Houston Astros off-season thread

[Scraps 13799]

Rays won't be in the top 5.  They were a .500 team long before(pretty much starting in June) Wander stopped playing.  They just benefited from a blistering start. 

Jays will be when they announce Ohtani today, Yankees should be there but they also like to shit down their legs.  I could see them having 3 of the top 8 

[Wulaw Horn 19590]

Which one of you slapdicks posted this review on breathing orange fire?

These guys’ obsession with Dusty makes the show unlistenable.

These guys applauding themselves for making Dusty not like his job was kind of it for me. I get that Dusty made questionable decisions but dancing on someone’s grave after they decide to leave feels in bad taste.

 

This will be my favorite review ever.  

[Js1 87176]

 

[kevwun 16437]

That's probably going to work out for the best for them because the chances of him pitching like last year going forward aren't very high.

[Pimphand 6368]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Which one of you slapdicks posted this review on breathing orange fire?

These guys’ obsession with Dusty makes the show unlistenable.

These guys applauding themselves for making Dusty not like his job was kind of it for me. I get that Dusty made questionable decisions but dancing on someone’s grave after they decide to leave feels in bad taste.

 

This will be my favorite review ever.  

Retired Dusty Baker is the best Dusty Baker.

[Dutchrudder 11243]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Which one of you slapdicks posted this review on breathing orange fire?

These guys’ obsession with Dusty makes the show unlistenable.

These guys applauding themselves for making Dusty not like his job was kind of it for me. I get that Dusty made questionable decisions but dancing on someone’s grave after they decide to leave feels in bad taste.

 

This will be my favorite review ever.  

Where do you leave reviews for podcasts? Is there a Yelp section for that?

[Wulaw Horn 19590]

1 minute ago, Dutchrudder said:

Where do you leave reviews for podcasts? Is there a Yelp section for that?

No idea. Need to figure it out. I think directly on iTunes or Spotify probably. 

[runthebone 8374]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Which one of you slapdicks posted this review on breathing orange fire?

These guys’ obsession with Dusty makes the show unlistenable.

These guys applauding themselves for making Dusty not like his job was kind of it for me. I get that Dusty made questionable decisions but dancing on someone’s grave after they decide to leave feels in bad taste.

 

This will be my favorite review ever.  

Don't know why you're asking us, that person is obviously not a shaggy poster.

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by runthebone

[UTexasFight 9814]

7 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Which one of you slapdicks posted this review on breathing orange fire?

These guys’ obsession with Dusty makes the show unlistenable.

These guys applauding themselves for making Dusty not like his job was kind of it for me. I get that Dusty made questionable decisions but dancing on someone’s grave after they decide to leave feels in bad taste.

 

This will be my favorite review ever.  

That’s awesome

reads like one of those negative reviews of national parks:

”felt very isolated.”

Don’t blast someone for the truth.

 

[Wulaw Horn 19590]

I’m so glad I won’t have to talk about him anymore except for making snide remarks and the occasional off handed remembrance of worse times. 

[Pimphand 6368]

Ohtani to the Doyers is amazeballs. Just need these dipshits to keep Dave Roberts around long enough (2-3 years) to blow his peak.

[HtownHorn 15229]

They will never win a WS with that contract. There is no way you can build a competitive team when 30% of your cap is tied up in 1 person.

[Murfdogg21 4563]

9 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

They will never win a WS with that contract. There is no way you can build a competitive team when 30% of your cap is tied up in 1 person.

…with one good elbow. 

[LCHorn 2751]

Wow, that contract is nuts!  I’m actually kind of impressed that the Dodgers are willing to risk that much. 

[Mez2 4048]

Flight and hotel booked for CDMX

Puro pinche astros!

[Murfdogg21 4563]

1 minute ago, Mez2 said:

Flight and hotel booked for CDMX

Puro pinche astros!

BYOB (basura can)

[Wulaw Horn 19590]

4 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Wow, that contract is nuts!  I’m actually kind of impressed that the Dodgers are willing to risk that much. 

It’s not that big a deal. More than half the contract is deferred until after he’s through playing allegedly. You know how to do the present value of money calculation as well as I do. A couple of morons that are Yankee fans on the hot stove thread don’t, of course, one of which is Helo, but yeah/ once that tweet came out it made a lot more sense. 
The dodgers are rich and worth a ton of money and have a large Asian population obviously in their town. This isn’t a risky deal for them imo. 

[HtownHorn 15229]

20 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

It’s not that big a deal. More than half the contract is deferred until after he’s through playing allegedly. You know how to do the present value of money calculation as well as I do. A couple of morons that are Yankee fans on the hot stove thread don’t, of course, one of which is Helo, but yeah/ once that tweet came out it made a lot more sense. 
The dodgers are rich and worth a ton of money and have a large Asian population obviously in their town. This isn’t a risky deal for them imo. 

So, it's more like 40-700.

[Wulaw Horn 19590]

24 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

So, it's more like 40-700.

Yep. Don’t know how much is deferred and how much is present value but I’d guess it would be equivalent to 10/450 or 500. I had 12/600 before the injury so probably pretty similar. Will run present day value calculations when it comes out official on the schedule. 

Edited December 9, 2023 by Wulaw Horn

[runthebone 8374]

I bet we were a close second

[LCHorn 2751]

Just as a lark I went through the Dodgers roster, current payroll, and then Fangraphs prospect list.  A few observations:

1.  For as touted as their minor league system is by prospect writers, they don't appear to be developing replacements for departing MLB players.  Most of their prospects are also older.

2.  Speaking of old, what's left of their lineup is pretty ancient. 

3.  Signing Ohtani is unlikely to be their last move and then need several starters.  Isn't that what we just heard about the Yankees?

[Rockethorn1978 6205]

How much over the cap does this put the dodgers? They have to be paying a massive tax? I never get how we don’t have money yet these other teams are just signing everyone that’s available 

[TonyTexas 10752]

3 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

How much over the cap does this put the dodgers? They have to be paying a massive tax? I never get how we don’t have money yet these other teams are just signing everyone that’s available 

They were only at $130M pre-Ohtani. His hit will depend on the contract structure but they are in pretty good shape cap-wise

[David Dennison 19529]

Y'all be talkin' 'bout cap and the Dodgers.

LOL

[Dutchrudder 11243]

5 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

They were only at $130M pre-Ohtani. His hit will depend on the contract structure but they are in pretty good shape cap-wise

They still have some holes to fill, and apparently plan to re-sign Kershaw who wants 25m a year. I think Ohtanis cap hit will be around 60m a year with the deferral. Sherzer had half his 7 year 210m deal with the Nats deferred, and it only lowered his cap hit by 13% a year. The deferral thing is being overstated, it's not a 1 to 1 deal, the 'savings' is based on NPV dollars and projected inflation, and it's a small portion of the total amount owed each year.  

[tx 3 putt 78675]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Y'all be talkin' 'bout cap and the Dodgers.

LOL

astros fans stressing signing a mid talent LF and the dodgers dropping $1bil on two players 

[runthebone 8374]

Well, I'm sure this will help the Dodgers make it all the way to the NLCS this year.  Fuck Joe Kelly

[LCHorn 2751]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

They were only at $130M pre-Ohtani. His hit will depend on the contract structure but they are in pretty good shape cap-wise

Their roster actually looks a lot like ours might after 2025 and with only Altuve and Yordan left.  Stars and scrubs.  

[WBT 20970]

what is this cap y'all speak of?

cohen out front should have told you

Edited December 10, 2023 by WBT

[UTexasFight 9814]

[Snake Diggity 4714]

1 hour ago, UTexasFight said:

How you gonna be ripped up like that and only hit 10 HR this season wtf.

[BrazilHorn 6838]

2 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

He looks like the guy with the shrunken head in “Beetlejuice”

[YChang 3568]

Less preening and more film study and bp. 

[tx 3 putt 78675]

He needs more flexibility, not bulk 

his joints will be screaming by mid season

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by tx 3 putt

[runthebone 8374]

2 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

How you gonna be ripped up like that and only hit 10 HR this season wtf.

I'm sure Magnus Ver Magnussen's batspeed sucked also

[tx 3 putt 78675]

2 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

How you gonna be ripped up like that and only hit 10 HR this season wtf.

his last hr was in july ?

[UTexasFight 9814]

4 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

He looks like the guy with the shrunken head in “Beetlejuice”

Ha.

My exact reaction was he looks like one of those bodybuilders with a mini head.

 

If he had Adolis’ head, I’d be worried about needing a SS to cover for a 2nd half suspension

[Dutchrudder 11243]

Start the transformation into FrankenPena now, and in a couple of years he might turn into Barry Bonds!  

[Smax 3800]

42 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Start the transformation into FrankenPena now, and in a couple of years he might turn into Barry Bonds!  

 

 

Bonds was a great player before the hgh, Pena not so much

[tx 3 putt 78675]

53 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Start the transformation into FrankenPena now, and in a couple of years he might turn into Barry Bonds!  

maybe he gets a shot at 3rd ?

[UTPhil2006 3930]

50 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

maybe he gets a shot at 3rd ?

[tx 3 putt 78675]

 

looks like we have plenty of cap room !

[UTPhil2006 3930]

Time to buy a bunch of salsa and juice up them HEB contracts 

[NeverMarryAStripper 22287]

So in 10 years the Dodgers will be owned by their creditors 

[Pimphand 6368]

4 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

So in 10 years the Dodgers will be owned by their creditors 

I mean it's not quite Bobby Bonilla day but still

[TonyTexas 10752]

30 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

So in 10 years the Dodgers will be owned by their creditors 

So Ohtani will own the Dodgers. I hope he moves the team to Tokyo 

[Rockethorn1978 6205]

Will the money in 10 years go against the cap of those years for the dodgers? Seems like a ton to go against their cap space when he isn’t playing in 2034. 

[HtownHorn 15229]

1 hour ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Will the money in 10 years go against the cap of those years for the dodgers? Seems like a ton to go against their cap space when he isn’t playing in 2034. 

If he is retired, nope.

[kevwun 16437]

The Dodgers make a fuck ton off their tv deal.  They can afford it.  Whether a guy who has had 2 tj surgeries already is worth that much is another story.

[wood 11763]

5 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

So Ohtani will own the Dodgers. I hope he moves the team to Tokyo 

Nah, that's not far enough away.