Israel-Hamas war thread

[Captainant 28565]

2 minutes ago, blacklab said:

you're both free to start a new thread about it, no one is stopping you and I would not delete or move the thread.

I've posted at least 5 times in this thread to stay on topic. 

 

You've already deleted and removed the posts and discussion.

If you wanted it to be a topic, you would have moved the posts. 

But you didn't. You didn't want ANY discussion of it, so you hit the reset button and removed the fresh context. 

 

You are a fucking terrible mod if you just memory holed all those posts and user content. What the fuck, dude?

[royiv 9797]

2 minutes ago, blacklab said:

It is newsworthy, it just doesn't belong in this thread

I think the reaction you’re seeing here is in response to you nuking an entire discussion surrounding the biggest story of the day in Austin, perhaps Texas, instead of you moving the posts that you deemed off topic to a new thread. I disagree that it’s off topic, but I can see the argument and would be fine with it if you hadn’t just arbitrarily nuked a bunch of content.

[pantone159 730]

8 minutes ago, royiv said:

I think the reaction you’re seeing here is in response to you nuking an entire discussion surrounding the biggest story of the day in Austin, perhaps Texas, instead of you moving the posts that you deemed off topic to a new thread. I disagree that it’s off topic, but I can see the argument and would be fine with it if you hadn’t just arbitrarily nuked a bunch of content.

Yeah, I saw something about national news where protests included UT, so of course I immediately went to this site, and everything being posted (some of which was actual news) was on the 2 Israel/Palestine threads, so of course I followed things here, and those posts just got deleted??? WTF???

[YGIFS 19458]

I'm still impressed to this day, after 25 years of posting on Longhorn-based message boards, that posts related to the University of Texas, on a University of Texas board are considered 'off-topic'   

I'm fairly confident had we existed online after the Whitman tower shootings, people would have said, "how is this relevant Lobo?  You always have to bring everything back to your campus experience!!!" 

[DDD Dad 14654]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Yes, a protest at the campus this f'ing website is based around that directly pertains to the war this thread is about isn't newsworthy. I like you Bob but sometimes your moderating is atrocious. 

It’s the hot sports opinions about the news that posters can’t refrain from adding to the news in their posts that turn news threads to shit. 
 

 

Edited April 25 by DDD Dad

[mdmost 44065]

1 minute ago, DDD Dad said:

It’s the hot sports opinions about the news that turns news threads to shit. 
 

 

We're not a bunch of robots. People have emotions, especially about news stories, especially one that hits really close to home.

[leaf 718]

20 minutes ago, mdmost said:

We're not a bunch of robots. People have emotions, especially about news stories, especially one that hits really close to home.

Well then, take it to the thread about the protest. It’s not that difficult.

[mdmost 44065]

3 minutes ago, leaf said:

Well then, take it to the thread about the protest. It’s not that difficult.

There wasn't a thread for it at the time but thanks for showing up with zero clue of what was going on at the time. 

[leaf 718]

11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

There wasn't a thread for it at the time but thanks for showing up with zero clue of what was going on at the time. 

There was a thread there 35 minutes ago when you posted that comment

[mdmost 44065]

Just now, leaf said:

There was a thread there 35 minutes ago when you posted that comment

Which I'm posting on. I was quoted and was responding to a quote. Make like a tree and go. 

[Michael Knight 13236]

2 hours ago, blacklab said:

No, because the posts don't belong here.

Why you ask? Because a bootlicker will come along, and rather than ignore him you'll then engage with him and the thread turns to shit. 

thread turned to shit the moment it was posted

[MagicSoccerSpray 1736]

1 hour ago, Michael Knight said:

thread turned to shit the moment it was posted

This thread turned to shit weeks ago when multiple turds when floated out of the CR and started shitting in this thread. If they want to suck terrorist dick and complain about the Gaza war, they should do so back in the CR, or start another thread. Instead they cry about "bOoTliCKers" and "FaSciStS" and further shit in this thread.

Edited April 25 by MagicSoccerSpray

[Brisketexan 106924]

This thread turned to shit weeks ago when multiple turds when floated out of the CR and started shitting in this thread. If they want to suck terrorist dick and complain about the Gaza war, they should do so back in the CR, or start another thread. Instead they cry about "bOoTliCKers" and "FaSciStS" and further shit in this thread.

Wait…so this thread is only for….CELEBRATING the war in Gaza? That’s a hot take.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1736]

10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Wait…so this thread is only for….CELEBRATING the war in Gaza? That’s a hot take.

 

Don't be obtuse.

[Brian Fantana 6868]

18 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

This thread turned to shit weeks ago when multiple turds when floated out of the CR and started shitting in this thread. If they want to suck terrorist dick and complain about the Gaza war, they should do so back in the CR, or start another thread. Instead they cry about "bOoTliCKers" and "FaSciStS" and further shit in this thread.

 

[MagicSoccerSpray 1736]

8 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

 

 

You're making my point for me. You are a horrible poster who doesn't add to the discussion, post any news, or bring up any good points. You are a troll who is only good at thread-shitting. You, and your ilk, are ruining this thread. Fuck off back to the CR.

Edited April 25 by MagicSoccerSpray

[Nivek 17415]

 
You're making my point for me. You are a horrible poster who doesn't add to the discussion, post any news, or bring up any good points. You are a troll who is only good at thread-shitting. You, and your ilk, are ruining this thread. Fuck off back to the CR.

This doesn’t seem on topic.

[Brian Fantana 6868]

14 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

You're making my point for me. You are a horrible poster who doesn't add to the discussion, post any news, or bring up any good points. You are a troll who is only good at thread-shitting. You, and your ilk, are ruining this thread. Fuck off back to the CR.

Alternatively you can fuck your own and/or your mom's face.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1736]

3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Alternatively you can fuck your own and/or your mom's face.

QED

[NeverMarryAStripper 22308]

I'm glad moving the protest posts made this thread so much better.

[Grande Mart 535]

I sometimes have apocalyptic dreams, perhaps from growing up in Amarillo and being told the commies were gonna nuke us from an early age since we had Pantex. I remember one when I was in college at UT probably sometime around 1997. I was walking around West Campus going to get a 40 oz from Grande Mart or something like that as I was wont to do, smoking a camel light, (damn I miss smoking) when all of a sudden I heard the Voice of God resounding over the Earth. It said “MAKE WAY FOR THE AK” in the loudest noise I had ever heard, then the shit hit the fan. It was quite intense. 

Edited April 26 by Grande Mart
No fucking good reason,

[mdmost 44065]

Yes, all those dead kids in Gaza are really playing the victim, you old cunt. 

[royiv 9797]

5 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Time to logout from Facebook and turn off Fox News. It’s time for your nap.

[HotSauce 106]

Someone doesn't agree with the groupthink logic, attack and destroy, right libs?

[mdmost 44065]

1 minute ago, HotSauce said:

Someone doesn't agree with the groupthink logic, attack and destroy, right libs?

No, my issue is making a joke about people currently being killed and/or starving but if that's how Grandpa Facebook wants to roll he's welcome to post it and get pushback. I've generally supported Israel up till they've moved well past an acceptable campaign against Hamas.

[royiv 9797]

9 minutes ago, HotSauce said:

Someone doesn't agree with the groupthink logic, attack and destroy, right libs?

Posted in the wrong thread. Appropriate thread is the Dumbass Things We See on Facebook thread, you twat.

[DDD Dad 14654]

16 minutes ago, HotSauce said:

Someone doesn't agree with the groupthink logic, attack and destroy, right libs?

Is this yet another Chrispy sock?

[DDD Dad 14654]

34 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

[NeverMarryAStripper 22308]

My opinion, as worthless as it is:

Israel has a right to exist

Israel has a right to defend itself

Israel does not have the right to commit genocide

Disagreement with Israeli state policy does not equal antisemitism

Israel does not have the right to attack US military personnel without consequence

Israel does not have the right to conduct industrial, political, and military espionage against the US without consequences

Israel does not have the right to unlimited US foreign and military aid no matter what they do

 

 

 

 

[DDD Dad 14654]

1 minute ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Israel does not have the right to attack US military personnel without consequence

Israel does not have the right to conduct industrial, political, and military espionage against the US without consequences

Has this happened?  Did I miss a report about this somewhere?

[NeverMarryAStripper 22308]

June 8, 1967

[DDD Dad 14654]

18 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

June 8, 1967

I was not aware of that incident.  Interesting CIA briefing released in 2006 indicates it was an accident (Israeli army mistook ship for an Egyptian freighter), and that the Liberty was closer to shore than it was supposed to be.  Other than conspiracy theories I couldn't find any hard evidence to suggest a different impression. https://theintercept.com/2017/06/06/fifty-years-later-nsa-keeps-details-of-israels-uss-liberty-attack-secret/

Regardless of whether it was intentional or accidental, how does that incident over 50 years ago apply to the current hostilities?

Edited April 26 by DDD Dad

[Armybrat 41416]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Yes, all those dead kids in Gaza are really playing the victim, you old cunt. 

They are a victim of the Hamas terrorists their parents voted for.

But keep on with the denial.

[Armybrat 41416]

53 minutes ago, mdmost said:

No, my issue is making a joke about people currently being killed and/or starving but if that's how Grandpa Facebook wants to roll he's welcome to post it and get pushback. I've generally supported Israel up till they've moved well past an acceptable campaign against Hamas.

I don’t do Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. or any right wing news

Your “pushback” is noted, but Hamas is hiding behind their women & children to deliberately cause their deaths so you can call it “genocide”. That’s the way those terrorists roll, but you can side with them if you like.

[mdmost 44065]

1 minute ago, Armybrat said:

I don’t do Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. or any right wing news

Your “pushback” is noted, but Hamas is hiding behind their women & children to deliberately cause their deaths so you can call it “genocide”. That’s the way those terrorists roll, but you can side with them if you like.

And the starvation? Fuck em, right? They get what they deserve because their parents voted for Hamas. Like with many things your shitty generation spits out now, this is the best response.

[Armybrat 41416]

From the river to the sea…..ok?

[HotSauce 106]

And polls show that over 70% of Gazans still support Hamas and October 7th.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/mar/22/over-70-palestinians-say-oct-7-hamas-attack-israel/

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514

But I am SURE someone will come in here and yell at me for sources and tell me this is some sort of Jewish agenda, misinformation, etc. 

[NeverMarryAStripper 22308]

21 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

I was not aware of that incident.  Interesting CIA briefing released in 2006 indicates it was an accident (Israeli army mistook ship for an Egyptian freighter), and that the Liberty was closer to shore than it was supposed to be.  Other than conspiracy theories I couldn't find any hard evidence to suggest a different impression. https://theintercept.com/2017/06/06/fifty-years-later-nsa-keeps-details-of-israels-uss-liberty-attack-secret/

Regardless of whether it was intentional or accidental, how does that incident over 50 years ago apply to the current hostilities?

I have read every account by the survivors of that incident, and to a man, they all agree that the attack was deliberate, that the Liberty was in international waters, and that the US aided in the coverup.  Israel has never acknowledged that the attack was deliberate.  This is exactly indicative of how Israel views its relationship with the US.

Edited April 26 by NeverMarryAStripper

[mdmost 44065]

3 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

From the river to the sea…..ok?

Yes, Bibi has mentioned that's what he wants Israel to control.

[Lerka Lerka 1097]

Am I in the Cloak Room? 

Some of y’all MF’ers talk too much.  If this upsets you, then I was probably referring to you. 

[DDD Dad 14654]

12 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

I have read every account by the survivors of that incident, and to a man, they all agree that the attack was deliberate, that the Liberty was in international waters, and that the US aided in the coverup.  Israel has never acknowledged that the attack was deliberate.  This is exactly indicative of how Israel views its relationship with the US.

Clearly you are a lot closer to this than I.  However I would point out that at least veteran involved does not share that opinion.  From the article:

Quote

Not all veterans involved believe in a cover-up, however. Former Navy Chief Petty Officer Marvin Nowicki, the chief Hebrew-language analyst aboard a U.S. Navy EC-121 spy plane that was intercepting Israeli aircraft communications as they were assaulting the Liberty, believed the attack was an accident. He stated in a letter to the Wall Street Journal in 2001 that though he heard and recorded Israeli pilots’ and captains’ references to the U.S. flag flying on the deck of the Liberty, these remarks were made only after the attack was underway, and not before. It was when aircraft and motor torpedo boat operators moved closer to the Liberty, recalled Nowicki, that they were able to recognize and therefore reference the American flag.

While he wasn't on the ship itself, he certainly had some first-hand knowledge of the events.

Again, how does this have anything to do with the current conflict?

Edited April 26 by DDD Dad

[wildcat09 29593]

13 minutes ago, HotSauce said:

And polls show that over 70% of Gazans still support Hamas and October 7th.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/mar/22/over-70-palestinians-say-oct-7-hamas-attack-israel/

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514

But I am SURE someone will come in here and yell at me for sources and tell me this is some sort of Jewish agenda, misinformation, etc. 

I'm sure you wouldn't support the enemies of someone who had bombed and starved your entire family. 

[Armybrat 41416]

Can’t judge him too harshly for that in some ways, given what the Arab governments (and Iran more recently) have been trying to do for the last 75 years, and triggered by 10/7. 

fwiw - I always thought the Israeli West Bank settlement policy  was egregiously wrong from the getgo, but the PLA made the mistake of rejecting the concessions TelAviv made a few years back. 
Unfortunately the innocent children are suffering because of the actions of their elders. 
 

[Armybrat 41416]

3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Clearly you are a lot closer to this than I.  However I would point out that at least veteran involved does not share that opinion.  From the article:

While he wasn't on the ship itself, he certainly had some first-hand knowledge of the events.

Again, how does this have anything to do with the current conflict?

The Liberty incident was a wake-up call to not put all our thirst in the Israelis.

[Armybrat 41416]

F’ing autocorrect…….. “trust”, NOT “thirst”.

[Herbie Hancock 7491]

They are a victim of the Hamas terrorists their parents voted for.
But keep on with the denial.

Dude. I have a feeling that politically speaking you and I are more aligned than I am with the above posters giving you a rightful rash of shit for your post.

Now that we’ve got the preamble out of the way, rejoicing or finding any humor whatsoever in the death of innocent people is fucked up. Doubling down and justifying the deaths of innocents because of the sins of their fathers is…..wow.

[mdmost 44065]

4 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Can’t judge him too harshly for that in some ways, given what the Arab governments (and Iran more recently) have been trying to do for the last 75 years, and triggered by 10/7. 

fwiw - I always thought the Israeli West Bank settlement policy  was egregiously wrong from the getgo, but the PLA made the mistake of rejecting the concessions TelAviv made a few years back. 
Unfortunately the innocent children are suffering because of the actions of their elders. 
 

Well let's just hope Israel can get better at identifying foreign aid workers and hopefully not blow our troops away as they're building the pier to help provide relief efforts. 

[Armybrat 41416]

I am not rejoicing in the death of innocents. 
That is your mistaken interpretation.

I am pointing out that Hamas and the people who vote and support them are the hypocrits.

But yes, the innocents kids are certainly victims of their government’s actions.

[wildcat09 29593]

Nobody has voted for Hamas since 2006.

[Armybrat 41416]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Well let's just hope Israel can get better at identifying foreign aid workers and hopefully not blow our troops away as they're building the pier to help provide relief efforts. 

Yes, that was a “Liberty” type of incident from what we have seen so far. 
Too bad the Hamas leadership refuse to surrender and save the lives of their innocents.