Tech @ West Virginia espn+

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

I hope they enjoyed their time on the + because I foresee many, many more big12 matchups being aired/streamed on it. 

[Acropora 856]

Hahaha, fuck those clowns.  If the road to the big 12 championship goes through Lubbock, it's just a fucking pit stop on the way to the Rose Bowl.  Shitty team full of blowhards with a fucking high school clown coach.  Only reason they had any relevance was a few idiot oil money alumni.  Enjoy your shitty football team, shitty basketball team and hot but syphilitic women

1-3 with a win against Tarleton state. 

 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Acropora

[Guest]

11 hours ago, mdmost said:

Seriously, there's not a team left on our schedule that I want to hang half a hundred on more than Texas Tech. 

Yards?

[ITHorn 797]

It’s almost impressive to go +2 in turnover margin, give up less than 100 yards passing and hold the other team to 3-13 on third down and somehow play worse offensively. 

[hookemATL 11610]

16 hours ago, Bullneck said:

I haven't seen much about the new head coach except to say he seems to spend more time talking about how much he loves Lubbock and working the West Texas country boy angle.  He's all in on the "identity" stuff, but not much of a technician. 

Somewhere along the line he'll need to get in touch with whatever is lacking in their play.  

 

 

Of course he drinks that horseshit coffee. Fuckin chud. 

[Bullneck 18987]

15 hours ago, slorch said:

This sums it up pretty well.

 

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Zach Kittley is an American football coach who is currently the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Texas Tech University. He previously served in the same capacity at Western Kentucky University in 2021 and Houston Baptist University from 2018 to 2020. Wikipedia

Born: 1991 (age 32 years), Abilene, TX

Team: Texas Tech

 

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Texas Tech football: It is time to have a serious discussion about OC Zach Kittley

by Matthew Conner5 hours ago

We are four games into the 2023 Texas Tech football season and with the team sitting at just 1-3 on the year, everyone from the head coach to the assistant water boy needs to have their performance examined.  One person who is sure to come under heavy scrutiny this week following Saturday’s dreadful 20-13 loss at West Virginia is offensive coordinator Zach Kittley.  In fact, it may be time for Joey McGuire to start to insert himself into the offensive game planning.

The problem is that McGuire is not known as a strategic guru on either side of the ball.  Rather, his specialty is motivating players and building relationships both inside and outside of the football building.

Regardless, McGuire knows enough about football to have an offensive philosophy and it is time that he starts to assert some of his authority when it comes to how this team’s offensive attack is designed.  That’s because letting Kittley have free reign isn’t working.

Unless something catastrophic happens, Kittley is going to keep his job for the remainder of the season.  There is no mid-season replacement who is going to save the day given that changing an entire offensive philosophy during the season is impossible.  However, the 32-year-old Kittley does seem to need some guidance because his side of the football is failing in 2023.

The Texas Tech offense seems to have regressed under Kittley in year two

Despite bringing back all of last season’s playmakers outside of running back SaRodorick Thompson, and despite adding pieces such as receiver Drae McCray and two new offensive linemen, and despite having two QBs that the coaches believe have NFL talent, the offense has taken a significant downturn from last fall under Kittley’s watch.

Last year, despite having to rely on three different starting QBs for multiple games, Tech finished 22nd nationally at 461.4 yards per game.  This year, the offense is putting up only 405.9 yards per game after a 321-yard showing against a WVU team that many believe has one of the most suspect defenses in the Big 12.

What’s more, Tech is scoring 3.7 fewer points per game this year (31) than a season ago.  If that doesn’t seem like much, think about how different three points would have made the Wyoming and Oregon games in the 4th quarter.

Also, remember that 13 of this year’s points were scored in overtime against the Cowboys.  That means that Tech is averaging only 26 points per game in regulation.  Last year, Tech averaged 32.7 points in regulation.

We could belabor the point with more statistics but that isn’t necessary.  Even the most novice fan can see that something is broken when it comes to Kittley’s offense this year.

Kittley’s hesitancy to run Tahj Brooks is baffling

The way that Kittley structures his offense gives his quarterbacks the absolute freedom to change plays at the line.  He trusts his QBs to know the offense and to make the reads rather than having them look over to the sideline to get signals from the coaching staff as many schools do.

Thus, the fact that this offense is not running the ball with Tahj Brooks as much as it should is not completely the coordinator’s fault.  With that said, though, Kittley is guiding the offense and he should have more influence than anyone over what is being run.

Make no mistake, Kittley is a proponent of using Shough in the power run game despite the QB’s injury history.  That philosophy backfired once again in Morgantown as Shough suffered a broken leg while running the ball, the third year in a row that he has sustained a broken bone as a ball carrier.

Then, even after Shough was lost and Tech was down to Behren Morton and true freshman Jake Strong, Kittley still didn’t rely on his best offensive player, Tahj Brooks.  Even as Morton missed on his first six pass attempts of the game, Brooks was an afterthought for Kittley who gave his senior RB only three first-half carries as Tech fell into a 13-3 hole, a deficit that would never be overcome on the afternoon.

Sure, some of that could have been Morton changing the plays at the line but at some point, doesn’t Kittley need to pull Morton aside in those circumstances and tell him to give the freaking ball to a player who came into the game averaging over seven yards per carry?  Isn’t that what a coach is paid to do?

Meanwhile, Kittley’s game plan also seems to be failing.  He was out-schemed by the Wyoming and West Virginia defensive coordinators as the Tech offense appears to struggle after the 15-play game-opening script has been exhausted.  In fact, the Red Raiders have scored just nine total points in the second quarter this year.

That’s a time when the script is no longer guiding the offense and adjustments are being made on both sides.  Thus, it is concerning that this offense can’t seem to maintain any semblance of momentum after the first drive or two and the responsibility for that falls on the man calling the plays.

Kittley may not be a guru after all

What should concern us most about Kittley is that he’s never had wild success at this level of the sport.  He was seen as a guru when he was coaching at FCS school Houston Baptist or at Western Kentucky in Conference USA but at both of those stops, he had a future NFL QB in Bailey Zappe running his offense.

However, life in the Big 12 is a different animal.  Kittley is learning on the job as well given that this is just his sixth season as an OC at any level and his second at a Power 5 program.

Therefore, it is fair to wonder if Kittley is capable of putting his offense in the best position to succeed against top-flight Big 12 defenses.  Thus far, the answer is trending toward “No” given that in his 17 games as Tech’s OC, his offense has on six occasions failed to top 25 points in regulation.

Again, Kittley’s job should not be in jeopardy until this offseason at the earliest.  However, it is time we start acknowledging that the Texas Tech alum and former sounding board for Patrick Mahomes might not be the genius offensive dynamo that he was thought to be when he was hired.  If that is the case, then someone on the staff, preferably McGuire, needs to step in and help get this struggling offense out of its season-long rut because leaving Kittley to his own devices isn’t working.

 

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The lack of touches by Brooks arguably cost Tech both the Oregon and WVU game.  Nah, man, I believe the QB should be running more draws and shit.  Much better plays...

 

[Nueces River Rat 5529]

7 minutes ago, slorch said:

The lack of touches by Brooks arguably cost Tech both the Oregon and WVU game.  Nah, man, I believe the QB should be running more draws and shit.  Much better plays...

 

[C-Man 27049]

58 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

 

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In fact, it may be time for Joey McGuire to start to insert himself into the offensive game planning.

The problem is that McGuire is not known as a strategic guru on either side of the ball.  Rather, his specialty is motivating players and building relationships both inside and outside of the football building.

[ITHorn 797]

I don’t know if that was necessarily true yesterday. He set a career high in carries yesterday and WVU started to stack the box which is when the pass actually became an option for Tech late and got them back in it. 

[Bullneck 18987]

The part about Shough breaking a bone in each of the last three years kinda jumps out at me.  Some QBs (like Colt) really shouldn't be running the ball.

[Nueces River Rat 5529]

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

14 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

The part about Shough breaking a bone in each of the last three years kinda jumps out at me.  Some QBs (like Colt) really shouldn't be running the ball.

They kept getting bowman hurt too, didn’t they?

[Bullneck 18987]

1 hour ago, Nueces River Rat said:

I have a masters degree from Tech and don't even know who these people are.  

It seems like every decision they make is not based on any kind of thought process about football but rather keeping their big money boosters and fans happy.  Well, guess what: you don't win games, then people aren't going to be happy.  

Had that Chancellor not gotten all butt hurt about getting out maneuvered in contract negotiations by Mike Leach and drummed up some bogus accusations in order to fire him, Leach might still be there.  That set off a revolving door of coaches I've lost track of. They seemed to have arrived at the idea that there's enough coaching acumen (white guys who coached HS) in the area west of Ft. Worth to Amarillo to Midland (and maybe Odessa).  Reminds me of the time someone joked that David McWilliams thought you could win with guys from Wink, Texas.  Turns out, you can't. 

I'm tentatively planning on going to Thursday night game on November 2 when TCU comes to Lubbock.  Haven't seen a game there in ages.  

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

I doubt Leach would still be there, but it would be interesting AF if he were. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

The part about Shough breaking a bone in each of the last three years kinda jumps out at me.  Some QBs (like Colt) really shouldn't be running the ball.

Should we consider the results of the past 2 seasons in our game planning, with regard to player durability and unnecessary hits?

That's just fucking dumb.  There's no way it would happen again.

Texas Tech coaches:

 

[Droopy 2623]

8 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Had that Chancellor not gotten all butt hurt about getting out maneuvered in contract negotiations by Mike Leach and drummed up some bogus accusations in order to fire him, Leach might still be there.

Edited September 24, 2023 by Droopy

[GhostOfTomJoad 9307]

I doubt Leach would still be there, but it would be interesting AF if he were. 

Would be the first time an actual corpse was coaching an FBS team, but Leach's moldy bones would damn sure have a better record than 1-3 right now.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

1 minute ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

8 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

I doubt Leach would still be there, but it would be interesting AF if he were. 

Would be the first time an actual corpse was coaching an FBS team, but Leach's moldy bones would damn sure have a better record than 1-3 right now.

“Coach, should we punt?”

”He didn’t say ‘yes,’ let’s go for it.”

[Bullneck 18987]

9 minutes ago, Droopy said:

Dammit!  I forgot to check the website:  https://www.doadb.com/

I also forgot he died.  

 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Bullneck

[Ghost of LL 15483]

1 hour ago, Doc Daneeka said:

I doubt Leach would still be there, but it would be interesting AF if he were. 

If he’d have stayed in Lubbock, he would’ve gotten actual medical care in less than the two hours it took to drive to Jackson. Perhaps he would be alive and coaching.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

Just now, Ghost of LL said:

If he’d have stayed in Lubbock, he would’ve gotten actual medical care in less than the two hours it took to drive to Jackson. Perhaps he would be alive and coaching.

“Perhaps” isn’t all that different from “I doubt,” though, is?

[Hagbard Celine 10756]

16 hours ago, mdmost said:

Seriously, there's not a team left on our schedule that I want to hang half a hundred on more than Texas Tech. 

49-0 is our all-time high mark at fair park

 

why not both?