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Putting this in here because some of us don't venture into Bellmont and Bellmont is not interested in our dramarama and cloak and dagger skulduggery...

Bringing this up now because for some reason I can't account for I came upon the short life of poster "joe dillon."

Joined on March 29. 

What's interesting is that he didn't jump in with politics. He busted out with a quartet of posts supporting the firing of Shaka Smart. Pretty blah posts with no insight and poor usage of the English language, such as "hope u cant be right--------if he works out it will be a miracle !!ITS A MIRACLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is not the man ------He proved it by bringing in that one year not a wonder ___________________________________________________We all felt good about it but we see how that feel good worked out"

How that feel good worked out? Who says that?

He posted on baseball a couple of times:

"we looked lost coach couldnt find pitchers mound pitchers lost site of plate"

Then he got a little paranoid.

"my screen says my logins are compromised at surly ? whats the deal just been ignoring them"

Another sports post, a truly dumb one...Somebody posted Vegas's predicted win totals on the football board, and JD had this to say:

"is this football or basketball ?"

Really? 

He started his first and last thread on May 5 -- it's the John Kerry one, and he kicked it off with a Breitbart link. Right out of the box he went four points in the red. 

His written English is clumsy in that Russian way, as this post shows: "rest of world supports treaty---- when did rest of world start dictating US policy  ?       Swiftboating John THE  Coward Kerry-----------------------DONT EVER FORGET"

Not the missing "thes." Also, he doesn't seem to know that "Swiftboating" means using dishonorable tactics against a political opponent. He seems to think it is Kerry's pejorative nickname. (That post took him six more points in the red.)

More poor English:

"Seems to me your remark is from a closet lib. that strikes blindly out at any and all conservatives hoping for a reaction-------well u got it but the point is as a conservative you speak out or join the libs ,"

He consistently misuses "that" in place of "who"; that mistake is repeated in other posts. 

Anyway, that thread was the end of the line for him. He hasn't logged in since May 12. 

It would be interesting to see what handle fired up around that time. 

And if joe dillon (Google turns up only a very obscure utility baseball player for possible inspiration for that name) is / was a Russian troll, it would show attempts at sophistication, in that they try to wade into sports before they get turned loose on the politics boards. This guy was a total fail as a poster, Russkie or not, but I think we should be aware that it's possible that they have learned to spread posts around.

Or all of this could be bullshit on my part. My tinfoil hat is a little tight right now -- I need to loosen up the brim a little. 

 

 

 

 

 

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It sounds absolutely nothing like Hugo. For all the bitching y'all do about him, he posts a shit ton of actual content, which is why you are actually complaining about him. Hugo is clearly American and pissed off, but more vocal about it than the rest of us. If y'all spent half the time critiquing the trolls on your own side, including Trump, half of what Hugo posts wouldn't have to be posted. 

That majority of prolific pro-Trump posters on this site are brand new accounts. Probably a sizable chunk of those are socks and trolls. 

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9 minutes ago, Red Five said:

OP that guy was around on shaggy, and maybe even hornfans. IIRC he has medical issues.

I think he posted as coffeedillon or something over on Shaggy.  He is super old and, like Red Five mentioned, I think Blacklab said something about him having health issues.  He's a right wing nutter but I am pretty sure he is not a sock.  

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I think he posted as coffeedillon or something over on Shaggy.  He is super old and, like Red Five mentioned, I think Blacklab said something about him having health issues.  He's a right wing nutter but I am pretty sure he is not a sock.  

Yeah, he has been signaled as having strong view points but without any animosity. He is not a sock; just entitled to his opinion and let’s leave it at that.

for this thread, there are folks who have gotten socks to... well not sure what is the point. Is surly/shaggy big enough to get active measures? Maybe but .. really? Surly? Damn, them Russians fucking thorough. The cia can nip it in the bud with 5-10 fake interest boards and congregate counter disinformation from there. That or just knock them off the net. Why not? It ain’t a human right they could argue they deserve when they deny so many others to their people. Fuck them, nsa clip them. We got an asshole in chief, do it. Swang them big mericana balls, America first!

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Yeah, he has been signaled as having strong view points but without any animosity. He is not a sock; just entitled to his opinion and let’s leave it at that.

for this thread, there are folks who have gotten socks to... well not sure what is the point. Is surly/shaggy big enough to get active measures? Maybe but .. really? Surly? Damn, them Russians fucking thorough. 

It would have been hilarious to see Boris and Oleg trying to interpret the overnight transformation into a scat porn site. "Boss. Americans strange. Post only shit now."

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9 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

It would have been hilarious to see Boris and Oleg trying to interpret the overnight transformation into a scat porn site. "Boss. Americans strange. Post only shit now."

Based on the malapropism thread, I am convinced that half of Surly did not learn English as a first language.

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18 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Putting this in here because some of us don't venture into Bellmont and Bellmont is not interested in our dramarama and cloak and dagger skulduggery...

Bringing this up now because for some reason I can't account for I came upon the short life of poster "joe dillon."

Joined on March 29. 

What's interesting is that he didn't jump in with politics. He busted out with a quartet of posts supporting the firing of Shaka Smart. Pretty blah posts with no insight and poor usage of the English language, such as "hope u cant be right--------if he works out it will be a miracle !!ITS A MIRACLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is not the man ------He proved it by bringing in that one year not a wonder ___________________________________________________We all felt good about it but we see how that feel good worked out"

How that feel good worked out? Who says that?

He posted on baseball a couple of times:

"we looked lost coach couldnt find pitchers mound pitchers lost site of plate"

Then he got a little paranoid.

"my screen says my logins are compromised at surly ? whats the deal just been ignoring them"

Another sports post, a truly dumb one...Somebody posted Vegas's predicted win totals on the football board, and JD had this to say:

"is this football or basketball ?"

Really? 

He started his first and last thread on May 5 -- it's the John Kerry one, and he kicked it off with a Breitbart link. Right out of the box he went four points in the red. 

His written English is clumsy in that Russian way, as this post shows: "rest of world supports treaty---- when did rest of world start dictating US policy  ?       Swiftboating John THE  Coward Kerry-----------------------DONT EVER FORGET"

Not the missing "thes." Also, he doesn't seem to know that "Swiftboating" means using dishonorable tactics against a political opponent. He seems to think it is Kerry's pejorative nickname. (That post took him six more points in the red.)

More poor English:

"Seems to me your remark is from a closet lib. that strikes blindly out at any and all conservatives hoping for a reaction-------well u got it but the point is as a conservative you speak out or join the libs ,"

He consistently misuses "that" in place of "who"; that mistake is repeated in other posts. 

Anyway, that thread was the end of the line for him. He hasn't logged in since May 12. 

It would be interesting to see what handle fired up around that time. 

And if joe dillon (Google turns up only a very obscure utility baseball player for possible inspiration for that name) is / was a Russian troll, it would show attempts at sophistication, in that they try to wade into sports before they get turned loose on the politics boards. This guy was a total fail as a poster, Russkie or not, but I think we should be aware that it's possible that they have learned to spread posts around.

Or all of this could be bullshit on my part. My tinfoil hat is a little tight right now -- I need to loosen up the brim a little. 

 

 

 

 

 

On the old board, there was a guy named coffeedillon who for sure was an old American man, but struggled with English just like that.  I'm not sure if he is around anymore though.

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14 hours ago, achooloco said:

Yeah, he has been signaled as having strong view points but without any animosity. He is not a sock; just entitled to his opinion and let’s leave it at that.

for this thread, there are folks who have gotten socks to... well not sure what is the point. Is surly/shaggy big enough to get active measures? Maybe but .. really? Surly? Damn, them Russians fucking thorough. The cia can nip it in the bud with 5-10 fake interest boards and congregate counter disinformation from there. That or just knock them off the net. Why not? It ain’t a human right they could argue they deserve when they deny so many others to their people. Fuck them, nsa clip them. We got an asshole in chief, do it. Swang them big mericana balls, America first!

"Big" is a relative term.  We have a pretty balanced and active political forum and actual discussion.  Facebook with intact privacy settings isn't necessarily an open audience.  Neither are comment sections of news sites, fake news or otherwise.  Surly is just about as good a place for Russians to post as anywhere else.

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Here's an example. Annie is a 'new' account, 12 posts. 3 of them are shitting on the thread discussing how people will vote in 2018. All 3 posts are troll posts that convey familiarity with the personality of the posters. It looks pretty obvious this is someone's sock/troll.   

This board is run-over with socks/trolls and it's a huge drag on the discourse on here. We're finally kind of able to discuss things as adults at times, then some new account throws a bomb and it fucks it up. 

They are also circle-jerking each other for reputation. Start paying attention to who is posting and then pos-repping what, you'll see a bunch of accounts you've never heard of posting and pos-repping the others you've never heard of.  

We might want to consider banning new posters from posting in the politics threads for 3 months to prevent these sock/troll accounts.

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What's curious to me is that I recognize nearly all of the liberal posters here.  I recognize the traditional conservatives/anti-Trump people like Brisket and ChiTownHorn.  I only recognize a few of the Trumpers:  Onboard, Tahoe, Dolemite, and Slorch.  Maybe one or two more that I'm drawing a blank on.

Most of these Trumpers and conservatives weren't posting under these handles on Shaggy.  Why are you suddenly hiding who you are?   

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On 7/6/2018 at 9:48 PM, Tom said:

What's curious to me is that I recognize nearly all of the liberal posters here.  I recognize the traditional conservatives/anti-Trump people like Brisket and ChiTownHorn.  I only recognize a few of the Trumpers:  Onboard, Tahoe, Dolemite, and Slorch.  Maybe one or two more that I'm drawing a blank on.

Most of these Trumpers and conservatives weren't posting under these handles on Shaggy.  Why are you suddenly hiding who you are?   

Good point.  'Cept I ain't a Trumper.

 

 

I post what i'm gonna say and roll with it.  I enjoy the discussion.   I post to share a POV and respect that of others.

That being said, there is most definitely a "bully" mindset in the political forum. The leftists try to shout down anyone with whom they disagree and then claim they are centrists( self-diagnosed, of course.)  Instead of forming an opposing viewpoint in a post, lazy people just neg.  You and I had our own runaround with that bullshit.   Fuck, just tell me I'm wrong and why you think so.  Why is my conservatism such a threat?   Posters will deny that this environment exists.  The evidence says it does.

I  too, hate the socks.  Always have.  I hate the little fake trolly accounts.  Neggers are in the same boat.  I don't neg first, unless it is a sock or troll.  Whether one agrees or disagrees( many) with me, my shit is out there for all to see.  I treat this place like a bar/ cotton gin/ barber shop/ Dairy Queen where we can have a drink and talk shit and when we walk out the door and see each other out in town, we are neighbors and citizens in the same community.  Maybe that is too tra-la-la, but that's how i view it.  The potshot neggers are people who don't have a take and would get their ass kicked in real life, but they hide behind the anonymity of the web.  I am not crying about neg, but rather answering your question in your post.

I do like it that for the most part we can post our views and roll with it.  Obviously the board is appealing to me, because here I am...but i hope what I described above answers at least part of your question.

 

Maybe that's a lot of words to say that those missing posters are just pussies...or bad navigators of the internet.

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Good point.  'Cept I ain't a Trumper.

That being said, there is most definitely a "bully" mindset in the political forum. The leftists try to shout down anyone with whom they disagree and then claim they are centrists( self-diagnosed, of course.)  Instead of forming an opposing viewpoint in a post, lazy people just neg.  You and I had our own runaround with that bullshit.   Fuck, just tell me I'm wrong and why you think so.  Why is my conservatism such a threat?   Posters will deny that this environment exists.  The evidence says it does.

 

this is he said she said, and schoolyard immaturity.  you feel like you are bullied by liberals because of your conservatism, but I guarantee you the liberals here feel equally bullied by the conservatives.  I think you are being over-sensitive.  people  will disagree with you, that is not "shouting you down".

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 Tom asked  for an explanation of the absence of conservative posters. I told you things that are frustrating to me. To the point in my post, if I felt threatened or overwhelmed, I wouldn’t fucking be here. The bottom line is, there is bullying and idiots that  shout down people who have an opposing view point. People Neg on here just for having a  different point of view, not because the post is offensive or targeting somebody. 

 

If you want to deny the reasons, that’s your own prerogative. You’re obviously not interested in the answer to his question. 

Again, if opposing POVs scared me, I wouldn’t constantly engage in the discussion, right?  IMHO, that is the actual appeal of CR/ politics.  I do want to know what others think.

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Hugo and 4 socks Dennis D, Bad Teammate and Seven make the CR board borderline unreadable.  Every conservative post is met with a snarky one liner containing “racist” “nazi” “ etc  

He is the Nancy Pelosi of the board. Site went to shit when he became the “voice”. 

Ban the IP and that board fixes it self

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Hugo and 4 socks Dennis D, Bad Teammate and Seven make the CR board borderline unreadable.  Every conservative post is met with a snarky one liner containing “racist” “nazi” “ etc  

He is the Nancy Pelosi of the board. Site went to shit when he became the “voice”. 

Ban the IP and that board fixes it self

I don't think Brian Fantana/DD/JimmyJames is Hugo. Honestly Hugo posts so much I don't think he would use socks, that would be 24/7 posting and require a few people in a team effort.

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On 7/5/2018 at 3:37 PM, Pods said:

... We're finally kind of able to discuss things as adults at times, ..

lulz.  The Politics board here has devolved from the [serious] mess that we had on Shaggy.  You probably like it better because there is more leftist circle jerking going on, but adult discussion?  With opposing arguments/viewpoints/ideas?  Not so much.  Hell, I can't even tell a light hearted joke in there lately without old timers who should know me better jumping on my ass with way too broad paint brushes.

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58 minutes ago, Barbara said:

I don't think Brian Fantana/DD/JimmyJames is Hugo. Honestly Hugo posts so much I don't think he would use socks, that would be 24/7 posting and require a few people in a team effort.

You are clearly someone's sock though... 3 posts since joining and all on the political board.

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5 hours ago, HOOK'EMHOOAH said:

You are clearly someone's sock though... 3 posts since joining and all on the political board.

Nobodies sock, just an opposing viewpoint that cannot be tolerated by the hysterical lefties.

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Barbara is a fat 40 year-old virgin wearing a wifebeater and drinking Lone Star in his trailer while alternating between trolling this board and posting earnestly on texags about how Jimbo is about to make aggy into the next Bama.

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Barbara is a fat 40 year-old virgin wearing a wifebeater and drinking Lone Star in his trailer while alternating between trolling this board and posting earnestly on texags about how Jimbo is about to make aggy into the next Bama.

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Hugo and 4 socks Dennis D, Bad Teammate and Seven make the CR board borderline unreadable.  Every conservative post is met with a snarky one liner containing “racist” “nazi” “ etc  

He is the Nancy Pelosi of the board. Site went to shit when he became the “voice”. 

Ban the IP and that board fixes it self

Stop being racist. Problem solved.

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Barbara is a fat 40 year-old virgin wearing a wifebeater and drinking Lone Star in his trailer while alternating between trolling this board and posting earnestly on texags about how Jimbo is about to make aggy into the next Bama.

Well that just shows you are a dumbass cuz Jimbo actually is from Bama and Saban is not so Jimbo has actual magic Bama jizm that he will spray all over us here in BCS with a fine mist like when the mosquito truck comes through cept it will be Jimbo in the truck pumpin that fog outen his manparts up all over and not only will the football team be actual Bama jizm mist good, but so will the leaves and trees and old frisbees and bigwheels left out in the yards.

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23 hours ago, slorch said:

 Tom asked  for an explanation of the absence of conservative posters. I told you things that are frustrating to me. To the point in my post, if I felt threatened or overwhelmed, I wouldn’t fucking be here. The bottom line is, there is bullying and idiots that  shout down people who have an opposing view point. People Neg on here just for having a  different point of view, not because the post is offensive or targeting somebody. 

 

If you want to deny the reasons, that’s your own prerogative. You’re obviously not interested in the answer to his question. 

Again, if opposing POVs scared me, I wouldn’t constantly engage in the discussion, right?  IMHO, that is the actual appeal of CR/ politics.  I do want to know what others think.

No one cares that you have a different opinion or that you're a conservative. People make fun of you because you're a dumbass who gets dunked on constantly. 

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No one cares that you have a different opinion or that you're a conservative. People make fun of you because you're a dumbass who gets dunked on constantly. 

Oh damn...burn on the internet.

 

You are sooooo right.  Conservative POVs are embraced on Surly.  That’s why there are so many posters willing to share them...

 

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23 hours ago, Mojo Hand said:

Annie is back as Barbara.  Both names registered on the same date, along with Doris and Francis, which he'll use next:

http://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/search/&type=core_members&start_after=1527120000&start_before=1527638400&group[4]=1&group[3]=1&group[10]=1&group[6]=1&group[7]=1

Barbara is banned, and Doris started posting today.   Who could have guessed it?   

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46 minutes ago, slorch said:

Oh damn...burn on the internet.

 

You are sooooo right.  Conservative POVs are embraced on Surly.  That’s why there are so many posters willing to share them...

 

I frequently post conservative points of view on Surly. The problem is that you don't know what conservative means.

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