Kenny Paxton/Dave P's Impeachment Game Day Thread

[C-Man 27041]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

So is Maxwell.

Also, facts not in evidence was the proper objection and should have been sustained. Cogdell is testifying rather than asking questions. 

If this was a real court, maybe that might matter. None of this makes a shit.

[Guest]

This lawyer asks a long-winded question and then rephrases the question in a convoluted way. By the end of it, I can't figure out what the hell he is asking.

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[DDD Dad 14250]

Cogdell is not showing appropriate decorum.

[C-Man 27041]

Cogdell and DeGuerin sniping a little bit right there.

[Dahobbs 17437]

1 minute ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

This lawyer asks a long-winded question and then rephrases the question in a convoluted way. By the end of it, I can't figure out what the hell he is asking.

Time honored defense tactic. Confuse everyone and everything, including the jury. 

[kevwun 15620]

Being a dick to a Texas Ranger plays well with the folks back home I'm sure.

[A-Tex Devil 2445]

Maxwell needs to start saying "I don't know" and "I can't recall" if that's really the case.  He doesn't need to say anything else and it will get Cogdell to move on or look even more dumb.  

 

Edited.... There you go, Ranger.

Edited September 8, 2023 by A-Tex Devil

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[Guest]

Is this Angela Paxton in the blue:

[C-Man 27041]

Briscoe Cain sighting

 

[Eskimohorn 5613]

Maxwell:  "My opinion was that is that Nate Paul is a criminal, and that our office should not be associated with him."

/impeachment trial

That should just about do it. Why waste any more time?

[South Austin 52129]

2 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Why waste any more time?

The lawyers are getting paid by the hour.

[A-Tex Devil 2445]

Dan Patrick is just doing make up  calls for both sides.  There is no rhyme or reason to it.  

[elfenix 34171]

Defense attorney on KHOU stream keeps saying the evidentiary standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. This isn't a criminal trial. It's not even really a civil trial.

At least now he's saying that he doesn't think what goes on up there matters because these aren't jurors, they're senators.

[Guest]

Called it a day, looks like.

[Beau Vine 53984]

27 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Briscoe Cain sighting

 

I don't think Maxwell is actually 6'6".  He doesn't appear to be 2 feet taller than Cain.

[Sawbonz 27398]

2 hours ago, YGIFS said:

This whole thing is turning into a Bill BRaskey SNL sketch

I was in Corpus on business and I had an Asian waiter who was 8 feet tall. I asked him his name. Yep, Ho Tran Maxwell! 

[Brisketexan 104557]

42 minutes ago, South Austin said:

The lawyers are getting paid by the hour.

[Brisketexan 104557]

1 hour ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

To be fair, you'd think the associate AG would be able to handle his own on a witness stand.

Ummmm....when you realize that the various high-ranking assistant AGs were NOT hired for their extensive lawyering chops, but rather for whether they were psychopathic ideologues, then you'll understand why maybe some of these fanatical true believers don't also happen to be good attorneys.  "Being good at law stuff" was not a requirement when they were hired.

[Gap03 3277]

56 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Time honored defense tactic. Confuse everyone and everything, including the jury. 

Yup ...

[Beau Vine 53984]

IANAL, but this seems like a terrible cross for the defense.  Why this guy got bogged down on what Maxwell's lawyer knew is baffling, and Maxwell, excuse me, Ranger, made him look like a damn fool.  

[Beau Vine 53984]

These dudes look like they know they've lost today:

[Beau Vine 53984]

I've decided that yesterday's lawyer looks like some horrific Chris Ogden-Ethan Suplee lovechild:

[That Guy 955]

Two on the left look like they walked into the kitchen for some leftover cake only to discover that dude on the right ate it all. 

[Brisketexan 104557]

19 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

These dudes look like they know they've lost today:

Naaah.  This case was won or lost MONTHS ago.  This show is nothing but kabuki theater.  Go ahead and run whatever plays you want, the score was already decided before the first whistle blew.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13410]

So many of the highlights that I’ve seen this week are Paxton’s attorneys asking witnesses why they didn’t give Paxton a heads up that they thought he was doing something wrong. They reply they did. But why does that matter? If he is breaking the law there isn’t some defense that he wasn’t warned by his employees.

[TwiceHorn 31263]

5 hours ago, elfenix said:

Defense attorney on KHOU stream keeps saying the evidentiary standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. This isn't a criminal trial. It's not even really a civil trial.

At least now he's saying that he doesn't think what goes on up there matters because these aren't jurors, they're senators.

Actually, I believe the Senate rules call for that standard of proof.  But because there is no provision for JNOV/JMOL or appeal, wgaf.

[BevoSwag 272]

One of the funnier lines on X today happened when someone asked if Paxton's wife was present.  The response was no, she is making lunch for the mistress

[chainsaw 9837]

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/paid-paxton-influencers-impeachment/

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Do you support Ken Paxton, the embattled and impeached Texas attorney general? Would you champion him online for, say, $50? That’s not just a theoretical question. Before the start of his impeachment trial this week, pro-Paxton political forces were paying for influencers to post on social media in support of the state’s top legal authority, who faces sixteen counts ranging from dereliction of official duty to bribery and conspiracy.

How do I know this? Because I signed up to be a social media influencer, and to my great surprise, I earned $50 for each of two posts.

 

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Mark Penley on the stand, talking about being pressured to help Nate Paul by investigating the FBI agents, DPS personnel, and the federal courthouse that were going after Nate Paul.

Edited September 11, 2023 by atomheartbevo

[Chad Fuck 17556]

This guy seems like a pretty straight shooter as well.  But it's easy to look that way when you're dealing with such flat out craziness.  Being asked to alter a Federal warrant because you didn't find what you wanted, after the fact.  That is fucking nuts.

[texasdago 7552]

On 9/8/2023 at 4:15 PM, C-Man said:

Briscoe Cain sighting

 

Cain's internship is going to look great on his resume when he tries to get a job.  Good for the little fella.

[chainsaw 9837]

4 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Cain's internship is going to look great on his resume when he tries to get a job.  Good for the little fella.

He's on the Board of Managers. According to this link, https://senate.texas.gov/coi.php

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The House Board of Managers are Representatives Murr, chair; A. Johnson, vice chair; Geren; Moody; Canales; Leach; Longoria; Meyer; Cain; Vasut; Spiller; and Gamez.

 

[Brisketexan 104557]

19 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

He's on the Board of Managers. According to this link, https://senate.texas.gov/coi.php

 

Let me put that in terms that might help y'all understand why my ledge has become crowded: Texas has become so fucked that it's looking to Briscoe Cain to save it.

[YGIFS 19449]

Yeah, the "Mr. Frodo Goes to Washington" screenplay pitch?  I was skeptical at first.  But I'm coming around on the idea.  

Edited September 11, 2023 by YGIFS

[texasdago 7552]

50 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

He's on the Board of Managers. According to this link, https://senate.texas.gov/coi.php

 

[A-Tex Devil 2445]

I am eyerolling about all the procedural stuff here and how Patrick seems to just be calling objection/sustained on who is most adamant or if he's done too many of one in a row, he goes the other way.   I presume this is all just to keep things within some semblance of guardrails.

That said, if convicted, what would stop Paxton from going to a friendly judge and trying to enjoin the conviction over "procedural failures".  I presume there is no standing for something like that given there isn't an appeal process on conviction of impeachment charges in the state constitution.  

I'm just struggling with this procedural clown show that Patrick is running and its purpose.

[Brisketexan 104557]

1 minute ago, A-Tex Devil said:

That said, if convicted, what would stop Paxton from going to a friendly judge and trying to enjoin the conviction over "procedural failures".  I presume there is no standing for something like that given there isn't an appeal process on conviction of impeachment charges in the state constitution.  

Functionally zero chance.  The impeachment process is entirely a feature of the legislative branch per the constitution.  There is no rational way for a court to step in and interfere.

But, we live in MAGA land, so note that I said "functionally zero," not "zero."  Because there may well be a MAGA judge out there who will just make shit up.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I am eyerolling about all the procedural stuff here and how Patrick seems to just be calling objection/sustained on who is most adamant or if he's done too many of one in a row, he goes the other way.   I presume this is all just to keep things within some semblance of guardrails.

That said, if convicted, what would stop Paxton from going to a friendly judge and trying to enjoin the conviction over "procedural failures".  I presume there is no standing for something like that given there isn't an appeal process on conviction of impeachment charges in the state constitution.  

I'm just struggling with this procedural clown show that Patrick is running and its purpose.

Objection: Hogwash.

"Sustained"

[Horn80 6075]

Day 4 and I’ve heard enough.  Paxton needs to go and hope that will be the outcome.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Horn80 said:

Day 4 and I’ve heard enough.  Paxton needs to go and hope that will be the outcome.

Not watching much today, but have they tied onto the reason that Paxton was doing these things for Paul? I think they've made it clear that Paxton was going out of his way to help Paul. But... why? Some countertops?

[chainsaw 9837]

1 minute ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Not watching much today, but have they tied onto the reason that Paxton was doing these things for Paul? I think they've made it clear that Paxton was going out of his way to help Paul. But... why? Some countertops?

I've been wondering this too. Maybe it won't come out in this proceeding but in another one at a later time.

[Horn80 6075]

5 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Not watching much today, but have they tied onto the reason that Paxton was doing these things for Paul? I think they've made it clear that Paxton was going out of his way to help Paul. But... why? Some countertops?

Pussy is undefeated.

[Dnaguy 11769]

Objecting bearded lawyer is always disgusted in his objections.

He's looks personally offended every time he objects.

It's actually kind of hilarious and if I didn't have work I'd drink every time he gives his eat shit objections

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2659]

Goebe is sustaining almost every one of their shit objections

[Eskimohorn 5613]

I am eyerolling about all the procedural stuff here and how Patrick seems to just be calling objection/sustained on who is most adamant or if he's done too many of one in a row, he goes the other way.   I presume this is all just to keep things within some semblance of guardrails.
That said, if convicted, what would stop Paxton from going to a friendly judge and trying to enjoin the conviction over "procedural failures".  I presume there is no standing for something like that given there isn't an appeal process on conviction of impeachment charges in the state constitution.  
I'm just struggling with this procedural clown show that Patrick is running and its purpose.

Sounds like he’s moderating a talk show

[South Austin 52129]

Mitch Little is going to walk away from these proceedings as the most punchable lawyer by far.

[royiv 9148]

11 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Mitch Little is going to walk away from these proceedings as the most punchable lawyer by far.

And that's saying something given the profession as a whole.