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My friend from Nazareth (works as a tour guide and I hang out with her and her family every time I'm there)... digital silence.  Can't get her by phone.  Hasn't posted anything on FB or Insta since Th

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I'm continually amazed at the ability of Americans to pick a side in this ongoing fiasco. I know people who are very pro-Israel and others who are very pro-Palestine. All I see is two bad gu

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International Criminal Court files arrest warrants for Bibi and hama's military commander

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2exvx944o

Judges at the International Criminal Court (ICC) have issued arrest warrants for Israel’s prime minister and former defence minister, as well as Hamas's military commander.

A statement said a pre-trial chamber had rejected Israel’s challenges to the court’s jurisdiction and issued warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant.

A warrant was also issued for Mohammed Deif, although the Israeli military has said he was killed in an air strike in Gaza in July.

The judges said there were “reasonable grounds” the three men bore "criminal responsibility" for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity during the war between Israel and Hamas. Both Israel and Hamas have rejected the allegations.

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International Criminal Court files arrest warrants for Bibi and hama's military commander

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2exvx944o

Judges at the International Criminal Court (ICC) have issued arrest warrants for Israel’s prime minister and former defence minister, as well as Hamas's military commander.

A statement said a pre-trial chamber had rejected Israel’s challenges to the court’s jurisdiction and issued warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant.

A warrant was also issued for Mohammed Deif, although the Israeli military has said he was killed in an air strike in Gaza in July.

The judges said there were “reasonable grounds” the three men bore "criminal responsibility" for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity during the war between Israel and Hamas. Both Israel and Hamas have rejected the allegations.

how is this handled?  is it enforceable?

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20 minutes ago, MontereyMX said:

how is this handled?  is it enforceable?

Bolverk had a good visual and explainer

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Bibi is now subject to arrest in any of the green countries under the Rome Statute if he visits any of them.

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20 minutes ago, MontereyMX said:

how is this handled?  is it enforceable?

Yes, it's enforceable. Netanyahu is subject to arrest if he travels to any nation that has signed the Rome Statutes, the same as Putin.

Here's the link from where I got the map that @Captainant quoted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_parties_to_the_Rome_Statute

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Here are other world leaders charged with war crimes.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel has joined a short list of sitting leaders charged by the International Criminal Court.

The warrant announced against him on Thursday puts Mr. Netanyahu in the same category as Omar Hassan al-Bashir, the deposed president of Sudan, and President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. As part of their membership in the court, countries are required to arrest people for whom it has issued warrants, though that obligation has not always been observed.

Here is a closer look at some of the leaders for whom warrants have been issued by the court since its creation more than two decades ago.

Vladimir Putin of Russia
The court issued an arrest warrant for Mr. Putin in March 2023 over crimes committed during Moscow’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, including for the forcible deportation of children. A warrant was also issued for Maria Lvova-Belova, Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights.

Mr. Putin has since made several international trips, including to China, which is not a member of the court. His first state visit to an I.C.C. member since the warrant was issued was in September, to Mongolia, where he received a red-carpet welcome.

Omar Hassan al-Bashir of Sudan
The court issued warrants in 2009 and 2010 for Mr. al-Bashir, citing genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes committed in the western region of Darfur.

The court has also charged several other Sudanese officials, including a former defense minister, Abdel Raheem Muhammad Hussein, with crimes in Darfur.

In 2015, Mr. al-Bashir traveled to an African Union summit in South Africa in defiance of the warrant, but was not arrested.

Mr. al-Bashir, 80, was deposed in 2019 after three decades in power, and also faces charges in Sudan related to the 1989 coup that propelled him to power. He could receive the death sentence or life in prison on those charges if convicted.

Muammar el-Qaddafi of Libya
The court issued arrest warrants in 2011 for Libya’s then leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, along with one of his sons and his intelligence chief, accusing them of crimes against humanity during the first two weeks of the uprising in Libya that led to a NATO bombing campaign.

Mr. Qaddafi was killed by rebels in Libya months later and never appeared before the court. His son remains at large.

William Ruto of Kenya
The court dropped a case in 2016 against William Ruto, then Kenya’s deputy president, who had been charged in 2011 with crimes against humanity and other offenses in connection with post-election violence in Kenya in 2007 and 2008. Mr. Ruto was elected president of Kenya in 2022.

Laurent Gbagbo of Ivory Coast
The former president of Ivory Coast, Laurent Gbagbo, was also indicted by the court in 2011 over acts committed during violence after the country’s elections in 2010.

Mr. Gbagbo and another leader in Ivory Coast, Charles Blé Goudé, were acquitted in 2021.

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2 hours ago, bolverk said:

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Here are other world leaders charged with war crimes.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel has joined a short list of sitting leaders charged by the International Criminal Court.

The warrant announced against him on Thursday puts Mr. Netanyahu in the same category as Omar Hassan al-Bashir, the deposed president of Sudan, and President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. As part of their membership in the court, countries are required to arrest people for whom it has issued warrants, though that obligation has not always been observed.

Here is a closer look at some of the leaders for whom warrants have been issued by the court since its creation more than two decades ago.

Vladimir Putin of Russia
The court issued an arrest warrant for Mr. Putin in March 2023 over crimes committed during Moscow’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, including for the forcible deportation of children. A warrant was also issued for Maria Lvova-Belova, Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights.

Mr. Putin has since made several international trips, including to China, which is not a member of the court. His first state visit to an I.C.C. member since the warrant was issued was in September, to Mongolia, where he received a red-carpet welcome.

Omar Hassan al-Bashir of Sudan
The court issued warrants in 2009 and 2010 for Mr. al-Bashir, citing genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes committed in the western region of Darfur.

The court has also charged several other Sudanese officials, including a former defense minister, Abdel Raheem Muhammad Hussein, with crimes in Darfur.

In 2015, Mr. al-Bashir traveled to an African Union summit in South Africa in defiance of the warrant, but was not arrested.

Mr. al-Bashir, 80, was deposed in 2019 after three decades in power, and also faces charges in Sudan related to the 1989 coup that propelled him to power. He could receive the death sentence or life in prison on those charges if convicted.

Muammar el-Qaddafi of Libya
The court issued arrest warrants in 2011 for Libya’s then leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, along with one of his sons and his intelligence chief, accusing them of crimes against humanity during the first two weeks of the uprising in Libya that led to a NATO bombing campaign.

Mr. Qaddafi was killed by rebels in Libya months later and never appeared before the court. His son remains at large.

William Ruto of Kenya
The court dropped a case in 2016 against William Ruto, then Kenya’s deputy president, who had been charged in 2011 with crimes against humanity and other offenses in connection with post-election violence in Kenya in 2007 and 2008. Mr. Ruto was elected president of Kenya in 2022.

Laurent Gbagbo of Ivory Coast
The former president of Ivory Coast, Laurent Gbagbo, was also indicted by the court in 2011 over acts committed during violence after the country’s elections in 2010.

Mr. Gbagbo and another leader in Ivory Coast, Charles Blé Goudé, were acquitted in 2021.

The Ruto one is funny. What he did is normal shit in Africa. Shit he was in DC and NY after stops in the EU this year negotiating the Kenyan troops going into Haiti.

It is interesting who is not on there.

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1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

The Ruto one is funny. What he did is normal shit in Africa. Shit he was in DC and NY after stops in the EU this year negotiating the Kenyan troops going into Haiti.

It is interesting who is not on there.

The piece says they dropped the charges against him, so I guess he's free to travel about the globe. I know absolutely zero about the case or allegations that were leveled against him.

I might be confusing the two courts (ICC, ICJ), but wasn't this case against Israeli & Hamas leadership initiated by South Africa? If so, could it also be that other countries haven't accused other world leaders of war crimes? In other words, would one have to submit a case to the ICC for them to investigate charges for other alleged war crimes?

Anyway, I need to hit the road and won't be back online again until tonight.

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4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

The piece says they dropped the charges against him, so I guess he's free to travel about the globe. I know absolutely zero about the case or allegations that were leveled against him.

I might be confusing the two courts (ICC, ICJ), but wasn't this case against Israeli & Hamas leadership initiated by South Africa? If so, could it also be that other countries haven't accused other world leaders of war crimes? In other words, would one have to submit a case to the ICC for them to investigate charges for other alleged war crimes?

Anyway, I need to hit the road and won't be back online again until tonight.

I will look into it. Bored today. Will post something in Global thread to keep this one going straight and narrow like we are instructed by the overlords.

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16 minutes ago, bolverk said:

The piece says they dropped the charges against him, so I guess he's free to travel about the globe. I know absolutely zero about the case or allegations that were leveled against him.

I might be confusing the two courts (ICC, ICJ), but wasn't this case against Israeli & Hamas leadership initiated by South Africa? If so, could it also be that other countries haven't accused other world leaders of war crimes? In other words, would one have to submit a case to the ICC for them to investigate charges for other alleged war crimes?

Anyway, I need to hit the road and won't be back online again until tonight.

Ruto's case was dismissed.

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That’s because it’s clearly not genocide, yet, in this fucked up world we live in, it isn’t politically correct to say that, facts be damned. She got cancelled by the woke mob. UN continues to be a joke. 

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40 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

You’re either about to (a) get totally assaulted for embedding a source from Twitter that was not beyond reproach or (b) totally ignored. 

Did you dumbshits even watch the video? It's timestamped from 5 months ago. That doesn't make you question the validity of the source? Are you fucking retarded?

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5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

 

Did you dumbshits even watch the video? It's timestamped from 5 months ago. That doesn't make you question the validity of the source? Are you fucking retarded?

European date conventions. How do they work?

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