Surly kids who can't get into UT

[royiv 9454]

1 hour ago, ABSR said:

I don't dislike this...however, to say it is "free" is disingenuous.  Are the professors going to take pay cuts?  Are they going to sell buildings?  Are they going to teach by candlelight to save electricity or are they just going to get free electricity?

What this means is that someone else (tax payers or kids who's families make $100,000+) will cover those costs.  If they say no, we have a big pile of money we are going to use that we just have sitting around it begs the question of how that pile of money was created and from what sources?  Why is it not being used to lower tuition across the board, or improve the overall education being taught, and why was tuition too high to begin with?

To the $15K per year number, my guess is that for many students who have household income below $100K they are receiving some or maybe substantial amounts of federal aids and grants (not a bad thing), so the UT system is not covering Full costs for these students but only the delta between previous aid and zero which should be significantly less.  I would be curious to see the analysis done to estimate the average tuition removal for students falling into this bucket and how that compares to the average tuition paid by other students.

I also can't wait to see people turn down raises or pay increases in order to continue to not broach the $100K threshold.  Somewhat kidding about this, but I am sure there will be cases where people/families face this issue especially if it is not a graduated tuition break based on household income.

The UT System has a budget of approximately $28 billion in expenses. You’re picking some nits over something that accounts for 0.125% of the annual expenses for the System.

[jimmyjazz 46534]

7 minutes ago, royiv said:

The UT System has a budget of approximately $28 billion in expenses. You’re picking some nits over something that accounts for 0.125% of the annual expenses for the System.

I would guess we pay $35M to coaches.  Sark gets $10M alone.

[The Dog 44338]

Daughter got into pig today.

I've already said I am not wearing Arkansas shit or calling the hogs unless it's to slaughter!

But she can go to school there.

[TexasEd 8163]

How does the CAP route work?  Apply to UT- Austin and UTSA or just UT AUSTIN?  Not sure I understand how you get admitted into CAP as a graduating senior or do you wait until after 1+ years at UTSA and then apply?

 

Thanks

[jimmyjazz 46534]

2 hours ago, TexasEd said:

How does the CAP route work?  Apply to UT- Austin and UTSA or just UT AUSTIN?  Not sure I understand how you get admitted into CAP as a graduating senior or do you wait until after 1+ years at UTSA and then apply?

Apply to UT, they will inform as to whether or not CAP is an option.  There are multiple schools in the CAP orbit, and UT will designate one or more as options for each CAP student.  My son did UT-Tyler, my daughter did UTSA.  My son wasn't given UTSA as a choice, which (given his HS grades) made total sense.  Both are on the 40 Acres and will graduate soon.

[The Dog 44338]

Iowa State has entered the chat: 

https://www.iastate.edu/admission-and-aid/admissions/first-year-students/national-scholars/first-year-scholarship-awards/tx

 

[Horn of Gabriel 1866]

My daughter (16, HS sophomore) is telling me that she's heard that CAP will be discontinued by the time she graduates.  I haven't found anything on Google, anyone heard anything on this?  She's straight A student, in honors and a few AP classes, in band and extracurriculars but I don't think top 5% in our school in Leander ISD, which would require well >110-115 GPA.

[CooterBrown 18147]

 Anybody else mentally fucking done with all the scholarship applications?  At my kid's top choice, the general scholarship app has 6 essay questions.  Then the college of engineering's scholarship app had another 3 essay questions.  But, you gotta hedge your bets and fill out the scholarship apps at some other schools too...I've (I mean she) has written like 20+ essays at this point. Holy fuck it's a process.  I was surprised when the scholarship administrator at her first choice said that many scholarships have zero applicants. Now I know why. It's a pain in the ass...and we haven't even touched the FAFSA yet which every school requires you submit even though I know she won't qualify for any income based aid.

[Iceman 2820]

2 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

 Anybody else mentally fucking done with all the scholarship applications?  At my kid's top choice, the general scholarship app has 6 essay questions.  Then the college of engineering's scholarship app had another 3 essay questions.  But, you gotta hedge your bets and fill out the scholarship apps at some other schools too...I've (I mean she) has written like 20+ essays at this point. Holy fuck it's a process.  I was surprised when the scholarship administrator at her first choice said that many scholarships have zero applicants. Now I know why. It's a pain in the ass...and we haven't even touched the FAFSA yet which every school requires you submit even though I know she won't qualify for any income based aid.

You're not good and done until you sit through a prospective student session with other parents at Texas A&M, and the proctor says being an aggie can be more meaningful/ patriotic than military service. About 5 of us stood up( it was parents only) and one guy beat all of us to the punch, " If that's what you're telling my kid, we're done here."

Proctor backed off, and we went to break. Came back in and some other dude apologized and said that was not the message meant to be conveyed.

I didn't want to be there to begin with, but for it to even come out of his mouth...  I had zero doubt he was 100% sincere.

That was when the real prayer started on my part.  Pretty sure son never set foot on campus again.

Edited Tuesday at 01:00 AM by Iceman

[tx 3 putt 78026]

7 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

 Anybody else mentally fucking done with all the scholarship applications?  At my kid's top choice, the general scholarship app has 6 essay questions.  Then the college of engineering's scholarship app had another 3 essay questions.  But, you gotta hedge your bets and fill out the scholarship apps at some other schools too...I've (I mean she) has written like 20+ essays at this point. Holy fuck it's a process.  I was surprised when the scholarship administrator at her first choice said that many scholarships have zero applicants. Now I know why. It's a pain in the ass...and we haven't even touched the FAFSA yet which every school requires you submit even though I know she won't qualify for any income based aid.

 

chatgpt / ai 

rearrange it some, add some color because ai on their end will scan to determine if you used ai 

[CooterBrown 18147]

 
chatgpt / ai 
rearrange it some, add some color because ai on their end will scan to determine if you used ai 

I use Claude AI to check grammar, organization, and clarity. It’s a great tool and using it that way, AI doesn’t write it but it makes the essays much better.

[South Austin 52769]

15 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

and we haven't even touched the FAFSA yet which every school requires you submit even though I know she won't qualify for any income based aid.

The FAFSA forms were the biggest beating for something that made no difference in my daughter's financial aid.

[The Dog 44338]

18 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

I was surprised when the scholarship administrator at her first choice said that many scholarships have zero applicants.

Yup. That's why applying to as many as possible is worth the time. 

This is an example of "80% of life is just showing up."

[ABSR 5331]

On 12/3/2024 at 8:06 AM, South Austin said:

The FAFSA forms were the biggest beating for something that made no difference in my daughter's financial aid.

Last year was a SHIT show.  And for any parents who don't know, this is not just for your rising seniors.  It has to be completed every year they are in college.  It is greatly improved this year in that it now imports your tax forms from the IRS instead of you having to scan in EVERY PAGE and attach it to the system.

On 12/2/2024 at 4:32 PM, CooterBrown said:

 Anybody else mentally fucking done with all the scholarship applications?  At my kid's top choice, the general scholarship app has 6 essay questions.  Then the college of engineering's scholarship app had another 3 essay questions.  But, you gotta hedge your bets and fill out the scholarship apps at some other schools too...I've (I mean she) has written like 20+ essays at this point. Holy fuck it's a process.  I was surprised when the scholarship administrator at her first choice said that many scholarships have zero applicants. Now I know why. It's a pain in the ass...and we haven't even touched the FAFSA yet which every school requires you submit even though I know she won't qualify for any income based aid.

This is our second year in a row (and last) with this.  Now have one College Freshman and have HS senior.  What I have seen is that a lot of more middling schools (Texas Tech as an example) adds 6-8 additional essays, where I would normally not have thought they would/could do that.  My guess is this is to weed out kids who would just apply to them as a safety school with no real interest.  Makes less work for them to review and makes their yield numbers higher.