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17 minutes ago, Lerka Lerka said:

What happened to the Israel-Hamas war thread? 

Yep. Was just coming to ask that. Um, read the title folks. Nah, who cares, lets argue here.

Surly gonna Surly.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Bevo said:

This is a lie.

Hey everybody!

BIG NEWS:
The United States of America is not a sovereign nation with its own Constitution, history, and traditions. In fact, we're not even America. We are Mexico.

Also:
We were always at war with Eurasia and 2+2=5.

Posted
2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Your insistence that such an offense exists when it's been confirmed that there was no crime or wrongdoing, or even breaking Columbia's private code of conduct, is just ridiculous. This legal resident is being deported for having unpopular speech, in a nation that specifically protects freedom of speech from government reprisals. For EVERYONE - not just citizens. 

There was / is zero insistence. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Girth Brooks said:

 

I think this is the gist of it. 

https://x.com/SecRubio/status/1899892869332173133

"Coming to the United States on a visa is a privilege, not a right. The Trump Administration is determined to deny or revoke your visa if you're here to support terrorists."

More in the video from Rubio above.

Also, as has been stated by others they're not in circles singing Kumbaya

Amid Latest Columbia University Controversy, Media Fails to Convey Pro-Terror Radicalism Driving Key Players | Combat Antisemitism Movement

 

or to sum it up more cleanly

https://x.com/Joelmpetlin/status/1899268982487580797

 

 

For those interested in a more detailed legal explanation, Mahmoud Khalil is also deportable for another reason: Khalil is a spokesman for an organization that supports armed resistance by Hamas. That makes him deportable pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1227(a)(4)(B). That provision in the statute allows the deportation of even lawful permanent residents who are "representative" of a "political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity.” 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)(i)(IV)(aa)-(bb); see also id. at (B)(v) (“representative” defined as including “an officer, official, or spokesman of an organization.") Columbia University Apartheid Divestment (“CUAD”) supports armed resistance by Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization. See Sharon Otterman, Pro-Palestinian Group at Columbia Now Backs Armed Resistance by Hamas, N.Y. Times (Oct. 9, 2024), https://nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-palestinian-group-hamas.html…… (CUAD supports armed resistance by Hamas). Mahmoud Khalil is a spokesman for CUAD. See https://columbiaspectator.com/news/2024/04/24/cuad-negotiators-leave-talks-as-shafiks-midnight-deadline-passes/………… (“Mahmoud Khalil, a Columbia student on the CUAD negotiating team.”).

 

You may not like the law, but don't pretend it doesn't exist.

FAFO, Mahmoud

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Posted (edited)

Maybe they were inflated, maybe they weren’t, no-one here is qualified to judge, but that article gets its info from (1) Honest Reporting, an Israeli pressure group that describes its mission as "combat[ting] ideological prejudice in journalism and the media, as it impacts Israel".  It has a decades long history of campaigns designed to silence criticism of Israel. It’s also targeted reporters, resulting in threat to them, from the AP, Reuters, NYT, CNN claiming they had foreknowledge of the Oct 7th attacks and claiming their accomplices with Hamas.  And (2) Henry Jackson Society a right wing, neoconservative think tank whose own founder calls it a far right, racist, anti-Muslim propaganda outfit.  
 

So just as someone should be very hesitant to believe Hamas numbers, you should be equally hesitant about this article.  

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12 hours ago, Jatrain said:

Maybe they were inflated, maybe they weren’t, no-one here is qualified to judge, but that article gets its info from (1) Honest Reporting, an Israeli pressure group that describes its mission as "combat[ting] ideological prejudice in journalism and the media, as it impacts Israel".  It has a decades long history of campaigns designed to silence criticism of Israel. It’s also targeted reporters, resulting in threat to them, from the AP, Reuters, NYT, CNN claiming they had foreknowledge of the Oct 7th attacks and claiming their accomplices with Hamas.  And (2) Henry Jackson Society a right wing, neoconservative think tank whose own founder calls it a far right, racist, anti-Muslim propaganda outfit.  
 

So just as someone should be very hesitant to believe Hamas numbers, you should be equally hesitant about this article.  

I will absolutely not be equally hesitant here as I am with Hamas. Call me crazy. 

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Oops?

 

Gaza aid worker killings: One humanitarian still missing in mass grave

 

Humanitarians work to recover the bodies of 15 first responders killed in their uniforms, who had been driving clearly marked vehicles, when they came under fire by Israeli forces on 23 March near Rafah, southern Gaza.

© UNOCHA
 
Humanitarians work to recover the bodies of 15 first responders killed in their uniforms, who had been driving clearly marked vehicles, when they came under fire by Israeli forces on 23 March near Rafah, southern Gaza.

“This is a huge blow to us…These people were shot,” said Jens Laerke, spokesperson for the UN aid coordination office, OCHA.

UN human rights chief Volker Türk issued a statement on Monday condemning the Israeli military's attack, calling for an independent, prompt and thorough investigation into the apparently systematic killings. 

“Normally we are not at a loss for words, and we are spokespeople, but sometimes we have difficulty finding them. This is one of those cases,” he told journalists in Geneva, referring to video footage taken near Tal-As-Sultan by an OCHA rescue party showing a crushed UN vehicle, ambulances and a fire truck that had been flattened and buried in the sand by the Israeli military.

Rafah mission
The clearly identified humanitarian workers from the Palestine Red Crescent Society, Palestinian Civil Defence and the UN Palestine refugee agency, UNRWA, had been despatched to collect injured people on 23 March in the Rafah area.

They came under fire from Israeli forces who were advancing in the area, OCHA’s top official in the Palestinian Occupied Territory said, in a detailed post on X.

Jonathan Whittall explained that on the day of the attack, five ambulances, a fire truck – and a UN vehicle which arrived following the initial assault – were all hit by Israeli fire, after which contact was lost with teams.

One survivor said Israeli forces had killed both of the crew in his ambulance, Mr. Whittall said. “For days, OCHA coordinated to reach the site but our access was only granted five days later…After hours of digging, we recovered one body - a civil defence worker beneath his fire truck.”

Bodies buried in the sand
The week-long rescue operation ended on Sunday 30 March with the recovery of the bodies of 15 humanitarian colleagues: eight from the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS), six from the Palestinian Civil Defence (PCD) and the UNRWA worker.

The body of one more PRCS worker is still missing at the site, according to the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC), which on Monday repeated its calls for information from the Israeli military.

Available information indicated that the first team had been killed by Israeli forces on 23 March; the other emergency and aid crews were struck one after another over several hours as they searched for their missing colleagues, OCHA said.

High Commissioner for Human Rights Türk said in his statement that the discovery of the bodies buried next to their "clearly destroyed" vehicles was "deeply disturbing".

"This raises significant questions with regard to the conduct of the Israeli army during and in the aftermath of the incident," he added.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/04/1161736

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