Dallas Cowboys Metathread - Oh No We Suck Again!

[Pato del Muerto 52,114]

Center in the 2nd and sweat in the third maybe if they’re there and Jerry can stomach taking 3 linemen instead of splashy players. 

[futureman 22,353]

5 minutes ago, DougO said:

Not sure Guyton is a plug-in left tackle,

obviously he is.  not sure if you’ve been paying attention but we are “all-in” to win now.  a developmental player doesn’t fit the plan and our general manager is in the hall of fame. 

[LTtxfan 48,727]

Watch Jerruh use a 3rd Rd pick to select another former blOU player...

Spencer Rattler   😬

[Drew 2,267]

Center in the 2nd and sweat in the third maybe if they’re there and Jerry can stomach taking 3 linemen instead of splashy players. 

Yeah I know Barton was THE center. But there’s 2 other good ones that are 2nd rounders and some thing are as good as Barton.

And they got another top 75 pick for the trouble. They get one of the top 4-5 centers and whatever else, RB/LB/DB and they’re good

[DougO 5,231]

2 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Watch Jerruh use a 3rd Rd pick to select another former blOU player...

Spencer Rattler   😬

I'm thinking they are drooling over the top 40 yard kickoff specialist. Probably left footed so the ball spins funny.

[Vito Andolini 9,038]

42 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

That was Tom Brookshire, former Eagle, and caught a lot of shit over it.

It was Alex Hawkins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Hawkins

[Texzilla588 766]

Happy about the trade down, angry about the cluster fuck roster management that made trading down a necessity this year.

Trading down to pick up picks is always smart at the bottom of the first as most drafts don’t have 32 players with R1 grades. So you get stuck paying a guaranteed contract to a R2 player. They got the guy they were projected to take for weeks, filled a need, and picked up a three.

[DougO 5,231]

4 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

It was Alex Hawkins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Hawkins

Yeah, I didn't think it sounded like Brookshire. He spent many years teamed up with Pat Summerall back in the great days of real football. 

[LTtxfan 48,727]

30 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Watch Jerruh use a 3rd Rd pick to select another former blOU player...

Spencer Rattler   😬

Kiper just said on SVP show tonight that Rattler is rated #99 on his board and is next best available QB.

Said Raiders and Cowboys need a QB and may consider drafting him in the 3rd Rd. 🙄

[tx 3 putt 75,521]

 

[AUinHsv 570]

6 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

That was Tom Brookshire, former Eagle, and caught a lot of shit over it.

Not to be "that guy" but it was Alex Hawkins.  He also once commented on a player that had a cast on both arms - when you go to the mens room you find out who your friends are. Didn't stay on NFL broadcasts for too long after that

 

edit - should have read all the replies before responding

Edited April 26 by AUinHsv

[Newy25 7,590]

Dallas didn’t fuck up the draft so far. They trade back, get the guy most thought they take at 24 and get an extra third round pick. That’s about as good as it could have gone. 

[Hank Kingsley 20,147]

As a neutral observer, the trade down was smart. Clearly Dallas was targeting one guy and knew he'd be their later in the round. 

I do find it interesting that when I looked at mocks pre-draft, it felt like all of them had the Cowboys taking Guyton. Usually hard to for analysts to nail picks later in the round. 

 

[LTtxfan 48,727]

8 hours ago, DougO said:

Not sure Guyton is a plug-in left tackle, not a ton of experience there, has had injury history as well, developing player. Thought maybe they would go for Sweat or Brooks, but they have a lot of needs. I wouldn't be that thrilled about taking a center there.

Yeah, most of Guyton's starts were at right tackle for blOU... not all players can switch from right to left tackle in the NFL. 

 

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

The trade down and add a low 3rd was a good move.

The team that lost to the packers needed a LBer and I think cooper will be an all pro. He is the player I was hoping the cowboys would take.

But since the team has gotten decidedly worse since that loss to Green Bay, taking a CB or OL would be acceptable. I am not sure that Guyton will be that good, but I’m willing to give the team the benefit of the doubt, I guess.

Overall, I think we should all expect the team to suck and go through a reboot cycle.

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

I mean god damn cowboys. Take cooper, then in the 2nd take a center/guard. Later in the draft take Christian jones and move him to guard. Lots of things that could be done to strengthen the OL and still grab a sure fire player like cooper. Or take kool aid to play beside diggs since the team let Gilmore walk. This team has holes everywhere and I don’t think a project left tackle is the best move when there were certified starters and at least one game breaker available.

[Horn80 6,016]

8 hours ago, DougO said:

Yeah, I didn't think it sounded like Brookshire. He spent many years teamed up with Pat Summerall back in the great days of real football. 

As I recall, Summerall was the consummate professional and got tired of Brookshire buffoonish antics that got worse each season and didn’t want to associated with it anymore although he didn’t publicly say it.   

[TornACL 7,654]

2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

As a neutral observer, the trade down was smart. Clearly Dallas was targeting one guy and knew he'd be their later in the round. 

I do find it interesting that when I looked at mocks pre-draft, it felt like all of them had the Cowboys taking Guyton. Usually hard to for analysts to nail picks later in the round. 

 

Dallas is usually pretty easy to project because their war room has more leaks in it than the Titanic post-iceberg.

Edited April 26 by TornACL

[lilMAC25 3,773]

10 hours ago, 'stache said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Need a center, had the best on the board, traded it, FUCK YOU JERRY!!!

OT are way more important. I don’t know enough about the Sooner, but we desperately needed an OT.

[Trey3216 15,308]

10 hours ago, DougO said:

I'm thinking they are drooling over the top 40 yard kickoff specialist. Probably left footed so the ball spins funny.

Some of y'all need to put down the bottle of Ajax.  

[dcar00 13,957]

11 hours ago, Texzilla588 said:

You need to catch up. He signed Zeke to come back. He’s our new center.

[SurlyBDR 22,416]

 

[gsoda3 3,195]

*Sigh*

[JOSEYWALES66 1,780]

51 minutes ago, SurlyBDR said:

 

Fucking clown show.

[Mother mopar 3,275]

This is great news, I want JB to succeed, and he won't do that in Dallas.

[Vic Mackey 46,716]

I mean god damn cowboys. Take cooper, then in the 2nd take a center/guard. Later in the draft take Christian jones and move him to guard. Lots of things that could be done to strengthen the OL and still grab a sure fire player like cooper. Or take kool aid to play beside diggs since the team let Gilmore walk. This team has holes everywhere and I don’t think a project left tackle is the best move when there were certified starters and at least one game breaker available.

I agree. We could have stayed put and got a day 1 starter at center, which we desperately need. This guy seems like a project and has an injury history. Dallas usually hits on their 1st round OL picks so hopefully this works. We need someone to replace Tyron Smith and he could never make it as LT in college.

[Texzilla588 766]

Yeah, most of Guyton's starts were at right tackle for blOU... not all players can switch from right to left tackle in the NFL. 
 

If he can beat out Terrence Steele put him at RT. Move smith to LT. Steele to LG.

Need to draft a center in 2 or 3.

[DougO 5,231]

The thing that keeps coming back to me about Cowboys drafts is that they probably spend more draft capital and salary on OL than any other NFL team over the last couple of decades, yet they seem to be rebuilding their OL every other year. They seem to do poorly at sifting out the later round OL prospects, even second and third round guys are often quick flame-outs, meh... or just total busts.

Edited April 26 by DougO

[Surly Bevo 24,604]

1 minute ago, DougO said:

The thing that keeps coming back to me about Cowboys drafts is that they probably spend more draft capital and salary on OL than any other NFL team over the last couple of decades, yet they seem to be rebuilding their OL every other year. They seem to do poorly at sifting out the later round OL prospects, even second and third round guys are often quick flame-outs, meh... or just total busts.

That’s because O line is the absolute toughest position on the field to evaluate and you combine that fact with the numbnuts in charge and well there it is. 

[DougO 5,231]

7 minutes ago, Texzilla588 said:

If he can beat out Terrence Steele put him at RT. Move smith to LT. Steele to LG.

Need to draft a center in 2 or 3.

Guyton at RT makes sense, but I don't see Steele as a guard. The Cowboys seem to want to keep Smith at guard, but he seemed to take to left tackle pretty well, not sure that isn't the best option.

[A’Dam Psycho 1,436]

Unless the Oregon kid at center is still available, you take Brooks, Benson, or Corum in the 2nd. 

Not a deep O-Line class in general 

[Texzilla588 766]

Guyton at RT makes sense, but I don't see Steele as a guard. The Cowboys seem to want to keep Smith at guard, but he seemed to take to left tackle pretty well, not sure that isn't the best option.

You have to find a place for Steele because he’s got a fat contract. Maybe he was not fully recovered from his injury but he was awful last season.

Coaching is very important for o line because they also do the philosophy and blocking scheme. Dallas has always done best with a road grater type line scheme. Fat Mike brought in his buddy Joe Philbin who’s an idiot who liked a ballet style scheme. Scolari i don’t know much; linemen tend to not talk much.

It’s time for a major rebuild. Zach is showing his mileage a bit. Tyron and biadasz gone. We’ve really been needing a top center since Frederick; he was such a mean badass center but he also was brilliant with his line calls at scrimmage ( a rarely discussed important part of the game). Stepnoski and Donaldson were both great at that too.

I was an o lineman and am biased; I am like Madden that the 7 man sled is the key to football. If your linemen can impose their will on the defense you will win the game.

[Sgt Hulk 13,537]

It don’t make a shit who we draft none of them will be game changers for us next season and every team reloaded and we deloaded.  If we make the playoffs. Futureman will fist his own ass. But we are likely number 3 in the nfc east. 

[Patrick Bateman 3,864]

6 hours ago, TornACL said:

Dallas is usually pretty easy to project because their war room has more leaks in it than the Titanic post-iceberg.

Or Jerrah just slobbers all over players and shows his hand..... Again, he's blubbering moron at this point.  Probably blows as much out of his ass into his diaper as he does out of his mouth.  Everyone else at the desk is just sitting there like..... shut the fuck up old man.

 

[Patrick Bateman 3,864]

Guess who's back.... back again.

 

 

[Texzilla588 766]

Zeke is our new center. Problem solved!

[LTtxfan 48,727]

4 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

combine that fact with the numbnuts in charge (of Cowboys) and well there it is. 

 

[LTtxfan 48,727]

4 hours ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Unless the Oregon kid at center is still available, you take Brooks, Benson, or Corum in the 2nd. 

Not a deep O-Line class in general 

Not a fan of selecting Corum in 2nd.  Can't run through tackles in NFL like he did in CFB.  

[Drew 2,267]

They shouldn't take a RB at all in R2...I'm not even happy about R3 but no R2 for sure.

Get the walk in center...you'll have addressed the OL issues in the first two rounds.

I COULD see them doing the best LB available too and going C/RB in the 3rd.

 

I don't want them taking Brooks.  They don't need to waste a high pick on a RB, even if he's potentially the best...especially off injury.

[tx 3 putt 75,521]

 

[TornACL 7,654]

1 hour ago, Drew said:

 

I don't want them taking Brooks.  They don't need to waste a high pick on a RB, even if he's potentially the best...especially off injury.

Brooks is a luxury they could take if they had other key needs addressed already. They don't. 

But it feels like Brooks is Jerry's 2024 pet cat.

Edited April 26 by TornACL

[Texzilla588 766]

Brooks is a luxury they could take if they had other key needs addressed already. They don't. 
But it feels like Brooks is Jerry's 2024 pet cat.

Jerry’s love of Brooks is a smoke screen. He doesn’t want anyone else to get that kickoff fair catch specialist he wants.

[mdmost 42,488]

Cooper Dejean to the Eagles. Someone new for Dak to throw picks to. 

[Patrick Bateman 3,864]

Welp, the Eagles had a terrible secondary.... so they've upgraded tremendously with 2 CBs.

[Mo Horn 8,717]

JPJ gone. Would like to have seen him in Dallas

[Patrick Bateman 3,864]

AD Mitchell on the board is...... tempting.

With JPJ gone, then I pivot to the WVU kid or hope Beebe is there in the 3rd.

 

[mdmost 42,488]

Jerry got J Brooks drafted higher. 

[Patrick Bateman 3,864]

Jerrah being a moron continues..... Just a human telegraph.

That's fine.... Again, AD Mitchell..... Hmmm.....

 

[Mo Horn 8,717]

There goes Frazier

[LTtxfan 48,727]

Steelers just took a center Cowboys wanted

Zach Frazier   pick #51