Game Week Thread Week 3 2023: Wyoming @ Texas

[Hank Kingsley 20903]

Night game at home with new light setup and fired up crowd after Bama game...no excuse for a let down. I expect the players to be pumped and ready. 

[Gandalfish 346]

2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Night game at home with new light setup and fired up crowd after Bama game...no excuse for a let down. I expect the players to be pumped and ready. 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Goddamn y’all are bumming me out.

[South Austin 52431]

8 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Goddamn y’all are bumming me out.

Here's a snek.

[sith_horn 2379]

17 hours ago, mdleast said:

I can’t read the name Big Boi without hearing it in Dark Helmet’s voice though, admittedly, I’m an idiot.

                                  

[Royale with cheese 1466]

9 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

                                  

I'm a Big Kahuna Burger boy, myself.

 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Royale with cheese

[sith_horn 2379]

[TrashMaster G 17537]

15 hours ago, TornACL said:

Maybe the better we're playing the better the acts.

If so, hopefully by the time the Tech game rolls around we'll have a fully reunited Led Zeppelin playing LCL with Bonham bringing Beethoven back from the dead with him to accompany on Kashmir.

Led Zeppelin sucks.  I want The Beatles!

 

 

1 hour ago, NoName said:

keep in mind that TTU scored 33 points on Wyoming and had 431 yards of offense and that FCS Portland State scored 17 and had 344 yards.

also keep in mind that Texas just scored 34 points on the road vs Alabama and had 454 yards.

but sure. maybe they will only score 24 or 28 points on a bad defense after putting up 34 vs fucking Alabama.

Tom Herman isn't the coach of this team. Charlie Strong isn't the coach of this team.

if you think Texas, the Texas who just lit up fucking Alabama on the road, with the best roster the team has had since 2009, is going to come home and not light up WYOMING at home, idk what to say.

it's incredible that you contracted Battered Aggie Syndrome 5 days after the biggest Texas win since 2009.

It's been 13 years of crap.  The PTSD isn't going away after one game.

[ClubWhatever 12120]

1 hour ago, NoName said:

gave up 33* points to TTU

*20 in regulation

 

[jofus 2266]

especially if we let off the gas pedal late

I was told there would be a lot of gas, and not any brakes.

[texifornia 56851]

Hoo boy this fanbase does not see the sun very much. Looking like the Twilight vampires out there.

 

[Elmer_Fudd 22198]

[DreadHead 115]

Apologies if I posted in the wrong place. Stadium seating lower section Texas side, sections 3,4,5. The first few rows are stadium seating, with no chairback. The benches cross sections, how does the numbering work in those sections? Does the seat number start over in the middle of the bench or continue into the next section?

I'm trying to make sense of that and find out what seat numbers are on the aisle. And for the life of me, can't find any DKR maps with actual seat numbers online. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

3 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

this seems to be going over Quinn's head, so let me make it as clear as possible:

i'm saying Quinn is being fucking dumb, because Quinn is being fucking dumb.

Quinn is worried about or think that Texas, who just scored 34 points on the road, against ALABAMA is only going to score 24 or 28 points at home, against a Wyoming defense who just gave up 17 points to an FCS team? and who gave up 33 points to TTU?

 

 

@NoName did I do this right? Just checking.

Edited September 14, 2023 by BurntOrange&White

[UTEE97 3507]

After the game, Quinn told Holly Rowe that he was pumped for the rest of the season. I like where this young man's head is at. He is thinking the big picture, not just one game. 

[closetojumping 62510]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

this seems to be going over Quinn's head, so let me make it as clear as possible:

i'm saying Quinn is being fucking dumb, because Quinn is being fucking dumb.

Quinn is worried about or think that Texas, who just scored 34 points on the road, against ALABAMA is only going to score 24 or 28 points at home, against a Wyoming defense who just gave up 17 points to an FCS team? and who gave up 33 points to TTU?

 

 

@NoName did I do this right? Just checking.

You're doing it wrong and you should stop. No one on the team is worried about Wyoming, and they shouldn't be. They're focused on firmly establishing ground rules for the rest of the season. Everything is in front of them, and setting the tone for that starts with Wyoming. 

You can DM with sarvanaash if you need to unnecessarily handwring about this game. The rest of us are interested in ongoing updates and analyses about it from writers or posters.

[ousux 5595]

Hoo boy this fanbase does not see the sun very much. Looking like the Twilight vampires out there.
 

Tell me you haven't been in the Texas heat this summer. We're all vamps when it hits 99 by 11am.

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

You're doing it wrong and you should stop. No one on the team is worried about Wyoming, and they shouldn't be. They're focused on firmly establishing ground rules for the rest of the season. Everything is in front of them, and setting the tone for that starts with Wyoming. 

You can DM with sarvanaash if you need to unnecessarily handwring about this game. The rest of us are interested in ongoing updates and analyses about it from writers or posters.

I'm not even handwringing until noname came in bitching and moaning about what I said....I made a simple statement about the Wyoming game that was in no way complaining or bitching but more to the mentality of this team heading foward post Bama. 

 

 

Edited September 14, 2023 by BurntOrange&White

[Dewey 3286]

2 hours ago, Gandalfish said:

[closetojumping 62510]

10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I'm not even handwringing until noname came in bitching and moaning about what I said....I made a simple statement about the Wyoming game that was in no way complaining or bitching but more to the mentality of this team heading foward post Bama. 

 

 

You chose to get specific with numbers and cited scoring outputs in the 20s. People are going to react to nonsense like that.

All you or anyone had to say, and they could just do this to themselves and spare the rest of us but it's certainly been an ongoing thing on this thread, is "The best outcome for this game is that when it is over, it is nationally irrelevant and not covered in any fashion." Because that would mean nothing happened in the game and Texas won handily. People will find anything to bitch about, but everyone's expectations should be flippant and low. This game tells us nothing and Texas will win convincingly. 

[Hookem2147 21188]

OL grading and breakdown from the Bama game (via Dunlap)

Spoiler

Skill Player Snap Counts and Game-by-Game Percentages of Offensive Snaps (2023 Through Week 2)



***please note that exact snap-count numbers may differ from other sources at times, as the Deep Dig does not count plays as offensive player snaps that are blown dead due to penalty, punts, extra points, field goals, spiked balls, victory formations, kneel-downs, etc.***

Personnel-Grouping Frequency Overall and by Game (2023 Through Week 2)



Tight End Total Snap Counts and Alignment Data (2023 Through Week 2)



Team Target Share By Week (2023 Through Week 2)



Deep Dig OL Grading Scale (each snap by each player is graded as its own independent event)



OL Grades (Alabama)

LT Kelvin Banks - 70 snaps
1 QB hit allowed
1 holding penalty
DEEP DIG GRADE: 78.71

LG Hayden Conner - 70 snaps
2 run stuffs, 1 QB pressure allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 76.57

C Jake Majors - 70 snaps
No disruption allowed
1 pin block
DEEP DIG GRADE: 77.86

RG DJ Campbell - 34 snaps
No disruption allowed
1 knockdown
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.53

RG Cole Hutson - 36 snaps
1 TFL, 1 QB pressure allowed
1 knockdown
DEEP DIG GRADE: 74.83

RT Christian Jones - 70 snaps
1 run stuff allowed
2 pin blocks
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.43


OL Grades by Week (2023 Through Week 2)



OL Snaps-per-Disruption Allowed (2023 Through Week 2)



2023 OL Snaps-per-Disruption Allowed Versus Historical Precedent (Last 11 seasons)




QUICK FINAL THOUGHTS

Just like that ... Texas fans finally had it. Maybe it was just for one night, and maybe, just maybe, it is something that could stick around a while.

An offensive line that finally looked just like the ones they'd longed over for years. The ones they'd point to at Wisconsin or Iowa or Ohio State and bemoan, "Why can't we have one like THAT?!" while pointing at the television as Ron Dayne or Ezekiel Elliott whizzed through wide-open run lanes. It was not a perfect game for the Texas big men versus Alabama, but none of those offensive lines you dreamed about before were ever really *perfect*, either. They were just awesome, and effective, and nothing they were doing could be perceived as having a negative effect on what the offensive game plan was for the given team. Just like Texas on Saturday night. Against Alabama. Future NFL players everywhere.

And, given the monumental concerns that Texas fans had about the offensive line's interior against Rice (a team that Houston found out last week is truly no total pushover), it felt so ... sudden.

It's like the old Ernest Hemingway quote about how you go bankrupt: "gradually, then suddenly."

We're not here to say the Texas offensive line has gone bankrupt, or even finds itself in any similar sort of peril. What made us think about this line from The Sun Also Rises was of a completely opposite viewpoint. Let us explain: The Texas OL, collectively, only allowed seven (7) total acts of disruption and/or penalties versus Alabama.

Alabama! Seven?! They allowed 16 just last week versus ... Rice? Now only seven versus Alabama?

Last year, the disruption + penalties allowed counts for the Texas OL were: Baylor (12), Kansas (11), TCU (10), KSU (9), OSU (11), ISU (6), OU (11), WVU (9), Tech (13), UTSA (10), Alabama (13) and ULM (11). Only one game last season did the Texas offensive line allow less disruption than it did versus No.3 Alabama, at night, in Tuscaloosa. Don't even get us started on the 2021 season -- Sark and Kyle Flood's first in Austin -- when Texas played another early season SEC opponent (a much less talented one than 2023 Alabama) in Arkansas. On that night in Fayetteville, the number was 20.

The development of this offensive line group has occurred gradually, and no better case can be made for that than looking at the unprecedented ascension of Christian Jones. When Kyle Flood got to Texas, Jones was viewed by many (some of us here at the Deep Dig included) as soft and needing to be replaced. Through that season, he improved. In 2022, more gradual steps forward occurred; so much so that by the end of the year, it was somewhat of a surprise that he elected to return for another year at Texas. Enter 2023, where you have Senior Bowl Director Jim Nagy tweeting about how Jones is exactly what you want to see when looking for an NFL tackle and that "soft" ex-soccer player who always had a little something special in his feet is putting dudes in the dirt and falling on them with all his weight, playing with a nasty, nasty streak and completely demoralizing the opposition with pin blocks. It's been a slow bake, but -- with all due respect to Kelvin Banks -- Jones has played the best of any Texas OL this season when looking at things objectively from solely an on-field performance standpoint. He's very likely not to sustain his level of efficiency in not allowing disruption, but the historical chart above shows you where his current play would place him if he, somehow, were able to keep this up through the season.

And Kelvin Banks has been Kelvin Banks. He hasn't had a game yet where he popped up into the 80s like we saw so much last season, but those days will come. Those are your two NFL guys. They will both play in the league. Which brings us to the Deep Dig Grading Scale shown above. Stick those two in the NFL-level. Hayden Conner has not really taken leaps and bounds in his play, but has remained a solid and steady presence. He will improve when and if he focuses on how to shore up his power base when coming into engagement laterally in open space. We said last week that one thing that we could pin our hopes on with Jake Majors is that he's very smart and has traditionally been an asset with picking up and passing off stunts. We saw that versus Alabama as Majors allowed no immediate disruption, and, like the rest of the OL, committed no pre-snap penalties. If we're getting that 76.5-or-so level of play from those guys, the scale says it all: if an OL has an entire unit operating at a level in that 76.5 range and up, there will be no hindrance to an offensive game plan. If your baseline, your weakest link that along the OL you are often only as strong as, is elevated up into that range while your higher-end players operate in their respective ranges, the offensive line is set and is a massive strength of your entire team.

Which brings us to what happened suddenly to make this all come together: DJ Campbell. The night-and-day comparison from Rice to Bama with Campbell (who only played about half the snaps, ceding the rest to the less effective Cole Hutson; who, admittedly had some really nice plays himself mixed in with more frequent not-so-good ones) was shocking. We worried about Campbell's development arc after the Rice game that saw him made to look pretty terrible. We suggested patience with him, and the extension of some grace as the line could have come in with some rust. Campbell has always shown a rare, rare ability to move bodies in the run game. Indeed, it was where he was best versus Alabama, but his anchor through engagement in pass protection and his awareness in tandem with both Majors and Jones was just so vastly improved. A sudden entrance of a player with Campbell's gifts - playing at a level above previous expectation - inserted into a unit playing with 1) the elevated baseline discussed; and 2) among two surefire future NFL players is going to have a predictable outcome, and that was what we saw on Saturday.

It was coming along slowly until it wasn't.

Onward to Wyoming.

 

[Texas Wahoo 3389]

6 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

OL grading and breakdown from the Bama game (via Dunlap)

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Skill Player Snap Counts and Game-by-Game Percentages of Offensive Snaps (2023 Through Week 2)



***please note that exact snap-count numbers may differ from other sources at times, as the Deep Dig does not count plays as offensive player snaps that are blown dead due to penalty, punts, extra points, field goals, spiked balls, victory formations, kneel-downs, etc.***
 

 

Cook only had two snaps and one of them was the early celebration of Worthy's TD?  That's hilarious.  He made the most of his screen-time.

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2935]

Nice to have a "maximum focusness" players-only meeting after a big road win versus the "oh shit we suck again" players-only meeting after another inexplicable loss like the recent past.

Progress.

[Js1 85258]

Surly needs a team meeting too. We went from “I fucking love you all” on Saturday night to Monday to now fighting about maybe possibly but not likely only beating Wyoming by 3 TDs

[BigBenBamboozle 1952]

[TrashMaster G 17537]

48 minutes ago, DreadHead said:

Apologies if I posted in the wrong place. Stadium seating lower section Texas side, sections 3,4,5. The first few rows are stadium seating, with no chairback. The benches cross sections, how does the numbering work in those sections? Does the seat number start over in the middle of the bench or continue into the next section?

I'm trying to make sense of that and find out what seat numbers are on the aisle. And for the life of me, can't find any DKR maps with actual seat numbers online. 

Tunnels and aisles are in the middle of sections.  So, yes, seat 1 for a particular Section/Row is going to be halfway between two aisles.

[Pancho 44686]

Jesus, some of y’all need to fucking take some time off of this website. Fight about taking Wyoming seriously or not and about how many TDs we will win by? 

2009 to last weekend gave some of y’all stage 4 syphilis it seems.

 

 

[UTEE97 3507]

22 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Nice to have a "maximum focusness" players-only meeting after a big road win versus the "oh shit we suck again" players-only meeting after another inexplicable loss like the recent past.

Progress.

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

Don't let an overrated Tech loss at Wyoming scare yall. Mcguire is a big game coach ala Tom Herman and only shows up when a win would make the season (see Texas 2022. We win this going away and get 3 QBs into the game

 

[LonghornSean 3989]

1 hour ago, DreadHead said:

Apologies if I posted in the wrong place. Stadium seating lower section Texas side, sections 3,4,5. The first few rows are stadium seating, with no chairback. The benches cross sections, how does the numbering work in those sections? Does the seat number start over in the middle of the bench or continue into the next section?

I'm trying to make sense of that and find out what seat numbers are on the aisle. And for the life of me, can't find any DKR maps with actual seat numbers online. 

 

1 hour ago, TrashMaster G said:

Tunnels and aisles are in the middle of sections.  So, yes, seat 1 for a particular Section/Row is going to be halfway between two aisles.

And seat numbers go up from right to left (facing the field).

Exact aisle seat numbers will vary but in section 5 row 21, the aisle is seat 16 (that's around the tunnel though). Down lower it might be Seat 20 or so.

Edited September 14, 2023 by LonghornSean

[Hermanator 7031]

3 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Led Zeppelin sucks.  I want The Beatles!

 

3 hours ago, sith_horn said:

[Josef Pwag 1738]

It's time for the weekly Instagram fan check of our opponents:

 

[Fud 9551]

Spread is up to -30 at some spots 

[Hookem2147 21188]

8 minutes ago, Fud said:

Spread is up to -30 at some spots 

Considering it opened at 26.5, it has crossed several key numbers and is still climbing. Interesting.

[Js1 85258]

Really hoping it's out of hand by the 3rd quarter so we can get some Murphy/Manning to Cook/Neyor.  

[sith_horn 2379]

25 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

 

 

Damn, you're right. I really didn't look that closely when I linked and posted. Maybe my googlefu is just weak, but seems like finding a current pic of the cheer squad is tough sledding.

Edited September 14, 2023 by sith_horn

[Bigbend1812 12915]

1 hour ago, BigBenBamboozle said:

[Hermanator 7031]

1 minute ago, Bigbend1812 said:

Oh nice they already made a gif of Kool-Aid McKinstry

[Park Gothic 5016]

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

You chose to get specific with numbers and cited scoring outputs in the 20s. People are going to react to nonsense like that.

All you or anyone had to say, and they could just do this to themselves and spare the rest of us but it's certainly been an ongoing thing on this thread, is "The best outcome for this game is that when it is over, it is nationally irrelevant and not covered in any fashion." Because that would mean nothing happened in the game and Texas won handily. People will find anything to bitch about, but everyone's expectations should be flippant and low. This game tells us nothing and Texas will win convincingly. 

One caveat - if Arch takes his first snaps as a Longhorn, that may garner some national attention. 

[LTtxfan 49141]

 

 

[Burt Macklin 19019]

4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

@NoName did I do this right? Just checking.

Yes, you are proving @NoName’s point that you are fucking dumb. 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Burt Macklin

[GoldAppleCorps 617]

3 hours ago, Texas Wahoo said:

Cook only had two snaps and one of them was the early celebration of Worthy's TD?  That's hilarious.  He made the most of his screen-time.

My favorite thing about that celebration is how it indicated he understood the concept. He knew the route trees, he knew where the defense's vulnerability was, he knew he'd sucked in the deep safety, and he knew it was a TD when the ball went up.

[BrazilHorn 6586]

For betting purposes will this be a Big12 officiating crew?

If so I figure that’s worth 7 points for Wyoming. 

[South Austin 52431]

3 hours ago, Park Gothic said:

One caveat - if Arch takes his first snaps as a Longhorn, that may garner some national attention. 

If he completes a pass it’ll make the Sportscenter Top 10.

[CycleTex87 2965]

Holy shit, Peasley’s wearing a knee brace. 

[ATXbronco 4062]

"If the No. 4 Texas Longhorns want to start the season 3-0 for the first time since 2012"

 

I hope to never read a line like that again

11 minutes ago, South Austin said:

If he completes a pass it’ll make the Sportscenter Top 10.

It'll make front-page news on some sites

[TexasPride10 576]

I hate to be that guy, but does anyone know any tricks to watching the game for free this weekend? Last year we had the Free Sling Trial loophole, but so far I haven’t found anything like that this year. 

[nineliveslost 2753]

39 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said:

Holy shit, Peasley’s wearing a knee brace. 

Well, they are fucked then!!! Because we will dominate any QB with a knee brace. No way we will let a QB with a knee brace run ... ahhhh never mind.

 

[CycleTex87 2965]

18 minutes ago, TexasPride10 said:

I hate to be that guy, but does anyone know any tricks to watching the game for free this weekend? Last year we had the Free Sling Trial loophole, but so far I haven’t found anything like that this year. 

We used to just throw our ID over the wall to our buddy waiting outside the stadium. Hope this helps.

[The Ace of Aces 5175]

Sark said Baxter is a game time decision.