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4 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

I think you know where my thoughts lie on the current IDF operations and how they are being carried out. But there is some truth to that meme. So please enlighten us. And also add to the explanation why no one is in the streets about the ongoing events in Sudan and Libya.

 

There’s a ton of truth in that meme. 

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3 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

There’s a ton of truth in that meme. 

Yes, yes there is. That is the point I am making. Instead it is not liked so ridiculed. Fucking kindergarden.

I also want to add I do not remember any large talks or movements against rich Arab nations, some loved in Social Media. Yemen for instance. US Bombs, Saudi and uae pilots/SF personnel. Lots of Yemenis dead. When was the last rally anyone on here attended? Meanwhile, Dubai keeps growing as a tourist destination. Any divestment talks about US companies working there?  As for Sudan, there were some, when it was only the Government fighting rebels in Darfur or seperatists in the South. Now? Nope. And who the fuck cares right @Brian Fantana, nothing to divest from there to start with. (There is a lot, but we don't hear about it.)

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7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Yes, yes there is. That is the point I am making. Instead it is not liked so ridiculed. Fucking kindergarden.

I also want to add I do not remember any large talks or movements against rich Arab nations, some loved in Social Media. Yemen for instance. US Bombs, Saudi and uae pilots/SF personnel. Lots of Yemenis dead. When was the last rally anyone on here attended? Meanwhile, Dubai keeps growing as a tourist destination. Any divestment talks about US companies working there?  As for Sudan, there were some, when it was only the Government fighting rebels in Darfur or seperatists in the South. Now? Nope. And who the fuck cares right @Brian Fantana, nothing to divest from there to start with. (There is a lot, but we don't hear about it.)

We don't disagree at all. None of that is the topic of this thread. I don't know what you expect of me. Yeah, we (the US gov't and US corps) prop up and support some of the worst people in the world and nobody ever talks about it, especially in Western media, which is kind of my whole beef.

The knock is not that there is no truth to the meme, the knock is the guy who would sooner spit on any Muslim than talk to one is posting that meme purely to deflect from the Israeli government's actions, not because he gives a flying fuck about how many people MBS slaughters with our blessing.

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4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

We don't disagree at all. None of that is the topic of this thread. I don't know what you expect of me. Yeah, we (the US gov't and US corps) prop up and support some of the worst people in the world and nobody ever talks about it, especially in Western media, which is kind of my whole beef.

The knock is not that there is no truth to the meme, the knock is the guy who would sooner spit on any Muslim than talk to one is posting that meme purely to deflect from the Israeli government's actions, not because he gives a flying fuck about how many people MBS slaughters with our blessing.

OK, that is not how you came across.

And when you say OUR BLESSING thank you. This is not a Rep or Dem issue. This is muslims slaughter muslims all the time and no one says shit, including their media.

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Coming as someone with a bit of background in this - I don't think most people will ever understand the relationship Iran and Israel has, and it's above a lot of people's cognitive ability and pay grade. The public conjecture between Israel and Iran is usually just to feed the masses. What goes on in private is indicative of why these back and forth strikes have been so precise and calculated between the two, rather than say, the bombings in Lebanon that effectively flattened a portion of Beirut. An Israeli-Iran war is very unlikely. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

We don't disagree at all. None of that is the topic of this thread. I don't know what you expect of me. Yeah, we (the US gov't and US corps) prop up and support some of the worst people in the world and nobody ever talks about it, especially in Western media, which is kind of my whole beef.

The knock is not that there is no truth to the meme, the knock is the guy who would sooner spit on any Muslim than talk to one is posting that meme purely to deflect from the Israeli government's actions, not because he gives a flying fuck about how many people MBS slaughters with our blessing.

But the “meme” clearly showed a Muslim woman who did not care with the implication that the Muslim world did not care.    Not Westerners or Americans.  And the Meme is spot on.  

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Came here for Quinn's stats, decided to get political and tell the board they don't know shit. Cool. Cuz yeah, none of UT grads have experience in the Middle East, geopolitics, or world events. Heck, amazing we can spell Levant.

Lol at people here lacking “cognitive ability.”

 

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I was just referring to people in general, didn’t mean for it to be taken personally. 
 

I said that too because most people don’t care about the Middle East. And why would they? I don’t blame them, they have no personal connection to the region, so I won’t bore anyone with random minutiae. No one here will ever read Islamic Republic by Ayatollah Khomenei, no one will look into the details of Israel selling Iran weapons during the Iran-Iraq war, or the long and important history of the Jewish people in Iran. Hell, even the 8th President of Israel was an Iranian lol…

Jalal Al-e-Ahmad once said that Iran and Israel aren’t opposing countries. They’re in concert. 

But anyway, apologies for causing any offense. Didn’t mean it that way.

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29 minutes ago, parkavenueguy said:

I was just referring to people in general, didn’t mean for it to be taken personally. 
 

I said that too because most people don’t care about the Middle East. And why would they? I don’t blame them, they have no personal connection to the region, so I won’t bore anyone with random minutiae. No one here will ever read Islamic Republic by Ayatollah Khomenei, no one will look into the details of Israel selling Iran weapons during the Iran-Iraq war, or the long and important history of the Jewish people in Iran. Hell, even the 8th President of Israel was an Iranian lol…

Jalal Al-e-Ahmad once said that Iran and Israel aren’t opposing countries. They’re in concert. 

But anyway, apologies for causing any offense. Didn’t mean it that way.

 

A lot has changed since Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini overthrew Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi in Iran in 1979, especially the dynamic of Israel-Iran relationship. So your information seems a little outdated.

 

As an aside:

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-826211

 

Iran's Khamenei seriously ill, son likely to be successor as supreme leader - NYT
Khamenei has served as Supreme Leader since 1989 since the death of Ruhollah Khomeini, the first to hold the title.

By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
OCTOBER 27, 2024 00:47
Updated: OCTOBER 27, 2024 00:48


Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, aged 85, is reportedly seriously ill, with his second oldest son, Mojtaba Khamenei, likely to succeed him when he dies, a Saturday New York Times report disclosed.

The report noted that Khamenei's serious medical condition created a "quiet battle" over his succession. It also stated that the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps would have a say in who would become the Ayatollah's successor.

Concern grew over Khamenei's successor after former Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi was killed in a helicopter crash last May.

Khamenei has served as Supreme Leader since 1989, when Ruhollah Khomeini, the first to hold the title, died.
Report comes after Israel's response to Iran's ballistic missile attack

The Times report came shortly after Israel responded to Iran's ballistic missile attack at the beginning of the month by striking numerous military sites early Saturday morning.

Iranian officials have said that they do not want escalation with Israel, the Times report added.

While attacking military targets in Iran, reports said that Israel had also attacked targets in Iraq and Syria.

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I haven't met anyone who has ever cared about the region, and people in my immediate purview generally would rather just nuke the entire region and be done with it than take the time to read something they could care less about. If you have spent delicate time with the region, then I do appreciate it a lot. Just not something I was ever used to growing up. Sorry if I came off as a prick

Interesting point above. Idk if he's sick but there is a big thing of succession going on under him, curious how that all plays out. Also Iran under the Shah was very close to Israel, but even the Shah had some choice thoughts and ideas lol. I'll leave it at that. I'm gonna get eaten alive in this thread

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21 minutes ago, parkavenueguy said:

I haven't met anyone who has ever cared about the region, and people in my immediate purview generally would rather just nuke the entire region and be done with it than take the time to read something they could care less about. If you have spent delicate time with the region, then I do appreciate it a lot. Just not something I was ever used to growing up. Sorry if I came off as a prick

Interesting point above. Idk if he's sick but there is a big thing of succession going on under him, curious how that all plays out. Also Iran under the Shah was very close to Israel, but even the Shah had some choice thoughts and ideas lol. I'll leave it at that. I'm gonna get eaten alive in this thread

Prick? well welcome to the group. Curious how you found this. And what is delicate time? Is that how you have to behave with a virgin?

 

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37 minutes ago, parkavenueguy said:

I haven't met anyone who has ever cared about the region, and people in my immediate purview generally would rather just nuke the entire region and be done with it than take the time to read something they could care less about. If you have spent delicate time with the region, then I do appreciate it a lot. Just not something I was ever used to growing up. Sorry if I came off as a prick

Interesting point above. Idk if he's sick but there is a big thing of succession going on under him, curious how that all plays out. Also Iran under the Shah was very close to Israel, but even the Shah had some choice thoughts and ideas lol. I'll leave it at that. I'm gonna get eaten alive in this thread

If you’ve never met anyone that has cared about the region, I suggest you meet some more people. 

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22 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Prick? well welcome to the group. Curious how you found this. And what is delicate time? Is that how you have to behave with a virgin?

 

It's how I was conceived.

6 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

If you’ve never met anyone that has cared about the region, I suggest you meet some more people. 

This is a good point

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I know we are focused on next week, but shit continues to go on. 93 KIA in Gaza. Also, Israel is blocking UN groups from operating in the country.

CAIRO, Oct 29 (Reuters) - At least 93 Palestinians were killed or missing and dozens wounded in an Israeli strike on a residential building in the northern Gaza town of Beit Lahiya on Tuesday, the Gaza health ministry said, and the U.S. called the incident "horrifying".
Medics said at least 20 children were among the dead.
"A number of victims are still under the rubble and on the roads, and ambulance and civil defence crews cannot reach them," the territory's health ministry said in a statement.
 
Later on Tuesday, Ismail Al-Thawabta, director of the Gaza government media office, put the number of fatalities at 93.
There was no immediate Israeli comment. The Israeli military has frequently questioned figures on death toll published by the Hamas-run media office, saying they were often exaggerated.
 
 
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