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I would imagine there were plenty of non- terrorists that were also injured today which makes it tough to cheer Israel for this.

if you send 1000s of small bombs into the wild and then remotely detonate them, you have no idea who is holding onto them. Even if you think the majority will be held by full blown terrorists, there is still many others who get hurt.

my guess is that this was led by someone in Israel who wants a wider war with Islamic countries.

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12 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

There it is…..  @Brisketexan


Yeah....that's a pretty stupid take.  It's about as low-risk of collateral damage approach as you can take outside of perfectly placed sniper head shots.  I'm sure there were bystanders who were technically "injured," but I doubt that any were seriously injured, or at least no more than a handful, out of thousands of targets.  That's as good a "avoid collateral damage" approach as can be expected.

Dumb take.

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10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Yeah....that's a pretty stupid take.  It's about as low-risk of collateral damage approach as you can take outside of perfectly placed sniper head shots.  I'm sure there were bystanders who were technically "injured," but I doubt that any were seriously injured, or at least no more than a handful, out of thousands of targets.  That's as good a "avoid collateral damage" approach as can be expected.

Dumb take.

It’s like NYT Pitchbot…

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25 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I would imagine there were plenty of non- terrorists that were also injured today which makes it tough to cheer Israel for this.

if you send 1000s of small bombs into the wild and then remotely detonate them, you have no idea who is holding onto them. Even if you think the majority will be held by full blown terrorists, there is still many others who get hurt.

my guess is that this was led by someone in Israel who wants a wider war with Islamic countries.

 

2000 lb bombs on apartments are way more precise 

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Beyond the wounding and killing done today to bad dudes, what a psychological win it is. 

Those that survive their wounds will always be wondering if their phone, pager, or other electronic device is going to fuck them up again soon, or sometime later down the road.   🤷‍♂️            

Mossad putting terror into the terrorists.

 

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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

NYT reporting that the devices beeped for a few seconds before going off, and also that there are a lot of eye injuries (because you’re looking at the message).  I’d love to know if it said something.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/17/world/israel-hamas-war-news

 

"It's 11:00 in the morning. And OU still sucks... But Hezbollah blows!!!"

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3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

One of the stories I read stopped to explain what a pager was.  I felt old.

HAHAHAHAHA - BBC just explained what a pager was. Jesus. 

tom delonge wtf GIF

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2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I would imagine there were plenty of non- terrorists that were also injured today which makes it tough to cheer Israel for this.

if you send 1000s of small bombs into the wild and then remotely detonate them, you have no idea who is holding onto them. Even if you think the majority will be held by full blown terrorists, there is still many others who get hurt.

my guess is that this was led by someone in Israel who wants a wider war with Islamic countries.

It's 2024.  Who else would be carrying pagers?  A pager is probably harder to find in the wild than a cell phone.  Hezbollah apparently never watched The Wire.  They would have known to buy their pagers from different suppliers so it didn't get compromised.  HumInt for Israel probably got ripped off their was a big batch of pagers being ordered and being delivered to Lebanon and perked some ears.  Pagers I believe run on 2 and 3 G networks so they had to be specifically modified.  As far as the no explosive theory I don't buy it.  Yes. You can overheat a battery and cause it to explode but the heat rise is gonna burn your ass that you're gonna throw it before it explodes

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10 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Looks like Israeli intel blew up Hezbollah pagers across Beirut. Fucking savage. 
 

https://x.com/michaelh992/status/1836032981250580573?s=46 

(Tweet that isn’t embedded is graphic) 

 

 

10 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It was literally a pager.  What it seems is that Israeli intelligence compromised whoever provided Hezbollah with the devices. 
 

 

 

10 hours ago, Laxtonto said:

Another one...

 

This is just fucking wild

 

9 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

Friend sent this:

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8 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

As far as the no explosive theory I don't buy it. 

It seems pretty clear there were explosives involved lol. The video of the pager that blew up in the dresser left fuckin circles above and below where it was, and there's been reporting of it being about 25gr (less than an ounce) of explosives

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29 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Hot Fuzz Shame GIF

 

So this literally means that not only was he around one, but he actually grabbed it as was looking at the potential message. This implies he has done this before in the past and it was a routine activity...

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50 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It seems pretty clear there were explosives involved lol. The video of the pager that blew up in the dresser left fuckin circles above and below where it was, and there's been reporting of it being about 25gr (less than an ounce) of explosives

That's a heavy ass pager.  Now you gotta weigh pagers

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7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

So the UN has Hezbollah issued pagers? OR do they think the IDF would target them?

 

I don't know, though history has shown time after time that UN agencies are often thoroughly penetrated by local terrorist orgs.

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Deliberate, patient, and targeted.

Now THIS is how you go about combatting a terrorist organization. There's obviously no guarantee of zero collateral damage, but hats off to Israeli intelligence for creatively devising a way to fuck up as many dickheads as possible while also minimizing harm to innocents.

We could call this one "Operation Hezbollah Hobbled (literally)."

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8 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

I don't know, though history has shown time after time that UN agencies are often thoroughly penetrated by local terrorist orgs.

Not the entire staff. That would include internationals, etc.

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18 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Deliberate, patient, and targeted.

Now THIS is how you go about combatting a terrorist organization. There's obviously no guarantee of zero collateral damage, but hats off to Israeli intelligence for creatively devising a way to fuck up as many dickheads as possible while also minimizing harm to innocents.

We could call this one "Operation Hezbollah Hobbled (literally)."

And long term impact. No trust in comms, lack of command and control, and knowing who was who.

Fucking brilliant.

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Every video of injured is a male between the ages of 18-45.  The hospital video making the rounds has what appears to be one single kid who could be a teenager being carried.  I've not seen a single woman injured or kids and hezbollah would be advertising those pictures all over the world if others got hurt in this operation. 

It was a complete and total masterclass in every single way possible.  

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12 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

can you go on a jihad with no balls ?

 

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11 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 eye injuries (because you’re looking at the message) I’d love to know if it said something

 

 

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I did see 1 DW news article that claimed a young girl was killed by the pagers, but that hasnt been confirmed. but overall... holy shit that was a masterful operation.   Because its looking more likely that Israel nudged Hezzbollah to throw away all their old devices, they effectively forced them to choose another communication method... what would be absolutely top notch would be if they somehow used some sort of inception-level response to remind them that pagers existed and would be a good alternative communication method.

 

also I like how no one else pointed out that the first video showing the guy in the grocery store being blown up.... after the explosion, there looks to be an absolute SHITLOAD of money that fell on the floor under the fruit/vegetable table.... and a lot of it looks like US Dollars.

23 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 

 

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I purposely left this out of the original reply because its naive- level funny.

sometime in the 1989-90 school year, I would guess the 1990 portion. I was a Freshman in HS.  I am sitting in homeroom and the Principle comes on after morning announcements. 

 

and emphatically stated that pagers are not allowed in school anymore, that the "only normal use for them is by a doctor, lawyer or nurse, and that no student should ever need a pager." and anyone caught with one would be automatically suspended.  and he then logged off.

 

and me, pure bred D.A.R.E., naive army-brat white boy, during the 1-2 mins left before first bell am wondering aloud... "why the fuck would a student need a pager"

 

and thats when my urban classmate that sat next to me told me that, thats how drug dealers work....   Whiteboy97-horn learned a very interesting lesson that day.....

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/asia/taiwan-pagers-lebanon.html

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Gold Apollo, a Taiwanese company that American and other officials named as the supplier of pagers used in attacks in Lebanon that killed at least 11 people, sought on Wednesday to distance itself from the devices.

American and other officials briefed on the attack had said that Israel had inserted explosive material into a shipment of pagers from Gold Apollo, in an apparently coordinated operation aimed at Hezbollah.

Gold Apollo denied that it had made the pagers, pointing instead at another manufacturer that it said had made that model of pager, using Gold Apollo’s brand, as part of a licensing deal.

Explosive material that had been concealed inside a batch of the pagers detonated after they received a signal. Around 2,700 people were also injured by the attack.

But at Gold Apollo’s office on the outskirts of Taipei on Wednesday, Hsu Ching-Kuang, the company’s founder and president, said the pagers were made by another company. Gold Apollo later identified that company as B.A.C. Consulting, a firm it described as having an address in Budapest.

Mr. Hsu said he had agreed about three years ago to let B.A.C. sell its own products using the Gold Apollo brand, which he said had a good reputation in the niche market.

“That product isn’t ours. They just stick on our company brand,” Mr. Hsu told journalists, adding that in return his company received a share of the profits.

“We only provide brand trademark authorization and have no involvement in the design or manufacturing of this product,” Gold Apollo said in a written statement. Even so, the Gold Apollo website displayed a picture of the pager model until the web page was taken down on Wednesday.

Some of the officials briefed on the operation had said that the pagers, which Hezbollah had ordered, had been tampered with before they reached Lebanon, and that most were Gold Apollo’s AR924 model, though three other Gold Apollo models were also included in the shipment.

In a separate statement, Gold Apollo said that the AR924 model was produced and sold by B.A.C., with which it had a “long-term partnership.” “Our company only provides the brand trademark authorization and is not involved in the design or manufacturing of this product,” the company said.

Efforts to contact B.A.C. and verify Gold Apollo’s account were not immediately successful. Calls to a number listed on B.A.C. Consulting’s website, which gave the same address provided by Gold Apollo, rang unanswered.

Tracing how and when the pagers were packed with explosive material could be complicated. Taiwan’s sprawling consumer electronics industry is a complex supply chain of brands, manufacturers and agents.

Taiwan’s Ministry of Economic Affairs, which oversees trade, said that its records showed “no direct exports to Lebanon” of such pagers from Gold Apollo. The company’s pagers were mainly exported to Europe and North America, the ministry said. The company reviewed news reports and photographs and judged that the pagers had been modified only after being exported from Taiwan, the ministry said. The New York Times could not independently verify the assessment.

Mr. Hsu said that he had a longstanding relationship with B.A.C. before they struck the brand licensing deal. Looking back, he said, there was one “odd” incident with B.A.C., when a local Taiwanese bank had delayed a bank transfer from the company because the local bank had suspicions about it. Mr. Hsu said the transfer might have come from a bank in the Middle East. He did not say which country.

Whether Gold Apollo had anything to do with this or not, that Mr Hsu dude has to be a little uncomfortable right  now. What a fucking long game. You know BAC Consulting isnt the only operation of its type Mossad has out there. 

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BTW, Reuters story mentions two children were killed in the pager attacks: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-taiwan-made-pagers-say-sources-2024-09-18/

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Israel's spy agency Mossad, which has a long history of sophisticated operations on foreign soil, planted explosives inside pagers imported by Hezbollah months before Tuesday's detonations, a senior Lebanese security source and another source told Reuters.

The death toll rose to 12, including two children, Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said on Wednesday. Tuesday's attack wounded nearly 3,000 people, including many of the militant group's fighters and Iran's envoy to Beirut.

While two children being killed is sad, this is way better than indiscriminate bombing of innocent Palestinians in Gaza.

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