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A commander in Hamas's elite Nukhba force, who led the attack on Kibbutz Nir Oz during the October 7, 2023, terror onslaught was killed in a recent drone strike, the military and Shiin Bet say. According to the IDF, the terrorist Abd al-Hadi Sabah, the commander of the Nukhba platoon in Hamas's West Khan Younis Battalion, was killed in a strike in the Israeli-designated humanitarian zone in the Khan Younis area of southern Gaza. The IDF says Sabah was among those who led the invasion into Kibbutz Nir Oz on October 7, 2023, during which terrorists kidnapped and murdered dozens. During the war, Sabah was involved in numerous attacks against IDF troops in Gaza, the army adds. In the strike on the humanitarian zone, the IDF says it took steps to mitigate civilian harm. The elimination is part of an effort led by the Shin Bet to track down and kill all of the terrorists who took part in the October 7 onslaught.

 

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It looks like the Palestinian Authority is getting tired of hamas' schtick.  

 

https://www.algemeiner.com/2024/12/31/palestinian-authority-hamas-is-using-hospitals-for-military-purposes/

 

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"The Palestinian Authority (PA) itself has revealed that Hamas turns hospitals into military interrogation facilities. As proof, on Facebook, the PA posted a summons issued by Hamas to a Gazan to report to Nasser Hospital to be interrogated by Hamas’ military intelligence. The post was made by the former official spokesman of the PA Security Forces, Adnan Al-Damiri. Moreover, Al-Damiri criticized Hamas for continuing to use hospitals for “summonses, interrogations, and extortions”

 

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7 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

 

For the same information, except not reported by Ben Shapiro (who owns and founded Daily Wire):

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-detains-medics-after-hospital-raid-health-officials-say-2024-12-28/

There's no evidence in the daily wire reporting of this pediatrician's involvement with Hamas except for a goddamn twitter thread. Your link is a Hapsburg report that's eating its own shit and presenting twitter punditry as undeniable fact.

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12 hours ago, Captainant said:

There's no evidence in the daily wire reporting of this pediatrician's involvement with Hamas except for a goddamn twitter thread. Your link is a Hapsburg report that's eating its own shit and presenting twitter punditry as undeniable fact.

 

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In five Arabic news articles, from four different articles, spanning from 2017 to 2021, Abu Safiya was referred to with his Hamas terrorist military rank of Colonel. These articles are published in Quds Net News Agency, Alray, Pal Times, and twice in Al Watan.

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A 2018 Facebook post by the Hamas-run Medical Services in Gaza refers to Abu Safiya as “Director of the Children’s Hospital, Colonel Hussam Abu Safiya.”

“It’s clear these news articles are using the word ‘aqeed’ to describe Hussam Abu Safiya which means military colonel,” Yigal Carmon, the president of the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) told The Daily Wire.

“This word would not be used to describe someone running a hospital as a civilian,” he added. “Besides, a few of the articles mention his role in the hospital in addition to using the word Colonel. Other doctors are mentioned too with military ranks and some doctors are mentioned just as doctors. They are distinguished.”

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Dr. Baxtiyar Baram, a Kurdish physician who volunteered in Al-Awda hospital and Kamal Adwam hospital, accused Hamas of exploiting the hospital. 

“I saw that hospitals had been used for hiding Hamas leaders,” Baram said in an interview, reported the Jerusalem Post. He added that he believes Israel’s accusations of using human shields is correct because he has “seen it with my own eyes.”

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Safiya’s social media history gave an insight into his beliefs before the Israel-Hamas war as well.

In 2020, Abu Safiya used a verse from the Quran about not allying with Christians or Jews to encourage against “normalizing with the enemy.” In 2021, he shared an image of terrorists with terrorist logos including Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. In a 2022 post, Abu Safiya called for the “beloved people of Palestine and Al-Aqsa Mosque” to be protected from “the injustice of the Jews and their aggression.”

“Nobody should be surprised that even doctors and hospital directors are part of Hamas,” Carmon said. “Hamas leaders are not uneducated thugs. They are the top of their society and highly-educated idealists, but their ideal is to annihilate the Jews.”

Abu Safiya has been especially outspoken on Instagram and Facebook as the IDF has waged a new offensive against Hamas in northern Gaza. The doctor told CNN he was briefly detained and interrogated in October.

 

Just because you can't read their language doesn't mean there's no evidence. It's been established, and well known for years, that terrorists use hospitals and civilians as shields. That's not going to fly anymore, and you need to get adjust to the new reality. No protests from naive idealistic westerners, no complaints from corrupt profiteering NGOs, no isolationist peaceniks bleating about "ending war", will stop the hunting down of the terrorists you so deeply advocate for. Get used to it.

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12 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

 

Just because you can't read their language doesn't mean there's no evidence. It's been established, and well known for years, that terrorists use hospitals and civilians as shields. That's not going to fly anymore, and you need to get adjust to the new reality. No protests from naive idealistic westerners, no complaints from corrupt profiteering NGOs, no isolationist peaceniks bleating about "ending war", will stop the hunting down of the terrorists you so deeply advocate for. Get used to it.

So to be clear, you're citing a Twitter post in which a communication referred to the leader of pediatrics in the hospital as a version of a colonel, and using that to say he's a member of Hamas? Not possibly a translation issue in which a military person refers to a civilian leader by a rank his peers would understand?

Idk man, you're really enthusiastic about claiming every one Ben Shapiro says is a terrorist is a terrorist. It's weird. I'd like to see more evidence than a Twitter thread before I go claiming a pediatrician is actually a terrorist. But don't let me get in the way of your outrage

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The fact that some cannot believe a doctor can be both is interesting. Add to that Hamas controls Gaza so anyone is power is probably affiliated.

And if anyone would have been witness to some of the shit Israel has done, might be a doctor.

 

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

So to be clear, you're citing a Twitter post in which a communication referred to the leader of pediatrics in the hospital as a version of a colonel, and using that to say he's a member of Hamas? Not possibly a translation issue in which a military person refers to a civilian leader by a rank his peers would understand?

Idk man, you're really enthusiastic about claiming every one Ben Shapiro says is a terrorist is a terrorist. It's weird. I'd like to see more evidence than a Twitter thread before I go claiming a pediatrician is actually a terrorist. But don't let me get in the way of your outrage

 

It's not just a Twitter post, it's five separate articles in Arab language media specifically referencing him as a Hamas Colonel, not to mention his own social media espousing radical and terroristic ideals. But hey, he's been interviewed by sympathetic progressive media crying about the Jews while wearing a stethoscope, so he's obviously innocent, right?

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2 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

It's not just a Twitter post, it's five separate articles in Arab language media specifically referencing him as a Hamas Colonel, not to mention his own social media espousing radical and terroristic ideals. But hey, he's been interviewed by sympathetic progressive media crying about the Jews while wearing a stethoscope, so he's obviously innocent, right?

It’s Fantana and Captain Ant, dude. I made a mistake in letting them out of the penalty box to start the year. Those guys are absolute assclowns. Fuck ‘em. 

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20 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Israel literally immediately waiving all it's previous redlines as soon as the Trump admin is on the way in is the least surprising thing ever

Of course you would find this conflict ending as a way to trash something positive Trump has an influence on. You are the type that would see America fail so that you could point the finger at the President. You are queen faget.

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7 minutes ago, WineGuy69 said:

Of course you would find this conflict ending as a way to trash something positive Trump has an influence on. You are the type that would see America fail so that you could point the finger at the President. You are queen faget.

I'm not trashing it, it's a good thing, I'm lamenting that this couldn't have been done months ago.

Maybe take some deep breaths.

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47 minutes ago, WineGuy69 said:

Of course you would find this conflict ending as a way to trash something positive Trump has an influence on. You are the type that would see America fail so that you could point the finger at the President. You are queen faget.

How do you know what he would post being new here and all? And it is also interesting spelling. BTW, that is not the correct spelling for the Mig15 either.

 

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Headline should read Israeli terrorists but whatever.

West Bank settlers attack Palestinian villages, angry about prisoner releases.

As three hostages were reunited with their families in Israel after 15 months of captivity in Gaza, settlers in the Israeli-occupied West Bank attacked at least three Palestinian villages, according to residents and the Israeli military.

Palestinian residents of the villages said that the attackers were masked and burned homes and vehicles, accounts that were backed up by video footage on social media verified by The New York Times. The Israeli military said in statements that the villages had been subject to “violent riots” and “violent confrontation” but did not mention arson attacks.

The military said that it had detained two suspects and handed them over to the Israeli police. The police did not respond to a request to confirm the episodes or the detentions.

Honenu, a legal organization that has represented settlers, on Monday issued a statement on behalf of one of its lawyers, Daniel Shimshilashvili, saying that two people accused by the police of setting fire to the homes of Palestinians in the West Bank had been released after a court hearing. It did not name the two.

The violence against Palestinians in the West Bank comes as many far-right Israelis have been protesting the cease-fire agreement between Hamas and Israel, hoping to disrupt implementation of the deal.

On Sunday, WhatsApp groups administered by Israeli settler groups were full of angry comments about the release of Palestinian prisoners to the West Bank and calls to block their entry with organized protests. Many users said that the released prisoners, some convicted of mass-casualty attacks on Israelis, posed a threat to citizens of Israel.

In Sinjil, a village south of Nablus, dozens of men, some carrying slingshots, rampaged through the village throwing stones and setting houses on fire, according to residents and videos verified by the Times. One clip showed vehicles burning in the village.

“People screamed as their homes were burning,” said Ayed Jafry, 45, a resident of Sinjil. He said that several people were injured, including an 86-year-old man.

On Sunday morning, a WhatsApp group for settlers posted a video of an Israeli man outside a shop with shattered glass, in Funduq, a Palestinian town.

“The next stage is destroying it,” he declared.

In a video taken from a CCTV camera in Turmus Aya, at least 20 masked men can be seen throwing stones and entering the village, as Israeli police cars appear in the distance. Villagers said the officers stayed clear of the violence and did not try to stop it.

Lafi Adeeb, the mayor of Turmus Aya, said that the police didn’t enter the village but that the military eventually dispersed the riot using tear gas. “I was shocked,” he said, because “this is the first time the army stopped the settlers here.”

Palestinian villagers in Turmus Aya and Sinjil, some of whom are U.S. citizens, alerted the American embassy in Israel about the attacks, and a senior U.S. diplomat called the office of Defense Minister Israel Katz to inform him, according to a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic information.

 

 

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Love the sequence of posts -- masked Hamas shitbags surrounding a single Israeli female hostage.....followed by Israeli forces being fuckholes tearing apart a Palestinian civilian settlement.

A pox on both their houses indeed.  There is no moral high ground to be claimed here.  It's just an argument about who is worse, when both are pretty fucking terrible.  Fuck them all.

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13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Love the sequence of posts -- masked Hamas shitbags surrounding a single Israeli female hostage.....followed by Israeli forces being fuckholes tearing apart a Palestinian civilian settlement.

A pox on both their houses indeed.  There is no moral high ground to be claimed here.  It's just an argument about who is worse, when both are pretty fucking terrible.  Fuck them all.

No offense, but raping and torturing women hostages seems a little worse than destroying roads. 

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Israel’s Campaign in Syrian Border Area Prompts Fears It Plans to Stay
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s order for Israeli troops to “take over” a buffer zone with Syria upended decades of relative calm along the de facto border between the two countries.

Israeli soldiers have raided Syrian border villages, prompting nervous residents to huddle in their homes. They have captured the country’s highest peak, have set up roadblocks between Syrian towns and now overlook local villages from former Syrian military outposts.

The stunning downfall of Syria’s longtime leader, Bashar al-Assad, closed a chapter in the country’s decade-long civil war. But it also marked the start of an Israeli incursion into the border region, which Israel has called a temporary defensive move to protect its own security.

Thousands of Syrians now live in areas at least partly controlled by Israeli forces, leaving many anxious over how long the campaign will last. Israeli troops have detained some residents and opened fire during at least two protests against the raids, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an independent monitor.

At least some Syrians now say they fear the Israeli presence could become a prolonged military occupation.

“We’re the only part of the country that didn’t truly manage to celebrate the fall of the Assad regime — because even as the tyrant fell, the Israeli military came,” lamented Shaher al-Nuaimi, who lives in the border village of Khan Arnabeh, which has been raided by the Israeli military.

Israel and Syria have fought multiple conflicts, but for decades, the border separating the two has been largely quiet. They last went to war in 1973, when Syria and Egypt attacked Israel on Yom Kippur, Judaism’s holiest day. Afterward, both sides agreed to create a demilitarized buffer zone patrolled by United Nations peacekeepers that served as a de facto border.

But when Syrian rebels drove Mr. al-Assad from power on Dec. 8, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel ordered his country’s troops to “take over” the buffer zone, home to a number of Syrian villages. He called it a temporary move to “ensure that no hostile force embeds itself right next to the border with Israel” amid Syria’s internal upheaval and after the Hamas-led surprise attack from Gaza on Oct. 7, 2023, that left some 1,200 people dead in Israel.

Israeli forces quickly seized the peak of Mount Hermon, the highest mountain in Syria, and advanced along the length of the buffer zone and beyond it. Around the same time, Israel said it conducted hundreds of airstrikes around the country targeting fighter jets, tanks, missiles and other weapons belonging to Mr. al-Assad’s government.

The continued military campaign, particularly the ground operation in the de facto border area, has prompted international accusations that Israel is violating the decades-old cease-fire. Several groups still hold territory in parts of the country in addition to the new Syrian government in Damascus, with Turkish forces in effect controlling areas along the northern border and a Kurdish autonomous region in the northeast.

The Israeli military is operating in the border area “now similarly to the West Bank, in that it can go in and go out anywhere it wants and arrest whomever it wants,” said Rami Abdulrahman, the head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, in a phone interview.

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Some Syrians said they hoped for good relations with Israel, citing their shared animosity toward Iran, which backed Mr. al-Assad’s regime. Israel also provided medical care to some Syrians inside Israeli-held territory during the decade-long Syrian civil war, including those from the border area.

“The medical treatment broke through some of the enmity that people felt,” said Dirar al-Bashir, a local leader in the border region of Quneitra.

But Mr. al-Bashir and others also said that if Israel’s operation became a protracted occupation, that would ignite further violence in a country exhausted by years of civil war. Israel already controls much of the Golan Heights, territory once held by Syria that Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast war and subsequently annexed in a move not recognized by most of the international community.

“We want peace, but the decision makers in Israel seem to think that they will achieve everything by force,” said Arsan Arsan, a resident of a Syrian village outside the buffer zone who has helped coordinate between U.N. officials and local residents. “If they push people into a corner, things will explode, just as they did in Gaza.”

Israeli officers have also entered villages to meet with local leaders and demand that they gather up all of the weaponry in their towns and hand it over to the Israeli military, according to seven residents. The towns mostly complied with the order, leading Israeli soldiers to take out rifles by the truckload, they said.

Israel did not respond to requests for comment on specific accusations by local residents. But the Israeli military said on Wednesday that its forces have seized and destroyed weapons that formerly belonged to the Syrian army, including anti-tank missiles and explosive devices.

Syrian residents and local leaders in the border area also said that Israeli military vehicles have damaged water pipes and electrical cables around some villages, causing blackouts and water cuts.

Turki al-Mustafa, 62, said there had been no running water in his town, Hamidiyeh, since Israeli troops entered the buffer zone. He said that troops had allowed some water to be trucked in, but had set up roadblocks around the town, ordering residents to enter and leave only at designated hours.

Cellphone reception has also become spotty in the buffer zone since the Israeli incursion, according to Ahmad Khreiwish, 37, a resident of the town of Rafeed, making communication difficult.

“Everyone is now living with this dread about the Israeli military,” he said. “We don’t want things to escalate between us. We just want safety and security.”

Some Syrians have protested the Israeli military presence, organizing demonstrations in at least four villages. Two residents of the town of Sweisa said Israeli soldiers had opened fire and injured several people during a protest there on Dec. 25.

“They were unarmed and chanting slogans against Israel’s deployment in the area,” one of the residents, Ziyad al-Fuheili, 43, said of the protesters. “At first, the soldiers shot in the air, but when the crowd kept marching toward them, they fired at the demonstrators.”

Israel’s military said that its forces had fired “warning shots” in Sweisa and that it was looking into reports that civilians had been harmed.

Even before Mr. al-Assad’s fall, Israel worried about Iran-backed militias gaining a foothold along the Syrian border. Israeli warplanes regularly struck Iranian officials and their allies in Syria as part of the yearslong shadow war between the two sides.

The decision to send in troops reflects concerns about the prospect of surprise attacks on Israel, like the one that prompted the 1973 war, as well as the 2023 assault from Gaza. That prompted Israel’s wars with Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon, along with Israeli airstrikes on Iran-linked targets in Syria well before Mr. al-Assad’s ouster.

“Israel is closely monitoring the situation in Syria, and will not jeopardize its own security,” Gideon Saar, Israel’s foreign minister, said this month. “We will not allow another Oct. 7 on any front.”

Syria’s new leadership has criticized the Israeli military moves. Critics abroad, including several Arab states and France, have called Israel’s actions a violation of the decades-long truce and called on Israel to withdraw. Egypt accused Israel of “exploiting Syria’s current instability to expand its territorial control and impose a new reality on the ground.”

Israel’s officials say they will only withdraw after “new arrangements” are in place along the border. Given the chaotic internal situation in Syria, that could take months or even longer.

In Kodana, a small Syrian village just outside the buffer zone, Israeli armored vehicles arrived just a few days after Mr. al-Assad’s fall, according to the mayor, Maher al-Tahan. He said the Israeli troops told village leaders to broadcast a message over mosque loudspeakers ordering Kodana’s roughly 800 residents to turn over any weapons.

Since then, the Israeli military has brought generators and set up makeshift barracks in the hills overlooking Kodana, he said. But since most of Kodana’s wells sit on those hilltops, he and other residents said, they have turned to buying expensive trucked-in water rather than pumping it out of the ground.

“The Israeli military must leave as soon as possible,” Mr. al-Tahan said. “As long as they stay here, the problems on both sides will simply continue to grow.”

 

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