Survivor 45

[Texzilla58 4733]

I want to see Jeff come down on these quitters more harshly. They could have edited out or reshot his exit and not had that stupid blathering he put out there. That shit just encourages more losers to sign up who want a free vacation.

The contract should have some penalties for quitters like having to pay their own way back, banishment from all Survivor post show events, and total inability to use Survivor in their post show life like social media.

Too many applicants sitting at home who would have at least struck it out over these in weak sniveling turds.

[TonyTexas 10510]

27 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

I want to see Jeff come down on these quitters more harshly.

He somewhat does in this episode recap

https://ew.com/tv/survivor-45-jeff-probst-latest-victim-romanticized-quit-sean/

Edited October 21, 2023 by TonyTexas

[Texzilla58 4733]

That doesn’t read like harsh judgement to me. He’s giving a reason but he doesn’t try to humiliate the dude. We need more guilt, embarrassment, and shame in society instead of celebrating Sean’s fucking feelings.

[TonyTexas 10510]

25 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

That doesn’t read like harsh judgement to me. He’s giving a reason but he doesn’t try to humiliate the dude. We need more guilt, embarrassment, and shame in society instead of celebrating Sean’s fucking feelings.

I hear you. Need more TJ Lavin approach to quitting. 

[idigTexas 2288]

Amazing that two of the first four people to leave quit, and another should have...and they were all put on the same tribe to start.  The people in charge of casting and assigning teams need to be fired.  They are clearly suffering from underdog syndrome.   

I keep waiting for Jeff to give a speech, but maybe he sees no redeeming value in keeping any of these people. 

[Horn80 6119]

4 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

Amazing that two of the first four people to leave quit, and another should have...and they were all put on the same tribe to start.  The people in charge of casting and assigning teams need to be fired.  They are clearly suffering from underdog syndrome.   

I keep waiting for Jeff to give a speech, but maybe he sees no redeeming value in keeping any of these people. 

Complete casting failure.

[thrillhammer 683]

I get the feeling the Boston lawyer will also have to drop out. Though not voluntarily, more a physical/medical reason than mental/emotional.

[idigTexas 2288]

1 hour ago, thrillhammer said:

I get the feeling the Boston lawyer will also have to drop out. Though not voluntarily, more a physical/medical reason than mental/emotional.

They do seem to be hinting at that, but I would not call that one a casting failure, just bad luck.  Casting someone with that accent was the failure.  They were clearly hoping for another Boston Rob. 

Edited October 22, 2023 by idigTexas

[thrillhammer 683]

9 hours ago, idigTexas said:

They do seem to be hinting at that, but I would not call that one a casting failure, just bad luck.  Casting someone with that accent was the failure.  They were clearly hoping for another Boston Rob. 

hitting your head is bad luck.  i'm thinking it might be a medical condition, which they could have caught.  

[idigTexas 2288]

17 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

hitting your head is bad luck.  i'm thinking it might be a medical condition, which they could have caught.  

That depends on what it is.  We'll either find out or we won't.  I'm sure they all pass physicals and sign releases.  I'm not going to fault them if it's something obscure.  If he has a metal spike sticking out of his head, then sure, they should probably catch that.  

[Lat22 4012]

When you insist on casting a bunch of goofballs, things like this are going to happen.  Of course, goofballs are a lot more entertaining than regular people.

[TrashMaster G 17552]

1 hour ago, idigTexas said:

That depends on what it is.  We'll either find out or we won't.  I'm sure they all pass physicals and sign releases.  I'm not going to fault them if it's something obscure.  If he has a metal spike sticking out of his head, then sure, they should probably catch that.  

This is the deep insight I come to surly for.

[idigTexas 2288]

51 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

This is the deep insight I come to surly for.

Don't we all.

[TrashMaster G 17552]

Dude did all that work to lose the weight and he couldn't lose that annoying-ass accent?

*SMH*

[idigTexas 2288]

With all the time they spent covering Reba drama, I was fairly certain they would end up at tribal, but nope.  Finally, a non-original Lulu goes home. 

I expect both Kaleb and Emily to make the merge, and editing suggests that they both go far, but perhaps it only feels that way because so much attention has been devoted to Lulu to to their epic fails.  I also expect Austin and Drew to survive for a while based on editing.    

I had not given any thought about Brando at all...and I certainly won't be doing so now.  

[Pokoloco 1281]

All the advantages Austin has are confusing. They need to explain them better.

[Knoxtnhorn 5974]

That was nuts.  Glad it didn't come back to bite Emily.  That group of 3 girls that J belonged to seem kind of bitchy.

[Pokoloco 1281]

I've never seen the shot in the dark work. 

I guess Emily voted for he ride or die to leave tho?

[thrillhammer 683]

3 hours ago, Pokoloco said:

I've never seen the shot in the dark work. 

I guess Emily voted for he ride or die to leave tho?

i didnt understand why she didnt vote for j.  that would have been the end of it with no revote needed.  i'm guessing she didnt want to put a target on her back.  kind of a cowardly "go along to get along" thing.

[Texzilla58 4733]

Kaleb going 12-0 for naught and then J getting a unanimous vote was pretty wild.

[idigTexas 2288]

3 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

i didnt understand why she didnt vote for j.  that would have been the end of it with no revote needed.  i'm guessing she didnt want to put a target on her back.  kind of a cowardly "go along to get along" thing.

Emily is having to pivot to an "under the radar" strategy with no natural allies left other than Kaleb, which means demonstrating that she is willing to work with others.  It almost bit her in the ass, though.  Either she was confident that J would get at least one vote from someone else, that J would become the obvious target on a revote, or she didn't bother thinking about the contingencies if Kaleb won his shot in the dark. 

Regardless, the remaining Lulus live to fight another day.  Sometimes a bigger threat emerges after something like this, but obviously it is in Kaleb's best interest to find an advantage or win immunity for the foreseeable future. 

I still think Kaleb and Emily are getting favorable editing, but that episode certainly tested my faith.  

 

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

3 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

i didnt understand why she didnt vote for j.  that would have been the end of it with no revote needed.  i'm guessing she didnt want to put a target on her back.  kind of a cowardly "go along to get along" thing.

There's an 83% chance that she would be the lone non-Kaleb vote in that scenario, unnecessarily putting a HUGE target on her back.  There's no upside there, and I'm sure even Kaleb would tell her to write his name down in that scenario.  I know the edit tried to make it seem like it was Emily vs J in the revote, but the actual votes made it clear that J was the obvious next in line to go and there was no true danger to Emily.

[Horn80 6119]

Austin had to be pleased with that outcome.  Guy wanted that sandwich!

[Native Horn 3501]

11 hours ago, Horn80 said:

Austin had to be pleased with that outcome.  Guy wanted that sandwich!

The dude can sure hold a grudge over a sandwich, can't he?  I'm sure I've never been THAT hungry, but c'mon man.

[TrashMaster G 17552]

1 hour ago, Native Horn said:

The dude can sure hold a grudge over a sandwich, can't he?  I'm sure I've never been THAT hungry, but c'mon man.

I kinda respect the attitude.

It was a tasty-looking sandwich.  And wimmin are supposed to make you sandwiches, not keep you from them.

[WBT 20564]

23 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

There's an 83% chance that she would be the lone non-Kaleb vote in that scenario, unnecessarily putting a HUGE target on her back.  There's no upside there, and I'm sure even Kaleb would tell her to write his name down in that scenario.  I know the edit tried to make it seem like it was Emily vs J in the revote, but the actual votes made it clear that J was the obvious next in line to go and there was no true danger to Emily.

With 13 people voting, how are they going to know it's her?  Seems pretty easy to just deny it.

[thrillhammer 683]

On 11/2/2023 at 4:33 PM, idigTexas said:

Emily is having to pivot to an "under the radar" strategy with no natural allies left other than Kaleb, which means demonstrating that she is willing to work with others.  It almost bit her in the ass, though.  Either she was confident that J would get at least one vote from someone else, that J would become the obvious target on a revote, or she didn't bother thinking about the contingencies if Kaleb won his shot in the dark. 

Regardless, the remaining Lulus live to fight another day.  Sometimes a bigger threat emerges after something like this, but obviously it is in Kaleb's best interest to find an advantage or win immunity for the foreseeable future. 

I still think Kaleb and Emily are getting favorable editing, but that episode certainly tested my faith.  

 

yeah, i get all that.  but what would it take, what was her mindset, to write down the name of the only ally in the game you have?  that must have been unnerving, unless there were some conversations edited out.   

[Knoxtnhorn 5974]

6 hours ago, WBT said:

With 13 people voting, how are they going to know it's her?  Seems pretty easy to just deny it.

Pretty good point.  Hell, Sifu hasn't figured out who voted for him among just 3.  I guess she just figured it was a done deal, and why upset the apple cart.  You'd have to really be thinking 5 steps ahead to make sense of voting alternately.  

[Knoxtnhorn 5974]

Also, I think there may have been some idea that a group from the other tribe may have banded together, turning the vote into more of a 7-6 scenario.  If that happened, and the vote turned out differently, it would have probably been pretty easy to figure out it was her.

[idigTexas 2288]

14 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

yeah, i get all that.  but what would it take, what was her mindset, to write down the name of the only ally in the game you have?  that must have been unnerving, unless there were some conversations edited out.   

Her mindset, as it has always been, was "what is best for my game."  Emily is very analytical and strategic, and is always playing the game.  Her problem is that she tends to play her game out loud, though she is starting to reign that in a bit.  

[Pokoloco 1281]

Turns out Dee is a badass.  Kitana or whatever TF her name is sucks ass. 

[idigTexas 2288]

I really thought Kaleb was going to be in it for a bit longer.  At least he made the jury. 

They made it look like telling Katurah about Bruce's idol is what turned her to the other side, but I think that was editing bullshit.  She would have been crazy to be willing to go to rocks if she could easily avoid it by voting out Kaleb. 

One Lulu left.  

[Pokoloco 1281]

They should have made Bruce think it was him so they could flush his idol.

[Texzilla58 4733]

I don’t know why folks aren’t more aggressive forcing idol holders to play them, even if the result is they use it and stay in the game.

[thrillhammer 683]

6 hours ago, idigTexas said:

I really thought Kaleb was going to be in it for a bit longer.  At least he made the jury. 

They made it look like telling Katurah about Bruce's idol is what turned her to the other side, but I think that was editing bullshit.  She would have been crazy to be willing to go to rocks if she could easily avoid it by voting out Kaleb. 

One Lulu left.  

telling katurah about bruces idol backfired on kaleb.  he thought it would be some bonding experience and show honesty and trustworthiness, but she quickly realized how many people her part of letting bruce get the idol to begin with and keeping her out of it.  all she got out of that is the opposite of honesty and trustworthiness.

[idigTexas 2288]

5 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

telling katurah about bruces idol backfired on kaleb.  he thought it would be some bonding experience and show honesty and trustworthiness, but she quickly realized how many people her part of letting bruce get the idol to begin with and keeping her out of it.  all she got out of that is the opposite of honesty and trustworthiness.

Yes, I think that was Kaleb's intent, and we were led by the editing to believe that it might work, but I don't believe for a second that Katurah ever had any intention of going through with it.  Willingly going to rocks when you have the power to avoid it would be colossally stupid.  I'm not a fan of Katurah, but I don't think she is that dumb.    

[Lat22 4012]

I hate to see her go, but I love a good blindside. And there’s nothing more irritating than a guy from Boston. 😆

[UTPhil2006 3807]

Girls alliance lasted (like every other reality show ever) a whole what, 3 hours?

[TrashMaster G 17552]

35 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

I hate to see her go, but I love a good blindside. And there’s nothing more irritating than a guy from Boston. 😆

Yeah, that was a fun blindside.  She was absolutely stunned.

[thrillhammer 683]

there was some major editing in that episode.  they showed pitching the idea of kellie to the girls but they just stared at him blankly and never brought it up again.  shocked that dee and julie voted for her.

drew and bruce are running the show.  it's theirs to lose at this point.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

Really liked Kellie, sad to see her go - but that was a truly great blindside. 

Also found it interesting that she's a lesbian and I don't think (?) it was mentioned once on the show.

[Native Horn 3501]

I thought this was one of the best episodes in recent memory.  Food auction was great, and immunity challenge was tough.  Add the blindside to it all, and made for a great show.  Kellie's wife is a lucky lady, she's cute af. 

[LonghornSean 3994]

Yeah the return of the auction was done very well and quite entertaining.

[Texzilla58 4733]

The auction is an all time favorite and I liked the twist of everyone finding different amounts of money, and the highest holder at the end losing the vote.

What a blindside. She might have been edited this way but she came across as arrogant in her position. Bruce winning immunity really changed the course. I wanted the Boston dude to go.

[Herpa Derpa 6125]

Loved the blindside. Also loved the auction being back.

Now we get the late season Survivor benefit of good looking ladies cleaning up for jury duty.

[speed817 19265]

Austin got his revenge for not getting his sandwich lol

[idigTexas 2288]

20 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

drew and bruce are running the show.  it's theirs to lose at this point.

Bruce isn't running anything.  He has good awareness, and is doing well winning advantages, but the only votes he is steering is when others let him.  Drew, Emily, and Dee are playing winning games, with Austin and Julie in positions to make moves. 

Bruce will go as far as his advantages take him.  People can win doing that, but it's the more difficult path.  He may have to become a "take them to the end because they can't win" person to save himself at some point, but I don't think that is his game.

[TrashMaster G 17552]

16 hours ago, speed817 said:

Austin got his revenge for not getting his sandwich lol

I respect his grudge

[thrillhammer 683]

8 hours ago, idigTexas said:

Bruce isn't running anything.  He has good awareness, and is doing well winning advantages, but the only votes he is steering is when others let him.  Drew, Emily, and Dee are playing winning games, with Austin and Julie in positions to make moves. 

Bruce will go as far as his advantages take him.  People can win doing that, but it's the more difficult path.  He may have to become a "take them to the end because they can't win" person to save himself at some point, but I don't think that is his game.

i get that, but hes winning in the sense that nobody likes him, they all want to vote him out, but he's still there.  they all know he has an idol, want to flush it out, but never do.   the girls should have stayed loyal to their alliance.  have no idea what advantage they think it is to them to keep boston jake and give up kellie.  dumb move.

[Knoxtnhorn 5974]

The editing was awesome.  It's rare that a blindside is essentially unknown until it happens.