Who turns where

[gsoda3 3283]

This is an intersection in my part of town.  Does lane 1 turn in to lane A?  Can 1 turn in to B also? Does 3 go straight while 1 and 2 turn in to A and B?

 

[immamac 43175]

1->A

2->B OR C

3->C

[Mother mopar 3324]

1->A
2->B OR C
3->C

Agree, is C a one-way @gsoda3?

[mdmost 43056]

What is C? Is that an entrance to a shopping center or is it a street? Is it a 2 way street or a 1 way street? 

 

[KYHorn 17201]

35 minutes ago, immamac said:

1->A

2->B OR C

3->C

 

14 minutes ago, Mother mopar said:

Agree, is C a one-way @gsoda3?

I think I disagree. 2 has no paint or (I assume) signage indicating it can turn while 1 does, so 1 is the only lane that can turn and should go to A. If they want to make B able to turn, they can paint it or add signs. Regardless, it's a bad design that was obviously completed piecemeal and/or without going through the trouble of merging the lanes prior to the intersection to make it clearer and safer.

[immamac 43175]

1 minute ago, KYHorn said:

 

I think I disagree. 2 has no paint or (I assume) signage indicating it can turn while 1 does, so 1 is the only lane that can turn and should go to A. If they want to make B able to turn, they can paint it or add signs. Regardless, it's a bad design that was obviously completed piecemeal and/or without going through the trouble of merging the lanes prior to the intersection to make it clearer and safer.

You can turn from any lane always unless it crosses another non-turn lane which is why 3 cannot turn. 2 can turn so long as 1 is a turn only lane. 

[gsoda3 3283]

1 hour ago, Mother mopar said:

Agree, is C a one-way @gsoda3?

C is an entrance into an apartment complex.

[Gene Parmesan 4016]

Seems pretty straight forward.  I'm guessing lane 1 gets backed up at busy times because it's the only lane marked for turn, and the people waiting get all road ragey when someone turns from lane 2.

[gsoda3 3283]

43 minutes ago, immamac said:

You can turn from any lane always unless it crosses another non-turn lane which is why 3 cannot turn. 2 can turn so long as 1 is a turn only lane. 

this is what i think however i can't find anything in the texas DMV handbook or in the texas transportation code that says that.  only thing i've been able to find supports the view that ONLY lane 1 can turn into A or B.  

 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10357]

lol, I know that intersection as my kid lives in the apartments (C is entrance).

Left turn lane is marked, center one is not. You are not legally allowed to turn left from center lane.  People will and do and no one is likely going to get a ticket.  That said if someone from lane 1 and lane 2 collide while both turning left, lane 2 will be at fault.

[KYHorn 17201]

25 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

lol, I know that intersection as my kid lives in the apartments (C is entrance).

Left turn lane is marked, center one is not. You are not legally allowed to turn left from center lane.  People will and do and no one is likely going to get a ticket.  That said if someone from lane 1 and lane 2 collide while both turning left, lane 2 will be at fault.

Agree, but if C is a 2-way, which seems increasingly likely, they really need to make 2 left turn only. 

[davidg 4038]

Doing doughnut burnouts in the center of intersection seems like the correct answer based on the pic.

[South Austin 52629]

Take a hard left from C and punch it.

[Mother mopar 3324]

C is an entrance into an apartment complex.

Thanks, which direction is the one way? That would play a role in #3.

[dcbc 14525]

1 -> A (or possibly A or B)

2 -> C

3 -> I'm guessing merge to C (might be a "lane ends" sign we can't see).

 

There's only one left turn lane (you can see the arrow on the pavement).  If it's anything like right turn rules, you have to keep the vehicle in the closest lane if it's safe to do so, but I don't know if there's a comparable rule for left turns, and the above statute seems to suggest that there isn't.  But there may be something akin to the "wide-right turn" violation, which I have seen twice in the last year as an excuse to pull over a car (and search).  Been keeping my right turns tighter as a result.

Edited September 23, 2023 by dcbc

[Guest]

Lane 3 needs a right turn only arrow on the pavement/ sign.  

Only lane 2 should be going into C

Only Lane 1 should be going into A or B.  If you want to give Lane 2 the option for tuning into Lane B, needs to be dotted line on pavement indicating the option, as well as option arrows on the pavement while approaching the intersection.

[gsoda3 3283]

14 hours ago, Mother mopar said:

On 9/22/2023 at 10:49 AM, gsoda3 said:

C is an entrance into an apartment complex.

Thanks, which direction is the one way? That would play a role in #3.

there's no one way street at that intersection.

[troph 24912]

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

In the absence of a “straight or turn” indicator on the pavement in 2, I definitely wouldn’t want to be involved in an accident where I was the guy turning left from 2.

[Jerry Callo 8734]

1-A

2-C

3-donuts

 

[Deej 76946]

On 9/22/2023 at 10:17 AM, BeardIP said:

Actually, I think 3 is straight only C, because to the right is a dead end:

 

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