NBA 2023-24

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Not great Bob

[Quagmire 2146]

54 points from 3 and still lost , oooof

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

did they miss a backcourt on that wolves inbound play? kat caught on the plus side then ant came from the backcourt without establishing himself first before touching the ball? 

Looked like it

[Firemans4Horn 17792]

9 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

48 3s? wtf is that lol

They don’t want that Derek Lively smoke. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

[Firemans4Horn 17792]

3 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

His hands aren’t on the ball there buddy. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

His hands aren’t on the ball there buddy. 

[aggie08 21379]

3 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

His hands aren’t on the ball there buddy. 

Did the ball somehow go back towards the rim before he touches it?

[Firemans4Horn 17792]

Just now, aggie08 said:

Did the ball somehow go back towards the rim before he touches it?

Yes. It had a ton of backspin. That picture is beyond worthless. 

Just now, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Do you understand what “above the cylinder” means?

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Do you understand what “above the cylinder” means?

Here’s a better shot

[Quagmire 2146]

So your bitching about a close play while admitting they got away with a backcourt on the next possession? Makes sense .

[aggie08 21379]

13 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Yes. It had a ton of backspin.

I mean, that's not really how physics works with basketball and the amount of spin we're talking about here. Once it leaves the cylinder on a rebound, it's not coming back on its own. KAT's initial touch brought it back.

That said, the refs absolutely made the right call on the court. They're looking at slow-mo, not frame-by-frame still shots. On replay, it never appeared to fully leave the cylinder. No issue with the call whatsoever.

Edited May 23 by aggie08

[Firemans4Horn 17792]

3 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Here’s a better shot

At least this photo is a better attempt. After watching 6 years of shitty soccer VAR I can tell you that camera angles matter.
 

If you want to know if the ball is above the cylinder in that shot you would need a camera directly above the rim. This angle 2 feet behind the backboard isn’t going to tell you anything definitively. They reviewed the call in their command center and were fine with it. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

So your bitching about a close play while admitting they got away with a backcourt on the next possession? Makes sense .

Yea. I have balls to admit something. You defended THJs blatant flop.

Also the back court play probably doesn’t even happen if they corrected the offensive goaltending call. Totally different game

[Zepol87 9163]

25 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

 

[Quagmire 2146]

Yea. I have balls to admit something. You defended THJs blatant flop.

Also the back court play probably doesn’t even happen if they corrected the offensive goaltending call. Totally different game

Weird , they reviewed the so called “flop” and the goaltending and it stood , must be conspiracy .

[Drew 2331]

Glad I wasn’t in here for the game. Yikes.

Juts glad the Mavs played a bit mediocre and still won.

[Fastbreak 3948]

Looks about right. Idk about Sabonis and Haliburton but the last spot or two always gets murky. 

5 players of the 15 accounted for 1 total playoff win. AD, Bron, Steph, Book and KD. Giannis also DNP.

[LTtxfan 48927]

"Bring Ya Ass"  😋

Really enjoying this wolves/mavs series on TNT much more than Eastern Finals.  Wish they would lose Draymond though...

Also, Thanks to everyone that answered why they hate the boston/celtics -- great stuff.

[Dutchrudder 11103]

24 years of All-NBA 1st team players. Had to look up the 5th guy in 2015, because that is a portrait of a very young looking Marc Gasol. Funny to see Jokic left off 2023 when he should have been MVP and won the championship. The 2024 group feels like it will stay the same for next few year, but I could see Antman knocking Tatum out soon. 

[Dutchrudder 11103]

Long time coming, will be interesting to see who they hire and if that helps Mitchell sign an extension. 

Cavaliers fire coach J.B. Bickerstaff after five seasons

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Despite the franchise's first berth in the Eastern Conference semifinals in six seasons, the Cleveland Cavaliers dismissed coach J.B. Bickerstaff on Thursday morning.

Bickerstaff, 45, ushered the Cavaliers through a rebuild, winning 99 regular-season games in the past two seasons, but the franchise now embarks on a search that it hopes will land a coach to take Cleveland deeper into the Eastern Conference playoffs.

Coaching Wins, Cavaliers history

J.B. Bickerstaff finishes his Cavaliers tenure with the fifth-most wins by a coach in franchise history.

COACH    WINS    SEASONS
Lenny Wilkens    316    7
Mike Brown    305    6
Bill Fitch    304    9
Mike Fratello    248    6
J.B. Bickerstaff    170    5
After replacing John Beilein as interim coach in 2020, Bickerstaff had a 170-159 (.517) record in five seasons with the Cavaliers.

Cleveland was the Eastern Conference's fourth seed with a 48-34 record, beating the Orlando Magic in an opening-round seven-game series. Boston defeated Cleveland 4-1 in the conference semifinals as center Jarrett Allen and All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell missed the final two games.

Cleveland wants a fresh approach, and president of basketball operations Koby Altman and general manager Mike Gansey will embark on a coaching search.

Altman and Gansey will start to formulate a list of candidates in the coming days, but one to watch is Golden State Warriors assistant Kenny Atkinson, who led the Brooklyn Nets to the playoffs with current Cavs Allen and Caris LeVert.

The Cavaliers have a significant talent base, with All-Star guards Mitchell and Darius Garland and a frontcourt of Allen and Evan Mobley.

Under Bickerstaff, the Cavaliers were seventh in defensive efficiency with Mitchell, Garland, Mobley and Allen playing only 28 games together this season, according to ESPN Stats & Information research.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40203249/sources-cavaliers-fire-coach-jb-bickerstaff-playoff-exit

[d2o 1602]

12 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Long time coming, will be interesting to see who they hire and if that helps Mitchell sign an extension. 

Cavaliers fire coach J.B. Bickerstaff after five seasons

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40203249/sources-cavaliers-fire-coach-jb-bickerstaff-playoff-exit

Coaching (especially in the NBA) is a thankless job but firing him after he led them out of the doldrums, got them to the 2nd round and competed with a 66 win team before almost all of his team went on IR seems crazy.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18517]

12 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Long time coming, will be interesting to see who they hire and if that helps Mitchell sign an extension. 

Cavaliers fire coach J.B. Bickerstaff after five seasons

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40203249/sources-cavaliers-fire-coach-jb-bickerstaff-playoff-exit

They are going to let Mitchell hire the coach, essentially. It's all ridiculous because he's going to sign the extension no matter what. If he doesn't like what's going on in Cleveland, then he just asks out. There's all this posturing these days about free agents and movement, but when was the last time a bona fide star free agent actually got to the market? There is no downside to taking the extension. You maximize your money and get your security, and then just pull the cord if you want out. So, so dumb.

The more interesting thing is Garland. Seems like he's going to ask for a trade if they keep Mitchell. 

Just now, d2o said:

Coaching (especially in the NBA) is a thankless job but firing him after he led them out of the doldrums, got them to the 2nd round and competed with a 66 win team before almost all of his team went on IR seems crazy.

Bickerstaff was a dead man walking. They released a full hit piece on him within minutes of their getting bounced from the playoffs. He's at odds with the front office. Mitchell (and it seems, much of the team) lost confidence in him. And he's just not a very good coach in general. That team didn't win because of him. They won in spite of him. 

[MrX 708]

1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

They are going to let Mitchell hire the coach, essentially. It's all ridiculous because he's going to sign the extension no matter what. If he doesn't like what's going on in Cleveland, then he just asks out. There's all this posturing these days about free agents and movement, but when was the last time a bona fide star free agent actually got to the market? There is no downside to taking the extension. You maximize your money and get your security, and then just pull the cord if you want out. So, so dumb.

The more interesting thing is Garland. Seems like he's going to ask for a trade if they keep Mitchell. 

Bickerstaff was a dead man walking. They released a full hit piece on him within minutes of their getting bounced from the playoffs. He's at odds with the front office. Mitchell (and it seems, much of the team) lost confidence in him. And he's just not a very good coach in general. That team didn't win because of him. They won in spite of him. 

I guess Kawhi was the last big FA signing?  Although debatable if there was ever a “market” for him because he wanted to go back to California. Before that I’m guessing it’s LeBron to Lakers/Durant and Kyrie to Brooklyn?

[LTtxfan 48927]

Wonder if that Minny asst currently acting as their sideline coach will be interested in Cleveland job??

[Message Board User 12389]

JBB had many shortcomings but perhaps the most egregious offense was Mobley's lack of development.

[LTtxfan 48927]

Since folks love TNT NBA crew... fyi

TNT to air select College Football Playoff games

https://footballscoop.com/news/tnt-to-air-select-college-football-playoff-games

[HornOnTheBayou 8877]

49 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Since folks love TNT NBA crew... fyi

TNT to air select College Football Playoff games

https://footballscoop.com/news/tnt-to-air-select-college-football-playoff-games

My first thought was, "I would love to watch Barkley and Shaq go off on the A&M band and yell leaders". But then I realized it said playoff games and not "minor bowl games before Christmas" and got a sad.

[LTtxfan 48927]

Currently rewatching 4th qtr of wolves/mavs game.  So much more fun than Eastern Finals.  

Bigs for mavs played a helluva game... 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Currently rewatching 4th qtr of wolves/mavs game.  So much more fun than Eastern Finals.  
Bigs for mavs played a helluva game... 

Pacers are making it interesting, hopefully they don’t fuck it up tonight

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

And just like that. Leads back to 11



Scratch that 14*

[LTtxfan 48927]

35 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

 

Love this Western Conf Final matchup.  In 4th qtr, Minny settled for too many jumpshots.  Also gonna more out of ANT late in games.  Wolves were definitely gassed in 4th qtr of GM 1.

Freakin' Luka and Kyrie are damn good closers.  

[LTtxfan 48927]

[InkaUtexas 25423]

I know the Celtics are not liked on this site, but they were pretty damn good tonight. They win it in 6

[MrX 708]

Boston/Western winner is gonna be a great series. No clue who is winning it all right now. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

I know the Celtics are not liked on this site, but they were pretty damn good tonight. They win it in 6

Haliburton has a hamstring problem now

Indy’s all but cooked. Boston will have a week to rest while the west beats themselves up. They’re about to make last years nuggets run look like murderers row

[Mittens 8147]

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

They win it in 6

5. Should get KP back next game.

[InkaUtexas 25423]

Shit, I hope they can sweep the series, but still think Indy can play ball and play tough.

[LTtxfan 48927]

7 hours ago, Mittens said:

5. Should get KP back next game.

If celtics win GM 3, not sure they rush KP back... 

[MrX 708]

So Boston gets the Heat with no Jimmy, the Cavs without Mitchell, and the Pacers (potentially) without Haliburton?  Good crap.  I guess if they crush the Wolves/Mavs winner it won’t matter. 
 

I also don’t get why people rag on the Nuggets run last year.  Wolves, Suns, Lakers, and Heat all had their star players. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

So Boston gets the Heat with no Jimmy, the Cavs without Mitchell, and the Pacers (potentially) without Haliburton?  Good crap.  I guess if they crush the Wolves/Mavs winner it won’t matter. 
 
I also don’t get why people rag on the Nuggets run last year.  Wolves, Suns, Lakers, and Heat all had their star players. 

Probably because of the seeds. 8, 4, 7, whatever Miami was, 7?

The #2 grizz and #3 kings also lost in the first round . Not that they were gonna beat Denver. West will be tougher next year with Memphis returning and Houston/San Antonio.

Some teams should regress- warriors, clippers, lakers due to age

[Fastbreak 3948]

Simmons has been calling for Brissett to play. Today he led the C's in +/- (+18) in 12 minutes.

Just now, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Probably because of the seeds. 8, 4, 7, whatever Miami was, 7?

Miami was an 8

[LTtxfan 48927]

52 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

West will be tougher next yr with Memphis returning and Houston/SA.  Some teams should regress- warriors, clippers, lakers due to age

 

Awesome last sentence above...

[MrX 708]

Well, when you’re the 1 seed by definition you have to play an 8 and a 4/5. The Lakers got it together after the trade deadline and nobody believed that Heat team was the 8th worst team in the East. Agree the West is way better this year but shit the East is way worse. 

[UpperWestside 6103]

On 5/20/2024 at 4:16 PM, Reynolds Woodcock said:

You find him "vulgar and lewd"? Are you a 1950s housewife or something. jesus fucking christ, get a grip. 

This actually did make me LOL. I don’t care how they talk so long as they aren’t doing something or saying something that intentionally hurts others. The NBA is lucky to have guys like Edwards, Jokic, Doncic and others.  It’s a fun time especially if you are just a fan of the sport in general. 

[Mittens 8147]

4 hours ago, MrX said:

So Boston gets the Heat with no Jimmy, the Cavs without Mitchell, and the Pacers (potentially) without Haliburton?

Boston won the East by 14 games.  Largest gap in either division since the NBA/ABA merger.
3-0 vs Miami regular season
2-1 vs Cleveland regular season
3-2 vs Indiana regular season
The odds were well in their favor to come out of the East, regardless of who was playing.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18517]

4 hours ago, Mittens said:

Boston won the East by 14 games.  Largest gap in either division since the NBA/ABA merger.
3-0 vs Miami regular season
2-1 vs Cleveland regular season
3-2 vs Indiana regular season
The odds were well in their favor to come out of the East, regardless of who was playing.

Sure, but those are three lottery teams without Butler / Mitchell & Allen /  Halliburton. Literally, they would be among the 10 worst teams in the NBA. Better than Detroit, Washington, Portland and Charlotte, but even Atlanta and Chicago would have given them a better challenge.  Sac, GS, Houston, & Utah -- none of whom made the playoffs -- would have been more competitive.

It's the luckiest run, ever. And it's very disappointing from a fans perspective. The NBA playoffs are supposed to be basketball played at its highest and most competitive level. Who wants to watch this shit?

[Derka 5915]

 

from the thread:

 

[Mittens 8147]

9 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Sure, but those are three lottery teams without Butler / Mitchell & Allen /  Halliburton. Literally, they would be among the 10 worst teams in the NBA. Better than Detroit, Washington, Portland and Charlotte, but even Atlanta and Chicago would have given them a better challenge.  Sac, GS, Houston, & Utah -- none of whom made the playoffs -- would have been more competitive.

It's the luckiest run, ever. And it's very disappointing from a fans perspective. The NBA playoffs are supposed to be basketball played at its highest and most competitive level. Who wants to watch this shit?

I'm sure you were very upset for the fans when Tatum was playing with a broken wrist in the '22 playoffs or rolled his ankle in G7 of last year's ECF.  We can pull your posts where you lamented the lessened fan experience when both teams weren't at full strength, yes?  Not that Boston deserved the loss when their All-NBA forward couldn't walk?  

Boston beat those teams at full strength during the regular season, so it's not like they're getting over on a better team.  Would it have been more entertaining if all the series were going 7?  Sure.  You're whining about something that no one has any control over.  Life isn't fair - if it was, we'd all have giant crabs in our bathrooms.

[Aqua Buddha 14488]

Good grief.  He'll have made $255M in career earnings by the time he's done: