Israel-Hamas war thread

[InkaUtexas 26,341]

ITALY WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO ANY UN PEACEKEEPING IN GAZA

Italy’s foreign minister says Rome would be willing to contribute troops to any possible U.N. peacekeeping force for Gaza, even though no such proposal is currently on the table and Israel has rejected the idea.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani suggested a U.N. force under Arab command could help provide security if Israel and the Palestinians make headway on an eventual two-state solution. He said the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Lebanon could be the model.

“If there is the solution and for a short time we need the presence of the United Nations under Arab control, we are ready for sending Italian soldiers,” Tajani said ahead of a Group of Seven foreign ministers meeting in Capri.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has ruled out a foreign peacekeeping force in Gaza after the war, saying only Israel is capable of keeping the territory demilitarized.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-hamas-latest-04-17-2024-7e4ba24fbb150f020a2d240dad9d462f

[Parliament 14,367]

How confident are we that a neutral peacekeeper wouldn’t be targeted with IED’s and suicide bombs just because?

[Bevo 13,633]

4 minutes ago, Parliament said:

How confident are we that a neutral peacekeeper wouldn’t be targeted with IED’s and suicide bombs just because?

 

I don't know but Italy is about as good as it gets as far as neutrality.

[InkaUtexas 26,341]

Just now, Parliament said:

How confident are we that a neutral peacekeeper wouldn’t be targeted with IED’s and suicide bombs just because?

We are not. But they could secure the landing areas for aid, provide monitoring services, and coordinate humanitarian movement.

[Brian Fantana 6,704]

10 minutes ago, Parliament said:

How confident are we that a neutral peacekeeper wouldn’t be targeted with IED’s and suicide bombs just because?

That or IDF drones.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1,732]

10 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

That or IDF drones.

 

Good Lord you're a beating. This thread has worsened since the CR squeezed you out.

[Brian Fantana 6,704]

2 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

Good Lord you're a beating. This thread has worsened since the CR squeezed you out.

[Rex Kramer 1,436]

Dallas on 75 in rush hour traffic today. Near Preston Hollow, home to the Dallas Jew population. 

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

some of you will rejoice (but will deny it)

 

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-04-21-2024-8c027f2587c2c433d0fde41b63a0e0c3

Israeli strikes on southern Gaza city of Rafah kill 22, mostly children, as US advances aid package

The first Israeli strike in Rafah killed a man, his wife and their 3-year-old child, according to the nearby Kuwaiti Hospital, which received the bodies. The woman was pregnant and the doctors saved the baby, the hospital said. The second strike killed 17 children and two women from an extended family.

 

“These children were sleeping. What did they do? What was their fault?” asked one relative, Umm Kareem. Another relative, Umm Mohammad, said the oldest killed, an 80-year-old aunt, was taken out “in pieces.” Small children were zipped into body bags.

Mohammed al-Beheiri said his daughter, Rasha, and her six children, the youngest 18 months old, were among those killed. A woman and three children were still under the rubble.

[InkaUtexas 26,341]

This is beyond fucked up in so many levels.

[Brisketexan 105,567]

some of you will rejoice (but will deny it)
 
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-04-21-2024-8c027f2587c2c433d0fde41b63a0e0c3

Israeli strikes on southern Gaza city of Rafah kill 22, mostly children, as US advances aid package

The first Israeli strike in Rafah killed a man, his wife and their 3-year-old child, according to the nearby Kuwaiti Hospital, which received the bodies. The woman was pregnant and the doctors saved the baby, the hospital said. The second strike killed 17 children and two women from an extended family.
 

“These children were sleeping. What did they do? What was their fault?” asked one relative, Umm Kareem. Another relative, Umm Mohammad, said the oldest killed, an 80-year-old aunt, was taken out “in pieces.” Small children were zipped into body bags.

Mohammed al-Beheiri said his daughter, Rasha, and her six children, the youngest 18 months old, were among those killed. A woman and three children were still under the rubble.

You should be one of them. After all, there’s no better path to your “perfect plan” to ethnically cleanse Gaza than to drive them out with fire.

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

You should be one of them. After all, there’s no better path to your “perfect plan” to ethnically cleanse Gaza than to drive them out with fire.

wow, you are really stupid believing I want them killed off for ethnic cleansing.  You don't know much about this topic , after reading dozens of your posts.  What you wrote is offensive and insulting.  

[Brisketexan 105,567]

wow, you are really stupid believing I want them killed off for ethnic cleansing.  You don't know much about this topic , after reading dozens of your posts.  What you wrote is offensive and insulting.  

Naah. The killing is just a means to an end. How do you get millions of people to abandon their homes and go somewhere else (your stated goal)? There’s only one tried-and-true method: drive them out. Israel is pursuing your plan using the #1 method for doing so. You should be smiling.

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

37 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Naah. The killing is just a means to an end. How do you get millions of people to abandon their homes and go somewhere else (your stated goal)? There’s only one tried-and-true method: drive them out. Israel is pursuing your plan using the #1 method for doing so. You should be smiling.

voluntary migration for a better life in the west =/= killing them all in Gaza.  

It's your boundless ignorance and childlike nature.  Anyway, no one should take you seriously on this issue (or any other).

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

On 4/19/2024 at 10:31 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Dallas on 75 in rush hour traffic today. Near Preston Hollow, home to the Dallas Jew population. 

- how do you know Preston Hollow is "home to the Dallas Jew population."? 

- are you implying anti-Semitism in the location of the protest? lulz. 

 

[Sawbonz 27,775]

21 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

voluntary migration

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

the other voluntary choice is to remain in Gaza, waiting for a slow rebuild, dependent on foreign NGOs for a lifetime because there is no hope and no opportunity.   It's easy to migrate.  

[Rex Kramer 1,436]

27 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

- how do you know Preston Hollow is "home to the Dallas Jew population."? 

- are you implying anti-Semitism in the location of the protest? lulz. 

 

Because I live here.  It’s been a fact forever  

I'm not implying anything. It was either strategic (doubtful with this group) or coincidence. Either way, it was interesting, and that’s why I fucking posted it. 

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Because I live here.  It’s been a fact forever  

I'm not implying anything. It was either strategic (doubtful with this group) or coincidence. Either way, it was interesting, and that’s why I fucking posted it. 

why did you find that interesting if the protest was close to a "Jew population" (if indeed that is true) ?

[Brisketexan 105,567]

the other voluntary choice is to remain in Gaza, waiting for a slow rebuild, dependent on foreign NGOs for a lifetime because there is no hope and no opportunity.   It's easy to migrate.  

Alex…I’ll take “why is there a need for a total rebuild, and no hope or opportunity?” for $500. Oh, and the answer is “what is a lot of shit the IDF and Israel has done and continues to do, including destroying functionally all infrastructure and terrorizing/murdering the population?”
You get people to “voluntarily migrate” by making the place they presently live unlivable. That’s how your stated goal, your perfect plan, is achieved. It’s so simple, even an idiot like me can see it.

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

18 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Alex…I’ll take “why is there a need for a total rebuild, and no hope or opportunity?” for $500. Oh, and the answer is “what is a lot of shit the IDF and Israel has done and continues to do, including destroying functionally all infrastructure and terrorizing/murdering the population?”
You get people to “voluntarily migrate” by making the place they presently live unlivable. That’s how your stated goal, your perfect plan, is achieved. It’s so simple, even an idiot like me can see it.

I was for a voluntary migration even before October 7th because Gaza wasn't terrible at that point but a better option remains. 

It's always a voluntary migration because no one is forcibly expelling them, as was the original 1948 Nakba where Jewish gangs terrorized Arabs civlians to flee.  That's not the IDF's goal here, they are not forcibly expelling the population, ethnic cleansing is NOT their goal in their military operation.  Voluntary migration is not ethnic cleansing.  Your idea that I enjoy the deaths of Gazans is very offensive and insulting. Thanks for confirming your idiocy. 

 

Edited April 21 by Make em eat Taco Bell

[Rex Kramer 1,436]

31 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

why did you find that interesting if the protest was close to a "Jew population" (if indeed that is true) ?

It is 100% true. Because it was interesting. Do you have a fucking point?

[Rex Kramer 1,436]

14 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

I was for a voluntary migration even before October 7th because Gaza wasn't terrible at that point but a better option remains. 

It's always a voluntary migration because no one is forcibly expelling them, as was the original 1948 Nakba where Jewish gangs terrorized Arabs civlians to flee.  That's not the IDF's goal here, they are not forcibly expelling the population, ethnic cleansing is NOT their goal in their military operation.  Voluntary migration is not ethnic cleansing.  Your idea that I enjoy the deaths of Gazans is very offensive and insulting. Thanks for confirming your idiocy. 

 

Where do you move them to?

[InkaUtexas 26,341]

12 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Where do you move them to?

IF this is the outcome, and I say IF, there really is no where they can all go except the US and Canada. The Middle East will not take them. The interpreter I mentioned above was raised his entire life in the UAE. His parents were both doctors. They were second class citizens and when asked by an Emirati where he was from he would say Jordan.

Jordan won't take them do to an oversaturation of refugees already and their past issues with Palestinians. Egypt has major population issues. North Africa? Same. The only Arab option is Saudi Arabia and their new cities. But they want educated people and have plenty of "labor" from third countries.

 

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

17 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Where do you move them to?

 

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

IF this is the outcome, and I say IF, there really is no where they can all go except the US and Canada. The Middle East will not take them. The interpreter I mentioned above was raised his entire life in the UAE. His parents were both doctors. They were second class citizens and when asked by an Emirati where he was from he would say Jordan.

Jordan won't take them do to an oversaturation of refugees already and their past issues with Palestinians. Egypt has major population issues. North Africa? Same. The only Arab option is Saudi Arabia and their new cities. But they want educated people and have plenty of "labor" from third countries.

 

US, Canada, UK, France, Italy, German, Spain -- the entire EU is available in small or large amounts .  50K, 75K, 10K.  If 1,000,000 Syrians can get to EU by themselves, anything is possible. 

European countries host over 1 million Syrian asylum-seekers and refugees, with the 70 per cent being hosted in two countries only: Germany (59 percent) and Sweden (11 percent). This makes Germany the fifth largest host country globally, hosting over 1 million in total, of which over half (560,000) are Syrians. Austria, Greece, the Netherlands and France host between 2 to 5 percent, while other countries host below 2 percent.

Across Europe, Syrians have been consistently afforded an international protection status, with the vast majority either been granted refugee status or subsidiary forms of protection while the minority benefiting from other humanitarian statuses. Since the onset of the Syrian crisis in 2011, far over one million (1,076,360) international protection decisions on applications by Syrians have been taken by asylum authorities in EU+ countries.

[Thetexashammer 1,062]

The very definition of a Palestinian is refugee status. That is the sine qua non of their being. It is pretty normal to resettle refugees. 

 

[InkaUtexas 26,341]

3 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

 

US, Canada, UK, France, Italy, German, Spain -- the entire EU is available in small or large amounts .  50K, 75K, 10K.  If 1,000,000 Syrians can get to EU by themselves, anything is possible. 

European countries host over 1 million Syrian asylum-seekers and refugees, with the 70 per cent being hosted in two countries only: Germany (59 percent) and Sweden (11 percent). This makes Germany the fifth largest host country globally, hosting over 1 million in total, of which over half (560,000) are Syrians. Austria, Greece, the Netherlands and France host between 2 to 5 percent, while other countries host below 2 percent.

Across Europe, Syrians have been consistently afforded an international protection status, with the vast majority either been granted refugee status or subsidiary forms of protection while the minority benefiting from other humanitarian statuses. Since the onset of the Syrian crisis in 2011, far over one million (1,076,360) international protection decisions on applications by Syrians have been taken by asylum authorities in EU+ countries.

Yes, and following EU politics it has caused a lot of internal issues. See the riots in Sweden? Holland?

Plus the EU should absorb Africa, the US Latin America, and in a perfect world the Arabs would help the Palestinians.

[InkaUtexas 26,341]

1 minute ago, Thetexashammer said:

The very definition of a Palestinian is refugee status. That is the sine qua non of their being. It is pretty normal to resettle refugees. 

 

Technically they are internally displaced people if outside their home but within the borders of Israel. Might sound like a nit pick, but it really impacts what and how much aid they have. The right to resettle has to be agreed to by the nation receiving them.

[Rex Kramer 1,436]

35 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

IF this is the outcome, and I say IF, there really is no where they can all go except the US and Canada. The Middle East will not take them. The interpreter I mentioned above was raised his entire life in the UAE. His parents were both doctors. They were second class citizens and when asked by an Emirati where he was from he would say Jordan.

Jordan won't take them do to an oversaturation of refugees already and their past issues with Palestinians. Egypt has major population issues. North Africa? Same. The only Arab option is Saudi Arabia and their new cities. But they want educated people and have plenty of "labor" from third countries.

 

Oh I know the Arab world won’t take them. I’d be really reticent to have them in US borders. 

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

37 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Yes, and following EU politics it has caused a lot of internal issues. See the riots in Sweden? Holland?

Plus the EU should absorb Africa, the US Latin America, and in a perfect world the Arabs would help the Palestinians.

Palestinians are not the rioters in those nations, besides those were few and muted.

The difference between Africa/Latin America is that the west isn't backing those regimes causing the human misery as the west supports Israel. The west is directly responsible for Palestinian misery caused by Israel. 

[InkaUtexas 26,341]

1 hour ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

Palestinians are not the rioters in those nations, besides those were few and muted.

The difference between Africa/Latin America is that the west isn't backing those regimes causing the human misery as the west supports Israel. The west is directly responsible for Palestinian misery caused by Israel. 

Where I mainly agree with you, I do differ on parts of Africa. But that is another thread.

Concerning the riots. I understand they were not Palestine based, but the far right in the EU will not let that happen. Look at the Med and the problems with migration from North Africa.

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

26 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Where I mainly agree with you, I do differ on parts of Africa. But that is another thread.

Concerning the riots. I understand they were not Palestine based, but the far right in the EU will not let that happen. Look at the Med and the problems with migration from North Africa.

the far right will easily accept the idea if Israel pushes it , best to do that discreetly, because the far right is buddies with the far right in Israel. 

[InkaUtexas 26,341]

22 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

the far right will easily accept the idea if Israel pushes it , best to do that discreetly, because the far right is buddies with the far right in Israel. 

Don't think so. But hey, I get it. You think they should leave so others can come in. A very similar argument is heard around the world, and yes, supported by external countries, we just do not hear about it. Sudan, Mali, Burma to give you three.

[Jameslaw121 4,455]

3 hours ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

why did you find that interesting if the protest was close to a "Jew population" (if indeed that is true) ?

I'm not trying to disagree. Or thread shit. But having lived in the general area for my entire life and having attended Temple Shalom, I can tell you that there are about 75K Jewish residents in the Dallas Area. And about 60K probably live within 7.5 miles of there. Including Temple Emanu-EL which was founded in 1875. As well as the Jewish Federation of Greater Dallas. I believe the Neiman Marcus Family as well and Mark Cuban live either in Preston Hollow or pretty close. 

 

[blacklab 11,993]

Taco bell dong is taking some time off, if you want to argue with him about his hot takes go to the cr.

[Macanudo 13,080]

17 minutes ago, blacklab said:

Taco bell dong is taking some time off, if you want to argue with him about his hot takes go to the cr.

How about actually changing his name to Taco Bell Dong?

[blacklab 11,993]

Reminder this is the thread for isreal-hamas news.

Posts about protests in the US or middle east politics or how you would fix the world go elsewhere.

[Brian Fantana 6,704]

Dude your brain is made of runny ass grits sometimes god damn

Seriously you just delete every post instead of separating out what is a major news story happening on the UT-Austin campus?

[Captainant 27,970]

3 minutes ago, blacklab said:

Reminder this is the thread for isreal-hamas news.

Posts about protests in the US or middle east politics or how you would fix the world go elsewhere.

Motherfucker this happened on Speedway in front of Gregory Gym. This is the essence of Texas current events. 

 

Sorry it makes you feel uncomfortable to see it happening. 

[Evil Bill Obrien 3,324]

8 minutes ago, blacklab said:

Reminder this is the thread for isreal-hamas news.

Posts about protests in the US or middle east politics or how you would fix the world go elsewhere.

[The Royal We 3,072]

Protest related to the Israel Hamas war on our own campus isn’t news related to the Israel Hamas war?

chickenshit move. 
 

So, because some boot-licking snowflake got his feelings hurt, it’s political?

[HenryJames 66,275]

Free Derka!

[blacklab 11,993]

No, because the posts don't belong here.

Why you ask? Because a bootlicker will come along, and rather than ignore him you'll then engage with him and the thread turns to shit. 

[Brian Fantana 6,704]

2 minutes ago, blacklab said:

No, because the posts don't belong here.

Again, so you just delete all of them instead of separating them out? This is an important news story.

[Captainant 27,970]

1 minute ago, blacklab said:

No, because the posts don't belong here.

Why you ask? Because a bootlicker will come along, and rather than ignore him you'll then engage with him and the thread turns to shit. 

Thanks for deleting the posts and protecting the bootlickers from accountability, as you ever do. 

Where the fuck does it belong then?

 

Is the deployment of the state troopers onto OUR FUCKING CAMPUS to arrest peacefully protesting students a forever verboten topic?

 

You are just making it such that the fascists and bootlickers get to dictate the terms of """polite""" conversation, you fucking useful idiot 

[blacklab 11,993]

you're both free to start a new thread about it, no one is stopping you and I would not delete or move the thread.

I've posted at least 5 times in this thread to stay on topic. 

 

[mdmost 43,292]

Yes, a protest at the campus this f'ing website is based around that directly pertains to the war this thread is about isn't newsworthy. I like you Bob but sometimes your moderating is atrocious. 

[blacklab 11,993]

It is newsworthy, it just doesn't belong in this thread

[Grimas 671]

4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Thanks for deleting the posts and protecting the bootlickers from accountability, as you ever do. 

Where the fuck does it belong then?

 

Is the deployment of the state troopers onto OUR FUCKING CAMPUS to arrest peacefully protesting students a forever verboten topic?

 

You are just making it such that the fascists and bootlickers get to dictate the terms of """polite""" conversation, you fucking useful idiot 

Uh, create a new thread?  (oops, blacklab beat me to it...)

Edited April 25 by Grimas

[mdmost 43,292]

Here we go

UT Pro-Palestine Protest Thread