2024 NFL DRAFT

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NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah Talks Chiefs-49ers, NFL Draft QBs & More w Rich Eisen | Full Interview

Edited February 13 by LTtxfan

[Fud 9696]

22 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

Kelce will be turning 35 next season. He’s not all that relevant to draft considerations or projecting if a WR can become a #1 target down the road. 

I'm late here, but I bet KC goes WR twice early in the draft, whether that's 1st and 3rd, or 2nd and 3rd, or whatever 

They need to inject more young cheap talent. They're going to have to spend cap to keep other positions in tact, and won't be able to spend on WR

[Fud 9696]

Just listing the Texas players and the top ten. Let me know if you don't have a sub and want to know anyone else

1) Caleb Williams
2) Marvin Harrison Jr
3) Malik Nabers
4) Drake Maye
5) Brock Bowers
6) Joe Alt
7) Rome Odunze
'8) Jayden Daniels
9) Olu Fashanu
10) Terrion Arnold

15) Byron Murphy II
33) T'Vondre Sweat
35) Adonai Mitchell
46) Xavier Worthy
50) Ja'Tavion Sanders
70) Jonathan Brooks

 

 

[Burt Macklin 19209]

8 minutes ago, Fud said:

Just listing the Texas players and the top ten. Let me know if you don't have a sub and want to know anyone else

1) Caleb Williams
2) Marvin Harrison Jr
3) Malik Nabers
4) Drake Maye
5) Brock Bowers
6) Joe Alt
7) Rome Odunze
'8) Jayden Daniels
9) Olu Fashanu
10) Terrion Arnold

15) Byron Murphy II
33) T'Vondre Sweat
35) Adonai Mitchell
46) Xavier Worthy
50) Ja'Tavion Sanders
70) Jonathan Brooks

 

 

Has Brugler always been that high on Sweat or is this a post-Senior Bowl jump in the rankings for him? It seems like Sweat had a good showing at the Senior Bowl and may climb a lot of peoples’ lists. 

[Fud 9696]

8 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Has Brugler always been that high on Sweat or is this a post-Senior Bowl jump in the rankings for him? It seems like Sweat had a good showing at the Senior Bowl and may climb a lot of peoples’ lists. 

In August and November he didn't have Sweat in his top 50, but I remember listening to him say during the season that he liked Sweat more than Jordan Davis, as similar architypes. He seems to put a cap on DTs who aren't consistent pass rushing threats

[Dr Fear 1286]

11 Combine invites if I counted correctly, very respectable.

[Burt Macklin 19209]

15 minutes ago, Fud said:

In August and November he didn't have Sweat in his top 50, but I remember listening to him say during the season that he liked Sweat more than Jordan Davis, as similar architypes. He seems to put a cap on DTs who aren't consistent pass rushing threats

Jordan Davis definitely seems like the comp to me, but I think Sweat is quite a bit more disruptive. Davis went 13th. I doubt Sweat goes that high, because Davis was overdrafted at 13. 
 

Sweat has a  good chance to sneak into the first round IMO. His film this year was absolutely elite despite not being a huge pass rusher. He’s kind of like the defensive version of an elite Guard or Center. His position caps his value, but you know you’re getting a great player. The Ravens took Tyler Lindenbaum 25th a couple years ago. I could see something similar to that for Sweat. 
 

Starting at 25, the Packers, Bills, Lions, Ravens, and Chiefs could all be potential landing spots for him. 

Edited February 13 by Burt Macklin

[MuellerHorn 4605]

22 minutes ago, Fud said:

In August and November he didn't have Sweat in his top 50, but I remember listening to him say during the season that he liked Sweat more than Jordan Davis, as similar architypes. He seems to put a cap on DTs who aren't consistent pass rushing threats

 

10 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Jordan Davis definitely seems like the comp to me, but I think Sweat is quite a bit more disruptive. Davis went 13th. I doubt Sweat goes that high, because Davis was overdrafted at 13. 
 

Sweat has a  good chance to sneak into the first round IMO. His film this year was absolutely elite despite not being a huge pass rusher. He’s kind of like the defensive version of an elite Guard or Center. His position caps his value, but you know you’re getting a great player. The Ravens took Tyler Lindenbaum 25th a couple years ago. I could see something similar to that for Sweat. 
 

Starting at 25, the Packers, Bills, Lions, Ravens, and Chiefs could all be potential landing spots for him. 

Sweat will measure a few inches shorter than Davis did (6’6, 341), but the biggest difference will be their overall athleticism testing. Davis ran a 4.78 40 and broad jumped 10’3 (the former is rare air, while the latter was a record for a player over 300 pounds). Those two items are why he was drafted 13th - athletic potential. 

However, I think Sweat is a better player and agree he’s more disruptive. 
 

[ousux 5635]

I just don't see that high of value for Dallas Turner... seems like he'll be a real bust in NFL

He won't last long if he insists on driving NFL QB's into the turf, but he still has value.

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11 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

11 Combine invites if I counted correctly, very respectable.

Murphy, Sweat, Mitchell, Worthy, Sanders, Brooks, Ford, Jones, Watts, Whittington, and ....? I can't even remember the punter's name. The punter? I feel like I'm forgetting someone else.

[Fud 9696]

2 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

 

Sweat will measure a few inches shorter than Davis did (6’6, 341), but the biggest difference will be their overall athleticism testing. Davis ran a 4.78 40 and broad jumped 10’3 (the former is rare air, while the latter was a record for a player over 300 pounds). Those two items are why he was drafted 13th - athletic potential. 

However, I think Sweat is a better player and agree he’s more disruptive. 
 

The biggest difference will be that Sweat can actually stay on the field

Davis didn't play on 3rd downs for Georgia and there were questions about if his effectiveness would drop if he had to play more snaps 

[ousux 5635]

Murphy, Sweat, Mitchell, Worthy, Sanders, Brooks, Ford, Jones, Watts, Whittington, and ....? I can't even remember the punter's name. The punter? I feel like I'm forgetting someone else.

Ryan Sanborn. Hi Tom, how is life down in America's dong?

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3 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

 

Sweat will measure a few inches shorter than Davis did (6’6, 341), but the biggest difference will be their overall athleticism testing. Davis ran a 4.78 40 and broad jumped 10’3 (the former is rare air, while the latter was a record for a player over 300 pounds). Those two items are why he was drafted 13th - athletic potential. 

However, I think Sweat is a better player and agree he’s more disruptive. 
 

Good points. To me, why is being a few inches taller, when players are between 6'3" and 6'6", at DT, a good thing? Why in the fuck does anyone care about a 40 time for a DT?

Jordan Davis was always given credit for shit he "could" do versus necessarily doing it. It's absurd to me that Sweat could go as many as 50 picks behind him when Sweat has fine measurables and tape to match belief in his upside.

I talked to a friend who was dealing with Senior Bowl related scouting stuff and he said that the buzz going into the week regarding the DTs was seeing them against "better" IOL than Big 12 IOL. I said that was fucking stupid. Go watch the Bama tape. Christ.

3 minutes ago, ousux said:

On 1/23/2024 at 10:09 AM, LTtxfan said:

I just don't see that high of value for Dallas Turner... seems like he'll be a real bust in NFL

He won't last long if he insists on driving NFL QB's into the turf, but he still has value.

Dallas Turner, who @Fud will defend as though he's related, is the prototypical NFL bust. The guy has a clear on/off switch that he can flip whenever he likes to do so. Typically, he only likes to flip it on when money is on the line or when he gets to go up against the sisters of the poor and their teams. He lit up a few shitty teams late his freshman season. He got overhyped heading into his sophomore season and did absolutely nothing and took the year off. Then his JR year, he shit all himself against Texas, moped, and then played up in a few games with a lot of eyeballs on them and money on the line. 

What that piece of shit excelled at was hammering QBs deliberately into the turf. He's as dirty as they come out of college, ranking alongside the likes of Vontez Burfict. The guy managed to end games, parts of seasons or seasons for no less than 4 QBs while at Bama, exhibiting the same behavior each time - late hits attempting to pin the helpless QB's shoulder into the turf. I continue to root for him to have a brutal career-ending injury. 

[Scholz 12301]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Dallas Turner

[Dr Fear 1286]

Murphy, Sweat, Mitchell, Worthy, Sanders, Brooks, Ford, Jones, Watts, Whittington, and ....? I can't even remember the punter's name. The punter? I feel like I'm forgetting someone else.

Keilan Robinson

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11 minutes ago, ousux said:

16 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Murphy, Sweat, Mitchell, Worthy, Sanders, Brooks, Ford, Jones, Watts, Whittington, and ....? I can't even remember the punter's name. The punter? I feel like I'm forgetting someone else.

Ryan Sanborn. Hi Tom, how is life down in America's dong?

Turns out it was Keilan Robinson. I knew I was forgetting someone. Ryan Sanborn is probably interviewing for accounting jobs at Big 4 firms as this is typed.

[Fud 9696]

7 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Dallas Turner, who @Fud will defend as though he's related, is the prototypical NFL bust.

IIRC, I pointed out why he'll get drafted high, I didn't endorse the pick 

I'd avoid drafting edge rushers high in this draft, although if guys fall then at some point it makes sense to scoop them up 

[ousux 5635]

Turns out it was Keilan Robinson. I knew I was forgetting someone. Ryan Sanborn is probably interviewing for accounting jobs at Big 4 firms as this is typed.

Touche'

[The Dog 44771]

Full list of combine invites: https://www.nfl.com/news/full-list-of-prospects-invited-to-2024-nfl-scouting-combine?campaign=Twitter_nfl_cfb

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QUARTERBACKS

• Jayden Daniels, LSU
• Sam Hartman, Notre Dame
• Devin Leary, Kentucky
• Drake Maye, North Carolina
• J.J. McCarthy, Michigan
• Joe Milton III, Tennessee
• Bo Nix, Oregon
• Michael Penix Jr., Washington
• Michael Pratt, Tulane
• Spencer Rattler, South Carolina
• Austin Reed, Western Kentucky
• Kedon Slovis, BYU
• Jordan Travis, Florida State
• Caleb Williams, USC

RUNNING BACKS

• Rasheen Ali, Marshall
• Braelon Allen, Wisconsin
• Emani Bailey, TCU
• Trey Benson, Florida State
• Jonathon Brooks, Texas
• Blake Corum, Michigan
• Isaiah Davis, South Dakota State
• Ray Davis, Kentucky
• Daijun Edwards, Georgia
• Audric Estimé, Notre Dame
• Frank Gore Jr., Southern Mississippi
• Isaac Guerendo, Louisville
• George Holani, Boise State
• Bucky Irving, Oregon
• Dillon Johnson, Washington
• Jawhar Jordan, Louisville
• Dylan Laube, New Hampshire
• MarShawn Lloyd, USC
• Jase McClellan, Alabama
• Kendall Milton, Georgia
• Keilan Robinson, Texas
• Cody Schrader, Missouri
• Will Shipley, Clemson
• Jaden Shirden, Monmouth
• Tyrone Tracy Jr., Purdue
• Kimani Vidal, Troy
• Michael Wiley, Arizona
• Miyan Williams, Ohio State
• Jaylen Wright, Tennessee

WIDE RECEIVERS

• Javon Baker, UCF
• Jermaine Burton, Alabama
• Jalen Coker, Holy Cross
• Keon Coleman, Florida State
• Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
• Jacob Cowing, Arizona
• Ryan Flournoy, Southeast Missouri State
• Troy Franklin, Oregon
• Anthony Gould, Oregon State
• Lideatrick Griffin, Mississippi State
• Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
• Jha'Quan Jackson, Tulane
• Cornelius Johnson, Michigan
• Xavier Legette, South Carolina
• Luke McCaffrey, Rice
• Ladd McConkey, Georgia
• Jalen McMillan, Washington
• Bub Means, Pittsburgh
• Adonai Mitchell, Texas
• Malik Nabers, LSU
• Rome Odunze, Washington
• Ricky Pearsall, Florida
• Ja'Lynn Polk, Washington
• Brenden Rice, USC
• Tayvion Robinson, Kentucky
• Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint, Georgia
• Ainias Smith, Texas A&M
• Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
• Jamari Thrash, Louisville
• Devaughn Vele, Utah
• Devontez Walker, North Carolina
• Malik Washington, Virginia
• Tahj Washington, USC
• Xavier Weaver, Colorado
• Jordan Whittington, Texas
• Isaiah Williams, Illinois
• Johnny Wilson, Florida State
• Roman Wilson, Michigan
• Xavier Worthy, Texas

 

TIGHT ENDS

• Erick All, Iowa
• AJ Barner, Michigan
• Jaheim Bell, Florida State
• Brock Bowers, Georgia
• Devin Culp, Washington
• Dallin Holker, Colorado State
• Theo Johnson, Penn State
• Trey Knox, South Carolina
• Tanner McLachlan, Arizona
• Tip Reiman, Illinois
• Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas
• Ben Sinnott, Kansas State
• Brevyn Spann-Ford, Minnesota
• Cade Stover, Ohio State
• Jack Westover, Washington
• Jared Wiley, TCU

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN

• Isaiah Adams, Illinois
• Joe Alt, Notre Dame
• Kiran Amegadjie, Yale
• Gottlieb Ayedze, Maryland
• Karsen Barnhart, Michigan
• Graham Barton, Duke
• Cooper Beebe, Kansas State
• Keaton Bills, Utah
• Tanor Bortolini, Wisconsin
• Javion Cohen, Miami
• Andrew Coker, TCU
• Brandon Coleman, TCU
• Frank Crum, Wyoming
• Anim Dankwah, Howard
• Ethan Driskell, Marshall
• Kingsley Eguakun, Florida
• Josiah Ezirim, Eastern Kentucky
• Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Penn State
• Troy Fautanu, Washington
• Blake Fisher, Notre Dame
• Jeremy Flax, Kentucky
• Javon Foster, Missouri
• Zach Frazier, West Virginia
• Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State
• X'Zauvea Gadlin, Liberty
• Nick Gargiulo, South Carolina
• Delmar Glaze, Maryland
• Matt Goncalves, Pittsburgh
• Tylan Grable, UCF
• Garret Greenfield, South Dakota State
• Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma
• C.J. Hanson, Holy Cross
• Christian Haynes, Connecticut
• LaDarius Henderson, Michigan
• Christian Jones, Texas
• Matthew Jones, Ohio State
• Trente Jones, Michigan
• Trevor Keegan, Michigan
• Jarrett Kingston, USC
• Brady Latham, Arkansas
• JC Latham, Alabama
• Sataoa Laumea, Utah
• Matt Lee, Miami
• KT Leveston Jr., Kansas State
• Beaux Limmer, Arkansas
• Christian Mahogany, Boston College
• Mason McCormick, South Dakota State
• Dylan McMahon, N.C. State
• Amarius Mims, Georgia
• Jacob Monk, Duke
• Jordan Morgan, Arizona
• Hunter Nourzad, Penn State
• Drake Nugent, Michigan
• Patrick Paul, Houston
• Julian Pearl, Illinois
• Prince Pines, Tulane
• Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon
• Dominick Puni, Kansas
• Andrew Raym, Oklahoma
• Layden Robinson, Texas A&M
• Roger Rosengarten, Washington
• Walter Rouse, Oklahoma
• Nick Samac, Michigan State
• Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
• Jalen Sundell, North Dakota State
• Nathan Thomas, Louisiana
• Charles Turner III, LSU
• Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia
• Caedan Wallace, Penn State
• Zak Zinter, Michigan

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN

• Austin Booker, Kansas
• Solomon Byrd, USC
• DeWayne Carter, Duke
• Nelson Ceaser, Houston
• Myles Cole, Texas Tech
• Jaden Crumedy, Mississippi State
• Tyler Davis, Clemson
• Brandon Dorlus, Oregon
• Justin Eboigbe, Alabama
• Jonah Elliss, Utah
• Braden Fiske, Florida State
• Gabe Hall, Baylor
• Michael Hall Jr., Ohio State
• Jaylen Harrell, Michigan
• Marcus Harris, Auburn
• Jalyx Hunt, Houston Christian
• Adisa Isaac, Penn State
• Brennan Jackson, Washington State
• McKinnley Jackson, Texas A&M
• Javontae Jean-Baptiste, Notre Dame
• Trajan Jeffcoat, Arkansas
• Jordan Jefferson, LSU
• Kris Jenkins, Michigan
• Cedric Johnson, Mississippi
• Mohamed Kamara, Colorado State
• Marshawn Kneeland, Western Michigan
• Laiatu Latu, UCLA
• Logan Lee, Iowa
• Zion Logue, Georgia
• Fabien Lovett Sr., Florida State
• Braiden McGregor, Michigan
• Byron Murphy II, Texas
• Myles Murphy, North Carolina
• Jer'Zhan Newton, Illinois
• Eyabi Okie-Anoma, Charlotte
• Ruke Orhorhoro, Clemson
• Keith Randolph Jr., Illinois
• Chop Robinson, Penn State
• Darius Robinson, Missouri
• Justin Rogers, Auburn
• Maason Smith, LSU
• Javon Solomon, Troy
• T'Vondre Sweat, Texas
• Leonard Taylor III, Miami
• Xavier Thomas, Clemson
• Bralen Trice, Washington
• David Ugwoegbu, Houston
• Jared Verse, Florida State
• Eric Watts, Connecticut
• Mekhi Wingo, LSU

LINEBACKERS

• Michael Barrett, Michigan
• JD Bertrand, Notre Dame
• Tatum Bethune, Florida State
• Chris Braswell, Alabama
• Aaron Casey, Indiana
• Steele Chambers, Ohio State
• Junior Colson, Michigan
• Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M
• Kalen DeLoach, Florida State
• Khalid Duke, Kansas State
• Tommy Eichenberg, Ohio State
• Jaylan Ford, Texas
• Easton Gibbs, Wyoming
• Cedric Gray, North Carolina
• Ty'Ron Hopper, Missouri
• Jontrey Hunter, Georgia State
• Curtis Jacobs, Penn State
• Tyrice Knight, UTEP
• Marist Liufau, Notre Dame
• Jordan Magee, Temple
• Darius Muasau, UCLA
• Gabriel Murphy, UCLA
• Maema Njongmeta, Wisconsin
• Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Clemson
• Zion Tupuola-Fetui, Washington
• Dallas Turner, Alabama
• Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington
• Trevin Wallace, Kentucky
• Nathaniel Watson, Mississippi State
• Payton Wilson, N.C. State

 

DEFENSIVE BACKS

• Kris Abrams-Draine, Missouri
• Daijahn Anthony, Mississippi
• Terrion Arnold, Alabama
• Cole Bishop, Utah
• Beau Brade, Maryland
• Millard Bradford, TCU
• Jarvis Brownlee Jr., Louisville
• Javon Bullard, Georgia
• Calen Bullock, USC
• Jaylon Carlies, Missouri
• Caelen Carson, Wake Forest
• Ryan Cooper Jr., Oregon State
• Cooper DeJean, Iowa
• M.J. Devonshire, Pittsburgh
• Marcellas Dial, South Carolina
• Johnny Dixon, Penn State
• Willie Drew, Virginia State
• Renardo Green, Florida State
• Kamal Hadden, Tennessee
• Dominique Hampton, Washington
• Myles Harden, South Dakota
• Daequan Hardy, Penn State
• Cam Hart, Notre Dame
• Jaden Hicks, Washington State
• Khyree Jackson, Oregon
• DJ James, Auburn
• Carlton Johnson, Fresno State
• Isaiah Johnson, Syracuse
• Elijah Jones, Boston College
• Jarrian Jones, Florida State
• Jaylen Key, Alabama
• Kamren Kinchens, Miami
• Kalen King, Penn State
• Kamari Lassiter, Georgia
• Dwight McGlothern, Arkansas
• Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
• Patrick McMorris, Cal
• Max Melton, Rutgers
• Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
• Malik Mustapha, Wake Forest
• Josh Newton, TCU
• Tyler Nubin, Minnesota
• Kitan Oladapo, Oregon State
• Tyler Owens, Texas Tech
• Andru Phillips, Kentucky
• Deantre Prince, Mississippi
• Nehemiah Pritchett, Auburn
• Josh Proctor, Ohio State
• Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri
• Decamerion Richardson, Mississippi State
• Demani Richardson, Texas A&M
• Christian Roland-Wallace, USC
• Mike Sainristil, Michigan
• Andre' Sam, LSU
• Jaylin Simpson, Auburn
• Tykee Smith, Georgia
• Chau Smith-Wade, Washington State
• Tarheeb Still, Maryland
• T.J. Tampa, Iowa State
• Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, Texas Tech
• Ro Torrence, Arizona State
• Sione Vaki, Utah
• Josh Wallace, Michigan
• Ryan Watts, Texas
• Nate Wiggins, Clemson
• Evan Williams, Oregon
• James Williams, Miami

SPECIALISTS

• Joshua Karty, K, Stanford
• Cam Little, K, Arkansas
• Harrison Mevis, K, Missouri
• Ryan Rehkow, P, BYU
• Will Reichard, K, Alabama
• Tory Taylor, P, Iowa

 

[Wulaw Horn 19560]

Look forward to seeing measurements for the fat Mizzou kicker. 

[ousux 5635]

Fuck yeah! Every Longhorn expected is in including JWhitt and Ryan Watts. Feels weird actually having multiple Longhorns that will be drafted in back to back years.

[Not a cat 5804]

Looking at that combine invite list, it's the first time I've seen Sam Hartman mentioned in the draft.  Seems like that guy could be a purdy 2.0 if he gets in the right system.  Or maybe I just remember him from qb1 as one of the non-douchy guys so I'm just hoping he'll do well.

[tx 3 putt 78466]

 

[BurntOrange&White 41646]

41 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Bruh will be going pro in something other than sports.

[irishtexan 11692]

Texas has combine participants at every position group on offense and defense except QB, who would have been there if he had declared for the draft, and P/K. That's how you build a fucking team. Have a guy who will play on Sundays at every position group. It's just that easy. 

 

[The Dog 44771]

Latest ESPN mock draft (from Field Yates) has Murphy going #13 to the Raiders and Mitchell going to the Chefs at #32. 

Biggest discussion point for now on the draft is what decision the Bears make at #1 - do they stick with Fields and trade down or launch him and take Williams? 

Another mock I saw had a pick that I actually liked even though I'm on the record as not liking him as a first round prospect - McCarthy to the Rams at #19.

If you like McCarthy's potential then this is the ideal spot for him as he gets to back up Stafford for a couple of years while developing (which he needs). Would be a page out of the Packers' playbook. 

[Fud 9696]

25 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Latest ESPN mock draft (from Field Yates) has Murphy going #13 to the Raiders and Mitchell going to the Chefs at #32. 

Biggest discussion point for now on the draft is what decision the Bears make at #1 - do they stick with Fields and trade down or launch him and take Williams? 

Another mock I saw had a pick that I actually liked even though I'm on the record as not liking him as a first round prospect - McCarthy to the Rams at #19.

If you like McCarthy's potential then this is the ideal spot for him as he gets to back up Stafford for a couple of years while developing (which he needs). Would be a page out of the Packers' playbook. 

It appears that all intel is that Chicago is going to take Caleb. As we get closer they'll probably try to muddy the waters, but it should be a shock of they don't take him. The question is what kind of draft haul are they getting for Fields? Probably something like a 2nd and a 4th

The Rams are drafting their first 1st round pick since 2016. I think they'll take an immediate impact guy rather than a backup QB. 

[Burt Macklin 19209]

On 2/13/2024 at 10:42 AM, MuellerHorn said:

 

Sweat will measure a few inches shorter than Davis did (6’6, 341), but the biggest difference will be their overall athleticism testing. Davis ran a 4.78 40 and broad jumped 10’3 (the former is rare air, while the latter was a record for a player over 300 pounds). Those two items are why he was drafted 13th - athletic potential. 

However, I think Sweat is a better player and agree he’s more disruptive. 
 

Yeah, his measurables certainly jumped him up, but 40 time is absolutely irrelevant to his play, and broad jump is also pretty useless if the guy hasn’t actually exhibited much explosiveness or disruptiveness in his game film. It was a dumb pick at the time by the Eagles even without the benefit of hindsight. 

[Vertigo 20461]

On 2/13/2024 at 10:32 AM, The Dog said:

Full list of combine invites: https://www.nfl.com/news/full-list-of-prospects-invited-to-2024-nfl-scouting-combine?campaign=Twitter_nfl_cfb

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QUARTERBACKS

• Jayden Daniels, LSU
• Sam Hartman, Notre Dame
• Devin Leary, Kentucky
• Drake Maye, North Carolina
• J.J. McCarthy, Michigan
• Joe Milton III, Tennessee
• Bo Nix, Oregon
• Michael Penix Jr., Washington
• Michael Pratt, Tulane
• Spencer Rattler, South Carolina
• Austin Reed, Western Kentucky
• Kedon Slovis, BYU
• Jordan Travis, Florida State
• Caleb Williams, USC

RUNNING BACKS

• Rasheen Ali, Marshall
• Braelon Allen, Wisconsin
• Emani Bailey, TCU
• Trey Benson, Florida State
• Jonathon Brooks, Texas
• Blake Corum, Michigan
• Isaiah Davis, South Dakota State
• Ray Davis, Kentucky
• Daijun Edwards, Georgia
• Audric Estimé, Notre Dame
• Frank Gore Jr., Southern Mississippi
• Isaac Guerendo, Louisville
• George Holani, Boise State
• Bucky Irving, Oregon
• Dillon Johnson, Washington
• Jawhar Jordan, Louisville
• Dylan Laube, New Hampshire
• MarShawn Lloyd, USC
• Jase McClellan, Alabama
• Kendall Milton, Georgia
• Keilan Robinson, Texas
• Cody Schrader, Missouri
• Will Shipley, Clemson
• Jaden Shirden, Monmouth
• Tyrone Tracy Jr., Purdue
• Kimani Vidal, Troy
• Michael Wiley, Arizona
• Miyan Williams, Ohio State
• Jaylen Wright, Tennessee

WIDE RECEIVERS

• Javon Baker, UCF
• Jermaine Burton, Alabama
• Jalen Coker, Holy Cross
• Keon Coleman, Florida State
• Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
• Jacob Cowing, Arizona
• Ryan Flournoy, Southeast Missouri State
• Troy Franklin, Oregon
• Anthony Gould, Oregon State
• Lideatrick Griffin, Mississippi State
• Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
• Jha'Quan Jackson, Tulane
• Cornelius Johnson, Michigan
• Xavier Legette, South Carolina
• Luke McCaffrey, Rice
• Ladd McConkey, Georgia
• Jalen McMillan, Washington
• Bub Means, Pittsburgh
• Adonai Mitchell, Texas
• Malik Nabers, LSU
• Rome Odunze, Washington
• Ricky Pearsall, Florida
• Ja'Lynn Polk, Washington
• Brenden Rice, USC
• Tayvion Robinson, Kentucky
• Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint, Georgia
• Ainias Smith, Texas A&M
• Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
• Jamari Thrash, Louisville
• Devaughn Vele, Utah
• Devontez Walker, North Carolina
• Malik Washington, Virginia
• Tahj Washington, USC
• Xavier Weaver, Colorado
• Jordan Whittington, Texas
• Isaiah Williams, Illinois
• Johnny Wilson, Florida State
• Roman Wilson, Michigan
• Xavier Worthy, Texas

 

TIGHT ENDS

• Erick All, Iowa
• AJ Barner, Michigan
• Jaheim Bell, Florida State
• Brock Bowers, Georgia
• Devin Culp, Washington
• Dallin Holker, Colorado State
• Theo Johnson, Penn State
• Trey Knox, South Carolina
• Tanner McLachlan, Arizona
• Tip Reiman, Illinois
• Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas
• Ben Sinnott, Kansas State
• Brevyn Spann-Ford, Minnesota
• Cade Stover, Ohio State
• Jack Westover, Washington
• Jared Wiley, TCU

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN

• Isaiah Adams, Illinois
• Joe Alt, Notre Dame
• Kiran Amegadjie, Yale
• Gottlieb Ayedze, Maryland
• Karsen Barnhart, Michigan
• Graham Barton, Duke
• Cooper Beebe, Kansas State
• Keaton Bills, Utah
• Tanor Bortolini, Wisconsin
• Javion Cohen, Miami
• Andrew Coker, TCU
• Brandon Coleman, TCU
• Frank Crum, Wyoming
• Anim Dankwah, Howard
• Ethan Driskell, Marshall
• Kingsley Eguakun, Florida
• Josiah Ezirim, Eastern Kentucky
• Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Penn State
• Troy Fautanu, Washington
• Blake Fisher, Notre Dame
• Jeremy Flax, Kentucky
• Javon Foster, Missouri
• Zach Frazier, West Virginia
• Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State
• X'Zauvea Gadlin, Liberty
• Nick Gargiulo, South Carolina
• Delmar Glaze, Maryland
• Matt Goncalves, Pittsburgh
• Tylan Grable, UCF
• Garret Greenfield, South Dakota State
• Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma
• C.J. Hanson, Holy Cross
• Christian Haynes, Connecticut
• LaDarius Henderson, Michigan
• Christian Jones, Texas
• Matthew Jones, Ohio State
• Trente Jones, Michigan
• Trevor Keegan, Michigan
• Jarrett Kingston, USC
• Brady Latham, Arkansas
• JC Latham, Alabama
• Sataoa Laumea, Utah
• Matt Lee, Miami
• KT Leveston Jr., Kansas State
• Beaux Limmer, Arkansas
• Christian Mahogany, Boston College
• Mason McCormick, South Dakota State
• Dylan McMahon, N.C. State
• Amarius Mims, Georgia
• Jacob Monk, Duke
• Jordan Morgan, Arizona
• Hunter Nourzad, Penn State
• Drake Nugent, Michigan
• Patrick Paul, Houston
• Julian Pearl, Illinois
• Prince Pines, Tulane
• Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon
• Dominick Puni, Kansas
• Andrew Raym, Oklahoma
• Layden Robinson, Texas A&M
• Roger Rosengarten, Washington
• Walter Rouse, Oklahoma
• Nick Samac, Michigan State
• Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
• Jalen Sundell, North Dakota State
• Nathan Thomas, Louisiana
• Charles Turner III, LSU
• Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia
• Caedan Wallace, Penn State
• Zak Zinter, Michigan

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN

• Austin Booker, Kansas
• Solomon Byrd, USC
• DeWayne Carter, Duke
• Nelson Ceaser, Houston
• Myles Cole, Texas Tech
• Jaden Crumedy, Mississippi State
• Tyler Davis, Clemson
• Brandon Dorlus, Oregon
• Justin Eboigbe, Alabama
• Jonah Elliss, Utah
• Braden Fiske, Florida State
• Gabe Hall, Baylor
• Michael Hall Jr., Ohio State
• Jaylen Harrell, Michigan
• Marcus Harris, Auburn
• Jalyx Hunt, Houston Christian
• Adisa Isaac, Penn State
• Brennan Jackson, Washington State
• McKinnley Jackson, Texas A&M
• Javontae Jean-Baptiste, Notre Dame
• Trajan Jeffcoat, Arkansas
• Jordan Jefferson, LSU
• Kris Jenkins, Michigan
• Cedric Johnson, Mississippi
• Mohamed Kamara, Colorado State
• Marshawn Kneeland, Western Michigan
• Laiatu Latu, UCLA
• Logan Lee, Iowa
• Zion Logue, Georgia
• Fabien Lovett Sr., Florida State
• Braiden McGregor, Michigan
• Byron Murphy II, Texas
• Myles Murphy, North Carolina
• Jer'Zhan Newton, Illinois
• Eyabi Okie-Anoma, Charlotte
• Ruke Orhorhoro, Clemson
• Keith Randolph Jr., Illinois
• Chop Robinson, Penn State
• Darius Robinson, Missouri
• Justin Rogers, Auburn
• Maason Smith, LSU
• Javon Solomon, Troy
• T'Vondre Sweat, Texas
• Leonard Taylor III, Miami
• Xavier Thomas, Clemson
• Bralen Trice, Washington
• David Ugwoegbu, Houston
• Jared Verse, Florida State
• Eric Watts, Connecticut
• Mekhi Wingo, LSU

LINEBACKERS

• Michael Barrett, Michigan
• JD Bertrand, Notre Dame
• Tatum Bethune, Florida State
• Chris Braswell, Alabama
• Aaron Casey, Indiana
• Steele Chambers, Ohio State
• Junior Colson, Michigan
• Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M
• Kalen DeLoach, Florida State
• Khalid Duke, Kansas State
• Tommy Eichenberg, Ohio State
• Jaylan Ford, Texas
• Easton Gibbs, Wyoming
• Cedric Gray, North Carolina
• Ty'Ron Hopper, Missouri
• Jontrey Hunter, Georgia State
• Curtis Jacobs, Penn State
• Tyrice Knight, UTEP
• Marist Liufau, Notre Dame
• Jordan Magee, Temple
• Darius Muasau, UCLA
• Gabriel Murphy, UCLA
• Maema Njongmeta, Wisconsin
• Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Clemson
• Zion Tupuola-Fetui, Washington
• Dallas Turner, Alabama
• Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington
• Trevin Wallace, Kentucky
• Nathaniel Watson, Mississippi State
• Payton Wilson, N.C. State

 

DEFENSIVE BACKS

• Kris Abrams-Draine, Missouri
• Daijahn Anthony, Mississippi
• Terrion Arnold, Alabama
• Cole Bishop, Utah
• Beau Brade, Maryland
• Millard Bradford, TCU
• Jarvis Brownlee Jr., Louisville
• Javon Bullard, Georgia
• Calen Bullock, USC
• Jaylon Carlies, Missouri
• Caelen Carson, Wake Forest
• Ryan Cooper Jr., Oregon State
• Cooper DeJean, Iowa
• M.J. Devonshire, Pittsburgh
• Marcellas Dial, South Carolina
• Johnny Dixon, Penn State
• Willie Drew, Virginia State
• Renardo Green, Florida State
• Kamal Hadden, Tennessee
• Dominique Hampton, Washington
• Myles Harden, South Dakota
• Daequan Hardy, Penn State
• Cam Hart, Notre Dame
• Jaden Hicks, Washington State
• Khyree Jackson, Oregon
• DJ James, Auburn
• Carlton Johnson, Fresno State
• Isaiah Johnson, Syracuse
• Elijah Jones, Boston College
• Jarrian Jones, Florida State
• Jaylen Key, Alabama
• Kamren Kinchens, Miami
• Kalen King, Penn State
• Kamari Lassiter, Georgia
• Dwight McGlothern, Arkansas
• Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
• Patrick McMorris, Cal
• Max Melton, Rutgers
• Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
• Malik Mustapha, Wake Forest
• Josh Newton, TCU
• Tyler Nubin, Minnesota
• Kitan Oladapo, Oregon State
• Tyler Owens, Texas Tech
• Andru Phillips, Kentucky
• Deantre Prince, Mississippi
• Nehemiah Pritchett, Auburn
• Josh Proctor, Ohio State
• Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri
• Decamerion Richardson, Mississippi State
• Demani Richardson, Texas A&M
• Christian Roland-Wallace, USC
• Mike Sainristil, Michigan
• Andre' Sam, LSU
• Jaylin Simpson, Auburn
• Tykee Smith, Georgia
• Chau Smith-Wade, Washington State
• Tarheeb Still, Maryland
• T.J. Tampa, Iowa State
• Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, Texas Tech
• Ro Torrence, Arizona State
• Sione Vaki, Utah
• Josh Wallace, Michigan
• Ryan Watts, Texas
• Nate Wiggins, Clemson
• Evan Williams, Oregon
• James Williams, Miami

SPECIALISTS

• Joshua Karty, K, Stanford
• Cam Little, K, Arkansas
• Harrison Mevis, K, Missouri
• Ryan Rehkow, P, BYU
• Will Reichard, K, Alabama
• Tory Taylor, P, Iowa

 

Tyler Owens getting a combine invite is interesting. 

[MuellerHorn 4605]

52 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Yeah, his measurables certainly jumped him up, but 40 time is absolutely irrelevant to his play, and broad jump is also pretty useless if the guy hasn’t actually exhibited much explosiveness or disruptiveness in his game film. It was a dumb pick at the time by the Eagles even without the benefit of hindsight. 

100%. I'd even argue that, although Sweat isn't quite the pass rushing threat that Davis was perceived to be based on athletic profile, his ability to take on double teams and push the pocket back on any given play increases the ability of the pass rushers around him. Both Sweat and Murphy boost a line's ability to do this more effectively. 

[MuellerHorn 4605]

18 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

He is what he is. No need to be at the combine. However, some team will give him a camp invite or use a 7th on him.

[The Dog 44771]

Klatt's Mock 1.0 (spoilered because large screen shots) - Has Murphy at 25 to the Packers.

Spoiler

32 is Troy Franklin WR from Oregon.

 

[Bigpoppapump 535]

Klatt's Mock 1.0 (spoilered because large screen shots) - Has Murphy at 25 to the Packers.
Spoiler

32 is Troy Franklin WR from Oregon.

 

Dolphins spending a first on a QB?

[The Dog 44771]

1 hour ago, Bigpoppapump said:

Dolphins spending a first on a QB?

Klatt not a fan of Tua and really likes Penix.

[LTtxfan 49906]

On 2/14/2024 at 12:21 PM, Fud said:

The Rams are drafting their first 1st round pick since 2016. I think they'll take an immediate impact guy rather than a backup QB. 

I'll be shocked if Rams don't trade down to add more picks...

unless maybe they have some glaring need that has to be addressed in the 1st Rd??

[Rockwell Torrey 1364]

On 2/14/2024 at 2:03 AM, closetojumping said:

Turns out it was Keilan Robinson. I knew I was forgetting someone. Ryan Sanborn is probably interviewing for accounting jobs at Big 4 firms as this is typed.

Or scoring hot, smart Asian pussy in the Bay Area from his time at tree.

[APEX 63]

Washington drafting another UNC quarterback? Have they soured on Howell already?

[closetohumping 17776]

3 minutes ago, APEX said:

Washington drafting another UNC quarterback? Have they soured on Howell already?

Pretty much

[Fud 9696]

 

[Vertigo 20461]

2 hours ago, Fud said:

 

Wow, 4 texas guys in the second and a first rounder. I'll take that thank you. 

[billfromlaketravis 11784]

4 hours ago, Fud said:

 

Feels a little late on Murphy, but yes, I too would take that. 

[Herpa Derpa 6315]

2 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Wow, 4 texas guys in the second and a first rounder. I'll take that thank you. 

5 in second.

Mitchell, Sweat, Worthy, Sanders and Brooks.

[Mother mopar 3379]

Wow, 5 texas guys in the second and a first rounder. I'll take that thank you. 

I got ya.

[pacman 7485]

Glad to see Murphy get rewarded. He has been a hard working force from day one.

[DixonHur 11939]

I'll throw my Mock 2.0 in here for y'all to pick apart...note there are several projected trades.  Mostly by the Bears trading back to accumulate picks.  I have the Steelers trading the No. 22 pick for Justin Fields.  I also think Denver could trade up to get Bo Nix.  I'm not a huge Nix fan, but he seems like a perfect fit for Sean Payton's system.  

I also have Carolina trading back into the 1st round to pick a CB, and the Bears using some of their draft stockpile to take the Panthers' pick to take JJ McCarthy.

I see the 1st being WR heavy since it's a QB/WR league.  

The reason Drake Maye is #1 is because I think he's a better fit for Atlanta's new OC. 

[The Dog 44771]

 

[Ignatius 4125]

2 hours ago, DixonHur said:

I'll throw my Mock 2.0 in here for y'all to pick apart...note there are several projected trades.  Mostly by the Bears trading back to accumulate picks.  I have the Steelers trading the No. 22 pick for Justin Fields.  I also think Denver could trade up to get Bo Nix.  I'm not a huge Nix fan, but he seems like a perfect fit for Sean Payton's system.  

I also have Carolina trading back into the 1st round to pick a CB, and the Bears using some of their draft stockpile to take the Panthers' pick to take JJ McCarthy.

I see the 1st being WR heavy since it's a QB/WR league.  

The reason Drake Maye is #1 is because I think he's a better fit for Atlanta's new OC. 

No way Quinton Mitchell from Toledo lasts until the 2nd round, especially after the numbers he’s going to put up at the combine…

[Da Fino 2820]

2 hours ago, DixonHur said:

I'll throw my Mock 2.0 in here for y'all to pick apart...note there are several projected trades.  Mostly by the Bears trading back to accumulate picks.  I have the Steelers trading the No. 22 pick for Justin Fields.  I also think Denver could trade up to get Bo Nix.  I'm not a huge Nix fan, but he seems like a perfect fit for Sean Payton's system.  

I also have Carolina trading back into the 1st round to pick a CB, and the Bears using some of their draft stockpile to take the Panthers' pick to take JJ McCarthy.

I see the 1st being WR heavy since it's a QB/WR league.  

The reason Drake Maye is #1 is because I think he's a better fit for Atlanta's new OC. 

Latham is in there twice