Surly Horns Weekly Top 25 Poll

[BigOrange1 6,436]

i mentioned this in another thread and there seemed to be enough interest in the idea to merit it's own thread so here it is.  we did this years ago on shaggy and it was kind of fun.  anyone who wants to participate can do so.  i'll just ask that if you jump in at the beginning to please make every effort to participate all season long so we don't have 30 voters for week 1 and 4 voters at the end.

i will compile the results each week.  just send your poll as either an excel spreadsheet or word document to surlytop25@gmail.com.  i'll publish the results every monday morning, so the deadline to have your ballot in each week will be 7:00pm on Sunday evening.  for the preseason poll, i will publish it on monday, august 28th so ballots will be due by 7:00pm on sunday, august 27th.

[BigOrange1 6,436]

bump, in typical surly fashion i have received 0 ballots thus far.  in order to be included in the preseason poll, ballots must be received by 7:00pm on sunday, august 27th.

again, send in your ballot via word or excel to surlytop25@gmail.com

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

I sent mine in.  

Wulaw Surly Top 25

1)      Georgia

2)      Texas

3)      Michigan

4)      LSU

5)      Ohio State

6)      Clemson

7)      USC

😎      Kansas State

9)      Oregon

10)   Alabama

11)   Washington

12)   Florida State

13)   Notre Dame

14)   Penn State

15)   Ole Miss

16)   Texas Tech

17)   North Carolina

18)   Oregon State

19)   Iowa

20)   UTSA

21)   UCLA

22)   Oklahoma

23)   Utah

24)   Tenn

25)   North Carolina

Edited August 21, 2023 by Wulaw Horn

[BigOrange1 6,436]

between the two of us, there are now two ballots officially in.

[gmr548 16,576]

Three are in. Surprised myself a bit and put Texas at 9. I think this year is going to be anarchy after the top 3 spots (Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State).

[BigOrange1 6,436]

we are up to five votes.  this thing is scorching hot.

[heso 2,791]

Shouldn’t the preseason poll come out before the first set of games on the 26th? Or are we just assuming ND - Navy and USC - SJSU won’t affect anything?

[BigOrange1 6,436]

honestly, i've been so focused on september 2nd being opening day that i completely forgot about week 0.  neither notre dame or usc should be challenged, but by all means you can wait until after saturday's games conclude before sending in your ballot.

[BigOrange1 6,436]

one final bump for week 1.  ballots are due at 7:00pm tonight.  so far we have a total of 6.  can we hit double digits?

[gmr548 16,576]

Kind of wish I’d held off until today looking at what USC’s defense allowed to SJSU. Gashed for several long runs on the ground They’re going to have to lock Nevada the fuck down for me not to drop them notably.

[40acredropout 2,902]

Can’t wait to see the wisdom of this 5 person crowd

[Blotto 23,497]

If this crew ever crosses paths with the "preseason football polls are stupid and ruin the sport" contingent here on Surly....the dance battles will be epic

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by Blotto

[gmr548 16,576]

33 minutes ago, 40acredropout said:

Can’t wait to see the wisdom of this 5 person crowd

[ztejas 43,418]

I'll get one in by 7.

Y'all have aggy in your top 5 right?

[BigOrange1 6,436]

1 hour ago, gmr548 said:

Kind of wish I’d held off until today looking at what USC’s defense allowed to SJSU. Gashed for several long runs on the ground They’re going to have to lock Nevada the fuck down for me not to drop them notably.

lol same.

[BigOrange1 6,436]

53 minutes ago, 40acredropout said:

Can’t wait to see the wisdom of this 5 person crowd

don't think it's gonna look terribly different from any of the other preseason polls from what i've seen thus far.

16 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I'll get one in by 7.

Y'all have aggy in your top 5 right?

can confirm that of the 30 teams that have appeared on a ballot thus far, aggy is not one of them.

[ztejas 43,418]

Emailed. Confirm you got it @BigOrange1

Happy to post mine every week here too.

1. Georgia
2. Ohio State
3. Michigan
4. Clemson
5. Alabama
6. Texas
7. Penn State
8. USC
9. Tennessee 
10. Notre Dame
11. Utah 
12. Oregon
13. Florida State
14. Ole Miss
15. Washington
16. Kansas State
17. Wisconsin
18. Florida
19. TCU
20. Oklahoma
21. Kentucky
22. Tulane
23. UNC
24. Iowa
25. UCLA

Oh shit I left off LSU. Oh well. Fuck em.

Edited August 27, 2023 by ztejas

[Uncle Nate 2,097]

Might be a good idea to see if this can be pinned to the top?  I might join in if my pea-sized brain/memory can be reminded of it by seeing it up top.

Then again, I might still miss it.

It's really all on me.  

[heso 2,791]

We never saw the results for this week. 

[SHOOTER12 8,800]

On 8/21/2023 at 12:53 PM, Wulaw Horn said:

I sent mine in.  

Wulaw Surly Top 25

1)      Georgia

2)      Texas

3)      Michigan

4)      LSU

5)      Ohio State

6)      Clemson

7)      USC

😎      Kansas State

9)      Oregon

10)   Alabama

11)   Washington

12)   Florida State

13)   Notre Dame

14)   Penn State

15)   Ole Miss

16)   Texas Tech

17)   North Carolina

18)   Oregon State

19)   Iowa

20)   UTSA

21)   UCLA

22)   Oklahoma

23)   Utah

24)   Tenn

25)   North Carolina

What a bullshit listing, no aggy? lol

[SHOOTER12 8,800]

On 8/28/2023 at 10:48 AM, Uncle Nate said:

Might be a good idea to see if this can be pinned to the top?  I might join in if my pea-sized brain/memory can be reminded of it by seeing it up top.

Then again, I might still miss it.

It's really all on me.  

Might be a good idea to skip the fucking excel spread sheet and the email crap. I was just about to start my list when I saw that shit.

Ain't nobody got time for that shit bro.

[ztejas 43,418]

5 hours ago, heso said:

We never saw the results for this week. 

He started another thread.

This is going poorly to start. We need it pinned - could just have one thread pinned with running updates. 

Also - huge game this week on Sunday - what's the deadline?

[gmr548 16,576]

After yesterday I already know I am going to get to somewhere between like 12-15 and start thinking "everyone sucks do I have to pick 25?"

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

35 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

After yesterday I already know I am going to get to somewhere between like 12-15 and start thinking "everyone sucks do I have to pick 25?"

I don’t know- feels like maybe Colorado ranked #1, Domers 2 and everyone else in the others receiving votes category based upon the shit show that was yesterday. Plus whatever happens in LSU v FSU.  Fighting Mack Browns I guess too. 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Wulaw Horn

[gmr548 16,576]

11 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I don’t know- feels like maybe Colorado ranked #1, Domers 2 and everyone else in the others receiving votes category based upon the shit show that was yesterday. Plus whatever happens in LSU v FSU.  Fighting Mack Browns I guess too. 

ND is definitely moving up a good bit in my poll. I don't know that they have a CFP-competitive ceiling but clearly the floor is very high too, which counts for something these days. I already had UNC a good bit higher than the coaches/AP polls  (top 15) so I am not really moving them up but I feel like where I slotted them is justified after watching them last night. A top tier QB and strong defensive front can cover a lot of issues and win a lot of games, as Mack knows well.

Dropping USC a bit because I am not buying their defense and clearly I had Texas too high at 9. Tech and TCU gtfo obviously. Fresno State just beat Purdue and I'll probably move them into the poll. They are bringing quite a bit back off a MWC title team that was competitive with Oregon State and beat WSU in a bowl last year. I'll probably throw OU and aggy in because neither shit the bed and that seems to be the bar for week 1.

I don't think I'm going to rank Colorado. They played a nice game yesterday and Sanders can straight up play at the QB position but I don't think they are going to have the depth to have staying power. There's simply no way Travis Hunter can play 100+ snaps a game through a full P5 schedule. I can also maybe forgive TCU a bit if they come out looking decent the next few weeks because preparing for that team had to be next to impossible not knowing at all what to expect.

Looking around and seeing how many teams struggled with theoretically inferior opponents, I wonder if this is just going to be the norm going forward as there is more roster turnover with the portal. 

 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

16 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

ND is definitely moving up a good bit in my poll. I don't know that they have a CFP-competitive ceiling but clearly the floor is very high too, which counts for something these days. I already had UNC a good bit higher than the coaches/AP polls  (top 15) so I am not really moving them up but I feel like where I slotted them is justified after watching them last night. A top tier QB and strong defensive front can cover a lot of issues and win a lot of games, as Mack knows well.

Dropping USC a bit because I am not buying their defense and clearly I had Texas too high at 9. Tech and TCU gtfo obviously. Fresno State just beat Purdue and I'll probably move them into the poll. They are bringing quite a bit back off a MWC title team that was competitive with Oregon State and beat WSU in a bowl last year. I'll probably throw OU and aggy in because neither shit the bed and that seems to be the bar for week 1.

I don't think I'm going to rank Colorado. They played a nice game yesterday and Sanders can straight up play at the QB position but I don't think they are going to have the depth to have staying power. There's simply no way Travis Hunter can play 100+ snaps a game through a full P5 schedule. I can also maybe forgive TCU a bit if they come out looking decent the next few weeks because preparing for that team had to be next to impossible not knowing at all what to expect.

Looking around and seeing how many teams struggled with theoretically inferior opponents, I wonder if this is just going to be the norm going forward as there is more roster turnover with the portal. 

 

I'm completely and totally rejiggering my rankings.  My first rankings (preseason) were based upon how I felt like teams would finish (I.E. my top 4 were my 4 playoff teams, I had UTSA ranked because I thought they might go 11-1 and sneak in the rankings at the end of the year etc), but from here on out it's going to be mostly resume based.  I have Colorado for example around #10 in the rankings. I fully expect them to go 6-6 and end up unranked, but they just had the best road win of the week I think- so how can I not rank them after 1 game if I'm going to be results based?

Wyoming at 25 for the same reason. Do I think they are the 25th best team?  No. But they just beat a ranked opponent and are 1-0- enjoy your time in the spotlight Cowboys.  

I've got Texas/aggy and OU all in the same spot.  Texas Defense, don't get it twisted, was very very very good. Might have been the best unit of all of those 3 teams.  Aggy WR and QB- I'm not going to say I'd trade our QB room for theirs, but I like their passing game more than ours and I wasn't expecting to say that. I think we are deeper in all the skill positions but I think they are better on the top line.  Maybe NMSU is just awful, but they looked a lot better than last year with their early season whipping. The aggy coaster clicks along upward.  

[BigOrange1 6,436]

since there are games tonight and tomorrow, let's set this week's deadline as 11:59pm on Monday night.  rankings will be posted on Tuesday morning.

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

On 9/3/2023 at 10:09 AM, BigOrange1 said:

since there are games tonight and tomorrow, let's set this week's deadline as 11:59pm on Monday night.  rankings will be posted on Tuesday morning.

Damn it. Did all the rankings and left it at work to finish tomorrow. Ok. 

[BigOrange1 6,436]

1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Damn it. Did all the rankings and left it at work to finish tomorrow. Ok. 

considering i've only received one ballot aside from my own thus far, lets call the deadline noon tomorrow and i'll put everything together during lunch time.

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

8 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

considering i've only received one ballot aside from my own thus far, lets call the deadline noon tomorrow and i'll put everything together during lunch time.

I just knocked it out and emailed to you. I will post here to be mocked and ridiculed.  No, I don't believe Duke is the 3rd best team in the land.  Is LSU or Clemson probably a top 25 team?  Yeah, but they didn't look it with the 1 data point I have. I'm doing a resume based poll.  There will be wild swings during the year.  That said- Georgia has won 2 in a row so I'm going to need to see something special from someone else or them shit the bed to move them out.

Mock away:

1) Georgia

2) Florida State

3) Duke

4) Michigan

5) USC

6) Noter Dame

7) Washington

😎 Penn State

9) North Carolina

10) Tennessee

11) Alabama

12) Utah

13) Colorado

14) aggy

15) Texas

16) Ohio State

17) Oklahoma 

18) Oregon

19) Oregon State

20) Ole Miss

21) Kansas State

22) Wisconsin

23) Wyoming

24) Minnesota

25) UCF

 

I decided I'm going to do a resume based poll.  It will probably swing wildly in the first month of the year.  

[gmr548 16,576]

since there are games tonight and tomorrow, let's set this week's deadline as 11:59pm on Monday night.  rankings will be posted on Tuesday morning.

Sent mine in just now, hadn’t seen this; hopefully you can include.

[TxEx84 398]

1	Georgia
2	Alabama
3	Ohio St
4	Penn State
5	Florida State
6	Notre Dame
7	USC
8	Oregon
9	Michigan
10	Washington
11	TEXAS
12	N Carolina
13	Tennessee
14	Utah
15	Kansas State
16	Colorado
17	Oregon State
18	Wisconsin
19	Tulane
20	Ole Miss
21	Oklahoma
22	Kentucky
23	Duke
24	Aggy
25	Texas St (EAT 'EM UP!)

[ztejas 43,418]

Sent.

1. Georgia 

2. Ohio State 

3. Michigan

4. Florida State

5. Alabama 

6. Penn State 

7. Tennessee 

8. Notre Dame 

9. USC 

10. Texas

11. Utah 

12. Washington

13. Oregon 

14. Ole Miss 

15. Oklahoma

16. Kansas State 

17. Wisconsin 

18. Texas atm

19. UNC

20. Kentucky

21. Iowa

22. Duke

23. Colorado

24. LSU

25. Oregon State

Edited September 5, 2023 by ztejas

[BigOrange1 6,436]

hot off the presses, here is this week's top 25 poll (only one tie this week!):

Rank	Team	Record	Points
1	Georiga (6)	(1-0)	150
2	Florida State	(1-0)	135
3	Michigan	(1-0)	133
4	Alabama	(1-0)	123
5	Ohio State	(1-0)	117
6	Washington	(1-0)	113
7	Penn State	(1-0)	111
8	Notre Dame	(2-0)	108
9	USC	(2-0)	103
10	Utah	(1-0)	96
11	Texas	(1-0)	87
12	Oregon	(1-0)	84
13	North Carolina	(1-0)	70
14	Tennessee	(1-0)	69
T15	Duke	(1-0)	59
T15	Kansas State	(1-0)	59
17	Oklahoma	(1-0)	47
18	Ole Miss	(1-0)	46
19	Oregon State	(1-0)	41
20	Colorado	(1-0)	39
21	Wisconsin	(1-0)	38
22	Texas A&M	(1-0)	33
23	LSU	(0-1)	32
24	Tulane	(1-0)	18
25	Iowa	(1-0)	13

 

Others receiving votes: Kentucky (10), Clemson (4), UCLA (3), Wyoming (3), Minnesota (2), Fresno State (2), UCF (1), Texas State (1)

[Underdog 28,611]

On 8/27/2023 at 12:21 PM, ztejas said:

Emailed. Confirm you got it @BigOrange1

Happy to post mine every week here too.

1. Georgia
2. Ohio State
3. Michigan
4. Clemson
5. Alabama
6. Texas
7. Penn State
8. USC
9. Tennessee 
10. Notre Dame
11. Utah 
12. Oregon
13. Florida State
14. Ole Miss
15. Washington
16. Kansas State
17. Wisconsin
18. Florida
19. TCU
20. Oklahoma
21. Kentucky
22. Tulane
23. UNC
24. Iowa
25. UCLA

Oh shit I left off LSU. Oh well. Fuck em.

 

5 hours ago, ztejas said:

Sent.

1. Georgia 

2. Ohio State 

3. Michigan

4. Florida State

5. Alabama 

6. Penn State 

7. Tennessee 

8. Notre Dame 

9. USC 

10. Texas

11. Utah 

12. Washington

13. Oregon 

14. Ole Miss 

15. Oklahoma

16. Kansas State 

17. Wisconsin 

18. Texas atm

19. UNC

20. Kentucky

21. Iowa

22. Duke

23. Colorado

24. LSU

25. Oregon State

 

[gmr548 16,576]

Very satisfying to rearrange my ballot over morning coffee and vault Texas over Alabama. 

Big move-ups for me, in addition to Texas jumping to #6 (top 5 UGA, UM, OSU, FSU, UW), are Colorado jumping into the poll at #18 and Kansas(!) at #24. Alabama falls to #9 and Wisconsin and aggy fall out. The rest of it is pretty conventional even if order may vary a bit. 

[BigOrange1 6,436]

yes i just did mine and it was so fun to put texas at #2 and not feel like i'm being a total homer.  these should be fun this week!

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

I’m on the road. I need to digest what happened and figure out a couple of the games I missed while at the game. Will get my poll back when I get home around 6 if that’s cool. 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

Texas will be #1. I said I’m doing a resume poll and ours is #1 and I think that’s pretty clear- right now. Would I expect Georgia to be a 10 point favorite at a neutral site?  Yes. But they haven’t been great so far against 2 absolutely shitty teams. 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

Emailed to you.  Here are my results to be mocked and ridiculed.  I'm not doing a power poll but rather resume.

Surly week 3 top 25

1)      Texas

2)      Florida State

3)      Georgia

4)      Michigan

5)      Domers

6)      Duke

7)      Washington

😎      USC

9)      Penn State

10)   Colorado

11)   Miami

12)   Ohio State

13)   Ole Miss

14)   North Carolina

15)   Oregon State

16)   Tennessee

17)   Kansas

18)   Utah

19)   Kansas State

20)   Alabama

21)   Oregon

22)   Washington State

23)   Oklahoma

24)   Iowa

25)   Wyoming

[ztejas 43,418]

1. Georgia 

2. Michigan

3. Texas

4. Florida State

5. Ohio State

6. Penn State 

7. Notre Dame

8. Alabama

9. USC

10. Ole Miss

11. Oregon

12. Washington

13. Utah

14. Oklahoma 

15. Kansas State

16. UNC

17. Colorado

18. Iowa

19. LSU

20. Duke

21. Miami

22. Oregon State

23. UCLA

24. Cincinnati

25. Clemson

Edited September 10, 2023 by ztejas

[heso 2,791]

1	Georgia
2	Michigan
3	Texas
4	Florida St
5	Ohio St
6	Penn State
7	Southern Cal
8	Washington
9	Tennessee
10	Notre Dame
11	Alabama
12	Utah
13	Oregon
14	Oregon St
15	Kansas State
16	Oklahoma
17	Miami
18	Ole Miss
19	LSU
20	Iowa
21	UNC
22	Duke
23	Colorado
24	UCLA
25	Washington St

[gmr548 16,576]

Realizing now I forgot to include Miami lol. Probably should have them in at the end over Kansas. Oh well.

[BigOrange1 6,436]

here is week 3:

Rank	Team	Record	Points
1	Georgia (5)	(2-0)	148
T2	Texas (1)	(2-0)	139
T2	Michigan	(2-0)	139
4	Florida State	(2-0)	135
5	Ohio State	(2-0)	117
6	Washington	(2-0)	114
7	Penn State	(2-0)	111
8	Notre Dame	(3-0)	109
9	USC	(3-0)	102
10	Utah	(2-0)	87
11	Alabama	(1-1)	84
12	Oregon	(2-0)	78
T13	Duke	(2-0)	61
T13	Kansas State	(2-0)	61
T13	Ole Miss	(2-0)	61
T16	Tennessee	(2-0)	56
T16	Colorado	(2-0)	56
18	North Carolina	(2-0)	53
19	Oregon State	(2-0)	51
20	Oklahoma	(2-0)	46
21	LSU	(1-1)	41
22	Miami	(2-0)	34
23	Iowa	(2-0)	25
T24	Kansas	(2-0)	11
T24	Washington State	(2-0)	11

 

Others receiving votes: UCLA (8), Clemson (5), Tulane (3), Cincinnati (2), Fresno State (1), Wyoming (1)

Edited September 11, 2023 by BigOrange1

[TxEx84 398]

Mine was late after the binger in Tuscaloosa and the travel back.  Sent mine in Tues morning after recovery. Well worth it. 

1	Georgia
2	Michigan
3	TEXAS
4	Florida State
5	Ohio St
6	Penn State
7	Notre Dame
8	USC
9	Oregon
10	Washington
11	Alabama
12	N Carolina
13	Tennessee
14	Utah
15	Kansas State
16	Colorado
17	Oregon State
18	Wisconsin
19	Ole Miss
20	Oklahoma
21	Kentucky
22	Duke
23	LSU
24	UCLA
25	TCU

[HtownHorn 14,677]

I'll join after this week with more data points.

[BigOrange1 6,436]

16 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

I'll join after this week with more data points.

yes, for anyone who hasn't sent one in before you are definitely encouraged to start sending one in whenever you would like.  the more we get, the better.

[ztejas 43,418]

Week 4

1. Georgia 

2. Michigan

3. Texas

4. Penn State

5. Ohio State

6. FSU

7. USC

8. Notre Dame

9. Washington

10. LSU

11. Oregon

12. Oklahoma

13. Ole Miss

14. Utah

15. UNC

16. Miami

17. Washington State

18. Duke

19. Florida

20. Oregon State

21. Clemson

22. Colorado

23. Kansas State

24. Syracuse

25. UCLA

[gmr548 16,576]

After this week, my thoughts basically come down to, "Do I have to pick 25?"

[JBJ 3,654]

Some of both results and power.

  1 Washington 
  2 Texas 
  3 Florida State 
  4 USC 
  5 Oklahoma 
  6 Michigan 
  7 Notre Dame 
  8 Penn State 
  9 Utah 
  10 Georgia 
  11 Ohio State 
  12 Duke 
  13 North Carolina 
  14 Mississippi 
  15 Oregon 
  16 Iowa 
  17 Rutgers 
  18 Oregon State 
  19 Washington State 
  20 Missouri 
  21 Syracuse 
  22 UCLA 
  23 Alabama 
  24 Kansas 
  25 UCF