Why is the Right so Afraid of the Left?

[EMAWesome 101]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

But you will happily participate in all of the socialist programs that make this country great.

Happily=forced into.  I don't remember any official from the government knocking on my door and asking me if I wanted to have money taken out of my paycheck every two weeks for Social Security and Medicaid.  If I'm having it taken away from me you're damn right I am going to want it returned someday but you know what would really make me happy?  If I actually got the say over what to do with it since it is only my money to begin with.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

3 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 

Wait a fucking minute.

There special privileges and status available to me just for having been born with a vagina?

Did I miss an email? Did my handbook get lost in the mail?

Can someone enumerate these female privileges and womanly statuses I’m apparently being deprived of?

 

Who cares about status and privileges? What you really missed is your government funds allocation. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m serious, what is it they think will happen if the left takes over and passes a progressive agenda?  

How will that hurt the conservative voters personally?

Why are the republican voters so scared?!?

Tax the living fuck out of me.

penalize achievement.( see #1)

lower standards for behavior in society( continual erosion of the judicial system with fucked up edicts and lax policies with regard to the law and enforcement thereof.)

 reward sloth and/ or refusal to contribute to society( I am not anti- safetynet, but believe in defined boundaries/ limits, most of which are stricter than society in general.)

 

i am not afraid, but that is how i generally view the policies of the left.  We survived Obama and WJC, in addition to Bush 43 who was moderate at best on many issues..  LOL.  I am not afraid.

Edited July 2, 2018 by slorch

[Spankytoes 1739]

4 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

"Rescuing?" None really. Not in 60 years or so. 

We agree. Can you tell me the #1 country that has citizens that legally immigrate to the US? 

Hint: Same answer as the #1 illegal source

Has anyone bitched about legal immigrants? Seem like that would be a thing because “brown people”

Edited July 2, 2018 by Spankytoes

[Hank Scorpio 17729]

You're telling me that the guy who buys his wives from Russia has bigoted opinions about women? No wai. 

[David Dennison 18851]

1 minute ago, EMAWesome said:

Happily=forced into.  I don't remember any official from the government knocking on my door and asking me if I wanted to have money taken out of my paycheck every two weeks for Social Security and Medicaid.  If I'm having it taken away from me you're damn right I am going to want it returned someday but you know what would really make me happy?  If I actually got the say over what to do with it since it is only my money to begin with.

You don't remember voting?

[Spankytoes 1739]

2 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Who cares about status and privileges? What you really missed is your government funds allocation. 

You mean like Planned Parenthood? Or privatized maternity leave? Like those?

[seven 1367]

2 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

Can you find me a lawsuit that claims discrimination due to being a man?

First, lol at this stupid ass response. Second, let's let this play out... You feel trans (non-real) women should not have access to the legal system? Yeah, I'd have no problem calling you a bigot. You earned it. 

[David Dennison 18851]

2 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

We agree. Can you tell me the #1 country that has citizens that legally immigrate to the US? 

Hint: Same answer as the #1 illegal source

Has anyone bitched about legal immigrants? Seem like that would be a thing because “brown people”

Yes. What do you think the amnesty issue is all about?

[FondrenRoad 4378]

Just now, Spankytoes said:

We agree. Can you tell me the #1 country that has citizens that legally immigrate to the US? 

Hint: Same answer as the #1 illegal source

Has anyone failed on legal immigrants? Seem like that would be a thing because “brown people”

Yeah, we have failed plenty on legal immigration. We create indentured servants by making work visas non portable. We do nothing to attempt to keep people on student visas here after graduating. In fact, we send those students into the indentured servant work visa track or home. Meanwhile they are the educated "good" immigrants Tahoe claims to want. 

[EMAWesome 101]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You don't remember voting?

Not in nineteen thirty whatever year FDR signed the bill establishing social security.  I'm old but I'm not petrified wood old.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

15 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

No stupid person is capable of more destruction than the stupid person who is convinced he is a genius.  

[Spankytoes 1739]

3 minutes ago, seven said:

First, lol at this stupid ass response. Second, let's let this play out... You feel trans (non-real) women should not have access to the legal system? Yeah, I'd have no problem calling you a bigot. You earned it. 

1. Call them stupid

2. Twist logic into an argument no one even made to deflect from the fact that your argument was destroyed.

3. Name call a second time

Thats a first ballot HOF response for the Left right there. Bravo sir!

[RandomIdoit 655]

 

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Yes. What do you think the amnesty issue is all about?

How many are approved for amnesty though? From what I have seen, it's less than 20%. So 80% are not eligible,

Edited July 2, 2018 by RandomIdoit

[Spankytoes 1739]

4 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Yeah, we have failed plenty on legal immigration. We create indentured servants by making work visas non portable. We do nothing to attempt to keep people on student visas here after graduating. In fact, we send those students into the indentured servant work visa track or home. Meanwhile they are the educated "good" immigrants Tahoe claims to want. 

Chicken and egg. We’d love to take them, but the spaces are overwhelmed with those that do it illegally thereby creating an issue for those that try to go about it the legal way.

[seven 1367]

1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

1. Call them stupid

2. Twist logic into an argument no one even made to deflect from the fact that your argument was destroyed.

3. Name call a second time

Thats a first ballot HOF response for the Left right there. Bravo sir!

I can't help that you are a stupid bigot man, you have to work that out on your own. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

4 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

You mean like Planned Parenthood? Or privatized maternity leave? Like those?

In NY state, its called paid family leave and the same amount of time off is available to fathers. If you didn't take yours, that's your fault. 

The federal govt has no federal family leave law last I checked. 

Planned Parenthood is a private organization offering services for a fee.  It does offer free services to poor people subsidized by donors and grants, many of which are also available to you, like STD testing and penicillin. 

[Spankytoes 1739]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Yes. What do you think the amnesty issue is all about?

We have an appeals process in court. Works about 5% of the time.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 minute ago, seven said:

I can't help that you are a stupid bigot man, you have to work that out on your own. 

Pretty sure he’s just a fucking troll. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

Chicken and egg. We’d love to take them, but the spaces are overwhelmed with those that do it illegally thereby creating an issue for those that try to go about it the legal way.

What spaces? Lol that you think college educated people and those who qualify for work visas are competing for jobs with illegal immigrants. Illegal immigration has no bearing at all on our legal immigration system. 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Yes. What do you think the amnesty issue is all about?

amnesty is also about whether we recognize the sovereignty of our nation.

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

Chicken and egg. We’d love to take them, but the spaces are overwhelmed with those that do it illegally thereby creating an issue for those that try to go about it the legal way.

Ignorant comment that has no basis in reality and therefore really deserves no response. The “immigration space” is overwhelmed? Come on jackass. At least troll with some basis in fact and reality. 

[Spankytoes 1739]

Just now, FondrenRoad said:

In NY state, its called paid family leave and the same amount of time off is available to fathers. If you didn't take yours, that's your fault. 

The federal govt has no federal family leave law last I checked. 

Planned Parenthood is a private organization offering services for a fee.  It does offer free services to poor people subsidized by donors and grants, many of which are also available to you, like STD testing and penicillin. 

I know NY has paid family leave. They also have legalized weed possession. I lived in Texas when I became a father. (Almost 20 years ago) Not sure what that has to do with anything or how it doesn’t show status as requested. Are you looking for more examples? 

PP is a partially government funded organization just like PBS. I love them and financially support them privately.

[Spankytoes 1739]

5 minutes ago, seven said:

I can't help that you are a stupid bigot man, you have to work that out on your own. 

Aw, thanks shithead. You can’t imagine what that means to me.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Ignorant comment that has no basis in reality and therefore really deserves no response. The “immigration space” is overwhelmed? Come on jackass. At least troll with some basis in fact and reality. 

It is based on fact.  The current agencies cannot keep up with the inflow of immigrants.

 

That is absolutely fact.

[F250 28764]

48 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What a stupid formulation for a thread. 

It is a Fox News tactic. Hugo is becoming what he fears.

[Spankytoes 1739]

2 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

What spaces? Lol that you think college educated people and those who qualify for work visas are competing for jobs with illegal immigrants. Illegal immigration has no bearing at all on our legal immigration system. 

For jobs or tax dollars? Do you think the janitor is competing with the CFO at your company? They both have to get paid and are entitled to benefits., which your company subsidizes. 

[seven 1367]

So far the status and privileges "real" women have that should not be available to trans-women are:

Planned parenthood

Maternity leave 

Discrimination lawsuits

 

And he's offended when he's called a stupid bigot. 

[Spankytoes 1739]

3 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Ignorant comment that has no basis in reality and therefore really deserves no response. The “immigration space” is overwhelmed? Come on jackass. At least troll with some basis in fact and reality. 

Thanks for not responding.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

Just now, Spankytoes said:

I know NY has paid family leave. They also have legalized weed possession. I lived in Texas when I became a father. (Almost 20 years ago) Not sure what that has to do with anything or how it doesn’t show status as requested. Are you looking for more examples? 

PP is a partially government funded organization just like PBS. I love them and financially support them privately.

You said those were government funds allocations available to women because they are women. I was pointing out that you get the same family leave also. 

I'd be surprised if Texas has any family leave law. I'd guess it is left to employers to decide and for those who dont offer it, temp disability is required. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

3 minutes ago, F250 said:

It is a Fox News tactic. Hugo is becoming what he fears.

I’m just asking questions.

[Spankytoes 1739]

Just now, seven said:

So far the status and privileges "real" women have that should not be available to trans-women are:

Planned parenthood

Maternity leave 

Discrimination lawsuits

 

And he's offended when he's called a stupid bigot. 

If the ship is sinking, who gets the first boat? Why? If a woman gets pregnant, why doesn’t the father get the ultimate decision on if the pregnancy gets terminated? Can you hit a woman? Why is that looked down on in society more than hitting a man? Sounds like you’re sexist to me. Why don’t you think women are equal?

You don’t offend me because I could not care less of what your opinion is of me. It’s cute that you think I should though.

[David Dennison 18851]

4 minutes ago, seven said:

So far the status and privileges "real" women have that should not be available to trans-women are:

Planned parenthood

Maternity leave 

Discrimination lawsuits

 

And he's offended when he's called a stupid bigot. 

He also left out the fact that in NY he gets paid family leave, too. It's not just for the women folk.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, F250 said:

It is a Fox News tactic. Hugo is becoming what he fears.

Not with regard to Hugo, but Fox News.

 

Dead solid spot on, brother.

 

They are a shitshow.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

2 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

For jobs or tax dollars? Do you think the janitor is competing with the CFO at your company? They both have to get paid and are entitled to benefits., which your company subsidizes. 

Hell, the janitor is probably much healthier. The CFO is more likely to fuck up my risk pool. 

And that also proves my point. If I have an illegal janitor, I still need to hire a CFO. The janitors status plays no role in whether I hire an immigrant CFO or not.

[F250 28764]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m just asking questions.

To troll or not to troll, that is the question.

 

[TwiceHorn 31440]

Because "the left" is a bunch of librul faghets, and librul faghets might touch me inappropriately and spend all my money.

 

I mean, ask a stupid, question that stereotypes people, and begs a question, get a stupid answer that does the same.

Edited July 2, 2018 by TwiceHorn

[seven 1367]

1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

If the ship is sinking, who gets the first boat? Why? If a woman gets pregnant, why doesn’t the father get the ultimate decision on if the pregnancy gets terminated? Can you hit a woman? Why is that looked down on in society more than hitting a man? Sounds like you’re sexist to me. Why don’t you think women are equal?

You don’t offend me because I could not care less of what your opinion is of me. It’s cute that you think I should though.

Keep going man, you're really making yourself look like less of a dumbass

[Spankytoes 1739]

3 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

You said those were government funds allocations available to women because they are women. I was pointing out that you get the same family leave also. 

I'd be surprised if Texas has any family leave law. I'd guess it is left to employers to decide and for those who dont offer it, temp disability is required. 

That’s not what I said though. In fact, I specifically mentioned maternity leave as a privatized benefit. PP was the example I gave subsidized government funds. Another would be causes like a battered woman’s shelter. State law would be alimony, which is not enforced across the board.

[David Dennison 18851]

3 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

If the ship is sinking, who gets the first boat? Why? If a woman gets pregnant, why doesn’t the father get the ultimate decision on if the pregnancy gets terminated? Can you hit a woman? Why is that looked down on in society more than hitting a man? Sounds like you’re sexist to me. Why don’t you think women are equal?

You don’t offend me because I could not care less of what your opinion is of me. It’s cute that you think I should though.

Because he's not pregnant. Duh.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

If the ship is sinking, who gets the first boat? Why? If a woman gets pregnant, why doesn’t the father get the ultimate decision on if the pregnancy gets terminated? Can you hit a woman? Why is that looked down on in society more than hitting a man? Sounds like you’re sexist to me. Why don’t you think women are equal?

You don’t offend me because I could not care less of what your opinion is of me. It’s cute that you think I should though.

I do believe the father should have a say, because he damned sure gets to pay should the abortion not occur.

 

probably a discussion for the abortion thread.

 

Some of us see it as a two-way street.  Much of society disagrees... until the bills come due.

[Spankytoes 1739]

3 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Hell, the janitor is probably much healthier. The CFO is more likely to fuck up my risk pool. 

And that also proves my point. If I have an illegal janitor, I still need to hire a CFO. The janitors status plays no role in whether I hire an immigrant CFO or not.

Unless his salary would take funds away from hiring the CFO, which is my point. The kitty isn’t unlimited.

[seven 1367]

Ok, let's just pretend all of these things are special privileges for women, why would you deny a trans-women care at pp, or family leave, or safe haven at a shelter?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, seven said:

Ok, let's just pretend all of these things are special privileges for women, why would you deny a trans-women care at pp, or family leave, or safe haven at a shelter?

No. We've made the statement as a society that gender doesn't matter.

 

let's go...

Edited July 2, 2018 by slorch

[David Dennison 18851]

Can we start a list of special privileges for men?

Cuz that list is fucking rad.

[seven 1367]

Just now, slorch said:

No.

No what?

[FondrenRoad 4378]

4 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

If the ship is sinking, who gets the first boat? Why? If a woman gets pregnant, why doesn’t the father get the ultimate decision on if the pregnancy gets terminated? Can you hit a woman? Why is that looked down on in society more than hitting a man? Sounds like you’re sexist to me. Why don’t you think women are equal?

You don’t offend me because I could not care less of what your opinion is of me. It’s cute that you think I should though.

You cant hit a man either. But now you aren't talking about govt at all, but societal norms. Like how you were offered family leave but didn't take it because "men dont do that."

[Spankytoes 1739]

1 minute ago, slorch said:

I do believe the father should have a say, because he damned sure gets to pay should the abortion not occur.

 

probably a discussion for the abortion thread.

 

Some of us see it as a two-way street.  Much of society disagrees... until the bills come due.

Bingo.

And that’s illegal immigration: Shouldn’t I get a say so on whether or not I have to pay for a life that I did not want? Abortion is protected by law...and are our immigration policies. You may not agree with them, even from a humanitarian or moral standpoint, but it’s still the fucking law.

[Goredho 17397]

Funny thing, but the right has a pretty strong chance to turn their worst fears about liberals, globalists, etc... into a self-fulfilling prophecy when the power pendulum inevitably swings in the opposite direction.

Edited July 2, 2018 by Goredho

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, seven said:

No what?

I would not deny the rights/ privileges to the trans individual

 

was simply answering your question.

Edited July 2, 2018 by slorch