Rolling Stone Top Guitarists Thread of Clickbait

[Deej 77,005]

6 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

C'mon man...it's Friday night and I started drinking early. 

[G650 14,292]

1 minute ago, Deej said:

C'mon man...it's Friday night and I started drinking early. 

Well I should fucking hope so.

[Celery Man 21,022]

My hot take for this thread is that every dumb criticism boomers have ever made about millennials is negated by the song “Coyote”. It fucking sucks.

[jimmyjazz 46,352]

Page had a swagger in his playing that White couldn't afford to purchase, much less equal on his own.

[Celery Man 21,022]

[ohchaucer 1,443]

One of my main reasons for thinking that White should be ranked very highly on these lists is that he doesn't really have any contemporaries. Who else post-2000 even holds a candle to his body of work?
I can't think of one other artist who has been or was remotely as commercially successful as basically a singular, guitar driven force as the White Stripes were in the 2000s. Like 80% of their shit is him, a couple guitar tracks and Meg White just sort of phoning in some drum beats. All of it centers directly around his playing.
(And all of that is true whether or not you like his playing)

Black Keys maybe? It’s a good question. And I love Jack and the Stripes but I think the inventiveness was in the writing moreso than strictly the guitar-ness of it. But he’s a great player.

The rest of the list is just a big whatever. Agree that Vince Gill and Knopfler are too low. SRV is a big LOL. Everyone else, I couldn’t care less.

[locodos 5,418]

56 minutes ago, ohchaucer said:

Black Keys maybe? It’s a good question. And I love Jack and the Stripes but I think the inventiveness was in the writing moreso than strictly the guitar-ness of it. But he’s a great player.

The rest of the list is just a big whatever. Agree that Vince Gill and Knopfler are too low. SRV is a big LOL. Everyone else, I couldn’t care less.

There was beef from White against the Black Keys...  It seems so bizarre to me that he thought they were ripping him off.

tl/dr White seems like an asshole

[Horn Dogg 4,003]

These lists are always fucking stupid.  At least they don’t have Clapton in the top 10 like they usually do.

In reality, some of those Spanish Flamenco players could wipe the ground with pretty much anyone else on the list.

Edited October 14, 2023 by Horn Dogg

[locodos 5,418]

1 minute ago, Horn Dogg said:

These lists are always fucking stupid.  At least they don’t have Clapton in the top 10 like they usually do.

In reality, some of those Spanish Flamenco players could wipe the ground with pretty much anyone else on the list.

Where was Julian Bream?

[ztejas 43,608]

2 hours ago, ohchaucer said:

Black Keys maybe?

Yep - they're pretty similar. Good call.

I like White's music much better, however. And I think he's a much more impressive guitarist.

1 hour ago, locodos said:

tl/dr White seems like an asshole

If we start picking out who's an asshole on this list we're going to be here all night. 

[DougO 5,257]

6 hours ago, Deej said:

I will contend he isn't better than most of the people behind him. 

He's probably not even better than most of the people in the Surly Guitar Pron thread.

[Gil Bang 26,069]

I'm not clicking on the list, but if Stills isn't in the top 25, it's a total bullshit list.

[jimmyjazz 46,352]

Where did Setzer land?  He's pretty damn good.

[G650 14,292]

10 hours ago, locodos said:

There was beef from White against the Black Keys...  It seems so bizarre to me that he thought they were ripping him off.

tl/dr White seems like an asshole

I mean the White - Auerbach beef is pretty well known, and I'm 100% team White. Dan Auerbach is a clown, amd blatantly ripped him off. It's not even a question

[Goredho 17,455]

This stupid list has garnered far more attention than it deserves, which I guess means it was effective internet content if a completely absurd ranking.  David Gilmour left out of the top 10?

[G650 14,292]

15 minutes ago, Goredho said:

This stupid list has garnered far more attention than it deserves, which I guess means it was effective internet content if a completely absurd ranking.  David Gilmour left out of the top 10?

Do you even Rolling Stone bro

[locodos 5,418]

2 hours ago, G650 said:

I mean the White - Auerbach beef is pretty well known, and I'm 100% team White. Dan Auerbach is a clown, amd blatantly ripped him off. It's not even a question

pppppfffft

Sure Auerbach is the clown.

 

[G650 14,292]

2 minutes ago, locodos said:

pppppfffft

Sure Auerbach is the clown.

 

Um, yeah? Not sure the point of this post

[jimmyjazz 46,352]

My dislike for The Black Keys' music is strong to very strong.  I know nothing about the two guys, but that genre ain't for me.

[Celery Man 21,022]

2 hours ago, locodos said:

pppppfffft

Sure Auerbach is the clown.

 

I think part of the context that is important to understand for this photo is that Jack White was and remains a professional upholsterer

[G650 14,292]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

My dislike for The Black Keys' music is strong to very strong.  I know nothing about the two guys, but that genre ain't for me.

They have a couple good tunes, Gotta Get Away is a strong one. But apparently the drummer who's name escapes me at the moment is a pretty big shithead too. He was married to Michelle Branch till he fucked around and she beat his ass

[locodos 5,418]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

My dislike for The Black Keys' music is strong to very strong.  I know nothing about the two guys, but that genre ain't for me.

Fair enough,  I've stopped caring about what anyone thinks about what I like and I also return the favor.  I enjoy Black Keys a lot.   Whether or not they are technically proficient doesn't matter to me as long as it sounds good.  If they are the new Nickelback, so be it.  I was surprised to see @G650 reference that it's well know that they ripped off Jack White, I think their music sounds nothing alike.  Maybe it was egregious,  I don't know shit about music theory, structure, etc.   

But it you played a White Strips/ Raconteurs/ Dead Weather song or a Black Keys song I could easily discern the difference.  

White has some bangers, but if I could only ever hear one or the other again, I would choose Black keys every time.

[G650 14,292]

4 minutes ago, locodos said:

Fair enough,  I've stopped caring about what anyone thinks about what I like and I also return the favor.  I enjoy Black Keys a lot.   Whether or not they are technically proficient doesn't matter to me as long as it sounds good.  If they are the new Nickelback, so be it.  I was surprised to see @G650 reference that it's well know that they ripped off Jack White, I think their music sounds nothing alike.  Maybe it was egregious,  I don't know shit about music theory, structure, etc.   

But it you played a White Strips/ Raconteurs/ Dead Weather song or a Black Keys song I could easily discern the difference.  

White has some bangers, but if I could only ever hear one or the other again, I would choose Black keys every time.

It's not the music that is the root if it, it's the shtick. Jack White predated them, then they ripped off the name, the toy store guitars, the lo fi thing. Etc... As I said it was very well known at the time. The reason I support White is he is genuine and the Black Keys were just a put on. I even by chance to got to laugh about it with the guy refinishing my burst. When he worked at Gibson Auerbach came in, and apparently the second he got money he bought decent guitars lol.

 

At any rate, I don't listen to a ton of either. Both have some songs I like, plenty I don't. I find Jack White to have a shitload more integrity though. And some of the stuff he is doing like preserving the art recording directly to lacquer is badass as hell.

[Underdog 28,825]

On 10/13/2023 at 5:54 PM, Chad Fuck said:

Well, then I'm just another idiot around here who doesn't pay enough attention.  

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[tbone_ 14,213]

There’s 2, maybe three dudes in the 19 ahead of him that could even hold Stevie’s jock. Give me a fucking break.

[dcar00 14,451]

LOL at that list.  that's the clickiest-baitiest I've seen in a while.  is this their attempt not to get cancelled?  well done RS.

[Deej 77,005]

On 10/13/2023 at 6:18 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Page had a swagger in his playing that White couldn't afford to purchase, much less equal on his own.

Who else had that kind of swagger wearing an argyle sweater vest?

 

[ztejas 43,608]

I'm sorry but I just don't understand the Jack White hate. I wanted to revisit some White Stripes stuff tonight and started with White Blood Cells. 

This is the first track on that album and within the first 60 seconds you are blown away by a masterpiece level lead guitar track.

 

Go plug your little amp into your little outlet with your little guitar and your little mic and play me fucking anything that sounds like that. Any of you. You won't get that sound in a million years. 

Fucking haters, man. Jack White is one of the best ever. He's an unreal talent. I hadn't listened to much of his shit in years and I still knew it. 

Fucking ay.

[G650 14,292]

You back on the sauce homie

[South Austin 52,664]

While we're at it we should put Rolling Stone in charge of the weekly college football rankings.

[alincoln 2,385]

16 hours ago, dcar00 said:

is this their attempt not to get cancelled?  well done RS.

Yes.  This is the primary consideration for all of their lists in the past 10 years.  The movement of albums in their various best albums lists is hilarious.  

[noharleyyet 2,853]

Who's Jack White?

[tbone_ 14,213]

I'm sorry but I just don't understand the Jack White hate. I wanted to revisit some White Stripes stuff tonight and started with White Blood Cells. 
This is the first track on that album and within the first 60 seconds you are blown away by a masterpiece level lead guitar track.
 
Go plug your little amp into your little outlet with your little guitar and your little mic and play me fucking anything that sounds like that. Any of you. You won't get that sound in a million years. 
Fucking haters, man. Jack White is one of the best ever. He's an unreal talent. I hadn't listened to much of his shit in years and I still knew it. 
Fucking ay.

Was the first 60 seconds of that YouTube clip the 60 seconds you are referencing? I started playing guitar at 10 in the 5th grade. Two weeks in I could have played that masterpiece level lead guitar track.

Maybe my sarcasm meter is broken?

[locodos 5,418]

2 hours ago, South Austin said:

While we're at it we should put Rolling Stone in charge of the weekly college football rankings.

Would anyone notice?

 

1 hour ago, noharleyyet said:

Who's Jack White?

Meg's ex husband who kept her name after the divorce.

[Celery Man 21,022]

12 hours ago, ztejas said:

Go plug your little amp into your little outlet with your little guitar and your little mic and play me fucking anything that sounds like that. Any of you. You won't get that sound in a million years. 

Fucking haters, man. Jack White is one of the best ever. He's an unreal talent. I hadn't listened to much of his shit in years and I still knew it. 

Fucking ay.

*glances across the room*

to be fair, I don't have a RAT or actually I'm sure that's a big muff, but I bet I could get close. actually *turns ever so slightly*

i could do that with this without even opening the software

[tbone_ 14,213]

I am going to steal that Matchless

[Celery Man 21,022]

7 hours ago, G650 said:

You back on the sauce homie

i wonder what would happen if you took g650's les paul and just set it next to whatever department store tesco guitar white recorded that with. some sort of rift in space time?

[Paul Wesley 3,289]

I remember my first fuzz pedal.

[tbone_ 14,213]

I remember my first fuzz pedal.

Really made my Sears guitar and amp come alive.

[Celery Man 21,022]

as a kid i remember marveling at the tone from Radiohead's Creep, which is.... like a Marshall Guv'nor pedal and a little red knob solid state fender. which of course is still an awesome tone

[tbone_ 14,213]

Iirc, Warren dimartini of Ratt recorded most of his stuff on a fender champ.

Say what you want about Ratt but that guy could play and he had some seriously good tone.

[G650 14,292]

51 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said:

I remember my first fuzz pedal.

My first pedal ever was a DOD Fuzz, the orange one.

[Celery Man 21,022]

I had the orange boss ds-1, wish I knew where it was. what I *really* wish I still had was my old Metal Zone. Fuck, I had a Blues Drive also... what the hell happened to that stuff? Sharing a rehearsal studio will cause stuff to walk away but I feel like if I looked hard enough at my dad's house I might find a drawer full of goodies.

[sidis 9,832]

jack white is definitely making a run at being the new joe bonamassa in the sense of an insane amount of digital ink being spilled over their merits as a guitarist/musician/etc... for someone i could not care less about.  in the case of joe b, i literally had never heard of him before this site.  in the case of jack white, i have never heard a song by the white stripes in my life that made me think "i need to hear that again, that was awesome."

not hating on jack white, don't really care.  but i definitely am not a fan of the musical stylings coming from the white stripes.  it was cool during the euros in 2012 when the fans started the whole seven nation army stadium chant theme.  other than that, the biggest "meh" of all time.

as for fuzz, hate on electroharmonix all you want but i love my big muff...paired with a tube screamer or klon and a reverb/delay pedal through my fender 59 bassman, it is my favorite hard rock tone of all time (that i can make).

for today's outrage at the assault on human decency from the r.s. controversy-generation list, gibbons at 102, stevie vai at 127, and bill frisell at 154 feel a little offensive.

[G650 14,292]

19 minutes ago, sidis said:

hate on electroharmonix all you want but i love my big muff

I think most people have the correct opinion the EHX makes cool pedals that are built amazingly shitty. I've had a black Russian Muff since it was new. I love it, but I've had to repair it innumerable times, including just this past month. Had to have my buddy the pedal builder send me some 100k pots.

 

Surprised you are using reverb on a Bassman, they have so much natural resonance with that cab.

[sidis 9,832]

1 minute ago, G650 said:

I think most people have the correct opinion the EHX makes cool pedals that are built amazingly shitty. I've had a black Russian Muff since it was new. I love it, but I've had to repair it innumerable times, including just this past month. Had to have my buddy the pedal builder send me some 100k pots.

 

Surprised you are using reverb on a Bassman, they have so much natural resonance with that cab.

have you ever wanted to power strum one chord and let the six minute decay begin, set your guitar down for a little feedback, walk over to the other side of the room, and play something along with it on the piano or drums?  because that's the perfect setup for doing so.

[G650 14,292]

I have not

[Deej 77,005]

1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

I had the orange boss ds-1

I have one that was thrown in as part of a trade. It has some mod called "acid blues". I have not idea how it sounds in comparison to a stock one, to be honest. 

[Deej 77,005]

30 minutes ago, G650 said:

EHX makes cool pedals that are built amazingly shitty

EHX never made a switch that couldn't be broken by just using it gently. 

[jimmyjazz 46,352]

4 hours ago, tbone_ said:

Really made my Sears guitar and amp come alive.

That's the only pedal I use.  Helps me get some sustain on my "leads".  (Ha, I said "leads".)