Seven Win Steve Rides Again!

[gmr548 16,576]

2017 - 3-3
2018 - 5-1
2019 - 4-2
2020 - 4-2
Herman's best start was in 2018. In that season, he opened with another embarrassing loss to Maryland. The guy lost his battering ram after 2020 and would have lost Thompson and Card with his playcalling by some point in the middle of 2021. I'm not real sure that dude has a better record from 2021-2023 so far than Sarkisian. Recruiting was freefalling, the portal and NIL exploded, and his own team disliked him. 

I think he probably eeks out a better record by a game or two in 2021. The defense would have been better and that alone means they probably don’t lose to Kansas. Probably wins a shit tier bowl game to go 7-6/8-5. If not fired then the seat is scorching hot. Side note - All that assumes Ehlinger doesn’t come back. I don’t know know how his decision was impacted by the coaching change. I do wish he’d have stayed for a year under Sark in hindsight. Would have been a much more enjoyable transition season.

After that, yeah, no. 2022 with Herman would have been an absolute disaster and he’d be all but fired after the Bama game. He was fired for a reason.

Think of it this way (not specifically to you but to the thread at large): whatever you think of Sark and his body of work now, it was an extremely questionable hire at the time it happened. There was not a slam dunk candidate floating around out there. Firing Tom Herman to do that was still the right choice and I don’t think anyone seriously argues that. That’s how bad he had to go.

[Levi 2,586]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

2017 - 3-3

2018 - 5-1

2019 - 4-2

2020 - 4-2

Herman's best start was in 2018. In that season, he opened with another embarrassing loss to Maryland. The guy lost his battering ram after 2020 and would have lost Thompson and Card with his playcalling by some point in the middle of 2021. I'm not real sure that dude has a better record from 2021-2023 so far than Sarkisian. Recruiting was freefalling, the portal and NIL exploded, and his own team disliked him. 

On top of Maryland, he absolutely shit the bed against Oklahoma st and West Virginia. 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

42 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

 

There are many headscratcher topics for me that rear their head on this site. People getting worked up about recruiting edits, or font types, time of day in which a game is played, and on and on. That said, the incessant conversing around various fashion styles and choices and UT gear is the weirdest and one of the most boring.

That’s probably because you aren’t a cunt. 

[Js1 85,310]

10 minutes ago, Levi said:

On top of Maryland, he absolutely shit the bed against Oklahoma st and West Virginia. 

[6th Street 6,392]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

So bring in another former HC (retired) turned analyst to help with that. 

I remember when people suggested Charlie Strong outsource the coaching aspects to an assistant 

[Hookem2147 21,208]

10 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I do worry about a few things:

1. slow starts (except for Bama)

We had 13 points through our first 8 possessions against Bama, including a possession that started on the Alabama 30 due to an interception. It wasn't exactly a beautiful display of offense and it was 3-3 at the end of the first quarter. Not exactly a blazing hot start. Which is fine because it's Alabama and their defense is damn good. But just some context.

Only time we scored on our opening possession was the Kansas game, but we have scored points on our second possession in every game except OU.

 

[Hookem2147 21,208]

13 minutes ago, Levi said:

On top of Maryland, he absolutely shit the bed against Oklahoma st and West Virginia. 

The loss to Oklahoma State was inexcusable (feel like we've said that about every OSU loss the last 10 years). We were coming off a bye week, OSU was starting some dude named Taylor Cornelius at QB and both our starting corners got suspended for a quarter because they were late getting back to Austin out of the bye week and missed a meeting.

[Levi 2,586]

16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Not cool with the double

 

11 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

The loss to Oklahoma State was inexcusable (feel like we've said that about every OSU loss the last 10 years). We were coming off a bye week, OSU was starting some dude named Taylor Cornelius at QB and both our starting corners got suspended for a quarter because they were late getting back to Austin out of the bye week and missed a meeting.

I remember thinking the same thing. Two weeks and this is the game plan? Herman was only going as far as Sam would take him. 
 

[Ignatius 4,017]

28 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

I remember when people suggested Charlie Strong outsource the coaching aspects to an assistant 

Like having a former Madden champ call plays?

[lilMAC25 3,792]

59 minutes ago, Levi said:

On top of Maryland, he absolutely shit the bed against Oklahoma st and West Virginia. 

Is that really any different than Tech and OSU last season?

[Levi 2,586]

35 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Is that really any different than Tech and OSU last season?

Not much different imo. It’s more about Herman not being a good coach. Sark could follow the foot steps of his predecessors and fail to get over the mediocrity hump (chuckles just sucked tho). The one thing Sark has going for him is he’s not as stubborn compared to Herman. Sark understands his flaws and try’s to correct them. He’s developed a good culture. The players, important people inside and outside the program, and all the fans like him and want to see success. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Levi

[TreatyOak 16,313]

2 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

No need to rehash the Turtle

Triggered 

[Thatguy 8,686]

3 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

I wish we had Herman as a consultant. Dude always had a good plan for the big games. He played up to his competition, but, unfortunately, he also played down. It’s like his little mensa ego could only be bothered to work hard for the Sugar Bowl or OU. “Oklahoma State this week? Let’s just run our stuff, coaches. Who wants to go Sugar’s with me and Kendra?”

He had a good plan in bowl games when you have a month to prepare. He was average otherwise. We lost to Maryland twice. Went 1-1 with USC. Went 1-4 vs OU. Lost to LSU.

[cmontexas 3,270]

Herman wasn't some late game winner either. Most coaches are actually pretty shit at clock management- Belichicek and his mentor Parcells being the best at it. Andy Reid was notoriously shitty for years and he's the 2nd most respected coach in the league. 

I also dont fault the clock management so much against OU now that its processed. If we go clock milk mode too early and dont get a first down we give OU the ball back with 2 minutes or so and a tie game. We needed one more first down to ice the game and didnt get it. The sack on 2nd down fucked it up.

Edited October 11, 2023 by cmontexas

[boilerhorn 1,375]

2 hours ago, 6th Street said:

I remember when people suggested Charlie Strong outsource the coaching aspects to an assistant 

Given everyone thought we were stuck with him indefinitely, it was among the best ideas out there.  

[Gil Bang 25,943]

4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

2017 - 3-3

2018 - 5-1

2019 - 4-2

2020 - 4-2

Herman's best start was in 2018. In that season, he opened with another embarrassing loss to Maryland. The guy lost his battering ram after 2020 and would have lost Thompson and Card with his playcalling by some point in the middle of 2021. I'm not real sure that dude has a better record from 2021-2023 so far than Sarkisian. Recruiting was freefalling, the portal and NIL exploded, and his own team disliked him. 

Even if recruiting was steady, the roster was turbofucked.  That's the first thing that Sark tried to correct.  We had the wrong numbers of guys at the wrong positions.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,444]

Niecy Nash is an American treasure. 

[NOOBSDUDE 588]

I’m almost a quarter century older than you, and I expect at least 20 more seasons. Do you have something to share with us?

Well all my aunts and uncles including my grandpa died before 65 so I guess I’m going off that. My grandma just died 2 months ago at 86 but she was a gangster.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13,091]

[NOOBSDUDE 588]

Are you a smoker?

No I don’t smoke and if you were to add up all the alcohol I’ve drank this year it would probably equal a couple of cases. Just going off my families health history. Let’s go with 30 more years.

[SocaliLonghorn 115]

16 hours ago, Js1 said:

So bring in another former HC (retired) turned analyst to help with that. 

 

I hear Mike Stoops is available.

[40acredropout 2,902]

On 10/9/2023 at 9:37 PM, LTtxfan said:

Texas fans (including Nicole44) deserve better results this season than that damn mistake filled game on Sat in the Cotton Bowl.

No we don't.  This is the whiniest, most entitled shitty fanbase that exists outside of maybe Nebraska, Aggy.  

[Valmy77 13,226]

10 minutes ago, 40acredropout said:

No we don't.  This is the whiniest, most entitled shitty fanbase that exists outside of maybe Nebraska, Aggy.  

I don't agree. The fans have shown up and filled that giant stadium at huge prices this whole time Texas has struggled. We support this program at a high level. We are the reason this program makes all its money.

Now I don't know what we deserve but to say the rest of us are shitty because you suck seems unfair.

[Tex Pete 20,342]

25 minutes ago, 40acredropout said:

No we don't.  This is the whiniest, most entitled shitty fanbase that exists outside of maybe Nebraska, Aggy.  

We are definitely entitled and whiny. But we have been loyal.

It’s not like people are bitching that we didn’t score enough points in the championship. Expecting a team to come in fired up to play your lone rivalry game of the year isn’t a big ask. It’s basic football.
 

We continue to fail at basic football. Year after year. 

[closetojumping 62,604]

28 minutes ago, 40acredropout said:

No we don't.  This is the whiniest, most entitled shitty fanbase that exists outside of maybe Nebraska, Aggy.  

This is myopic dipshittery at its most basic. Every fanbase looks entitled or whiny given various results on the field or court. Fuck you for painting us as uniquely bad to make yourself feel better. 

[Tex Pete 20,342]

5 minutes ago, SocaliLonghorn said:

If we work really hard, maybe we can be as good as Aggie someday.

You are a terrible troll. Clearly the fan of a worthless program.  You’re not funny or entertaining. Like a cat playing with a dead mouse. 
 

Get all your friends together and comeu up with 100 IQ points. Maybe then we’ll point and laugh at you. 
 

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

My myopic dipshittery is we fucking suck at hiring football coaches since Akers and that we talk to much about the past instead of focusing on the future and now as a fan base.

[SocaliLonghorn 115]

17 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

You are a terrible troll. Clearly the fan of a worthless program.  You’re not funny or entertaining. Like a cat playing with a dead mouse. 
 

Get all your friends together and comeu up with 100 IQ points. Maybe then we’ll point and laugh at you. 
 

 

I'm just trying to help improve our glorious Longhorns...they need all the help they can get. 

[immamac 42,839]

4 minutes ago, SocaliLonghorn said:

 

I'm just trying to help improve our glorious Longhorns...they need all the help they can get. 

And with this. You are outta here. 

[Liquor and Poker 3,659]

I don’t know if Sark is the guy but being ranked in the top 10 after a loss is far better than having your AD fly to Tulsa to beg a just a guy to be the OC, kicking off both halves, having your coach’s former boss constantly belittle him on TV, watching your coach kiss players, or watching the guy LSU settled for when we outbid them win it all.

So I am cautiously optimistic.

 

[Longboard Horn 40,301]

It's like OP is secretly rooting for Sark to fail and Texas to lose. Jesus Christ how much fucking money did you bet on us finishing with only 8 or 9 wins this season?! All that negativity is gonna bring you bad juju. 

[Longboard Horn 40,301]

I'll say this about Sark. At least he has balls to gamble. The 4th and 5 fake punt that worked and the TD on 4th and 2. Charlie Strong and Tom Herman would have punted. Still think he should have gone for it on 4th and 4. 

[purplepride95 6,890]

16 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

There’s nothing wrong with the suit. Niecy Nash’s wife wore it to the Emmy’s I think not too long after he wore it. I could care less what he wears. I do care about how he coaches. Period. But the designer of the suit is well known. Anyway, fuck what he wears. Just win out and beat OU in a rematch and I will lay off my Sark “can’t be HC and OC at same time” soapbox. That should make everyone happy 😃 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

Niecy Nash’s wife below: 

[utee94 15,811]

Pure internet silliness here.

People who post on college football message boards are the tiniest fraction of a percentage of a fan base, and aren't at all representative of that fan base.

When I talk to my average Joe Texas fan friends in the real world, they are consistently: happy when Texas wins, briefly upset when Texas loses, hopeful for a positive trajectory, and completely unaware of how Sark dresses for the 0.5 mile walk into the stadium.

THAT is our fan base.

[immamac 42,839]

Just now, utee94 said:

Pure internet silliness here.

People who post on college football message boards are the tiniest fraction of a percentage of a fan base, and aren't at all representative of that fan base.

When I talk to my average Joe Texas fan friends in the real world, they are consistently: happy when Texas wins, briefly upset when Texas loses, hopeful for a positive trajectory, and completely unaware of how Sark dresses for the 0.5 mile walk into the stadium.

THAT is our fan base.

It didn't used to be this way to be fair.

[Josef Pwag 1,738]

48 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

We are definitely entitled and whiny.

We have 1 football title in the last half century. With our history before that, our resources & other advantages, when is it okay for us to complain about not winning titles? 5 more years? Ten years? Is there a conversion chart? 

[lilMAC25 3,792]

15 hours ago, Levi said:

Not much different imo. It’s more about Herman not being a good coach. Sark could follow the foot steps of his predecessors and fail to get over the mediocrity hump (chuckles just sucked tho). The one thing Sark has going for him is he’s not as stubborn compared to Herman. Sark understands his flaws and try’s to correct them. He’s developed a good culture. The players, important people inside and outside the program, and all the fans like him and want to see success. 

 

Did you watch the same goal line offense that I did on Sat?

 

 

Im kidding to some extent, and to some extent I’m serious. 
 

 

sark has a lot of things going for him and number 1 is he isn’t an asshole. 2 is he apparently has a vision for what it takes to build a football team. 3 is he can design a hell of an offense.

Hopefully he can build enough talent on this team to overcome any other issues. 

Edited October 11, 2023 by lilMAC25

[Longboard Horn 40,301]

 

[Tex Pete 20,342]

24 minutes ago, Josef Pwag said:

We have 1 football title in the last half century. With our history before that, our resources & other advantages, when is it okay for us to complain about not winning titles? 5 more years? Ten years? Is there a conversion chart? 

I am not saying we shouldn't be bitching.

We shouldn't bitch when we don't like the route of our championship parade. I think it's great to bitch right now.

[USNALonghorn 5,078]

15 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said:

 

Holy fucking shit. This x 100. I was hoping to see him in 4x WR sets, rather than trying to force a gimpy Sanders to perform.

[closetojumping 62,604]

54 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said:

It's like OP is secretly rooting for Sark to fail and Texas to lose. Jesus Christ how much fucking money did you bet on us finishing with only 8 or 9 wins this season?! All that negativity is gonna bring you bad juju. 

You haven't read the thread, clearly.

Regarding money and the outcomes, I only bet on anything when I am at a casino. I don't have a bookie and it's not important to me. I cheer for Texas to win titles in every sport, every year. Fuck you for implying anything otherwise.

[SilasCoade 2,622]

17 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

That’s probably because you aren’t a cunt. 

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

58 minutes ago, utee94 said:

People who post on college football message boards are the tiniest fraction of a percentage of a fan base, and aren't at all representative of that fan base.

For real, Twitter is where the largest loudest group of the fan base is

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

54 minutes ago, Josef Pwag said:

We have 1 football title in the last half century. With our history before that, our resources & other advantages, when is it okay for us to complain about not winning titles? 5 more years? Ten years? Is there a conversion chart? 

It is of my opinion that we should expect championships year in and year out. Whether that be conference or national.

[Fondren & Main 6,710]

Expecting a Big 12 title this year is not entitled.  We have a heavily seasoned team, a very good QB and multiple weapons on offense.  We shit the bed in Dallas to a lesser talented team that showed up and put more effort into the game.  Shit happens.  Hope we win the rest and stomp the cocksuckers in the conference title game.

[MuellerHorn 4,229]

2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

My myopic dipshittery is we fucking suck at hiring football coaches since Akers and that we talk to much about the past instead of focusing on the future and now as a fan base.

If you think Mack was a failed hire, I'm not sure what to tell you. He's the second-best coach at UT of all time. Now, did he largely fail at the end of his tenure in Austin and make some other critical mistakes, yes. But GTFO here with this awful take.

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

4 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

If you think Mack was a failed hire, I'm not sure what to tell you. He's the second-best coach at UT of all time. Now, did he largely fail at the end of his tenure in Austin and make some other critical mistakes, yes. But GTFO here with this awful take.

Mack is the exception....it's obvious I didn't mean him. 

[MuellerHorn 4,229]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Mack is the exception....it's obvious I didn't mean him. 

Nothing is obvious when you make a blanket statement and don't proclaim your assumptions/exceptions.

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

2 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Nothing is obvious when you make a blanket statement and don't proclaim your assumptions/exceptions.

You read this board enough to know I've long that outside of Mack we've been dog shit at hiring since Akers. My bad you need me to clarify something so obvious.

[MuellerHorn 4,229]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

You read this board enough to know I've long that outside of Mack we've been dog shit at hiring since Akers. My bad you need me to clarify something so obvious.

Good thing to know I'm supposed to keep a detailed inventory of over 500 posters intricate opinions. Thanks.

I come here for information and humor, not to live vicariously through internet "friends." Maybe if you posted better and didn't leave out key information, people wouldn't make fun of your shitty takes so much.

Edited October 11, 2023 by MuellerHorn