Pac 12 2023- The final countdown

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10 hours ago, mdmost said:

Come late nights next fall, we're really going to miss this dumb conference. 

Naw, they'll have Big ten after dark and for Cal and Stanford ACC after dark.

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Lulz:

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Oregon State and Washington State have begun the formal process for a commissioner change to move on from George Kliavkoff, the Pac-12 announced Tuesday. The two schools make up the conference board following a legal victory late last year.

“The Pac-12 Conference Board has given the departing 10 schools notice of a proposed leadership transition with an invitation to provide comment,” the conference said in a statement. “We expect to provide more information following a decision in the coming days.”

The move is ultimately an expected one. Oregon State and Washington State had been in a legal fight with the 10 departing schools over control of the conference, with Kliavkoff, the Pac-12 and the University of Washington as defendants. The Washington Supreme Court in December declined to hear an appeal from the University of Washington on a lower court ruling that granted control of the conference to Oregon State and Washington State, the two programs left behind after 10 Pac-12 schools announced plans to leave for the Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC.

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A week later, the sides announced a settlement in principle, the details of which continue to be hammered out.

The original court ruling determined Oregon State and Washington State must still treat the other 10 schools in a “fair, open manner” and have input on decision making. Thus, this commissioner change includes an opportunity for the others to provide comments.

Kliavkoff was announced as Pac-12 commissioner in May 2021, replacing the outdoing Larry Scott, whose decision making helped set the conference behind its peers, notably with the Pac-12 Networks. Kliavkoff had previously been the president of entertainment and sports for MGM Resorts International and was hailed as another outsider coming in to shake up and modernize the conference.

A few months later, conference realignment hit as Texas and Oklahoma announced their plans to leave the Big 12 for the SEC. The Pac-12 joined the Big Ten and ACC in the ill-fated “Alliance,” meant to slow down realignment change. Instead, just a year later, USC and UCLA announced their plans to leave for the Big Ten.

Kliavkoff’s hopes of keeping the conference together rested on finding a new television deal. But conference leaders, notably its presidents, badly misread the environment. They aimed too high and then saw the Big 12 jump ahead by making a deal with ESPN and Fox, leaving Kliavkoff to hope an Apple TV+ pitch was enough for his schools last summer. It wasn’t, and the conference fell apart as schools left for the Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC.

Oregon State and Washington State have largely settled their short-term futures. Its football teams have a scheduling agreement with the Mountain West for next year, while most other sports will play in the West Coast Conference for the next two years. The two schools are still sorting through the Pac-12 assets to determine everything available to them.

 

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13 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Lulz:  Oregon State and Washington State have begun the formal process for a commissioner change to move on from George Kliavkoff, the Pac-12 announced Tuesday. The two schools make up the conference board following a legal victory late last year.

 

Yeah gotta fire this loser...

https://footballscoop.com/news/dying-pac-12-to-fire-commissioner-george-kliavkoff

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Oregon State, Washington State announce first schedules as quasi-independents

While the rest of their conference mates play in the Big Ten or the Big 12, the Pac-2 take their first step into an uncertain future.

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Oregon State and Washington State are not members of the Mountain West Conference, but their 2024 schedules were announced along with the rest of the MW on Thursday.

With the dissolution of the Pac-12, the two left behind members cobbled together a scheduling agreement that will see the Cougars play eight MW opponents, and the Beavers seven. 

Both teams did manage to maintain their respective in-state rivalries; Oregon and Oregon State will continue playing the Civil War through at least 2025, and Washington and Washington State will continue playing for the Apple Cup through at least 2028. 

Oregon State will also host Purdue and visit Cal, while Washington State secured a home game with Texas Tech in what we'll dub here the Mike Leach Memorial Shootout.

Similar to Notre Dame's arrangement with the ACC, OSU and WSU's games with the MW will not count in the MW standings, and neither team is eligible for the conference championship.

Oregon State 2024 Schedule
Aug. 31: Idaho State
Sept. 7: at San Diego State
Sept. 14: Oregon
Sept. 21: Purdue
Oct. 5: Colorado State
Oct. 12: at Nevada
Oct. 19: UNLV
Oct. 26: at Cal
Nov. 9: San Jose State
Nov. 16: at Air Force
Nov. 23: Washington State
Nov. 30: at Boise State

Washington State 2024 Schedule
Aug. 31: Portland State
Sept. 7: Texas Tech
Sept. 14: vs. Washington (at Seattle's Lumen Field)
Sept. 21: San Jose State
Sept. 28: at Boise State
Oct. 12: at Fresno State
Oct. 19: Hawai'i
Oct. 26: at San Diego State
Nov. 9: Utah State
Nov. 16: at New Mexico
Nov. 23: at Oregon State
Nov. 30: Wyoming

Membership conversations are ongoing between the respective entities. It's a complicated topic since NCAA rules allow the Pac-2 to continue to exist for the next two seasons, and it's financially advantageous to keep the Pac-?? brand alive as long as possible. 

Speaking of that, the Pac-12 Networks will continue operation through at the next academic year.

Televising Beaver and Cougar home games remains an ongoing conversation as well.

"Not surprisingly, there's great interest," Pac-2 commissioner Teresa Gould said Thursday. "We are working hard to try to consider the options that are on the table to televise all the home games."

 

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Washington State imposed mandatory paycuts on all football coaches

University leadership headed by AD Pat Chun informed coaches in mid-December

https://footballscoop.com/news/washington-state-imposed-mandatory-paycuts-on-all-football-coaches

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5 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Washington State imposed mandatory paycuts on all football coaches

University leadership headed by AD Pat Chun informed coaches in mid-December

https://footballscoop.com/news/washington-state-imposed-mandatory-paycuts-on-all-football-coaches

Both of those athletic departments are screwed.

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So PAC-12 network and the PAC 12 are still alive with two teams….   I mean if your kid goes to Washington State and plays club waterpolo, you might be able to watch them on tv now.  

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9 minutes ago, mdmost said:

 

Still really saddens me that the conference is done.

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1 minute ago, Sbbruin said:

Still really saddens me that the conference is done.

[mdmost 42865]

Pac 12 after dark isn't fully dead. It's just sleeping till 2025.

 

Edited July 10 by mdmost

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This is what happens when you put Wazzu in charge:

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The Pac-12 filed a lawsuit in federal court Tuesday challenging the legality of a "poaching penalty" included in a football scheduling agreement it signed with the Mountain West Conference in December.

With Oregon State and Washington State scrambling late last year to fill their 2024 football schedules in the wake of the Pac-12's collapse, they came to terms with the Mountain West on a one-year agreement that added six MWC opponents to each remaining Pac-12 school's schedule this season.

 

As part of the agreement, the Mountain West included language that requires the Pac-12 to pay a fee of $10 million if a school left the MWC for the Pac-12, with escalators of $500,000 for each additional school.

"This action challenges an anticompetitive and unlawful 'Poaching Penalty' that the MWC imposed on the Pac-12 to inhibit competition for member schools in collegiate athletics," the suit says. "The 'Poaching Penalty' saddles the Pac-12 with exorbitant and punitive monetary fees for engaging in competition by accepting MWC member schools into the Pac-12.

"The MWC imposed this Poaching Penalty at a time when the Pac-12 was desperate to schedule football games for its two remaining members and had little leverage to reject this naked restraint on competition."

When Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State and San Diego State announced Sept. 12 they were leaving the Mountain West for the Pac-12, there was an expectation the Pac-12 would be required to pay $43 million in fees, as outlined in the scheduling agreement. That number jumped to $55 million on Monday after Utah State also accepted an offer to leave the Mountain West for the Pac-12.

On the same day the announcements were made, Mountain West commissioner Gloria Nevarez sent an email to Scott Petersmeyer, the Pac-12's chief legal officer, noting the Pac-12's "obligation" to pay the $43 million within 30 days.

Pac-12 commissioner Teresa Gould responded to Nevarez's email Tuesday to inform her of the lawsuit, noting the conference's stance that the fees are unlawful.

"Fundamentally, these provisions seek to inhibit competition by placing exorbitant and punitive monetary fees on the Pac-12 simply for engaging in competition by accepting MWC member schools into the Pac-12," Gould's letter said. "As you know, the MWC imposed these improper penalties over the Pac-12's objection at a time when the Pac-12 was desperate to schedule football games for its two remaining members and had little leverage to reject this clear restraint on competition."

The Mountain West was reviewing the lawsuit when contacted Tuesday by ESPN and did not have an immediate comment.

The lawsuit also noted the roughly $18 million in exit fees each of the departing schools will be required to pay the Mountain West.

"To the extent the MWC would suffer any harm from the departures of its member schools, these exit fees provide more than sufficient compensation to the MWC," the lawsuit says. "There is no reason why the schools' new conference should be responsible for compensating the MWC further, or why such penalties should apply to only one competitor conference: the Pac-12."

Negotiations between the Pac-12 and Mountain West this summer to extend the scheduling agreement for the 2025 season ended with a significant gap between what the Mountain West wanted and what the Pac-12 was willing to pay.

"The conferences' negotiations broke down after the MWC demanded $30 million from the Pac-12 for the 2025- 2026 season, more than double the already exorbitant price the MWC charged the Pac-12 for games during the 2024-2025 season," the lawsuit said. "After the parties were unable to reach agreement in the face of the MWC's financial demands, the MWC Commissioner broke off further discussions, stating, 'I think we have to move on.'"

With both conferences at seven schools - starting with the 2026 season -- more movement is inevitable, as the NCAA requires a conference to have eight football-playing schools. UNLV is on the proverbial clock having reaffirmed its commitment to the Mountain West on Monday, only to back away from that commitment upon learning Utah State was leaving for the Pac-12.