The Preseason Polls are F'n Stupid, But Here We Are Thread

hookem48 · October 29, 2023

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

A 1-loss SEC champ is not getting left out of the playoff.

not a chance in hell

markstanco · October 29, 2023

If Texas can hold it together and if USC could knock off both Washington/Oregon, Texas is in.
If USC or whoever beats only one of Washington/Oregon it gets shaky because the PAC 2 is good this year. Michigan/OSU, Georgia, Fl St, Texas/Washington/Oregon.

lol. USC isn’t winning any of their remaining games.

markstanco · October 29, 2023

The SEC could easily be left out in that scenario. They sucked in nonconference this year.

Did they suck in viewership?

Surly Bevo · October 29, 2023

As much as we need Texas and Bama to keep winning we kind of need to hold our nose and think same for OU. They are the only possible opponent in the champ game with one overall loss. Not to mention they have the name that gets more recognition.

Then we need to murder the bastards.

Dbeasy · October 29, 2023

5 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

As much as we need Texas and Bama to keep winning we kind of need to hold our nose and think same for OU. They are the only possible opponent in the champ game with one overall loss. Not to mention they have the name that gets more recognition.

Then we need to murder the bastards.

SubliminalHorn · October 29, 2023

6 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

As much as we need Texas and Bama to keep winning we kind of need to hold our nose and think same for OU. They are the only possible opponent in the champ game with one overall loss. Not to mention they have the name that gets more recognition.

Then we need to murder the bastards.

I’m not gonna actively root for them to lose but I’ll be happy af if they do

Surly Bevo · October 29, 2023

I’m not gonna actively root for them to lose but I’ll be happy af if they do

And that’s fair.

NashLonghorn · October 29, 2023

4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Stanford in 2000. And we promptly lost. Mack Brown had Jerry Scarborough send out a letter to his subscribers that week admonishing the fans for not being grateful for having Mack Brown. This was after a lot of disgruntlement in the stands, among reporters and online after a lackluster opener against North Texas or Rice. He gave a vague threat to leave after the season if people didn’t appreciate him. That letter came out after I’d written the mudhole and we were all like “ohhhhhhhh fuck!”.

I’m like 19-9 for them and they’re usually only for big or scary matchups. But people fret that they’re a curse. So I can’t lose, really. But yeah, sentiments on here are getting laughable.

Now that’s a blast from the past

closetojumping · October 29, 2023

34 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

As much as we need Texas and Bama to keep winning we kind of need to hold our nose and think same for OU. They are the only possible opponent in the champ game with one overall loss. Not to mention they have the name that gets more recognition.

Then we need to murder the bastards.

I remember when a lot of people were saying this in 2008 around this time. I mean almost to the day. I remember how smart and good they felt for doing that by season’s end. Holy fuck, man.

Js1 · October 29, 2023

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I remember when a lot of people were saying this in 2008 around this time. I mean almost to the day. I remember how smart and good they felt for doing that by season’s end. Holy fuck, man.

OU needs to always lose. Losing to a terrible 5-7 Charlie Strong team in 2015 didn’t stop a 1 loss Big 12 champion OU from the playoffs. Fuck OU forever and ever.

LTtxfan · October 29, 2023

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

OU needs to always lose. Losing to a terrible 5-7 Charlie Strong team in 2015 didn’t stop a 1 loss Big 12 champion OU from the playoffs. Fuck OU forever and ever.

FloridaHorn · October 29, 2023

5 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Big 12 champ is probably not going to be in the Final Four. It's likely SEC, Pac, big 10 and FSU.

If Texas is the Bug XII champ, there is a 0% chance the committee leaves them out. Same of you guys need for your balls to drop soon.

Surly Bevo · October 29, 2023

26 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I remember when a lot of people were saying this in 2008 around this time. I mean almost to the day. I remember how smart and good they felt for doing that by season’s end. Holy fuck, man.

Why were people saying that around this time in 2008? We hadn't lost to Tech yet and when that happened there were 3 weeks left in the season. Even once that happened nobody would have wanted OU to keep winning with a North/South designed Big 12 Championship game. Them losing but then beating Tech would have been the easiest path there so not sure I follow anything there but the hyper emotional Longhorn fan in you just wanting OU to lose all the time (which I get and generally concur with)

Edited October 29, 2023 by Surly Bevo

closetojumping · October 29, 2023

9 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Why were people saying that around this time in 2008? We hadn't lost to Tech yet and when that happened there were 3 weeks left in the season. Even once that happened nobody would have wanted OU to keep winning with a North/South designed Big 12 Championship game. Them losing but then beating Tech would have been the easiest path there so not sure I follow anything there but the hyper emotional Longhorn fan in you just wanting OU to lose all the time (which I get and generally concur with)

I’m not interested in debating this. If you don’t remember people saying the same exact shit in 2008 it’s either because you were one of them and blacked it out or you’re too young to remember it. This is what happened. It is pure fucking idiocy to root for OU. Good luck doing it. The rest of us with a clue think you are a fucking idiot doing it. So have at it.

Surly Bevo · October 30, 2023

20 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I’m not interested in debating this. If you don’t remember people saying the same exact shit in 2008 it’s either because you were one of them and blacked it out or you’re too young to remember it. This is what happened. It is pure fucking idiocy to root for OU. Good luck doing it. The rest of us with a clue think you are a fucking idiot doing it. So have at it.

If you don't want to debate something don't fucking respond and open the damn debate. I'm old enough to have a kid that is a Jr at Texas and sure as shit didn't want OU representing the South in 2008. I realized once we lost to Tech the easiest non BCS fuckery path to that was both of them taking a loss, us being the South representative and winning the Big 12. We would have been 2 in the end in AP and Harris. Bama/Florida were going to give one or the other a fatal last week of the season SEC Champ game loss. USC was hanging around in what was an average Pac at the time and were never much of a true threat. Yea there would have been probably been some BCS computer hit based on SOS, but wasn't overcoming a 2 ranking in the other components.

As to rooting for them, I don't think prefacing it with "hold our nose" means you put on crimson and cream and play Boomer Sooner. It just means on paper if that is what happens and we do beat them it's probably the easiest way to flank all the other teeth gnashing everybody is doing around all the other beauty contest scenarios. Besides until they lost unexpectedly to Kansas that is what this entire board was looking to do....face an undefeated OU again and get revenge, so not like I am saying anything this board hasn't been on about since around 2:45pm on October 7th.

But yes thank you for confirming that OU sucks, we hate OU blah blah blah. Fuck em, let em win and then let's crush their souls.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Surly Bevo

jimmyjazz · October 30, 2023

32 minutes ago, FloridaHorn said:

If Texas is the Bug XII champ, there is a 0% chance the committee leaves them out. Same of you guys need for your balls to drop soon.

This is the dumbest take on the whole thread. Imagine:

1. Undefeated UGA

2. Undefeated UM/tOSU

3. Undefeated F$U

4. Undefeated UW

5. 1-loss Texas

You seriously think we'd get in? That's fucking lunacy.

Dbeasy · October 30, 2023

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is the dumbest take on the whole thread. Imagine:

1. Undefeated UGA

2. Undefeated UM/tOSU

3. Undefeated F$U

4. Undefeated UW

5. 1-loss Texas

You seriously think we'd get in? That's fucking lunacy.

Well he is from Florida.

immamac · October 30, 2023

12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is the dumbest take on the whole thread. Imagine:

1. Undefeated UGA

2. Undefeated UM/tOSU

3. Undefeated F$U

4. Undefeated UW

5. 1-loss Texas

You seriously think we'd get in? That's fucking lunacy.

Imagine there being 4 undefeated teams at the end of the season. That would be insane. Has that ever happened?

conVINCEd · October 30, 2023

4 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Well he is from Florida.

You’re from Texas. We’ve forfeited the right to turn our nose up at Florida.

Bevo14 · October 30, 2023

16 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is the dumbest take on the whole thread. Imagine:

1. Undefeated UGA

2. Undefeated UM/tOSU

3. Undefeated F$U

4. Undefeated UW

5. 1-loss Texas

You seriously think we'd get in? That's fucking lunacy.

I think it's likelier that all of those teams lose than 4 go undefeated.

immamac · October 30, 2023

https://saturdayblitz.com/2021/11/07/smq-difficult-finish-college-football-season-undefeated/

Yeah not since at least 1978. 2004 had 3 and seems to be a huge outlier. 4 has likely never happened and never will.

conVINCEd · October 30, 2023

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Imagine there being 4 undefeated teams at the end of the season. That would be insane. Has that ever happened?

3 is the most I can remember. An undefeated Auburn got the shaft in 2004 IIRC. That was the BCS and not the CFP, but that’s the only time I can remember a legit undefeated contender left out.

TexEx15 · October 30, 2023

1 minute ago, immamac said:

https://saturdayblitz.com/2021/11/07/smq-difficult-finish-college-football-season-undefeated/

Yeah not since at least 1978. 2004 had 3 and seems to be a huge outlier. 4 has likely never happened and never will.

Murphy’s law. Given our luck the last decade plus I can absolutely see it happening for the first time the last year of the 4 team playoff and the year Texas finally puts it all together and finishes 12-1 with a conference championship their last year in the Big12. Not saying this is how any of it will play out but again, Murphy’s law.

jimmyjazz · October 30, 2023

10 minutes ago, immamac said:

Imagine there being 4 undefeated teams at the end of the season. That would be insane. Has that ever happened?

It doesn't matter. IF it happens -- which is "possible" -- the Big 12 Champ is out. No conditions were placed on the idiotic claim that Texas is automatic as conference champion.

You people (YOU PEOPLE) need to sharpen your fucking reading comprehension skills and pay attention to the counterarguments. There is absolutely a roadmap to Texas getting excluded, even as Big 12 champions. That was my only point.

Edited October 30, 2023 by jimmyjazz

El Squared · October 30, 2023

6 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

Hopefully we can win out. Losing to OU was costly. Furk.

Having a serviceable OL that can move forward one yard on these goal line situations OR having plays to get to the edge , around the impotent middle of the OL would help. Am sure Sark is taking notes from this message board.

Sir Ulrich · October 30, 2023

18 minutes ago, immamac said:

Imagine there being 4 undefeated teams at the end of the season. That would be insane. Has that ever happened?

Since the playoffs began 3 is the record set in 18 and 19.

troph · October 30, 2023

I’m all for OU losing every game but their loss is going to make the race for best one loss team - if we can hang on and win out - a tough one. Oregon is already likely ahead of us now.

but the reason to want OU to lose every time is because there are no guarantees Texas wins. You gotta want them out every time.

HOOKEM4 · October 30, 2023

Motherfuckers counting strikes. Just win. Forget the rest. It is what it is.

Chili dog · October 30, 2023

3 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

As much as we need Texas and Bama to keep winning we kind of need to hold our nose and think same for OU. They are the only possible opponent in the champ game with one overall loss. Not to mention they have the name that gets more recognition.

Then we need to murder the bastards.

MH BEVO · October 30, 2023

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is the dumbest take on the whole thread. Imagine:

1. Undefeated UGA

2. Undefeated UM/tOSU

3. Undefeated F$U

4. Undefeated UW

5. 1-loss Texas

You seriously think we'd get in? That's fucking lunacy.

I’ll be impressed if UW goes undefeated.

HtownHorn · October 30, 2023

1 hour ago, conVINCEd said:

3 is the most I can remember. An undefeated Auburn got the shaft in 2004 IIRC. That was the BCS and not the CFP, but that’s the only time I can remember a legit undefeated contender left out.

I do wonder if that was the turning point to the SEC powers that be to change their scheduling in order to make sure their teams never suffered another outcome like that. Granted that Auburn team would have been boat raced by both USC and OU that season. Hell, Texas and California likely beat the shit out of them as well.

conVINCEd · October 30, 2023

12 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

I do wonder if that was the turning point to the SEC powers that be to change their scheduling in order to make sure their teams never suffered another outcome like that. Granted that Auburn team would have been boat raced by both USC and OU that season. Hell, Texas and California likely beat the shit out of them as well.

USC would’ve fucked up anyone that year. Our deathstar was only about 80% complete at that point.

JGrayDBU · October 30, 2023

rankings don't make a shit. We have one loss coming, most likely this weekend.

Hagbard Celine · October 30, 2023

7 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

We need a mud hole post dude.

his last mudhole post had the locker room passing around virtual blunts

no

we don't need a mud hole post

not after the houston game

Zeus · October 30, 2023

19 minutes ago, JGrayDBU said:

rankings don't make a shit. We have one loss coming, most likely this weekend.

No.

Js1 · October 30, 2023

2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

No.

We’d finally get the OU-Georgia matchup we didn’t get earlier this year

4th&Five · October 30, 2023

Fuck that. Make Penn state and Unc play, since they’re both dog shit.

closetojumping · October 30, 2023

36 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

his last mudhole post had the locker room passing around virtual blunts

no

we don't need a mud hole post

not after the houston game

Name the last one. Seriously, without looking it up, tell us what the fuck you are talking about and not in your bizarre star trek code.

Pancho · October 30, 2023

40 minutes ago, Zeus said:

No.

Palm still has us in the CFP as the 4 seed

ESPN bros have us in the Cotton Bowl

Hagbard Celine · October 30, 2023

8 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

My favorite thing on message boards is when the caterwauling vaginas tremble in fear because message board posters are discussing long term possibilities.

"OH MY GOD YOU GUYS LET'S FOCUS ON THE NEXT OPPONENT PLEASE ONE GAME AT A TIME"

Gentlemen, neither you nor the other posters on this board are that important. What we talk about has jack shit to do with the team's performance. Shut the fuck up about people discussing the football season on a football season discussion board.

flatdawgs · October 30, 2023

8 hours ago, MH BEVO said:

I’ll be impressed if UW goes undefeated.

Yeah, me too. It ain't happening.

I still think UT gets in with one loss. However, just to be sure, you should root for Oregon to lose again. Go ahead; it's fun and cathartic.

FloridaHorn · October 30, 2023

10 hours ago, immamac said:

Imagine there being 4 undefeated teams at the end of the season. That would be insane. Has that ever happened?

This is why I said what I said. I would be shocked if there are two undefeated teams at the end of the year.

52-80 · October 30, 2023

the 'good' thing about texas' loss is it was a close one in neutral field at the mid point of the season.

UM vs OSU is the last regular season game. (they also have Penn State coming up)

UW is facing SC, Utah, OrSU in consecutive games, and closes out with a rivalry game vs Wazzu

recency bias is going against all these teams.... but it dont mean shit if texas cant win out

Frank Drebin · October 30, 2023

It is more likely than not that we do not win out. Now if we beat K State and get Quinn back soon, that changes and I think the odds are we do win out.

But the odds of there being 4 undefeated conference champs is probably around 3%. It won't happen. It never does. Especially in a year like this one when there aren't several dominant teams and all the conferences outside of the ACC look to have decent depth.

immamac · October 30, 2023

If FSU or Washington drop a game it's completely over for them on CFP if others win out. FSU has played a completely dogshit schedule, but they honestly look the most likely to win out. Michigan can drop PSU and beat OSU and still get in I think.

conVINCEd · October 30, 2023

Just now, immamac said:

If FSU or Washington drop a game it's completely over for them on CFP if others win out. FSU has played a completely dogshit schedule, but they honestly look the most likely to win out. Michigan can drop PSU and beat OSU and still get in I think.

They would need to score a point against Iowa in the CCG.

GreenspointTexas · October 30, 2023

We had our chance to control our own destiny, we blew it

We still somewhat have control over our own destiny if we blow out teams and look good down the stretch, we blowing it

We likely losing at least one more game this season without Quinn, we gonna blow it

We arent making the playoffs, come to grips with that. the odds of us making the playoffs are like 10% with the way we playing right now

fuck this aggy shit of rooting for ou and bama… jesus guys

markstanco · October 30, 2023

1 minute ago, GreenspointTexas said:

fuck this aggy shit of rooting for ou and bama… jesus guys

I agree on the ou part, but not bama. They need to keep winning, how they finish in conference can be helpful or hurtful on SOS.

blutow · October 30, 2023

18 minutes ago, immamac said:

If FSU or Washington drop a game it's completely over for them on CFP if others win out. FSU has played a completely dogshit schedule, but they honestly look the most likely to win out. Michigan can drop PSU and beat OSU and still get in I think.

Oregon is probably more likely to win out than Washington. I think there is a >50% chance there will be 2 unbeatens out of MU/OSO, GA, and FSU. Assuming that happens and we win out, it will be a 1 loss beauty contest for the remaining 2 spots. Our resume would have us in the mix, but far from guaranteed. We really need both Washington and Oregon to lose a game prior to CCG and we need Alabama to keep winning. If Bama wins out and beats Georgia in CCG, it would be really hard to leave out a 1 loss Texas when Bama would certainly be in.

SimkinsMan · October 30, 2023

34 minutes ago, immamac said:

If FSU or Washington drop a game it's completely over for them on CFP if others win out. FSU has played a completely dogshit schedule, but they honestly look the most likely to win out. Michigan can drop PSU and beat OSU and still get in I think.

Michigan is getting zero benefit of the doubt due to the scandal. One loss and their out IMO.

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