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My friend from Nazareth (works as a tour guide and I hang out with her and her family every time I'm there)... digital silence.  Can't get her by phone.  Hasn't posted anything on FB or Insta since Th

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I'm continually amazed at the ability of Americans to pick a side in this ongoing fiasco. I know people who are very pro-Israel and others who are very pro-Palestine. All I see is two bad gu

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8 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Interesting. Dude worth billions is saying this. Yes, no elderly, children or any civilian should suffer. BTW, the backdrop does not look Gaza, or Doha. 

Fuck this dude. 

 

Is that not the dome of the rock in the background? Looks like a green screen either way. 

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15 hours ago, 52-80 said:

Viet Cong fought in Pyjamas and they beat the Yanks. 

The Viet Cong were eliminated as threat during the TET offensive. We fought primarily NVA regulars from that point on. We were defeated by politicians and the media.

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5 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Getting involved was the stupidity.  Not getting out. 

Not disputing that. Not supporting Ho Chi Minh before He turned to the communist was the big mistake. 

But once we were committed the politicians and media lost the war for us.

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Not disputing that. Not supporting Ho Chi Minh before He turned to the communist was the big mistake. 

But once we were committed the politicians and media lost the war for us.

How do you win a war that you are fundamentally against?  It wasn't the media's fault.  It was entirely upon the politicians.  

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On 12/7/2023 at 12:21 PM, Anastasis said:

Fake Reports have identified the really fat one as a journalist from Al Arabi al jadid. Also, the fake reports indicate that these are captives taken from a U.N. shelter in north Gaza, not khan yunis as some are saying on Twitter. There are also fake pictures of unarmed dead civilians laying next to their white flags. 

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The Woman in the Hamas Video Is My Daughter

There are 17 young females still being held hostage. One of them is my girl, Naama. And time is running out.

https://www.thefp.com/p/the-woman-in-the-hamas-video-is-my-daughter

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Naama Levy, 19, was captured on October 7 and last seen in a video released by Hamas. (Photo via X)

By Ayelet Levy Shachar

December 8, 2023


You have seen the video of my daughter Naama Levy. Everyone has. You have seen her dragged by her long brown hair from the back of a Jeep at gunpoint, somewhere in Gaza, her gray sweatpants covered in blood. You may have perhaps noticed that her ankles are cut, that she’s barefoot and limping. She is seriously injured. She is frightened. And I, her mother, am helpless in these moments of horror. 

On October 7, Naama had been sleeping at Kibbutz Nahal Oz, and was awakened by the chaotic sound of a missile barrage. At 7 a.m., she sent me a WhatsApp message: “We’re in the safe room. I’ve never heard anything like this.” That was the last I heard from her. 

The next day, I saw the video, but the woman in the footage was so bloodied and disheveled it was hard to tell if it really was her. Naama’s father called and confirmed the terrible news. 

Before that day, every video our family had taken of Naama was joyful—dancing with friends, laughing with her three siblings, and simply enjoying life. Naama is only 19, but she’ll always be my baby girl. A girl who truly believes in the good of all people. She enjoys athletics and dreams of a career in diplomacy, and her greatest passion is helping those in need. As a girl, she was a member of the “Hands of Peace” delegation, which brings together American, Israeli, and Palestinian youths to promote global social change.

But now, one video, totally unrepresentative of the life she had led until October 7, is how the world knows her.


It has been deeply disturbing to see the United Nations and feminist organizations refuse to acknowledge that Hamas raped and committed appalling sexual crimes against women, simply because the victims are Jewish. It took two months for some to finally admit the scale and the brutality of the horror. Meanwhile, Israeli experts are gathering the evidence. Shari, a volunteer worker at the Shura military morgue, told The Washington Post about what she documented: “We saw many women with bloody underwear, with broken bones, broken legs, broken pelvises.”

The same monsters who committed those crimes are holding my daughter hostage.

There are seventeen young women still in captivity. They range in age from 18 to 26. I think of what they, and my Naama, could be subjected to at every moment of the day. Each minute is an eternity in hell. 

On Monday, State Department spokesman Matthew Miller said that one of the reasons Hamas doesn’t want to release the young female hostages “is they don’t want these women to be able to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody.” 

Everyone knows exactly what he means.

What would you do if your daughter were being held hostage by violent rapists and murderers for two months? Perhaps the better question is: What wouldn’t you do?

Over the last week and a half, dozens of hostages were released. The stories they’ve told about captivity are chilling. Emily Hand, a girl of only nine years, told her father she thought she had been held underground by Hamas for a year. Daniel Aloni was held along with her young daughter Emilia and was forced to participate in a hostage video in which she begged for their release. In it, she famously shrieked the word now, in Hebrew achshav. The way Daniel uttered that last word, now, that primal scream, is what lies in the hearts of every hostage, and every hostage family. It is the sound that rings in the depths of my soul every moment of every day.

In addition to being Naama Levy’s mother, I’m also a primary care doctor and the team physician for Israel’s women’s soccer team. I work with young women, and I understand the medical risks of spending every day in darkness, without enough nutrition or medical care or even basic hygiene. As a mother, I simply worry: Did my daughter’s captors give her a clean change of clothes, or is she still sitting in the same bloody sweatpants she was abducted in?

There’s a reason why women and children were prioritized first for release: younger women are at greater risk for further trauma. Just as women and girls are more vulnerable to more forms of violence, they are also more vulnerable to suffering from infections and pregnancy from sexual violence. 

The longer Naama is held in captivity, the more violence she is subjected to, the more likely she will suffer the consequences of lifelong post-traumatic stress. When she is released, I pray that the image of her abduction, and the experience of what that image represents, isn’t how she comes to see the world.

Meanwhile, time is passing through an hourglass, and the sands are not infinite.

The seventeen female hostages are not bargaining chips to be debated by diplomats. They are daughters, and one of them is mine. My primal scream should be the scream of mothers everywhere. Bring her home now!


Ayelet Levy-Shachar is Naama’s mother. She is a primary care physician for families and for the Israeli women’s soccer team. She is a mother of four and lives in Ra’anana. 

 

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That just makes me sad. We learned of the atrocities because the Germans filmed and documented them...just like we have learned of the extent the Jews suffered this go around because Hamas filmed and documented. 

"and they will burn down the synagogues at 6 o'clock and we'll all go along like before. "

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IDF spokesman on the prisoners they took yesterday 

 

IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari confirms many Hamas members have surrendered to troops in the Gaza Strip today, saying they have revealed intelligence information on the terror group's functioning amid the ground offensive.

 

"In Shejaiya and Jabaliya, terrorists who surrendered handed over weapons and equipment," he says, confirming footage that leaked earlier today.

 

"From the interrogations of the terrorists who surrendered, the following intelligence has emerged: The situation of the operatives on the ground is difficult, and the Hamas leadership, led by [Yahya] Sinwar, denies the reality even though it is updated on the details," Hagari says.

 

"The operatives complain that the Hamas leadership is disconnected from the tough situation they are in on the ground," says.

 

Hagari says there is a "widespread feeling that the Hamas leadership underground does not care about the public in Gaza who are above ground," adding that this also worries the Hamas operatives.

 

"The intelligence that emerges from the interrogations creates more targets and aids us in the operational activity," Hagari adds.

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https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-12-11-23/index.html

Hezbollah and Israel mixing it up some more

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Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Monday it struck a Hezbollah military site in southern Lebanon after a number of launches from the area.  

“In response to launches from Lebanon toward communities in the western Galilee earlier today, IDF fighter jets struck a Hezbollah military site,” the IDF said in a statement. It added that “number of launches were also identified from Lebanon toward IDF posts in northern Israel. The IDF struck the sources of fire.” 

Hezbollah said earlier on Monday that it fired artillery shells at Pranit Barracks, saying its actions were in support of Gaza. Hezbollah said in a statement that the barracks suffered “a direct hit.” 

And Qatar going to keep making Hamas leadership rich

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Qatar will continue to make payments to Gaza to support the enclave, as it has been doing for years, the Qatari minister of state for foreign affairs told CNN’s Becky Anderson on Monday.

“We're not going to change our mandate. Our mandate is our continuous help and support for our brothers and sisters of Palestine. We will continue to do it systematically as we did it before,” Mohammed bin Abdulaziz Al-Khulaifi said.

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His remarks come amid increased anger in Israel about years of payments from the Gulf state to Hamas, under a deal which used to see Qatari diplomats arrive in the enclave every month with suitcases containing $15 million in cash.

The cash deliveries were supposed to help pay Gaza’s civil servants. Pictures in 2018 showed workers lining up to receive $100 bills.

 

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The IDF announces that it has recovered the bodies of Eden Zacharia and Warrant Officer Ziv Dado, who were taken hostage by Hamas on October 7.

The operation to recover the bodies from the Gaza Strip was carried out by the Military Intelligence Directorate's Unit 504, and the 551st Brigade.

Zacharia, 27, was taken hostage from the rave near Re'im, and Dado, 36, a logistics supervisor in the Golani Brigade's 51st Battalion, was killed during the October 7 onslaught.

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Unfortunately, the main reason why there will be no ceasefire from the Israeli side has nothing to do with hostages. Any prolonged stoppage in the war will require a change of government in Tel Aviv.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-israel-starting-lose-support-over-indiscriminate-bombing-gaza-2023-12-12/

Don't forget that before the October 7 attack, Bibi was in a heap of domestic trouble.

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Unfortunately, the main reason why there will be no ceasefire from the Israeli side has nothing to do with hostages. Any prolonged stoppage in the war will require a change of government in Tel Aviv.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-israel-starting-lose-support-over-indiscriminate-bombing-gaza-2023-12-12/

Don't forget that before the October 7 attack, Bibi was in a heap of domestic trouble.

This is also true.  If you're looking for a white hat in all of this...keep looking.

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Have any IDF casualty numbers been posted?  I saw one early on when a IFV/tank got ambushed and the whole squad got eliminated and 2 more today during a rescue but not much else...  I assume that going into urban and tunnel environment has caused some significant casualty figures.

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Have any IDF casualty numbers been posted?  I saw one early on when a IFV/tank got ambushed and the whole squad got eliminated and 2 more today during a rescue but not much else...  I assume that going into urban and tunnel environment has caused some significant casualty figures.

Last I saw they had lost just over 100.

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Can't remember if the original washington post article was linked here or not.

 

Note, this is a blog post from Robert Satloff, the Segal executive director of The Washington Institute and its Howard P. Berkowitz Chair in U.S. Middle East Policy. It is not a Times of Israel article.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/did-nasty-israelis-really-separate-palestinian-mothers-from-their-babies/

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If Washington Post reporters had asked Israeli officials, they would have written a very different story.

On November 17, the Washington Post published a front-page article titled “Israel’s war with Hamas separates Palestinian babies from their mothers.” It claimed that the expiration of transit passes that allowed Palestinian women with complicated pregnancies to cross from Gaza to give birth in hospital neonatal wards in Israel or the West Bank compelled those new moms to leave their newborn infants in the care of hospital nurses and that the outbreak of war of October 7 has prevented parents from reuniting with their babies.

Moreover, the article included assertions from unnamed hospital administrators that the newspaper could not print further details — even to name the hospitals where the babies were cared for — out of fear of reprisals from the Israeli government. That fear allegedly was the reason the reporters did not even approach Israeli authorities to ask for their comment on the various allegations made against them.

Four days later, I posted a lengthy critique of the article, highlighting numerous journalistic flaws. The most serious, in my view, was that the Post’s reporters took an essentially good news story about babies being cared for during wartime and turned it into an attack on Israel, based largely on unnamed sources without making any effort to check the claims with the relevant Israeli government agencies.

The original story gnawed at me. It cried out for more details. Could Israeli officials really be so heartless as to separate mothers and their preemie infants just hours after birth? Could Israeli officials really be so cruel as to repeatedly deny those mothers access to reunite with their babies?

So, over the past three weeks, I have done what three Washington Post reporters – Louisa Loveluck, Sufian Taha and Hajar Harb – did not do: I asked relevant Israeli government agencies – including the office of the Israel Defense Force’s Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT); the Israeli ministry of health; and the Israeli embassy in Washington — for their side of the story. This is what I learned. None of this appeared in the original Washington Post story.

  • The established procedure for Palestinian parents from Gaza to seek exceptional medical care – whether for themselves, as in the case of mothers with complicated pregnancies, or for their children who might need cancer treatment, kidney dialysis, or other specialized treatment — is to apply via the Palestinian Authority, which then passes requests on to Israel. The PA bureaucracy in Ramallah is fully involved in all these cases. Israel and the PA often disagree over how to pay for the medical care of these patients but the patients’ access to care is never impeded by this dispute, nor are the patients themselves charged for this care.
  • Israel requires entry permits for all Palestinians from Gaza to transit to the hospitals where such care is delivered, which is almost exclusively hospitals in the West Bank or East Jerusalem. It is exceedingly rare for the PA to request transit to a hospital inside pre-1967 Israel.
  • Israel strongly prefers that mothers accompany children, as there have been cases in the past when fathers abandoned children to seek employment while in Israel or, even rarer, engaged in prohibited political/security activity. In a few cases, other family members — most often, grandparents — accompany the children. Obviously, in the case of difficult pregnancies, the issue concerns mothers.
  • When travel permits expire, the traveler does not usually return to Gaza. That is because permits can be renewed electronically online; for post-partum mothers with newborn infants in hospital, renewals are swift and virtually automatic. As a senior official of the Israeli Ministry of Health explained to me, “In all cases like these, permits are extended automatically on a weekly basis, with no requirement to return to Gaza.”
  • If permit renewals are automatic, how could mothers and babies get separated? That happens when mothers give birth in West Bank or East Jerusalem hospitals and then decide to return to Gaza for personal or family reasons, usually to care for their other children, confident in the knowledge that their newborns are in good hands. As the Israeli Health Ministry official explained: “Mothers who do return to Gaza in peacetime do so generally to care for additional children left at home.” In other words, separation, when it happens, is almost always the choice of the mother, not something imposed by Israeli administrative fiat.
  • It is true that Hamas’s terrorist attack on October 7 and Israel’s subsequent declaration of war against Hamas suspended the normal issuance of travel permits. Still, Israel has received no special request – either via the Palestinian Authority or UN specialized agencies such as the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) or the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) — to arrange for the reunification of these mothers and their babies.
  • In the meantime, all the babies remain in the care of the relevant hospitals, at no cost to the families. Both the PA and the Israeli ministry of health have records of each case, so the idea that the Post could not check on the accusation that patients would suffer “reprisals” if details of their hospital stay were known is, on the face of it, absurd.

Bottom line: On closer inspection, the Washington Post’s flouting of conventional rules of journalism was even more egregious than I originally thought.

  • The article asserts that “the war … parted newborns from their mothers and fathers.”

Actually, the parents in question appear to have chosen to leave their children in the care of the hospitals and return to Gaza, long before the outbreak of war. According to the Israelis, the war may have made it difficult for them to reunite, but the original decision to separate was the parents’.

  • The article claims: “If a baby needs to stay in the incubator longer, the mother must return to Gaza and start the process again.”

According to the Israelis, this is false.

  • The article allows most of the medical staff and Palestinian mothers interviewed to maintain anonymity, “citing security concerns for staff and patients,” noting that “in the aftermath of Oct. 7, hundreds of Palestinians from Gaza, including hospital patients with permits, were arbitrarily detained by security forces, rights groups say.” The article then links to a single November 3 press release by a group called Gisha: Legal Center for Freedom of Movement, which asserts that “hundreds of Gaza residents, including both workers and people who had entered Israel with permits to receive medical treatment, who were present in Israel on October 7… had since been unlawfully, secretly detained by Israeli authorities.”

Evidently, the Post did not do any independent reporting on the accuracy of this charge. More to the point, the Post did not do any independent reporting to learn whether any of the alleged detainees were mothers of newborns.

  • The article states that a Gazan woman identified only by her first name, Sabrine, gave birth to premature twins on August 3 and then, by August 5, “it was time for [her] to go.” The article continues: “She left in tears, staff said, reassured only by their promise to apply for another permit as soon as possible so she could come back and collect them. Israeli authorities rejected it without explanation, they said. The war began soon after that.”

The article does not cite Sabrine directly, but relies on second-hand, unnamed remembrances of her parting words three months after her departure. Moreover, the articles makes no mention of why Sabrine actually left — was it because she lacked a valid permit or because she chose to return to Gaza for some other personal reason?

This paragraph is the key to the entire article, but the reporters did not ask whether Sabrine took advantage of the online system to apply for a permit before her return to Gaza; did not ask what efforts she made to reunite with her children in the two months between her departure and the Hamas attack (e.g., did she approach the PA? did she make an appeal to the relevant UN specialized agencies?); and did not ask any question of Israeli authorities to confirm that the request was rejected or why.

  • The article notes: “The Post is not providing the name or location of the hospital for the security of patients, as staff members fear reprisals from Israeli authorities.”

But the Post reporters made no effort to check the assertion with any Israeli government entity, all of whom categorically reject the allegation. Nor did the reporters cite any specific reprisal that had already occurred against any Palestinian mother with babies in one of the neonatal wards described in the article.

  • The article then cites the one mother named in the story, Hanan al-Bayouk from Khan Younis, who allegedly said “she was forced to go home” on August 28, just 30 hours after giving birth to triplets. It adds that Bayouk “had secured a permit to return for their discharge. It was dated Oct. 10, four days too late.”

Here, too, the Post reporters don’t ask what “forced” al-Bayouk to return home – was it the expiration of a permit or some other issue in Khan Younis? – nor do they ask whether al-Bayouk tried to use Israel’s online system for permit renewal or if she sought the intercession of PA or UN authorities. And what precisely happened that made it “too late” for al-Bayouk to reunite with her children? It was not some punitive decision by the Israeli government; it was the Hamas attack of October 7 that triggered a total border shutdown, much like what occurred with the close of US land and air borders following the September 11 attacks.

Bayouk’s case is the only one in which the mother’s full name is used in the story. In response, the Israeli health ministry official offered this: “In the single case mentioned [by name] in the article, the mother is in contact with both the hospital and the Israeli authorities, the infants have completed their course of care. The mother returned to Gaza of her own choice prior to the Hamas attacks of October 7th. Due to the current state of war forced upon Israel by Hamas, it is not possible for civilians to cross the Israeli border with Gaza in either direction. While Israel has offered to return the infants to their mother via the Rafah Crossing, the mother is clear that she does not have the capability of accepting the infants back in Gaza due to the ongoing war. During her absence, her babies are well cared for. The State of Israel would like to see the reunification of the mother with her children as soon as possible.”

What’s the bottom line? All the key elements of the story that appeared in print on November 17, occupying most of the front-page above the fold, were either false, unsubstantiated or, at a bare minimum, rejected by statements by Israeli government officials who painted a very different picture from the one presented by the Post. The reporters appear to have taken on face-value claims and assertions made by the Palestinian mothers and the hospital administrators, without any independent verification. Their failure to seek comment from the relevant Israeli authorities violated the most fundamental rules of journalism. At the very least, the Post would then have had a “he-said/she-said” story, presenting two contradictory views of the same situation. Why the Post’s editors did not insist that the reporters follow these rules may be the most inexplicable part of this tale.

Here is what a senior Israeli official told me: “If asked, we would have described the numerous cases of our providing humanitarian care to Palestinians civilians, especially children, even during wartime — care for patients with cancer, dialysis, and other medical needs. We would also have described the procedure for entry and renewal of permits, which does not require the mother to return to Gaza. And we would have rejected completely any absurd idea that medical personnel face ‘retaliation’ for helping these patients, as an unnamed hospital administrator alleged in the article.”

As I wrote in my original critique, at its core, this appears to be a good news story about well-meaning people taking care of premature babies across battle lines that, for some unknown reason, the Washington Post turned into an unsourced, unnamed, unverified attack on Israel.

 

 

This has also been going around today too. Somewhat of a hostile, or at least not at all sympathetic interview. Israeli ambassador says that the Oslo Accords have failed as of Oct 7th and a new way forward needs to be created. This was somewhat sensationalized to the current headlines.

 

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