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So at this point, I think most people agrees Arch should get more PT moving forward. I didn't see it, but apparently even Sark mentioned that he probably should have played Manning more vs. UGA. So how do we do it? 

IMO, I think it would be a savvy and smart move to give him a predetermined series in the first half, let's say the 3rd series. Whether we're up 14-0, trailing 14-0, tied, whatever, give him a full series. He is a solid running threat, but we need to let him throw the ball and make a defense play honest. 3 and out? Fine, no biggie.Turnover? Highly unlikely it's a game changer that early. Just put Quinn back in and keep Arch as a situational option. We move the ball and get a score? Now we've got options. 

I think this is the best way for Sark to get a feel on whether it's the right move or not to play him more. See how the team responds to the change/results on the field, and go from there. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

So at this point, I think most people agrees Arch should get more PT moving forward. I didn't see it, but apparently even Sark mentioned that he probably should have played Manning more vs. UGA. So how do we do it? 

 

Did he really say that? I saw where he said he's got more pt in mind for him in future games but this is the first I'm hearing regrets at not playing him more earlier.

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1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

Did he really say that? I saw where he said he's got more pt in mind for him in future games but this is the first I'm hearing regrets at not playing him more earlier.

I've seen multiple people mention he said that when being interviewed on ESPN after the playoff seeding was officially announced. Looked for it on YouTube but nothing there. 

 

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3 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

Did he really say that? I saw where he said he's got more pt in mind for him in future games but this is the first I'm hearing regrets at not playing him more earlier.

Yes, they asked about using Arch for his running ability. He said I should have probably gone to that sooner.  

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Coach is trying to avoid a QB controversy so bad that he was willing to go down with the Quinn ship in the SEC championship game or he is being pressured by the Ewers camp and/or his NIL sponsors. UGA's kryptonite is a DT QB, which is exactly what we had sitting on the bench. Also, his moxie is undeniable. The coach should have acted before he faces outside pressure and criticism instead of reacting to it.

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5 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Coach is trying to avoid a QB controversy so bad that he was willing to go down with the Quinn ship in the SEC championship game or he is being pressured by the Evers camp and/or his NIL sponsors. UGA's kryptonite is a DT QB, which is exactly what we had sitting in the bench. Also, his moxie is undeniable. The coach should have acted before he faces outside pressure and criticism instead of reacting to it.

I refuse to believe Sark is being pushed around by anyone in Ewers's camp. I have no idea who that would even be or why that kind of leverage would even exist outside of some QAnon stuff. If I was going to believe ANY outside-forces nonsense, it would be Manning's side saying, "DO NOT START HIM. HE'S NOT READY!" I imagine the Mannings have more sway than some randos from Southlake.

OR MAYBE IT'S THE REPTILIANS!

"I trust the 30+ game starter over the freshman" is not a crazy thing for a coach to think. In fact, it's the sanest way for a coach to think unless the freshman in question has been Godlike in his showings -- which Arch hasn't -- or the team is falling off a cliff and in desperate need of anything to stop the fall -- which Texas isn't.

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14 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I refuse to believe Sark is being pushed around by anyone in Ewers's camp. I have no idea who that would even be or why that kind of leverage would even exist outside of some QAnon stuff. If I was going to believe ANY outside-forces nonsense, it would be Manning's side saying, "DO NOT START HIM. HE'S NOT READY!" I imagine the Mannings have more sway than some randos from Southlake.

OR MAYBE IT'S THE REPTILIANS!

"I trust the 30+ game starter over the freshman" is not a crazy thing for a coach to think. In fact, it's the sanest way for a coach to think unless the freshman in question has been Godlike in his showings -- which Arch hasn't -- or the team is falling off a cliff and in desperate need of anything to stop the fall -- which Texas isn't.

After his two starts, Arch's dad said on TV that he was happy to see his son getting some playing time ahead of next year's game at OSU. I don't think his camp is against him getting playing time - that's just absurd.

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8 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

"I trust the 30+ game starter over the freshman" is not a crazy thing for a coach to think. In fact, it's the sanest way for a coach to think unless the freshman in question has been Godlike in his showings -- which Arch hasn't -- or the team is falling off a cliff and in desperate need of anything to stop the fall -- which Texas isn't.

Agreed. For as much as I think Arch would ignite this offense, Sark's succession plan and sticking with Ewers has been a wise decision long term. We won 11 games and have a favorable playoff setup. Broad view, mission accomplished.

But when you get to the actual results on the field and finer details (and the desire to win a National Championship), it legitimately makes sense to play Arch more. There is no QB job to win or lose at this point. The offense has sputtered for quite a while outside of the Florida game. The game of worrying about egos or a controversy should be over now that we are in elimination mode. 

Maybe bringing in Arch for a series lights a fire under Ewers. And then we ride with Quinn to victory. I really don't care how we get there, but the offense needs to wake up and play with confidence/swagger to make a legitimate run at the title. It's worth toying with, IMO.  

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34 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Agreed. For as much as I think Arch would ignite this offense, Sark's succession plan and sticking with Ewers has been a wise decision long term. We won 11 games and have a favorable playoff setup. Broad view, mission accomplished.

But when you get to the actual results on the field and finer details (and the desire to win a National Championship), it legitimately makes sense to play Arch more. There is no QB job to win or lose at this point. The offense has sputtered for quite a while outside of the Florida game. The game of worrying about egos or a controversy should be over now that we are in elimination mode. 

Maybe bringing in Arch for a series lights a fire under Ewers. And then we ride with Quinn to victory. I really don't care how we get there, but the offense needs to wake up and play with confidence/swagger to make a legitimate run at the title. It's worth toying with, IMO.  

Elimination Mode ftw. The SEC CCG fiasco kept us out of a decent band name for quite a while. Thanks, Hank.

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9 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

So at this point, I think most people agrees Arch should get more PT moving forward. I didn't see it, but apparently even Sark mentioned that he probably should have played Manning more vs. UGA. So how do we do it? 

IMO, I think it would be a savvy and smart move to give him a predetermined series in the first half, let's say the 3rd series. Whether we're up 14-0, trailing 14-0, tied, whatever, give him a full series. He is a solid running threat, but we need to let him throw the ball and make a defense play honest. 3 and out? Fine, no biggie.Turnover? Highly unlikely it's a game changer that early. Just put Quinn back in and keep Arch as a situational option. We move the ball and get a score? Now we've got options. 

I think this is the best way for Sark to get a feel on whether it's the right move or not to play him more. See how the team responds to the change/results on the field, and go from there. 

 

Here's the thing, and I'm sober...

Maybe what the team needs is a QB who can go out and make the passes. He's been the in system for damn near 2 years. Ewers is obviously struggling; does that mean we give up on Ewers? Of course not. What that means is Arch is an intelligent kid. He knows the playbook. He's literally 1 year behind Ewers. Not much separation there. He's also a big bodied dual threat who can take punishment if needed. His arm is better, but does that mean he's going to make all of the throws? Of course not. But he can't do any worse.

At this point I'm for whomever. But this shit not using Arch when he's a RS-frosh and has been riding the pine while we can't seem to make a TD to save our lives might be something Sark should look into. You know, like that one play where he scored on aggy and then promptly sat him back on the bench. 

How the fuck is the kid going to learn by riding the pine when our second game next season is against baby eater Ryan Day? Sark has had all God damn season to use Arch in a myriad of ways, and now he's scratching his thinning hair and saying "You know what? Maybe the media is on to something? Maybe I should get this kid ready?" It's fucking stupid at how stubborn he is and gets in his own way. 

BTW, this isn't directed at you, it's just speaking in general. 

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11 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

Coach is trying to avoid a QB controversy so bad that he was willing to go down with the Quinn ship in the SEC championship game or he is being pressured by the Ewers camp and/or his NIL sponsors. UGA's kryptonite is a DT QB, which is exactly what we had sitting on the bench. Also, his moxie is undeniable. The coach should have acted before he faces outside pressure and criticism instead of reacting to it.

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4 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:


Yall keep saying that. How many times has Sark had the opportunity to sit Ewers for a qb that may be more successful/less error prone during a game and stuck with him. 3 or 4. He doesn’t want a controversy or the issues that come with it. Or he doesn’t wanna piss someone off.

The conspiracy angle is certainly more fun than him (right or wrong) just not thinking Arch is ready right now.

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"Cracker Crutches" would be, what - Blue Grass, Pop Country, Southern Rock, or...?

On the other hand, it might not be a band at all. 

I'm thinking of a modern-day replacement for, or continuation of, Hee Haw. Who doesn't like scantily clad, busty young women. If Sports Illustrated could be brought in as a sponsor,  you might could add a transgender person or two.

 

 

 

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"Cracker Crutches" would be, what - Blue Grass, Pop Country, Southern Rock, or...?

A mix between hip-hop and polka. It's on the up and up. 

12 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I think we should play Arch 100% of the time in the red zone. Also probably once we pass the 50. And generally when we're on the other side of the field too. 

/kiddingsortof

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and agree with you here. It can't hurt, fuck it, why not?

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5 hours ago, troph said:

Thank god we are in the playoff era. Week one doesn’t look so do or die. 

I remember the last time tOSU came to Austin.  I was there with my 10yo daughter, in my 2nd year of season tickets - yes my 1st was 2005.  Dumb luck. 

I don't remember our team being there all that much though.  Hopefully I don't remember this next game for the same reason.

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17 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Here's the thing, and I'm sober...

Maybe what the team needs is a QB who can go out and make the passes. He's been the in system for damn near 2 years. Ewers is obviously struggling; does that mean we give up on Ewers? Of course not. What that means is Arch is an intelligent kid. He knows the playbook. He's literally 1 year behind Ewers. Not much separation there. He's also a big bodied dual threat who can take punishment if needed. His arm is better, but does that mean he's going to make all of the throws? Of course not. But he can't do any worse.

At this point I'm for whomever. But this shit not using Arch when he's a RS-frosh and has been riding the pine while we can't seem to make a TD to save our lives might be something Sark should look into. You know, like that one play where he scored on aggy and then promptly sat him back on the bench. 

How the fuck is the kid going to learn by riding the pine when our second game next season is against baby eater Ryan Day? Sark has had all God damn season to use Arch in a myriad of ways, and now he's scratching his thinning hair and saying "You know what? Maybe the media is on to something? Maybe I should get this kid ready?" It's fucking stupid at how stubborn he is and gets in his own way. 

BTW, this isn't directed at you, it's just speaking in general. 

That's where I was out.

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No one is expecting Arch to sling it. Everyone knows that when he comes in, it's more than likely a run.  

You're wrong. It's exactly what they expect, and it's what he'll do. Whether it works or not is another question.

On the other hand, Iocane is a powerful drug, so it remains to be seen. 1st and 10 in the Red Zone has much in common with Asian land wars, as we have been seeing lately.

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28 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

You're wrong. It's exactly what they expect, and it's what he'll do. Whether it works or not is another question.

On the other hand, Iocane is a powerful drug, so it remains to be seen. 1st and 10 in the Red Zone has much in common with Asian land wars, as we have been seeing lately.

He's a big kid. 6'4 230. He can take the punishment. Not consistently like Sam, but the kid is no pushover. Plus he can throw it accurately, so run or pass, we have it covered. Quinn can't run, and his screen game is pretty good, but that's about where it stops. 

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2 hours ago, Horn Dogg said:

Rumor is they are portal shopping for a QB.  

So dumb. Do they think Sayin is just going to sit there while they keep looking for portal QBs? That kid is ridiculously talented. If Day were smart (which he isn't), they would let the kid take his lumps and improve. 

Bobby said that had we not gotten Arch, we were getting Sayin, and that kid can ball. At least he's not with Bama anymore. Their approach to portal QBs is reaching idiotic levels, and I'm here for it. 

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