2023 - 2024 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread - I'm watching, just like you guys

[gsoda3 3262]

55 minutes ago, fellside said:

Dallas will just switch everything.

 

48 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yes they will. I mean I guess the idea has merit, but we are an excellent defensive team, and that includes Luka. Yes, Luka is a plus defender. If he is worn out, it’d be a change from the past series where they tried the same shit and failed. Also if he’s worn out, Kyrie can take over.

we can't switch too much off-ball before we're basically playing a zone defense.  if they catch us switching on backside screens while they're running a PnR to get into the lane on the other part of the floor we're meat.  either the lane's going to be wide open or there's a corner 3 open.

[Rex Kramer 1338]

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

lively yeah he's alright on the perimeter but gafford is not good at all out there.  we're going to find out really quickly, i mean in the first 3 possessions quickly, what happens when gafford tries to guard kp or tatum on the line and the rotating starts happening.  please be not awful.  i'm ok with a single digit negative plus minus, just don't be awful.  

Yeah he was awful against Holmgren. Come on man. Are our bigs (both) susceptible to a hot shooting KP?  Yes. So what?

[gsoda3 3262]

41 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yeah he was awful against Holmgren. Come on man. Are our bigs (both) susceptible to a hot shooting KP?  Yes. So what?

 

Wait are you saying Gaff did well against OKC? Even with Chet being in constant foul trouble and shooting a combined 4/22 from 3 point land over the entire series (18%!) Gafford was AWFUL as the primary defender against Chet and JWill.  They PnRed him to death. 

 

Gafford against OKC guarding Chet and JWill

-2

-8

-8

-5

-10

-25

 

LIvely against OKC guarding Chet and JWill

-13

18

16

2

22

26

[RexWilson 1348]

I am guessing Maxi will be getting some Gafford minutes. 
 

 

[Vic Mackey 47071]

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[ITHorn 801]

I'm more interested to see how they attack Dallas in the paint. Boston is going to hit a good amount of threes but if the Derick Whites of the world are getting to the rim we'll be cooked. Call me a skeptic but I just don't see old man AH or KP coming off a serious calf injury banging down low with much success. 

Edited June 5 by ITHorn

[Rex Kramer 1338]

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

 

Wait are you saying Gaff did well against OKC? Even with Chet being in constant foul trouble and shooting a combined 4/22 from 3 point land over the entire series (18%!) Gafford was AWFUL as the primary defender against Chet and JWill.  They PnRed him to death. 

 

Gafford against OKC guarding Chet and JWill

-2

-8

-8

-5

-10

-25

 

LIvely against OKC guarding Chet and JWill

-13

18

16

2

22

26

You’re anti-Gafford. I do agree Lively was more effective and better in the series, and a rangier defender getting to the perimeter, and Gafford just wasn’t right against OKC. But Towns posed the same threat and Gafford played GREAT that whole series averaging 11, 6 and 3 (blocks).

1 hour ago, RexWilson said:

I am guessing Maxi will be getting some Gafford minutes. 
 

 

Also, this. KP by himself, even guarded by Gafford, doesn’t concern me at all. If KP gets hot, it happens.  

[Rex Kramer 1338]

23 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

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What a bunch of fucking losers that we all already know they are. You’re the most storied pro basketball city ever, and you’re obsessed with a guy that didn’t work out.  It is nuts that Boston sports fans are actually worse than Philly fans, and make NYC fans utterly tame. 

[Rex Kramer 1338]

11 minutes ago, ITHorn said:

I'm more interested to see how they attack Dallas in the paint. Boston is going to hit a good amount of threes but if the Derick Whites of the world are getting to the rim we'll be cooked. Call me a skeptic but I just don't see old man AH or KP coming off a serious calf injury banging down low with much success. 

Getting to the rim like Shai and Ant did?  We are fine. We have no glaring mismatches offensively or defensively. Boston has a very good starting lineup and we will be tested. They are long, athletic and can shoot.  If they beat us, it won’t be because they exploited some obvious hole. 

Kidd is coaching a hell of a playoffs run. He has really come into his own. 

[ITHorn 801]

23 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Getting to the rim like Shai and Ant did?  We are fine. We have no glaring mismatches offensively or defensively. Boston has a very good starting lineup and we will be tested. They are long, athletic and can shoot.  If they beat us, it won’t be because they exploited some obvious hole. 

Kidd is coaching a hell of a playoffs run. He has really come into his own. 

I'm not calling it a glaring weakness but if you look the losses we've had in the playoffs outside of the total collapse against OKC they have all involved getting outscored in the paint. Just an observation, nothing more...

[Rex Kramer 1338]

1 minute ago, ITHorn said:

I'm not calling it a glaring weakness but if you look the losses we've had in the playoffs outside of the total collapse against OKC they have all involved getting outscored in the paint. Just an observation, nothing more...

I don’t presently see it with lob city and Luka and Kyrie taking it to the hole. 

[Gucci_Suit 2644]

Yeah I think it’s pretty even skill/ scheme/ size/ etc. Where I think we have an advantage is that we have 2 bad motherfuckers and they have zero. 

KP getting hot scares someone? He’ll get in his own head and probably miss more games. Tatum knows Luka is that motherfucker. Kyrie has a built in edge. Not sure where they are getting their Jordan/Kobe from, but I know we have 2 dudes that can deliver it. 

[Catdaddyhorn 3446]

5 hours ago, RexWilson said:

I am guessing Maxi will be getting some Gafford minutes. 
 

 

Perk gets a bad rep for supposedly bad mouthing Luka,  but I've seen Perk big up Luka just as often as I've seen him criticizing Luka.

 

[gsoda3 3262]

Also, this. KP by himself, even guarded by Gafford, doesn’t concern me at all. If KP gets hot, it happens.  

I'm not anti gafford one but, Im a huge fan. I just see he can't defend the perimeter. The issue is more than KP getting hot and hitting a bunch of 3s. Our defense is predicated on the perimeter guys funneling their players to the paint. That's where gafford and lively reside. Go back to any game the last two months and watch us get set up on defense- gaff And lively float there until their man comes to them. But they're not going to be there if they're guarding the three-point line which we have to against Boston.

[LurkingHorn 1066]

4 hours ago, ITHorn said:

I'm not calling it a glaring weakness but if you look the losses we've had in the playoffs outside of the total collapse against OKC they have all involved getting outscored in the paint. Just an observation, nothing more...

We very well might lose the series to Boston, but it certainly isn't going to be because they beat us in the paint. I think the Mavs are going to run with what got them here--meaning they are going to wall off the paint and make Boston win with 3s. I predict we are going to get absolutely blown out in the games we lose and squeak by games we win. Hopefully that's enough to win 4. 

[Rex Kramer 1338]

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

5 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Also, this. KP by himself, even guarded by Gafford, doesn’t concern me at all. If KP gets hot, it happens.  

I'm not anti gafford one but, Im a huge fan. I just see he can't defend the perimeter. The issue is more than KP getting hot and hitting a bunch of 3s. Our defense is predicated on the perimeter guys funneling their players to the paint. That's where gafford and lively reside. Go back to any game the last two months and watch us get set up on defense- gaff And lively float there until their man comes to them. But they're not going to be there if they're guarding the three-point line which we have to against Boston.

It wasn’t really a big deal against OKC and it wasn’t at all against Minn. I’m just not concerned about that. 

[RexWilson 1348]

I was surprised to see Tatum is only 29% 3p in the playoffs. He is their lowest % shooter out of the guys who get meaningful minutes. (I watched Boston about 5 minutes out of the entire playoffs)

[LurkingHorn 1066]

28 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

I was surprised to see Tatum is only 29% 3p in the playoffs. He is their lowest % shooter out of the guys who get meaningful minutes. (I watched Boston about 5 minutes out of the entire playoffs)

I haven't watched much of them either but he's a career 35% 3-point shooter in the playoffs. I would bet that corrects itself in this series some. Unless other teams have found some way to slow him down the Mavs can copy. 

[gsoda3 3262]

It wasn’t really a big deal against OKC and it wasn’t at all against Minn. I’m just not concerned about that. 

It wasn't an issue because we could afford to leave someone unguarded on the perimeter - namely giddy. Against Boston we can't leave anyone alone. I hope you're right though.

[Rex Kramer 1338]

1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

It wasn’t really a big deal against OKC and it wasn’t at all against Minn. I’m just not concerned about that. 

It wasn't an issue because we could afford to leave someone unguarded on the perimeter - namely giddy. Against Boston we can't leave anyone alone. I hope you're right though.

Hope I am too. All teams get cold. Most for large stretches of every game. I fully expect we will lose 1-2 games solely due to hot shooting.  That’s fine.

Kidd, Luka and Ky are master orchestrators of runs.  Knowing when to stay cool when the other team is hot, knowing how to conserve energy, and knowing when to strike. And they throw fucking daggers. 

[Vic Mackey 47071]

[Bigpoppapump 531]

If someone makes a bingo card of those, I'm in!

['stache 21818]

Not feeling confident. Last time I typed that I think was before Game 5 v. OKC. Hoping for the same result.

[speed817 19300]

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

Good luck today friends, I’m rooting for Dallas.

Not sure if that’s good for you guys or not

[Vic Mackey 47071]

56 minutes ago, speed817 said:

Drake is so fucking corny

[gsoda3 3262]

i want to know what does kendrick lamar think?

[Vic Mackey 47071]

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[Vic Mackey 47071]

Luka played his first ever game at age 16 against Boston in an exhibition against Boston. Now playing them in the Finals

['stache 21818]

2 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Drake is so fucking corny

 

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

i want to know what does kendrick lamar think?

[ITHorn 801]

Mavs by 90.

[Vic Mackey 47071]

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[MrX 734]

No dog in the fight but definitely rooting for Dallas. Boston is rightly favored but if Luka is the best player on the floor for 5 out of 7 games then Dallas has a great shot. 

[RexWilson 1348]

I put on my 2011 Championship shirt for good luck purposes. 
 

Without looking it up, who can name the 15 players listed on the 2011 championship roster?

Edited June 6 by RexWilson

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

I put on my 2011 Championship shirt for good luck purposes. 
 
Without looking it up, who can name the 15 players listed on the 2011 championship roster?

I’ll try

Dirk,Brian cardinal, Jason Terry, Antawn Jamison, Shawn Marion, JJ barrea, Shawn Bradley, Jason Kidd, Adrian griffin, Raef Lafrentz, Keith van horn,
Steve Alford, detlef schrempf

[Rex Kramer 1338]

9 hours ago, 'stache said:

Not feeling confident. Last time I typed that I think was before Game 5 v. OKC. Hoping for the same result.

Pussy. Mavs in 6. 

3 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

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Top row is easy money. 

[Rex Kramer 1338]

7-game series are so great. No matter who wins tonight, and by how much, I strongly suspect the other team will win Game 2. I don’t know how this series will unfold but strongly feel it’s going back to Dallas 1-1

[RexWilson 1348]

KP coming off the bench tonight. 

[ITHorn 801]

Just now, RexWilson said:

KP coming off the bench tonight. 

Probably smart. Even with this much rest can’t imagine him going more than 20-25 tonight. 

[Sgt Hulk 13765]

RIP bill.   But fuck Boston 

[Gucci_Suit 2644]

I’m watching, just like you guys. 

[RexWilson 1348]

Can’t give them that many chances every possession 

[Quagmire 2147]

All they do is shoot 3s

[Firemans4Horn 18082]

Good start on offense

[AbeFroman 2178]

Fuck Will Smith

[Firemans4Horn 18082]

Shit. Boston nailing all their open 3’s. 

[Quagmire 2147]

Nice only one team gets fouls

[AbeFroman 2178]

Luka has to take those short floaters in the lane when it's there.  Can't get shy on those like game 4 against Minny.

[Firemans4Horn 18082]

Doncic has to protect the ball. Two sloppy turnover early. 

[RexWilson 1348]

Not getting in an offensive flow.