Arch Manning Being "Arch"

[LTtxfan 48722]

On 5/8/2024 at 9:46 AM, Park Gothic said:

Saw this posted on OTF but didn't see it here. I know this was already common knowledge, but it's still nice to see it again. 

At least two years with Arch as Texas starter beginning 2025 is gruntling...  

[jimmyjazz 45192]

I love how Gerry and the other pundits expound on how "the Manning family" does things, as if they operate out of some sort of mafia war room.

Arch probably listens to his uncles and his granddad.  I suspect he listens most to his own parents.  To say Arch might not go NFL with only one season of starting is pure conjecture, and likely not grounded in any real inside information.

 

Edited May 9 by jimmyjazz
speling

[ousux 5566]

I love how Gerry and the other pundits expound on how "the Manning family" does things, as if they operate out of some sort of mafia war room.
Arch probably listens to his uncles and his granddad.  I suspect he listens most to his own parents.  To say Arch might not go NFL with only one season of starting is pure conjecture, and likely not grounded in any real inside information.
 

I'm sure like most people his age, Arch only listens to his parents, and only the parts he wants to hear. Next up on the list would be grandparents, but I doubt the uncles are hitting him up on the regular...and like you said there are no mafia style family meetings.

[Park Gothic 4892]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I love how Gerry and the other pundits expound on how "the Manning family" does things, as if they operate out of some sort of mafia war room.

Arch probably listens to his uncles and his granddad.  I suspect he listens most to his own parents.  To say Arch might not go NFL with only one season of starting is pure conjecture, and likely not grounded in any real inside information.

 

 

33 minutes ago, ousux said:

I'm sure like most people his age, Arch only listens to his parents, and only the parts he wants to hear. Next up on the list would be grandparents, but I doubt the uncles are hitting him up on the regular...and like you said there are no mafia style family meetings.

I like how y'all both rip on Jerry for speculating about how the Manning family works and then immediately speculate on how the Manning family work. 

[jimmyjazz 45192]

6 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I like how y'all both rip on Jerry for speculating about how the Manning family works and then immediately speculate on how the Manning family work. 

Ooh, sick burn.  Sorry, Gerry's mom.

[Hornius Emeritus 12332]

1 hour ago, ousux said:

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I love how Gerry and the other pundits expound on how "the Manning family" does things, as if they operate out of some sort of mafia war room.
Arch probably listens to his uncles and his granddad.  I suspect he listens most to his own parents.  To say Arch might not go NFL with only one season of starting is pure conjecture, and likely not grounded in any real inside information.
 

I'm sure like most people his age, Arch only listens to his parents, and only the parts he wants to hear. Next up on the list would be grandparents, but I doubt the uncles are hitting him up on the regular...and like you said there are no mafia style family meetings.

I dunno ... if my uncle was Peyton Manning I'd probably listen to what he has to say.

[jimmyjazz 45192]

1 minute ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

I dunno ... if my uncle was Peyton Manning I'd probably listen to what he has to say.

Which . . . I said.

[ousux 5566]

I dunno ... if my uncle was Peyton Manning I'd probably listen to what he has to say.

If the uncles choose to say much of anything, sure. If Peyton and Eli were constantly badgering Arch with advice that would be disrespectful to their other brother who is more than capable of raising his own son. All I'm saying is when people talk of the "Manning family" or "Manning braintrust" etc..what they're picturing in their mind likely has no basis in reality.

[texasdago 7407]

Yes, you definitely listen to your parents... you might want to listen to your other rando relatives... you know, two College Football Hall of Fame inductions, three SEC player of the year awards, 20 cumulative Pro Bowl selections, seven first-team All-Pro selections, five NFL MVP awards, six Super Bowl appearances, four Super Bowl victories, three Super Bowl MVP awards.

 

[thunderlounge 7637]

His family has said many times in various interviews they want him to do it right.

That leads me to believe they want him to take the old school approach, same as his family. When they did it, it was a lot of RS/BU/ST/ST/draft.

That appears to be the current trajectory, which is fine. No need to rush off early just for money. Get your head straight, and be well prepared when you do enter the draft. I’m fine with that, and he’s on the right track.

 

 

[Foosters 17638]

there's always an uncle

[TreatyOak 16096]

48 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Yes, you definitely listen to your parents... you might want to listen to your other rando relatives... you know, two College Football Hall of Fame inductions, three SEC player of the year awards, 20 cumulative Pro Bowl selections, seven first-team All-Pro selections, five NFL MVP awards, six Super Bowl appearances, four Super Bowl victories, three Super Bowl MVP awards.

 

And still a disappointment to their mothers. 

[jimmyjazz 45192]

1 hour ago, texasdago said:

Yes, you definitely listen to your parents... you might want to listen to your other rando relatives... you know, two College Football Hall of Fame inductions, three SEC player of the year awards, 20 cumulative Pro Bowl selections, seven first-team All-Pro selections, five NFL MVP awards, six Super Bowl appearances, four Super Bowl victories, three Super Bowl MVP awards.

Nobody is suggesting that Arch shouldn't (or isn't) taking their advice.  My only point is that it would be odd to have some sort of scripted approach to his college/pro career that everyone is in on.

[Napoleon 8580]

On 5/8/2024 at 9:46 AM, Park Gothic said:

Saw this posted on OTF but didn't see it here. I know this was already common knowledge, but it's still nice to see it again. 

I feel like someone has posted about this before. 
 🤔

 

2 hours ago, ousux said:

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I love how Gerry and the other pundits expound on how "the Manning family" does things, as if they operate out of some sort of mafia war room.
Arch probably listens to his uncles and his granddad.  I suspect he listens most to his own parents.  To say Arch might not go NFL with only one season of starting is pure conjecture, and likely not grounded in any real inside information.
 

I'm sure like most people his age, Arch only listens to his parents, and only the parts he wants to hear. Next up on the list would be grandparents, but I doubt the uncles are hitting him up on the regular...and like you said there are no mafia style family meetings.

"the Manning family" does things, as if they operate out of some sort of mafia war room

Edited May 9 by Napoleon

[Hornius Emeritus 12332]

45 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

I feel like someone has posted about this before. 
 🤔

 

"the Manning family" does things, as if they operate out of some sort of mafia war room

 

[cmontexas 3226]

6 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

It's stupid to suggest that QBs don't get hurt behind good OLines. The best lines in the game still give up sacks.

Hell Aikman got hit so many times he retired early and he played behind the most revered Oline that ever did it.

I say that just as transition to say Campbell and Williams are gonna smash people on the right side like Nate and Erik (Williams)

[MAUFRAIS 6561]

Maybe they’ll be so good they name the field after them.

[Post Oak 20112]

Sark

 

[LTtxfan 48722]

Off-season... just stumbled on this old high school Arch clip... 

 

[Biff Tannen 45158]

On 5/6/2024 at 10:19 PM, Pig Bellmont said:

Can I step in and say y’all are nuts. Ewers (if healthy) is a top 5 qb next season 

I mean, if he’s the Heisman favorite, in theory, he should be the number 1 qb. Not sure how it will shake out of course, but that seems to be the consensus. 

[TrashMaster G 17295]

17 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Off-season... just stumbled on this old high school Arch clip... 

 

[aggy] He locks on to a receiver - Will get intercepted often in the SEC. [/aggy]

[wood 10957]

On 5/9/2024 at 5:03 PM, cmontexas said:

Hell Aikman got hit so many times he retired early and he played behind the most revered Oline that ever did it.

Not sure that's a great example. Aikman was a tackling dummy his first couple of years in the league. They were teeing off, and they were allowed to absolutely punish the QB back then in ways that would never fly now. I've never seen a QB take a worse beating for so long. The OL didn't get good until later. He took 58 sacks and a helluva lot more hits those first two years, in just 26 games played, while the team went 8-24.

Edited May 15 by wood

[wood 10957]

On 5/8/2024 at 8:44 AM, 52-80 said:

it's this guy from Bernie

 

'Course I left out the Panhandle, and a lot of people do. But Carthage ... '

[ousux 5566]

Not sure that's a great example. Aikman was a tackling dummy his first couple of years in the league. They were teeing off, and they were allowed to absolutely punish the QB back then in ways that would never fly now. I've never seen a QB take a worse beating for so long. The OL didn't get good until later. He took 58 sacks and a helluva lot more hits those first two years, while the team went 8-24.

Who was the Texans QB a while back, Carr or something like that? That dude spent his entire career in Houston eating turf.

[wood 10957]

2 minutes ago, ousux said:

30 minutes ago, wood said:

Not sure that's a great example. Aikman was a tackling dummy his first couple of years in the league. They were teeing off, and they were allowed to absolutely punish the QB back then in ways that would never fly now. I've never seen a QB take a worse beating for so long. The OL didn't get good until later. He took 58 sacks and a helluva lot more hits those first two years, while the team went 8-24.

Who was the Texans QB a while back, Carr or something like that? That dude spent his entire career in Houston eating turf.

David Carr.

[Deej 76201]

6 minutes ago, ousux said:

That dude spent his entire career in Houston eating turf

 

[TrashMaster G 17295]

36 minutes ago, wood said:

Not sure that's a great example. Aikman was a tackling dummy his first couple of years in the league. They were teeing off, and they were allowed to absolutely punish the QB back then in ways that would never fly now. I've never seen a QB take a worse beating for so long. The OL didn't get good until later. He took 58 sacks and a helluva lot more hits those first two years, while the team went 8-24.

Yeah, Aikman's first two seasons probably cut his career short by three or four years.

[ImissWallyPryor 9044]

53 minutes ago, wood said:

David Carr.

Carr Throws Far?

[Vertuzzi 1304]

On 5/13/2024 at 7:55 PM, LTtxfan said:

Off-season... just stumbled on this old high school Arch clip... 

 

[Napoleon 8580]

7 hours ago, wood said:

Not sure that's a great example. Aikman was a tackling dummy his first couple of years in the league. They were teeing off, and they were allowed to absolutely punish the QB back then in ways that would never fly now. I've never seen a QB take a worse beating for so long. The OL didn't get good until later. He took 58 sacks and a helluva lot more hits those first two years, in just 26 games played, while the team went 8-24.

I invite you to see if you can find footage of Cam Newton’s time in Carolina.

Defenders would launch themselves and spear Cam in the chin with the tops of their helmets in ways that were illegal to do against any player in any position in the NFL and refs didn’t give a shit.

I have never seen a better example of secret direction from the home office to allow opposing players to take down a player that the shit that was allowed to be done against Cam Newton. I recall a nationally televised game in the fall of 2016 or ‘17 where Newton probably received 6 or 7 headshots in a single game and not one was called. (He will absolutely develop CTE.)

[wood 10957]

3 hours ago, Napoleon said:

I invite you to see if you can find footage of Cam Newton’s time in Carolina.

Defenders would launch themselves and spear Cam in the chin with the tops of their helmets in ways that were illegal to do against any player in any position in the NFL and refs didn’t give a shit.

I have never seen a better example of secret direction from the home office to allow opposing players to take down a player that the shit that was allowed to be done against Cam Newton. I recall a nationally televised game in the fall of 2016 or ‘17 where Newton probably received 6 or 7 headshots in a single game and not one was called. (He will absolutely develop CTE.)

I remember it was rough for him too, and I don't doubt he took those shots, but I do doubt it was worse or for longer than what Aikman took. Of course there's no way to prove that, but Aikman was taking every kind of shot there is, including the kind you described, and frequently, for 3 seasons. Helmet to the head, helmet to the face, helmet in the ribs, helmet in the kidneys, late hits, side of the knees, hi-lo, body slammed, driven into the turf. Anything they could dream up, and the refs didn't say shit, either.  

Edited May 16 by wood

[thunderlounge 7637]

10 hours ago, wood said:

Anything they could dream up, and the refs didn't say shit, either. 

Not 100% accurate. They did say, “welcome to the league, rookie” as they walked by and kicked him.

 

[Red Five 40373]

On 5/13/2024 at 8:55 PM, LTtxfan said:

Off-season... just stumbled on this old high school Arch clip... 

 

He's probably better there than some of our QBs from 2010 to Ehlinger. 

[Sawbonz 26871]

11 hours ago, wood said:

I remember it was rough for him too, and I don't doubt he took those shots, but I do doubt it was worse or for longer than what Aikman took. Of course there's no way to prove that, but Aikman was taking every kind of shot there is, including the kind you described, and frequently, for 3 seasons. Helmet to the head, helmet to the face, helmet in the ribs, helmet in the kidneys, late hits, side of the knees, hi-lo, body slammed, driven into the turf. Anything they could dream up, and the refs didn't say shit, either.  

Players routinely played the next week after concussions, often while still experiencing symptoms. Aikman went to the hospital after the concussion he suffered in the 93 NFC Championship and didn’t know where he was or why he was there for several hours. He has said he doesn’t remember any of the game prior to the TBI which is very bad. Said he watches it on video and it’s like watching a different person. And he started and won the Superbowl 7 days later. 
 

[Blotto 23287]

14 hours ago, Napoleon said:

I invite you to see if you can find footage of Cam Newton’s time in Carolina.

Defenders would launch themselves and spear Cam in the chin with the tops of their helmets in ways that were illegal to do against any player in any position in the NFL and refs didn’t give a shit.

I have never seen a better example of secret direction from the home office to allow opposing players to take down a player that the shit that was allowed to be done against Cam Newton. I recall a nationally televised game in the fall of 2016 or ‘17 where Newton probably received 6 or 7 headshots in a single game and not one was called. (He will absolutely develop CTE.)

Wait, is there is some tinfoil hat conspiracy I have never heard of that the league was trying to get the 2015 MVP and superbowl runner up QB knocked out of the league? Is that a thing? 

[thunderlounge 7637]

Well, we are talking about Cam Newton. 

[Jkwellborn 6595]

Wait, is there is some tinfoil hat conspiracy I have never heard of that the league was trying to get the 2015 MVP and superbowl runner up QB knocked out of the league? Is that a thing? 

Who knew Cam Newton posted here?

[futureman 22352]

On 5/9/2024 at 4:03 PM, cmontexas said:

Hell Aikman got hit so many times he retired early

that’s not why he retired. 

[Jkwellborn 6595]

that’s not why he retired. 

Lavar Arrington bent his facemask. That’s when he said fuck this, if I can remember what this is.

[futureman 22352]

he said in an interview, on the record, that he didn’t retire for health reasons.  he wasn’t having fun anymore losing games and missed the discipline that jimmy provided the team.  he didn’t like being the bad cop and didn’t enjoy the game so he quit.  he said if jimmy were still around and they were winning he’d have kept playing.  and briefly considered going to miami.  something like that.  but it wasn’t his back or the concussions, which is what everyone seems to believe. 

[Zeus 5889]

On 5/15/2024 at 7:21 PM, Napoleon said:

I invite you to see if you can find footage of Cam Newton’s time in Carolina.

Defenders would launch themselves and spear Cam in the chin with the tops of their helmets in ways that were illegal to do against any player in any position in the NFL and refs didn’t give a shit.

I have never seen a better example of secret direction from the home office to allow opposing players to take down a player that the shit that was allowed to be done against Cam Newton. I recall a nationally televised game in the fall of 2016 or ‘17 where Newton probably received 6 or 7 headshots in a single game and not one was called. (He will absolutely develop CTE.)

I think some guys are immune to CTE

[LTtxfan 48722]

Texas' Arch Manning at Manning Passing Academy - June 28, 2024

[LTtxfan 48722]

Jeff Duncan: Arch Manning is content to take the road less traveled

BY JEFF DUNCAN | Sports columnist

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The easy way out was there for Arch Manning.

When Quinn Ewers announced his intentions to bypass the NFL draft and return to the University of Texas for one more season as the Longhorns’ starting quarterback, it would have been understandable for Manning to pull the ripcord.

Most quarterbacks would have transferred to greener pastures. And no one would have thought less of Manning if he’d elected to do so.

More than 70 percent of the top 50 high school quarterbacks that signed with FBS programs in the recruiting classes of 2017 through 2020 transferred during their time in college, according to a 2023 study by The Athletic.

Manning, though, isn’t like most quarterbacks.

He’s different.

He’s a Manning, the third generation of America’s First Family of Football.

The Mannings aren’t cut-and-runners. They make a decision and stick with it.

That’s the Manning way.

The family patriarch, Archie, taught his three sons the importance of loyalty at an early age. When Cooper, Peyton and Eli committed to play college football at Ole Miss and Tennessee, Archie made them stick to their decisions.

Cooper instilled a similar sense of commitment in his son, Arch.

So it should surprise no one that the youngest Manning elected to stay at Texas and wait his turn to start after Ewers decided to return for his senior season.

That’s how the Mannings roll.

They’re not afraid to take the road less traveled.

If anyone could be prone to the trappings of impatience or entitlement, it’s Manning. After all, he was the No. 1 overall prospect in the Class of 2023. Peyton and Eli are his uncles, and Archie is his grandfather. His heritage is as gilded as any quarterback prodigy who ever played the game. From an early age, he’s been “programmed to be a quarterback,” as his grandfather, Charlie Heidingsfelder, once said.

Yet, Manning was and is perfectly content to wait his turn in Austin.

“I like the situation I'm in,” he said Friday at the Manning Passing Academy. “I like Austin. I like the school. I like the coaching staff. I like the people in the building, and it takes a while to learn everyone's name and learn the trainer's names and all the staff, so I didn't want to have to go somewhere else and have to do that again. Sometimes you got to stay patient and stay ready for your turn. I can't wait to stay there for more years and win some games.”

Manning’s selfless attitude is refreshing — and rare. There’s more pressure than ever for young athletes to produce, and our microwave society only exacerbates the problem.

And this isn’t just endemic to football.

During a session at Aspen Ideas this week in Aspen, Colo., LSU women’s basketball coach Kim Mulkey said patience, or the lack thereof, is the biggest detriment to players reaching their potential.

Trusting the process, Mulkey said, “is out the window with the transfer portal now. Kids want things today, yesterday.”

Five of the top 8 quarterbacks from Manning’s Class of 2023 have already transferred after one season at their respective original schools.

Dante Moore from UCLA to Oregon. Malachi Nelson from Southern Cal to Boise State. Jaden Rashada from Arizona State to Georgia. Aiden Chiles from Oregon State to Michigan State. And Austin Mack from Washington to Alabama.

“It’s tough, because you want to be out there playing with your boys,” Manning said. “But just realizing there's nowhere else I want to be, and it was my dream to play at Texas. I'm going to stick it out and play there eventually.”

Sometimes moving on is the right thing, as Jayden Daniels and Joe Burrow can attest.

Sometimes, too, the grass isn’t always greener on the other campus. Arch's father, Cooper Manning, said he and Arch thoroughly evaluated the situation, but transferring was never really a serious consideration.

“It’s about the overall happiness and development of your son,” he said. “If he's happy and enjoying school, enjoying his friends, enjoying the coaches, feels like he's growing and getting better, then those are checking all the boxes for why you went to the school in the first place.”

Staying and sitting isn't the easy way out. But it is the Manning Way.

It's the road less traveled. And in the end, that will make all the difference.

 

[Armybrat 40545]

Given all the hype surrounding Arch, the big move to the SEC, and the UT/aggy baseball discombobulation, I wonder if certain elements are putting him in the bullseye to deliberately target him on the field in order to shorten his season.

[LTtxfan 48722]

EXCLUSIVE: Arch Speaks at Passing Academy | Peyton, Cooper talk QBs | Texas Longhorns Football

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[Ignatius 3979]

On 5/17/2024 at 4:28 PM, futureman said:

he said in an interview, on the record, that he didn’t retire for health reasons.  he wasn’t having fun anymore losing games and missed the discipline that jimmy provided the team.  he didn’t like being the bad cop and didn’t enjoy the game so he quit.  he said if jimmy were still around and they were winning he’d have kept playing.  and briefly considered going to miami.  something like that.  but it wasn’t his back or the concussions, which is what everyone seems to believe. 

Whatever, he never said in an interview that he loved the cock either….

[thunderlounge 7637]

37 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Whatever, he never said in an interview that he loved the cock either….

We must be talking about Romo. I concur. 

[Jkwellborn 6595]

Whatever, he never said in an interview that he loved the cock either….

Easy Skip.

[tx 3 putt 75491]

 

[Jkwellborn 6595]

 

He’s probably not wrong. Unless Texas is in the playoffs, I find it hard to believe Ewers plays the bowl game.