2023 - 2024 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread - I'm watching, just like you guys

[LurkingHorn 1093]

Luka and Kyrie are 10-40 from the field. What in the actual fuck. 

[Firemans4Horn 18528]

We have two star players. Both of them sucked ass tonight. SGA did not suck ass. 
 

luka has the same amount of turnovers as the entire OKC team. 

[dcar00 14948]

they needed this game...SGA is gonna skullfuck them.  we have no one that can guard him.

[Firemans4Horn 18528]

1 minute ago, LurkingHorn said:

Luka and Kyrie are 10-40 from the field. What in the actual fuck. 

10-30. 

[Tommy Shelby 189]

Losing this game is def going to swing the series. 

[dcar00 14948]

this game shows exactly why we were the 5 seed.  10-19 FT vs 19-20.  TO's everywhere.  ice cold Luka and Kyrie didn't show.  happens way to much to expect to win a championship.

[bigcigar 1224]

Of fucking course. Horrendous free throw shooting

[Firemans4Horn 18528]

[Vic Mackey 47951]

Luka fucking sucks at free throws as usual. Never a doubt he was missing one of those. 

[RexWilson 1502]

52% as a team

[Tommy Shelby 189]

How do you miss this many FTs? Luka reminds me too much of Harden with the Rockets with the unclutchness. 

[Tommy Shelby 189]

Is Holger Geschwindner available?

[Firemans4Horn 18528]

1 minute ago, Tommy Shelby said:

How do you miss this many FTs? Luka reminds me too much of Harden with the Rockets with the unclutchness. 

Harden shot like 90% at the line for the Rockets

The truck stop freak can make free throws. 

[Tommy Shelby 189]

1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Harden shot like 90% at the line for the Rockets

The truck stop freak can make free throws. 

Love that nickname hahah

[Firemans4Horn 18528]

The Mavs go as Luka goes. He was shitty tonight. 

[dcar00 14948]

Just now, Tommy Shelby said:

Is Holger Geschwindner available?

the fact Luka can only shoot about 77-78 from the line should embarrass him and it is embarrassing for an NBA team to lose a series because they can't make FT's.

[LurkingHorn 1093]

9 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

10-30. 

Math is hard 

[Vic Mackey 47951]

3 minutes ago, Tommy Shelby said:

How do you miss this many FTs? Luka reminds me too much of Harden with the Rockets with the unclutchness. 

He's no Dirk that's for sure in that department. Especially when it matters most.

[Firemans4Horn 18528]

PJ Washington is shooting 52% from the line in the playoffs this year. 

[RexWilson 1502]

Horrible game management 

[dcar00 14948]

1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

He's no Dirk that's for sure in that department. Especially when it matters most.

at this point he's a regular season star.  when people actually start to play D and it gets tough he wilts.  OKC's star just took his lunch money.

[Surly Bevo 25729]

4Q and FT shooting were.......an abortion

[Firemans4Horn 18528]

Just now, RexWilson said:

Horrible game management 

Luka is the one doing 360 jump pass turnovers. If he didn’t play like The Professor from the And 1 mixtape tour the Mavs probably win tonight. 

[crum 541]

horrendous by luka tonight.. missed FT, terrible shot selection, ridiculous turnovers

[dcar00 14948]

2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

He's no Dirk that's for sure in that department. Especially when it matters most.

his FT shooting mechanics leave much to be desired.  

[LurkingHorn 1093]

Just now, dcar00 said:

at this point he's a regular season star.  when people actually start to play D and it gets tough he wilts.  OKC's star just took his lunch money.

This is a ridiculous take considering his playoff stats. He’s been terrible this series. No arguments there. 

[Vic Mackey 47951]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

at this point he's a regular season star.  when people actually start to play D and it gets tough he wilts.  OKC's star just took his lunch money.

Agreed. Sloppy as fuck too often and spends so much energy bitching when things doesn't go his way. 

[dcar00 14948]

1 minute ago, LurkingHorn said:

This is a ridiculous take considering his playoff stats. He’s been terrible this series. No arguments there. 

stats are for losers...

[Vic Mackey 47951]

1 minute ago, LurkingHorn said:

This is a ridiculous take considering his playoff stats. He’s been terrible this series. No arguments there. 

Stats on paper can be misleading. He might have some good numbers himself but how much he is influencing the game when it matters most? 

[LurkingHorn 1093]

 

[gsoda3 3362]

at this point he's a regular season star.  when people actually start to play D and it gets tough he wilts.  OKC's star just took his lunch money.

What. Luka is literally one of the best playoff producers of all time.

[LurkingHorn 1093]

Just now, Vic Mackey said:

Stats on paper can be misleading. He might have some good numbers himself but how much he is influencing the game when it matters most? 

Wtf. Do you remember any of the Clippers series or when he made Booker his bitch? What are we even talking about here. 

[gsoda3 3362]

Stats on paper can be misleading. He might have some good numbers himself but how much he is influencing the game when it matters most? 

Did you just not watch any mavericks playoffs games before this series?

[dcar00 14948]

Just now, Vic Mackey said:

Stats on paper can be misleading. He might have some good numbers himself but how much he is influencing the game when it matters most? 

yep.  to be fair, the reason they aren't really in the hunt for a championship with Luka is all on the smartest man in the room, Cubes...

1 minute ago, LurkingHorn said:

Wtf. Do you remember any of the Clippers series or when he made Booker his bitch? What are we even talking about here. 

yes one series a year.  you have to win 4 to win a championship.

[Firemans4Horn 18528]

Vid Mackey’s eaten one too many dinners off of a microwaved plastic plate. 

[LurkingHorn 1093]

If y’all want to ride with this then I can’t stop you. But damn…that’s certainly a poorly thought out take. 

Edited May 14 by LurkingHorn

[gsoda3 3362]

FTs, Luka turnovers, hardaway to close the game instead of DJjr is why we lost.

[dcar00 14948]

Just now, LurkingHorn said:

If y’all want to ride with this then I can’t stop you. But damn…that’s certainly a poorly throughout take. 

again stats are for losers.  This is a game where the great ones make it happen.  he looked like shit.  He's a great player and the main reason we are at least a top 5 type team.

OKC is better so it isn't a shock they are gonna take the series.   probably more disappointed in Kyrie not being able to get to the rim a lot more.

[ITHorn 918]

We got bad Green and Hardaway tonight and it showed. The same guys who kept things going when Luka/Kyrie needed rest or couldn’t on Saturday were dogshit tonight and it showed. If they turn in this performance on Saturday we probably would have lost that one too.

Edited May 14 by ITHorn

[threesheets 1689]

Can we re-name this the "Retarded Rec Dad" thread please?

Jesus Christ kill yourselves. Please. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26845]

15 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Honestly I just don’t care enough to think about it. I’ve seen some bad calls this series, but no group of calls in any one game has affected the outcome. I just don’t get worked up by officials and never really have except over the occasional Longhorn football game. I’ve seen one and possible two times Big 12 refs cost us games against OSU and once against Bama in ‘22. All at home. No officiating anywhere else has approached those screw jobs. 

You’re talking about bad officiating that changed the outcome. That happens in football. Screw jobs were the officials seem to intentionally put their thumb on the scale to manipulate the outcome seem rare in football. The only equivalent I can think of is “Grant Teaff’s going away present” in 1993.

I’m talking about the kind of screwjobs that are unique to the NBA, particularly when they can extend a playoff series. A few off the top of my head:

Game 5 ECF, Knicks-Bulls ‘93 (Charles Oakley)
Game 2 Finals, Celtics-Lakers ‘08 Celtics (Lakers shoot 10 free throws, Celtics shoot 38)
Game 6 WCF, Kings-Lakers 2002
Games 5-6 Finals, Heat-Mavs, 2006 (and Games 3-4 are pretty bad too)

 

Edited May 14 by Bozo_Casanova

[Bozo_Casanova 26845]

7 hours ago, LurkingHorn said:

Luka and Kyrie are 10-40 from the field. What in the actual fuck. 

Luka can’t shoot because he has dead legs and won’t be right until next year, Kyrie had an off night, and the supporting cast has to be spectacular to win when that happens. 

Edited May 14 by Bozo_Casanova

[Pdawg88 1157]

His legs are fine 

 

[LurkingHorn 1093]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Luka can’t shoot because he has dead legs and won’t be right until next year, Kyrie had an off night, and the supporting cast has to be spectacular to win when that happens. 

I get that he's not 100%, but the way he's moving on defense indicates his issue right now is way more mental than it is physical. Lu Dort is all up in his head. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26845]

47 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

I get that he's not 100%, but the way he's moving on defense indicates his issue right now is way more mental than it is physical

Completely disagree. Dead legs- that is, the kind of long term fatigue associated with poor recovery from minor injury and overwork impacts vertical and explosive movement first and most. This is why “active recovery” is a thing- you can have dead legs and still jog and jump rope all day.  Defense is mainly lateral and horizontal movement and reactive hand-eye coordination, all of which Luka has in spades. But he’s very sore and doesn’t have enough lift to get his shot off, which is why he’s forcing it through his shoulders and arms. Dead legs takes about a week of rest and recovery to get over at his age. 
He’ll be a little better for the rest of the series because he’s got a break between each game, but won’t be 100% until next season. That’s just how it is. 

['stache 22131]

So much bitching, all they had to do was make a few more fucking free throws. That's literally it, and they failed. We played better overall even with mid Luka and Kyrie. We lost because of missed free throws. We're gonna lose this series because Luka isn't close to 100% and is looking slower every game, and because we blew the chance to take a 3-1 lead because of fucking free throws. Maddening.

Edited May 14 by 'stache

[LurkingHorn 1093]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Completely disagree. Dead legs- that is, the kind of long term fatigue associated with poor recovery from minor injury and overwork impacts vertical and explosive movement first and most. This is why “active recovery” is a thing- you can have dead legs and still jog and jump rope all day.  Defense is mainly lateral and horizontal movement and reactive hand-eye coordination, all of which Luka has in spades. But he’s very sore and doesn’t have enough lift to get his shot off, which is why he’s forcing it through his shoulders and arms. Dead legs takes about a week of rest and recovery to get over at his age. 
He’ll be a little better for the rest of the series because he’s got a break between each game, but won’t be 100% until next season. That’s just how it is. 

Agree to disagree then. I'm not saying Luka should be dropping 40, but he should be able to do better than 6 of 20 from the field with 7 terrible turnovers. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26845]

1 hour ago, LurkingHorn said:

Agree to disagree then. I'm not saying Luka should be dropping 40, but he should be able to do better than 6 of 20 from the field with 7 terrible turnovers. 

No doubt - he needs to play a different game right now since he can’t do what he usually does, and either way it might be a good thing to throw a different look at OKC. 

[Rex Kramer 1535]

7 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

You’re talking about bad officiating that changed the outcome. That happens in football. Screw jobs were the officials seem to intentionally put their thumb on the scale to manipulate the outcome seem rare in football. The only equivalent I can think of is “Grant Teaff’s going away present” in 1993.

I’m talking about the kind of screwjobs that are unique to the NBA, particularly when they can extend a playoff series. A few off the top of my head:

Game 5 ECF, Knicks-Bulls ‘93 (Charles Oakley)
Game 2 Finals, Celtics-Lakers ‘08 Celtics (Lakers shoot 10 free throws, Celtics shoot 38)
Game 6 WCF, Kings-Lakers 2002
Games 5-6 Finals, Heat-Mavs, 2006 (and Games 3-4 are pretty bad too)

 

Alright?

4 hours ago, 'stache said:

So much bitching, all they had to do was make a few more fucking free throws. That's literally it, and they failed. We played better overall even with mid Luka and Kyrie. We lost because of missed free throws. We're gonna lose this series because Luka isn't close to 100% and is looking slower every game, and because we blew the chance to take a 3-1 lead because of fucking free throws. Maddening.

Yep. Only quibble I have with your post is that in no way was that mid Luka. That was the worst game I’ve ever seen him play. 

2 hours ago, LurkingHorn said:

Agree to disagree then. I'm not saying Luka should be dropping 40, but he should be able to do better than 6 of 20 from the field with 7 terrible turnovers. 

I agree with you. He needs to stop being such a whiny bitch and be a fucking man and play better. He’s showing us in real time he’s not the MVP. Not even close. 

[LurkingHorn 1093]

Time to take back control of this series tonight. Kyrie and Luka combine for 60 and we cruise.