Houston Astros off-season thread

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[Mo Horn 8831]

2 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Also, there is no reason Loperfido should start the season in AAA. He's better than Singleton and provides the Astros with positional flexibility.

Don't know how you leave him off the big club

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Lol wtf


Astros manager Joe Espada said Yordan Alvarez left the game because of an allergic reaction in his left eye. His foot is fine.

[tx 3 putt 76870]

Blanco is the #5 starter / long relief …

 

 

[tx 3 putt 76870]

3 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Also, there is no reason Loperfido should start the season in AAA. He's better than Singleton and provides the Astros with positional flexibility.

Joey Loperfido went 3-for-3 with 2 2B, RBI, SB in today’s Spring Training game. He’s hitting .423 with 5 2B, 5 RBI in 26 at bats this spring. #Astros

[dr99 559]

27 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Joey Loperfido went 3-for-3 with 2 2B, RBI, SB in today’s Spring Training game. He’s hitting .423 with 5 2B, 5 RBI in 26 at bats this spring. #Astros

[UTexasFight 9429]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Radio talk - we lose two picks for hader, lose two more if you sign snell. Snell wanted a big contract, at this point will he want an opt out after a year ? 

no one has put eyes on him this spring training ?

We lose more the following year too because of where we are in the luxury tax…

when this window closes, it’s going to be slammed shut for a while…unless crane is just going to be old man Steinbrenner and continue to field the best team money can buy in to perpetuity 

[Wulaw Horn 19068]

28 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

We lose more the following year too because of where we are in the luxury tax…

when this window closes, it’s going to be slammed shut for a while…unless crane is just going to be old man Steinbrenner and continue to field the best team money can buy in to perpetuity 

Depends on when the window closes. If they wanted to sell off after 2025 they could get a shitload of prospects, be bad for a year, mediocre for a year and then ready to get after it. 
That would mean trading Yordan, Diaz, Javier, Brown, Snell, Hader, Pena, France, Chas and Meyers (if he doesn’t suck) and probably chipping in some money along the way.  But that’s like 12 top 100 prospects and some other interesting dudes too if it all plays out well for us. 

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[HtownHorn 14668]

We will also be getting draft picks returned when Bregman and Tucker leave.

[tx 3 putt 76870]

56 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

We lose more the following year too because of where we are in the luxury tax…

when this window closes, it’s going to be slammed shut for a while…unless crane is just going to be old man Steinbrenner and continue to field the best team money can buy in to perpetuity 

offer dubin a longer deal 

[UTPhil2006 3805]

Is it too early to do an opening day roll call? I know @Jshep34 is gonna be there.. do we start at Biggios again? @Mez2

[Jshep34 2308]

We can start at biggios

[UTPhil2006 3805]

11 minutes ago, Jshep34 said:

We can start at biggios

Gonna buy a case of balls so everyone can have a lil Shep autograph. 

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Anyone here want to join the Surly Roto league? If so go to the Detroit Tigers thread. We have like 3 openings.

[Jshep34 2308]

Set up a table at biggios ley him make some $$

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[henrygandorf 29189]

pitchers falling like quarterbacks. 

[tx 3 putt 76870]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

pitchers falling like quarterbacks. 

 

[Mitch Hedberg 2090]

 

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[Hank Chinaski 6314]

So, one more year with Bregman, one or two more with JV, two more with Tucker…isn’t this (Snell/1 or 2 year deal) exactly the type of deal the Astros should be pursuing?

Edited March 17 by Hank Chinaski

[Dutchrudder 11134]

17 minutes ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

 

That would be incredible. Low risk, high reward, and building up to the inevitable Astros/Dodgers World Series rematch! 

[Guadaloopy 10960]

2 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

So, one more year with Bregman, one or two more with JV, two more with Tucker…isn’t this (Snell/1 or 2 year deal) exactly the type of deal the Astros should be pursuing?

Yeah, seems like a no brainer.  The only thing I don’t like is the post ‘24 option.  

[Hank Chinaski 6314]

1 minute ago, Guadaloopy said:

Yeah, seems like a no brainer.  The only thing I don’t like is the post ‘24 option.  

Right? And $33m AAV doesn’t seem out of line. Not sure what I’m missing. 

[TonyTexas 10507]

That type of contract is right up Crane’s alley except for the player option. He doesn’t like those. 

Edited March 17 by TonyTexas

[hornmpa96 2618]

What’s the luxury tax cost of that deal in 2024?

[runthebone 7967]

Maybe Boras is just using the Astros to negotiate with the Yankees?

[Wulaw Horn 19068]

1 hour ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Right? And $33m AAV doesn’t seem out of line. Not sure what I’m missing. 

It’s not 33 it’s 66 you are on the hook for if he blows out his arm and opts in. 

9 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Maybe Boras is just using the Astros to negotiate with the Yankees?

And bingo was his name-O. 

[Hank Chinaski 6314]

Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

It’s not 33 it’s 66 you are on the hook for if he blows out his arm and opts in. 

It’s still 33 AAV regardless of his arm health.

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21 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Maybe Boras is just using the Astros to negotiate with the Yankees?

[Wulaw Horn 19068]

1 hour ago, Hank Chinaski said:

It’s still 33 AAV regardless of his arm health.

Missed the AAV part of that. While that’s true that’s not how Jimbo is conceptualizing the number. 
I wonder if he’d be willing to do a 100 IP to guarantee year 2 along with his option.  JV did that. 

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Nice caps

 

[HtownHorn 14668]

58 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Missed the AAV part of that. While that’s true that’s not how Jimbo is conceptualizing the number. 
I wonder if he’d be willing to do a 100 IP to guarantee year 2 along with his option.  JV did that. 

Needs to be higher than that. I'd go 130. He's only hit that number twice in his career and won the CYA both times.

[TonyTexas 10507]

Dubon is having a helluva spring. 

[UTexasFight 9429]

34 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Dubon is having a helluva spring. 

Framber is, uh, not 

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

We need snell so I’ll have the sadzz if he doesn’t sign. 

[TonyTexas 10507]

 

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

 

That’s what I get for getting my hopes up. Maybe they’ll up it if Urquidy is out. 

[YChang 3443]

What a tease

[tx 3 putt 76870]

The #Astros released the following Minor Leaguers today:

RHP Jimmy Endersby
RHP Austin Hansen
RHP Peyton Plumlee
RHP Jonathan Sprinkle
RHP Austin Temple
RHP Derek West
C Sandro Gaston
C Freddy Guilamo
C Carlos Hurtado
3B Justin Williams
SS Ricardo Balogh
SS Tim Borden II

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[APMP 688]

 

It's insane that a reigning (and two time!), healthy, and 31 year old Cy Young winner still isn't signed 10 days before opening day. I think a significant reason for it is the impact of analytics, which has Snell rarely pitch deep into the 3rd time through the lineup and also has teams prize the draft picks they would lose by signing a free agent like him. If I'm right, it's just the latest piece of evidence that MLBPA screwed up on the current collective bargaining agreement.

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2 minutes ago, APMP said:

It's insane that a reigning (and two time!), healthy, and 31 year old Cy Young winner still isn't signed 10 days before opening day. I think a significant reason for it is the impact of analytics, which has Snell rarely pitch deep into the 3rd time through the lineup and also has teams prize the draft picks they would lose by signing a free agent like him. If I'm right, it's just the latest piece of evidence that MLBPA screwed up on the current collective bargaining agreement.

Dead arm ?

[APMP 688]

Dead arm ?

Could be, though reports a few days ago were that Astros and Giants liked what they saw from Snell in a 4 inning simulated game just week.

[Snake Diggity 4619]

8 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

The #Astros released the following Minor Leaguers today:

RHP Jimmy Endersby
RHP Austin Hansen
RHP Peyton Plumlee
RHP Jonathan Sprinkle
RHP Austin Temple
RHP Derek West
C Sandro Gaston
C Freddy Guilamo
C Carlos Hurtado
3B Justin Williams
SS Ricardo Balogh
SS Tim Borden II

A few more guys not on that list were also released.  No major surprises although Dauri Lorenzo was an intl top 30 prospect when he signed so I figured he’d get another year of development.  Gaston, Balogh, and Borden all showed potential at one point but it’s not shocking to see them cut loose.  I am hoping to see some aggressive assignments in 2 weeks, especially in Fayetteville, as there’s a handful of teenage position players who have some of the highest ceilings in the Astros system (Jaworsky, Hernandez, Luciano, Gomez, Huezo, Ochoa).

[HtownHorn 14668]

1 hour ago, APMP said:

It's insane that a reigning (and two time!), healthy, and 31 year old Cy Young winner still isn't signed 10 days before opening day. I think a significant reason for it is the impact of analytics, which has Snell rarely pitch deep into the 3rd time through the lineup and also has teams prize the draft picks they would lose by signing a free agent like him. If I'm right, it's just the latest piece of evidence that MLBPA screwed up on the current collective bargaining agreement.

Snell's problem is he has exceeded 130 IP twice in his career. He won the CY both times, but otherwise he's not worth a high AAV over a long term contact investement from the rest of his career. He wants to get paid like a #1, but hasn't shown he's capable of pitching to that standard consistently. It's likely he doesn't reach that innings level next season because it took him 6 years in between the 1st and 2nd time. No front office is paying $200M for a pitcher that will give you one quality saeson in his deal.

Edited March 18 by HtownHorn

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This seems familiar lol 

 

[kevwun 15764]

Yeah, they'll wait a few months to see if it gets better and then he will have TJ surgery late in the season and will end up missing 2 whole seasons.

[henrygandorf 29189]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

to be fair, i would assume he still "wants $200m+"