team that will never challenge the OSU/UM/PSU B1G contenders.

9-3/10-2 would be amazing. Sark has never done it 

[Magus Ossis 2996]

1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

9-3/10-2 would be amazing. Sark has never done it 

What would more amazing than a one-to-two win improvement would be putting the Sark Talk in the Sark Talk thread. Please!

[South Austin 53153]

1 hour ago, 6th Street said:

Nebraska got lucky with Matt Rhule falling into their lap. Was hoping he could be the successor to Sark if we are unable to convince Urban to come out of retirement.

He talks nerdy and shit.

[BERT 4488]

37 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

9-3/10-2 would be amazing. Sark has never done it 

Are you always a cunt? Or do you just play one on Surly? 

[Newy25 7894]

19 minutes ago, BERT said:

Are you always a cunt? Or do you just play one on Surly? 

He’s always a cunt. 

[Hagbard Celine 11157]

this is going to be a long week

[thrillhammer 686]

15 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Listen, I like the guy a lot. He’s pulling in talent like we haven’t had since Mack.

 

 

 

i'm not sure thats correct.  didnt both herman and charlie have higher ranked recruiting classes than sark has had?

[Ricky Butler 2789]

11 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

this is going to be a long week

Two weeks. Next week we'll just argue about whether or not Jake Majors could have done more in the run game.

[LTtxfan 49908]

37 minutes ago, BERT said:

Are you always a cunt? Or do you just play one on Surly? 

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

In the last 3 drafts NFL teams have selected 111 corners and 60 safeties. I could do 1st and 2nd day picks also to further belittle the idea that moving to safety for one season would somehow "improve [Watts] draft stock"

Watts is an NFL corner, and not a safety. Gtfo with the Ian Boyd shit

You seem to feel very strongly about this. I would think that If his speed is a disadvantage at cb then his length and coverage skill would be an advantage at safety. Especially considering how the nfl wr seems to be trending more speedy vs big body.

[lilMAC25 3969]

4 minutes ago, thrillhammer said:

i'm not sure thats correct.  didnt both herman and charlie have higher ranked recruiting classes than sark has had?

The difference is that Sarks classes have high OL/DL (both) and QB talent.

 

Stronk’s had DL talent.

Herman’s had skill position talent.

 

Sark’s classes seem well balanced 

 

 

or maybe I’m drinking the KoolAid

[runthebone 8322]

3 hours ago, texifornia said:

He's unkempt and a drinker. I don't see that playing well the CEO aspects of the Texas job.

He sounds eminently qualified for this board, however.

[Eggo 4026]

24 minutes ago, thrillhammer said:

i'm not sure thats correct.  didnt both herman and charlie have higher ranked recruiting classes than sark has had?

Well sure, if all you need to win is a bunch of 4 star DBs... 

[sith_horn 2486]

5 hours ago, Mikey4 said:

I think you're splitting hairs. OP didn't say Sark was perfect. He's made mistakes. But overall, I'm happy with how he did in year 2. He should have beaten Alabama. We pulverized 0u. All losses within one possession. Let's see if he builds on it in year 3.

Yep. Both QBs injured and a TD courtesy of no-call on holding. I was pleased how the team played that game.

[Magus Ossis 2996]

A difference between our team today and our team this time years past is that our “talent” is showing up to a much greater degree. We haven’t played a real down yet, but our roster to me appears to have far fewer of “unlikely to see the field” and “unfortunately will have to play this season.” We have OL that look promising and are developing. We have speed on both sides of the ball. We are cycling recruiting misses out the portal in exchange for apparent difference makers. To question whether this team is more talented than the Herman/strong ones is borderline complete inattention.

[BigHorn'13 3480]

15 hours ago, KeysPhoneWallet said:

So Catalon gets hurt and you move Thompson to $ and the bring in taffe and then replace watts with brooks bringing someone, either Holmes or Muhammad, in to backfill brooks?

I’m not sure why watts needs to be benched because a safety gets hurt.

I was referring to your scenario of moving watts to safety. There's been plenty of reports (and could be seen in game play) that Brooks is physical enough to play boundary. In such a scenario, I'd rather get holmes to the field side, and have Manny backup both as CB3.

5 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Watts is an NFL corner, and not a safety. Gtfo with the Ian Boyd shit

Definitely agree here. I never bought in to watts having to be a safety at the next level after watching him last season. Sure, he may not be the fastest corner playing football but his length and physical play make up for what he lacks in speed. 

[Had Enough 2108]

Our upside with Sark is greater than Herman, but I can’t help but think NIL/under the table payments heavily skews the recruiting to Sarks advantage. And that might be a sizeable advantage.

Thus far only Banks has come through with actual production from Sarks OL/DL commits.

Murphy/Sorrell committed to Herman, right? Ojomo, Coburn, Sweat, Collins. Thornton and Ovie were Sark guys.

It’s early in those guys careers, but they haven’t done much yet.

[BurntOrange&White 41646]

4 minutes ago, BigHorn'13 said:

I was referring to your scenario of moving watts to safety. There's been plenty of reports (and could be seen in game play) that Brooks is physical enough to play boundary. In such a scenario, I'd rather get holmes to the field side, and have Manny backup both as CB3.

Babers said it appears the guys Texas is reccruiting are versatile guys at corner and guys that can play either side. That is what makes Brooks/Muhammed so good and even Wilson.

1 minute ago, Had Enough said:

Our upside with Sark is greater than Herman, but I can’t help but think NIL/under the table payments heavily skews the recruiting to Sarks advantage. And that might be a sizeable advantage.

Herman would be fucked even with NIL....he had everyone hating him. 

[thrillhammer 686]

3 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Our current HC got fired for drinking on the job 

Hot off the press

[billfromlaketravis 11784]

1 minute ago, Had Enough said:

Our upside with Sark is greater than Herman, but I can’t help but think NIL/under the table payments heavily skews the recruiting to Sarks advantage. And that might be a sizeable advantage.

Thus far only Banks has come through with actual production from Sarks OL/DL commits.

Murphy/Sorrell committed to Herman, right? Ojomo, Coburn, Sweat, Collins. Thornton and Ovie were Sark guys.

It’s early in those guys careers, but they haven’t done much yet.

DJ Campbell will start this season. Looks pretty good Neto will do the same. Cam Williams is our starting RT if Jones didn’t come back for a 6th year.

But yes, the jury is definitely out for the DL.