Texas Women’s Basketball 2023-2024: Handing out ass whoopins and lollipops, and we’re all out of lollipops

[dcar00 14997]

beat them after the initial 5-6 minute clusterfuck.

no harmon and jones just too much to overcome.  gaston needs to be able to get back soon.

Baylor is only winning because we are down 2.5 starters basically.

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

Got in too big of a hole at the beginning of the game, just getting our feet back under us after a big hit. 
Those free throw misses really hurt.

[Js1 87289]

It was the worst timed game, just a few days after Rori. In hindsight, we should have skipped having a game this week with the Big 12 opener being today. 

[dcar00 14997]

this doesn't mean shit for Baylor you dumbass...

[perfectchaos007 6780]

Wire to wire win for Baylor. 

[perfectchaos007 6780]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It was the worst timed game, just a few days after Rori. In hindsight, we should have skipped having a game this week with the Big 12 opener being today. 

Agreed. We were one of just 3 D1 teams in the country that played on Dec. 27th. Bad things happen when you rush coming back that fast from Christmas break.

[Rickylovesweed 15570]

Get Jones back healthy and this team can still win a couple games in the tournament. But damn just a gut punch without Harmon because you know this team could compete for a title with her. 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

With even just Jones in this game I think we win. 

[Pancho 46372]

Thought the team did well in regrouping after that first quarter. It’s the first game after the Rori news so I imagine the team had so many emotions. I’m going to think positive and believe Vic and staff will adjust and we will be fine. I don’t think we are in line for a FF anymore but 2nd weekend would be good

[ztejas 44286]

One more unless Texas sees them in the B12 tourney.

Really need to beat the WaCunts on the way out. They've owned Texas for too long...

[Rickylovesweed 15570]

6 minutes ago, TommysTinyTowels said:

With even just Jones in this game I think we win. 

Just shows you how good this team could be if healthy. 

Right in the game with a top 10 team down our leading scorer (Jones) and the best two way guard in the country (Harmon). Frustrating to say the least. 

[Pato del Muerto 53603]

Is it still a full double round Robin?

[Js1 87289]

14 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Is it still a full double round Robin?

Nope. But we do play a few teams twice, including Baylor. It’s an unbalanced schedule 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Thought the team did well in regrouping after that first quarter. It’s the first game after the Rori news so I imagine the team had so many emotions. I’m going to think positive and believe Vic and staff will adjust and we will be fine. I don’t think we are in line for a FF anymore but 2nd weekend would be good

Yes to all this. Still going to be a fun year, just need to dial back the expectations a notch.

 

[86txex 179]

The amount of love Vic has for his players, especially Rori, is wonderful and heartening to see in an age when college coaches can be all about themselves. Watching him grapple with the whys of life is gut-wrenching. 

[Js1 87289]

Dropped to 10th

[Rickylovesweed 15570]

We're still number 3 in NET. 

The key for this team without Harmon is hosting those first 2 NCAA tournament games at home. We need to find a way to stay in the top 16 seeds. 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

#10 Texas (13-1, 0-1 Big 12) vs. Texas Tech (12-2, 1-0 Big 12)
Wednesday, Jan. 3 at 6:00 PM CT
United Supermarkets Arena | Lubbock, Texas

TELEVISION: The game will be broadcast on ESPN+. Ron Thulin (pxp) and Brandi Poole (analyst) will call the action.
RADIO: All women's basketball games will air in Austin on 103.1 FM, along with the web streams on TexasSports.com and the Longhorn App. Craig Way will call the action.

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Texas Tech beat Houston 79-71 in the team's last outing on Saturday, led by Jada Wynn's team-high 23 points.
Booker's team-leading 25 points, 8 assists and 7 rebounds weren't enough in Texas' 85-79 loss to Baylor on Saturday in their most recent outing.

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Texas Tech Players to Watch
Bailey Maupin is Texas Tech's leading scorer, averaging 15.6 points a contest, and best passer with 3.9 assists per game. Jasmine Shavers adds 14.9 points, 5.3 rebounds and 1.8 steals for the Red Raiders, and Kilah Freelon contributes 9.9 points and 6.6 rebounds per game.
Texas Tech's three-point shooting efforts are led by Maupin, who averages 1.6 made three-pointers per game while hitting 32 percent of her shots from downtown. They are coached by Krista Gerlich who is a piece of shit.

________________________________________________________________________________________________

Texas Tech Regular Season

vsUT Rio Grande               W95-53

vsTarleton St                     W70-63

vsLamar                            W61-44

vsTexas A&M-Comm       W91-45

vsUTSA                             W63-58

vsRutgers                         W79-72

vsSanta Clara                  W61-56

vsUC Irvine                     W60-54

vsHou Christian             W79-34

vsSam Houston             W93-60

vsIncarnate Word         W76-35

vsTulsa                         L66-58

vsOregon St                L77-65

@Houston                  W79-71

 

[86txex 179]

Still no Taylor for tomorrow’s game. Vic seems a bit miffed about it.

[Js1 87289]

Might be time to decide if Zack Zillner is the right choice to continue to lead our S&C.  So many fucking injuries. 

[Rickylovesweed 15570]

52 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Might be time to decide if Zack Zillner is the right choice to continue to lead our S&C.  So many fucking injuries. 

Yeah, they need to figure out the injury problem. It's the only thing holding this program back. Some of it's bad luck but there are too many injuries. 

[Js1 87289]

4 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Yeah, they need to figure out the injury problem. It's the only thing holding this program back. Some of it's bad luck but there are too many injuries. 

Morris last year was just bad luck. But Jones, Gaston, Harmon twice, Moore. 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

"With injuries mounting in women’s programs, experts note there are number of factors in play, including the specialization of sports at a younger age, and longer recovery times contributing to those thin benches.
Whatever the reasons, the search for solutions is always on.
At UConn, just two players have been available for every game. Coaches have burned sage in the locker room, brought holy water to practice and had Native American dancers perform healing rituals."
"kids are specializing in one sport earlier and playing that sport year-round. They’re not getting a chance to rest their bodies,” she said. “You’re putting the same amount of mileage on the same body parts, over and over again.
So, now you get these kids who are in college, but their bodies are such that it’s almost like they’ve been playing professional ball for 10 years because that’s all they’ve been doing.
Auriemma said coaches have already cut back on the length, number and intensity of practices on the advice of medical staff, sometimes to the detriment of play. "

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/national/story/2023-01-18/just-weird-rash-of-injuries-hits-womens-college-hoops

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I'm sure there are a number of factors contributing to the problem, and Zack may not be the guy going forward.
But another issue might be Vic's "I'll rest when I'm dead" and saying people make too much of playing an athlete 40 minutes a game.
Not saying it's Vic's fault, just that I think women's sports are intensifying, and we may be learning that how we treat female athletes should be different than how we treat men.
Load management may be found to be more important in women's sports, due to a difference in body conformation.

 

 

 

 

[86txex 179]

41 minutes ago, TommysTinyTowels said:

"With injuries mounting in women’s programs, experts note there are number of factors in play, including the specialization of sports at a younger age, and longer recovery times contributing to those thin benches.
Whatever the reasons, the search for solutions is always on.
At UConn, just two players have been available for every game. Coaches have burned sage in the locker room, brought holy water to practice and had Native American dancers perform healing rituals."
"kids are specializing in one sport earlier and playing that sport year-round. They’re not getting a chance to rest their bodies,” she said. “You’re putting the same amount of mileage on the same body parts, over and over again.
So, now you get these kids who are in college, but their bodies are such that it’s almost like they’ve been playing professional ball for 10 years because that’s all they’ve been doing.
Auriemma said coaches have already cut back on the length, number and intensity of practices on the advice of medical staff, sometimes to the detriment of play. "

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/national/story/2023-01-18/just-weird-rash-of-injuries-hits-womens-college-hoops

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I'm sure there are a number of factors contributing to the problem, and Zack may not be the guy going forward.
But another issue might be Vic's "I'll rest when I'm dead" and saying people make too much of playing an athlete 40 minutes a game.
Not saying it's Vic's fault, just that I think women's sports are intensifying, and we may be learning that how we treat female athletes should be different than how we treat men.
Load management may be found to be more important in women's sports, due to a difference in body conformation.

 

 

 

 

Vic has been consistent throughout his coaching career with being demanding and having no problem playing players 40 minutes. He has said he’s never had the number of injuries like last year and now, soI don’t think it’s his coaching philosophy that needs changing as many coaches ride their players hard.

As others have alluded to, I think the problem is with strength and conditioning. Zillner was a holdover from Aston’s staff; I was always surprised Vic didn’t bring in his own person for such a pivotal position.

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

On 12/10/2023 at 3:31 PM, Js1 said:

 Feel like all we hear is someone in WBB who tore their ACL

Just our players I can remember:

Kyndall Hunter - torn ACL at A&M
Latasha Lattimore - torn ACL at Florida
Shaylee Gonzales - torn ACL at BYU
Aaliyah Moore - torn ACL at Texas
Rori Harmon - torn ACL at Texas
Jordana Codio - torn ACL 2x in High School
Gisella Maul - torn ACL at an AAU tournament
Lashann Higgs - torn ACL at Texas
Kyra Lambert - torn ACL at Duke

 

[86txex 179]

Just now, TommysTinyTowels said:

Just our players I can remember:

Kyndall Hunter - torn ACL at A&M
Latasha Lattimore - torn ACL at Florida
Shaylee Gonzales - torn ACL at BYU
Aaliyah Moore - torn ACL at Texas
Rori Harmon - torn ACL at Texas
Jordana Codio - torn ACL 2x in High School
Gisella Maul - torn ACL at an AAU tournament
Lashann Higgs - torn ACL at Texas
Kyra Lambert - torn ACL at Duke

 

2024 signee Justice Carlton tore her ACL in July while playing AAU. She's already playing again for her high school which seems crazy it only took her six months to get back. Maybe Vic should hire her strength coach. 

[torre 1298]

Good conversation above sent me to Google.   Johns Hopkins article on the ACL and female athletes.   Entire article worth a read. 

Excerpt:

The structure of the knee joint in women plays a big role in putting them at a higher risk for an ACL tear. Women’s joints — including the knee — generally have more looseness and range of motion than men’s. Women also often have less muscle mass around the knee, contributing to more instability, which can lead to a ligament tear if the ligament gets overstretched.

Technique differences also play a role. When coming down from a jump, female athletes tend to land in a collapsing pattern, moving their knees inward and often not bending them enough. The combination of these factors makes an ACL tear more likely.

What can female athletes do to prevent ACL tears?

Sports injuries are always a possibility, even if you do everything right. But there are steps you can take to minimize risk factors related to your technique, training and lifestyle. The following recommendations are all equally important in preventing ACL tears and other sports injuries:

Practice good technique. While not a guarantee, proper technique when training and playing a sport can help ward off sports injuries. Work with your coach and/or your sports physical therapist to identify improper form and correct it.

Avoid working out while overly fatigued. When you’re tired, it’s easier to make mistakes or forget about good technique. Getting enough sleep and stopping a workout before exhaustion sets in help to prevent injury.

Work to develop muscle groups evenly. Core and extremity strength are equally important. Focusing on one while ignoring the other increases your risk of injury.

Create a balance between strength and flexibility. Both tight and overstretched muscles are more prone to injury. Working on strength and flexibility in moderation is key.

Eat a balanced diet. Poor nutrition leads to decreased strength, endurance and attention. Eating well can help improve your focus and performance.

 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/acl-injury-or-tear/acl-tears-in-female-athletes-qa-with-a-sports-medicine-expert

 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

1 hour ago, torre said:

Good conversation above sent me to Google.   Johns Hopkins article on the ACL and female athletes.   Entire article worth a read. 

Excerpt:

The structure of the knee joint in women plays a big role in putting them at a higher risk for an ACL tear. Women’s joints — including the knee — generally have more looseness and range of motion than men’s. Women also often have less muscle mass around the knee, contributing to more instability, which can lead to a ligament tear if the ligament gets overstretched.

Technique differences also play a role. When coming down from a jump, female athletes tend to land in a collapsing pattern, moving their knees inward and often not bending them enough. The combination of these factors makes an ACL tear more likely.

What can female athletes do to prevent ACL tears?

Sports injuries are always a possibility, even if you do everything right. But there are steps you can take to minimize risk factors related to your technique, training and lifestyle. The following recommendations are all equally important in preventing ACL tears and other sports injuries:

Practice good technique. While not a guarantee, proper technique when training and playing a sport can help ward off sports injuries. Work with your coach and/or your sports physical therapist to identify improper form and correct it.

Avoid working out while overly fatigued. When you’re tired, it’s easier to make mistakes or forget about good technique. Getting enough sleep and stopping a workout before exhaustion sets in help to prevent injury.

Work to develop muscle groups evenly. Core and extremity strength are equally important. Focusing on one while ignoring the other increases your risk of injury.

Create a balance between strength and flexibility. Both tight and overstretched muscles are more prone to injury. Working on strength and flexibility in moderation is key.

Eat a balanced diet. Poor nutrition leads to decreased strength, endurance and attention. Eating well can help improve your focus and performance.

 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/acl-injury-or-tear/acl-tears-in-female-athletes-qa-with-a-sports-medicine-expert

 

Great article, thanks for sending that.

[86txex 179]

1 hour ago, torre said:

Good conversation above sent me to Google.   Johns Hopkins article on the ACL and female athletes.   Entire article worth a read. 

Excerpt:

The structure of the knee joint in women plays a big role in putting them at a higher risk for an ACL tear. Women’s joints — including the knee — generally have more looseness and range of motion than men’s. Women also often have less muscle mass around the knee, contributing to more instability, which can lead to a ligament tear if the ligament gets overstretched.

Technique differences also play a role. When coming down from a jump, female athletes tend to land in a collapsing pattern, moving their knees inward and often not bending them enough. The combination of these factors makes an ACL tear more likely.

What can female athletes do to prevent ACL tears?

Sports injuries are always a possibility, even if you do everything right. But there are steps you can take to minimize risk factors related to your technique, training and lifestyle. The following recommendations are all equally important in preventing ACL tears and other sports injuries:

Practice good technique. While not a guarantee, proper technique when training and playing a sport can help ward off sports injuries. Work with your coach and/or your sports physical therapist to identify improper form and correct it.

Avoid working out while overly fatigued. When you’re tired, it’s easier to make mistakes or forget about good technique. Getting enough sleep and stopping a workout before exhaustion sets in help to prevent injury.

Work to develop muscle groups evenly. Core and extremity strength are equally important. Focusing on one while ignoring the other increases your risk of injury.

Create a balance between strength and flexibility. Both tight and overstretched muscles are more prone to injury. Working on strength and flexibility in moderation is key.

Eat a balanced diet. Poor nutrition leads to decreased strength, endurance and attention. Eating well can help improve your focus and performance.

 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/acl-injury-or-tear/acl-tears-in-female-athletes-qa-with-a-sports-medicine-expert

 

Very informative article. Thanks for sharing it. Many of those items listed have to do with strength and conditioning, as you might expect. Here’s hoping for no more injuries this season.

[Hard Times 323]

1 hour ago, torre said:

Good conversation above sent me to Google.   Johns Hopkins article on the ACL and female athletes.   Entire article worth a read. 

Excerpt:

The structure of the knee joint in women plays a big role in putting them at a higher risk for an ACL tear. Women’s joints — including the knee — generally have more looseness and range of motion than men’s. Women also often have less muscle mass around the knee, contributing to more instability, which can lead to a ligament tear if the ligament gets overstretched.

Technique differences also play a role. When coming down from a jump, female athletes tend to land in a collapsing pattern, moving their knees inward and often not bending them enough. The combination of these factors makes an ACL tear more likely.

What can female athletes do to prevent ACL tears?

Sports injuries are always a possibility, even if you do everything right. But there are steps you can take to minimize risk factors related to your technique, training and lifestyle. The following recommendations are all equally important in preventing ACL tears and other sports injuries:

Practice good technique. While not a guarantee, proper technique when training and playing a sport can help ward off sports injuries. Work with your coach and/or your sports physical therapist to identify improper form and correct it.

Avoid working out while overly fatigued. When you’re tired, it’s easier to make mistakes or forget about good technique. Getting enough sleep and stopping a workout before exhaustion sets in help to prevent injury.

Work to develop muscle groups evenly. Core and extremity strength are equally important. Focusing on one while ignoring the other increases your risk of injury.

Create a balance between strength and flexibility. Both tight and overstretched muscles are more prone to injury. Working on strength and flexibility in moderation is key.

Eat a balanced diet. Poor nutrition leads to decreased strength, endurance and attention. Eating well can help improve your focus and performance.

 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/acl-injury-or-tear/acl-tears-in-female-athletes-qa-with-a-sports-medicine-expert

 

That's interesting. Perhaps they should always be wearing knee braces, albeit smaller, less restrictive ones.

[Gut Wagon 8219]

Good start. Dominating the glass and making shots. 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

Three seconds, give me a break

[Js1 87289]

They’re RAVING about Booker. She’s so special 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

Madi showing some enthusiasm!

Getting comfortable in her role.

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

Both teams with 2 points this quarter

[Rickylovesweed 15570]

I hope Rori gets a RS because if we get 2 more years of Rori and Booker together I say we have a great shot to win a title. 

Both will be top 10 players next year. Booker is legitimately that good. 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

brandi poole ex Texas Tech coach calling the game....

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

Hell yes Gisella!

[Js1 87289]

17 point halftime lead 

[Gut Wagon 8219]

Fantastic play to cap off a sleepwalking quarter. 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

Typical Tech game, lots of fouls, game feels like were playing in mud.

9 of their 23 points from the line.

Amina not much of a factor and Shaylee only 4 points.

1 for 6 from three.

Out rebounding them 20 to 10

[Rickylovesweed 15570]

This season is going to make me sick knowing what we could have been with Rori. 

[Gut Wagon 8219]

As badly as the TV crew wants to push Tech, it's really just not there. We're wearing them out. 

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

AMo looking good. 12 points and 8 boards.

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

Booker's third foul

[TommysTinyTowels 828]

These announcers are really Tech biased. Jesus

[Fuga 182]

Booker is a Mechanical Engineering major FFS.

Has Harmon had surgery?

 

[Gut Wagon 8219]

2 minutes ago, TommysTinyTowels said:

These announcers are really Tech biased. Jesus

Gen. Yormark wouldn't have it any other way 

[Rickylovesweed 15570]

Year 4 of Gerlich and down 26 at home to a Texas team missing their top 2 players to injury. 

She's way more talk than actual winning.  This is embarrassing. 

[Js1 87289]

4 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Year 4 of Gerlich and down 26 at home to a Texas team missing their top 2 players to injury. 

She's way more talk than actual winning.  This is embarrassing. 

And a big donut from Amina