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Yormarks reception today, and the absolute refusal by all of us in attendance to let up, will be one of the memories this 50+ year Longhorn fan will take happily to his grave…

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I like the thread, and the basic idea of it.    One clarification- Yormark and Weiser did not create the animosity to Texas, the obvious desire in the league office to hinder Texas. They merely re

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On 2/13/2024 at 9:40 PM, Napoleon said:

Who are Texas’ TOP 5 Rivalries?

1) OU

2) Arkansas

3) A&M (I guess)

4) SMU ?

5) Rice / Baylor ?

I’m stumped after the Top 3, because Kansas has only been basketball, TCU doesn’t register, Nebraska was only for about 15 to 20 years, and it was really one-sided, but it did also encompass women’s volleyball. LSU has never been what it could be.

Just wondering who makes the TOP FIVE.

 

This is late + long, so I’ll spoiler for those uninterested.

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As always, I’m late, but you and BO&W are absolutely correct, my Argentine amigo—there are only three true rivals. My comment was more about where Tech is in the hierarchy (vs where they think they are). So, if I had to choose from all of the historical football matchups, there are others that I would put ahead of them at #4 and #5. As somebody mentioned, I see Rice as a rival from a historical POV (and a family bias). Kennedy’s famous reference lends credence to that notion. Granted, it’s more of a tradition. I’m probably in the minority, but that’s honestly the only in-state game I’d hate to see disappear from the schedule completely.

Other than that, among in-state opponents, TCU, Baylor, and SMU (another family bias, I’d like to see this rekindled) all boast older matchups, more meetings (SMU tied, I think, despite a ~30 year hiatus), and a higher winning percentage than Tech. None of them are true rivals in a competitive balance sense. My point was—in terms of “historic rivalries” that should be respected, other schools have as many qualifying merits, if not more, than Tech does (though there is a TTU/UT trophy involved, apparently). It’s also related to something Bobby touched on recently about Tech and Baylor’s B12 membership being more about political pull than actual merit. In truth, I don’t respect Tech enough as an institution or a football program (I respected the pirate…more than they did, ultimately) to ever even consider them a rival at anything other than hot coeds (that one is very competitive).

My view of Nebraska is colored by the great moments that matchup produced (Tech has definitely produced its fair share, as well), and the respect I had for their program, over that brief period. The first B12 Championship, the standing ovation, Jamaal’s massive 4th quarter, etc. I was also in attendance for the cold, snowy ‘06 game in Lincoln that Texas won on a last second FG, and for the ‘09 B12 Championship in Arlington, so my view is warped. Furthermore, in the decade following that game, Texas and Nebraska were a (ghastly) mirror image of each other, and it certainly seemed as if they were in an epic struggle to determine who could capture the award for most spectacular clusterfuck. That 2010 game, in particular, was quite possibly the fiercest battle of ineptitude ever. Regardless of the record, the Huskers were always a formidable opponent for the Longhorns. Even when they didn’t actually play and the only competition was who could shoot themselves in the dick the most, it was hotly contested.

Needless to say, it will be great to have the three real rivalry games back. You’re right about LSU, though. Hopefully, that changes. 

Btw, this is what I was looking at for records (I think it’s accurate, but the first meeting dates are incorrect):

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56 minutes ago, SamMan said:

This is late + long, so I’ll spoiler for those uninterested.

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As always, I’m late, but you and BO&W are absolutely correct, my Argentine amigo—there are only three true rivals. My comment was more about where Tech is in the hierarchy (vs where they think they are). So, if I had to choose from all of the historical football matchups, there are others that I would put ahead of them at #4 and #5. As somebody mentioned, I see Rice as a rival from a historical POV (and a family bias). Kennedy’s famous reference lends credence to that notion. Granted, it’s more of a tradition. I’m probably in the minority, but that’s honestly the only in-state game I’d hate to see disappear from the schedule completely.

Other than that, among in-state opponents, TCU, Baylor, and SMU (another family bias, I’d like to see this rekindled) all boast older matchups, more meetings (SMU tied, I think, despite a ~30 year hiatus), and a higher winning percentage than Tech. None of them are true rivals in a competitive balance sense. My point was—in terms of “historic rivalries” that should be respected, other schools have as many qualifying merits, if not more, than Tech does (though there is a TTU/UT trophy involved, apparently). It’s also related to something Bobby touched on recently about Tech and Baylor’s B12 membership being more about political pull than actual merit. In truth, I don’t respect Tech enough as an institution or a football program (I respected the pirate…more than they did, ultimately) to ever even consider them a rival at anything other than hot coeds (that one is very competitive).

My view of Nebraska is colored by the great moments that matchup produced (Tech has definitely produced its fair share, as well), and the respect I had for their program, over that brief period. The first B12 Championship, the standing ovation, Jamaal’s massive 4th quarter, etc. I was also in attendance for the cold, snowy ‘06 game in Lincoln that Texas won on a last second FG, and for the ‘09 B12 Championship in Arlington, so my view is warped. Furthermore, in the decade following that game, Texas and Nebraska were a (ghastly) mirror image of each other, and it certainly seemed as if they were in an epic struggle to determine who could capture the award for most spectacular clusterfuck. That 2010 game, in particular, was quite possibly the fiercest battle of ineptitude ever. Regardless of the record, the Huskers were always a formidable opponent for the Longhorns. Even when they didn’t actually play and the only competition was who could shoot themselves in the dick the most, it was hotly contested.

Needless to say, it will be great to have the three real rivalry games back. You’re right about LSU, though. Hopefully, that changes. 

Btw, this is what I was looking at for records (I think it’s accurate, but the first meeting dates are incorrect):

IMG_0619.thumb.jpeg.457d8f01d186565e2f028d2e40c0edd0.jpeg


 

Those records are incomplete. Winspedia has the real records. Baylor is our 3rd most played game and hopefully in 35 years if we go back to playing Arkansas annually and can play Rice 16 times, they’ll move down to 5th.

HEAD-TO-HEAD RECORDS

Oklahoma 63-51-5

Texas A&M 76-37-5

Baylor 81-28-4

Rice 75-21-1

TCU 65-28-1

Arkansas 56-23-0

Texas Tech 55-18-0

SMU 47-22-4

Oklahoma State 27-11-0

Houston 17-7-2

Missouri 18-6-0

Kansas State 14-10-0

Southwestern (TX) 20-2-0

Kansas 18-4-0

Iowa State 16-5-0

Tulane 17-1-1

Colorado 12-7-0

LSU 9-8-1

Nebraska 10-4-0

West Virginia 6-6-0

Vanderbilt 3-8-1

Notre Dame 3-9-0

Haskell Indian Nations (KS) 6-5-0

Alabama 8-2-1

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Lot of interesting stuff here…

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-college-sports-at-key-juncture-what-does-the-future-of-the-ncaa-tournament-and-cfp-look-like-164559682.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAjEfjbhrW6oNFE287WJ-L9PHdAM840QzHr5blhys9fSoBWPqXNfHwnuTdoHV2AbVg4a7lzu6Tr79Yi_fRVPs34nbTWZZMWI3xmsghHWFvMT5pVxDK9BMpC5GJwbwf4lWKwTisHe3gJdFx5Pp-W8JyxZPHQ8ke3qASxl_cIjdVlk
 

…and one funny thing. 2024 B12 media days are to be in Las Vegas. 

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Those records are incomplete. Winspedia has the real records. Baylor is our 3rd most played game and hopefully in 35 years if we go back to playing Arkansas annually and can play Rice 16 times, they’ll move down to 5th.

HEAD-TO-HEAD RECORDS

Oklahoma 63-51-5

Texas A&M 76-37-5

Baylor 81-28-4

Rice 75-21-1

TCU 65-28-1

Arkansas 56-23-0

Texas Tech 55-18-0

SMU 47-22-4

Oklahoma State 27-11-0

Houston 17-7-2

Missouri 18-6-0

Kansas State 14-10-0

Southwestern (TX) 20-2-0

Kansas 18-4-0

Iowa State 16-5-0

Tulane 17-1-1

Colorado 12-7-0

LSU 9-8-1

Nebraska 10-4-0

West Virginia 6-6-0

Vanderbilt 3-8-1

Notre Dame 3-9-0

Haskell Indian Nations (KS) 6-5-0

Alabama 8-2-1

Who the hell are the Haskell Indian Nations and who had them on the top 5 winning percentage against Texas bingo card

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Well it would be but considering the current landscape we find ourselves in, I have strong reservations about bingo cards.  Or any other gambling for that matter, in the the state of Texas and its flagcanoe.  Or ship.  

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On 2/15/2024 at 7:22 PM, YGIFS said:

(a few years ago), "Mr. Yormark.  The committee has charged me with hiring you to maintain the Big XII, perhaps even expand it.  We need new TV deals, exciting rivalries, more national presence, and high-level scheduling.  And of course, it goes without saying, keep our top tiered programs like Texas and Oklahoma within the league for years to come..."
 

Steve, "Best I can do is Abilene Christian at Texas Tech in 2024."

-Now that's just a straight-shooter with upper level management written all over him...

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12 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

It's time to give the Commodores some fucking payback!!!

That record will be posted in every article and stated in all dialogue leading up to that game during the week and in the pregame. You just know it will be thrown out there mostly without context. When is the last time we played them? In the 1920’s?

12 hours ago, statsman said:

Lot of interesting stuff here…

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-college-sports-at-key-juncture-what-does-the-future-of-the-ncaa-tournament-and-cfp-look-like-164559682.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAjEfjbhrW6oNFE287WJ-L9PHdAM840QzHr5blhys9fSoBWPqXNfHwnuTdoHV2AbVg4a7lzu6Tr79Yi_fRVPs34nbTWZZMWI3xmsghHWFvMT5pVxDK9BMpC5GJwbwf4lWKwTisHe3gJdFx5Pp-W8JyxZPHQ8ke3qASxl_cIjdVlk
 

…and one funny thing. 2024 B12 media days are to be in Las Vegas. 

Well, those media days will be well-attended. 

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“If Tony and Greg want to go into a deeper think tank with their key stakeholders about the future of collegiate athletics, there’s no pride of authorship here as long as that communication continues at the rate it’s been,” Yormark said. “I really don’t think about this as an opportunity for them to move in a different direction.”

“Life's but a walking shadow. A poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.”

 
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1 hour ago, MotownHorn said:

Apparently it's still around today! Maybe we should schedule them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_Indian_Nations_University

According to SRCFB,  In addition to the Haskell Indian Nations (#79),  we have a losing record to the following schools since 1902: (Total games, Wins, Loses, - our winning percentage against school in column X:)

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/texas/head-to-head.html

 

        T W L   X      
80 UCLA 1970 2014 7 3 4 0 .429 160 216 -56 22.9 30.9 -8.0
81 Penn State 1971 1996 5 2 3 0 .400 78 100 -22 15.6 20.0 -4.4
82 Brigham Young 1987 2023 6 2 4 0 .333 103 172 -69 17.2 28.7 -11.5
83 Southern California 1955 2018 7 2 5 0 .286 148 169 -21 21.1 24.1 -3.0
84 Notre Dame 1913 2016 12 3 9 0 .250 170 353 -183 14.2 29.4 -15.3
85 Vanderbilt 1903 1928 10 2 7 1 .250 62 163 -101 6.2 16.3 -10.1
86 Syracuse 1959 1993 3 0 2 1 .167 56 75 -19 18.7 25.0 -6.3
87 Air Force 1985 1985 1 0 1 0 .000 16 24 -8 16.0 24.0 -8.0
88 Chicago 1904 1904 1 0 1 0 .000 0 68 -68 0.0 68.0 -68.0
89 Colorado College 1908 1908 1 0 1 0 .000 0 15 -15 0.0 15.0 -15.0
90 Harvard 1931 1931 1 0 1 0 .000 7 35 -28 7.0 35.0 -28.0
91 Minnesota 1936 1936 1 0 1 0 .000 19 47 -28 19.0 47.0 -28.0
92 North Carolina State 1999 1999 1 0 1 0 .000 20 23 -3 20.0 23.0 -3.0
93 Northwestern 1942 1942 1 0 1 0 .000 0 3 -3 0.0 3.0 -3.0
94 Randolph Field 1944 1944 1 0 1 0 .000 6 42 -36 6.0 42.0 -36.0
95 South Carolina 1957 1957 1 0 1 0 .000 21 27 -6 21.0 27.0 -6.0
96 Virginia Tech 1995 1995 1 0 1 0 .000 10 28 -18 10.0 28.0 -18.0
Output only includes games where both schools were classified as major schools  

 

Vandy & South Carolina should take care of itself.  UCLA, Penn State, BYU, SC, ND, and Syracuse should be on our to do list.  

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On 2/13/2024 at 1:56 AM, Cajun said:

I don’t understand why Texas Tech is so upset.  They were already 96% irrelevant in the college football landscape even with Texas around and now they’re 100% irrelevant.

What’s another 4%?

Wrong.  They went from a power five to a power 3 conference

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10 hours ago, South Austin said:

Nightshift is a beautiful song that was meant to be played in the car while driving in the middle of the night.

I'd go with "Night Moves" by Seger.  Otherwise known as the thinking man's Bruce Springsteen.  But judges will also accept Nightshift.  

I remember one late night growing up near Chicago and we were still drunk/high and Andy was driving his mom's wood-panel station wagon, and we're literally on Lake Shore Drive to drop somebody off.  And the sun is just starting to rise over Lake Michigan.  And sure as fuck on the LoopFM station, Aliotta Haynes Jeremiah song "Lake Shore Drive (LSD)" comes on.  I thought I saw right straight into the core of the galaxy.  

Less than 3 years later, I transferred to the University of Texas.  Walked through a tunnel for the first time at DKR to watch us play Mizzou in a crossfire hurricane in something called the Big Twelve.  Yorkmark took that station wagon and drove it into a fucking lake.  

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3 hours ago, statsman said:

I used to deliver pizzas for Mr. Gattis to apartments on Lakeshore Drive in Waco. 

In the 80s, Gattis had a centralized call center with one phone number to order pizza anywhere in austin: 459-2222

(you will recall - if you were born - that 10-digit dialing did not become mandatory until '94 - before then you could dial a 7-digit number within an area code)

Sophomore year Jester East #507, telephone number was 495-2222

We averaged 5-ish misdials a day and got sick of it, so we started answering "Gattis" and taking orders

If you didn't get your pizza from august 85 through may 86, welp, now you know why

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I'd go with "Night Moves" by Seger.  Otherwise known as the thinking man's Bruce Springsteen.  But judges will also accept Nightshift.  
I remember one late night growing up near Chicago and we were still drunk/high and Andy was driving his mom's wood-panel station wagon, and we're literally on Lake Shore Drive to drop somebody off.  And the sun is just starting to rise over Lake Michigan.  And sure as fuck on the LoopFM station, Aliotta Haynes Jeremiah song "Lake Shore Drive (LSD)" comes on.  I thought I saw right straight into the core of the galaxy.  
Less than 3 years later, I transferred to the University of Texas.  Walked through a tunnel for the first time at DKR to watch us play Mizzou in a crossfire hurricane in something called the Big Twelve.  Yorkmark took that station wagon and drove it into a fucking lake.  

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14 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

In the 80s, Gattis had a centralized call center with one phone number to order pizza anywhere in austin: 459-2222

(you will recall - if you were born - that 10-digit dialing did not become mandatory until '94 - before then you could dial a 7-digit number within an area code)

Sophomore year Jester East #507, telephone number was 495-2222

We averaged 5-ish misdials a day and got sick of it, so we started answering "Gattis" and taking orders

If you didn't get your pizza from august 85 through may 86, welp, now you know why

 

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On 2/17/2024 at 1:27 PM, Nivek said:

 

 

On 2/17/2024 at 1:48 PM, TOR said:

You magnificent bastard.

 

On 2/19/2024 at 7:49 AM, South Austin said:

Nightshift is a beautiful song that was meant to be played in the car while driving in the middle of the night.

GOT-damn.  Haven't heard that song in years, and I am now sitting in my office on a random Tuesday afternoon with tears in my eyes.

You know.... I used to think it was Top Gun that set me on my path to a career in the Navy, but it damn sure may have been this video.

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16 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

In the 80s, Gattis had a centralized call center with one phone number to order pizza anywhere in austin: 459-2222

(you will recall - if you were born - that 10-digit dialing did not become mandatory until '94 - before then you could dial a 7-digit number within an area code)

Sophomore year Jester East #507, telephone number was 495-2222

We averaged 5-ish misdials a day and got sick of it, so we started answering "Gattis" and taking orders

If you didn't get your pizza from august 85 through may 86, welp, now you know why

It had to be later than that, didn't it? I remember 7-digit dialing in high school in the late 90's / early 00's. I moved to Kentucky and Tennessee for a few years and when I came back Austin had switched to 10-digit dialing, but that had to be in the early 2010's. 

Or am I just getting senile?

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It had to be later than that, didn't it? I remember 7-digit dialing in high school in the late 90's / early 00's. I moved to Kentucky and Tennessee for a few years and when I came back Austin had switched to 10-digit dialing, but that had to be in the early 2010's. 

Or am I just getting senile?

Austin switched to 10-digit dialing in 2013. 

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GOT-damn.  Haven't heard that song in years, and I am now sitting in my office on a random Tuesday afternoon with tears in my eyes.
You know.... I used to think it was Top Gun that set me on my path to a career in the Navy, but it damn sure may have been this video.
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Is that the Village People?
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21 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

well fuck me then

the metroplex converted in 94 to allow all the different area codes to call each other "locally"

i thought that was a nationwide thing

/moar you know

I'm guessing Austin switched when we got a second area code. 

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On 2/17/2024 at 1:27 PM, Nivek said:

 

Thank you. You made my day. 

On 2/17/2024 at 1:48 PM, TOR said:

You magnificent bastard.

On 2/20/2024 at 2:33 PM, Guadaloopy said:

GOT-damn.  Haven't heard that song in years, and I am now sitting in my office on a random Tuesday afternoon with tears in my eyes.

Music hits us, and resonates with us, for so many different reasons. This song does it for me, one of those songs that makes me stop what I'm doing, and just listen.

It always takes me back, to the darkest of day of my youth. But it always helps me remember, all the days before.

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