2023 - 2024 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread - I'm watching, just like you guys

[threesheets 1672]

What a fucking idiot. 

Also, imagine getting called a motherfucker by a dude that's straight breaking it off in your team's ass. His friends are gonna have fun with that. 

[aggie08 21482]

2 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Lmao. Stick to football dork

 

Seeing Rachel Nichols on a show with Skip Bayless and Keyshawn Johnson is so fucking depressing. A clear reminder to not do a racism.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

Suppose someone can show Key this graphic




And the oh so great Boston Celtics were 3-5 vs the wests top 4.

[threesheets 1672]

Boston has run a gauntlet.

[Longboard Horn 40291]

On 5/30/2024 at 9:42 AM, MNLonghornFUKM said:

We’re gonna kick your ass. This’ll be 3-2 after tonight

This aged like milk 

[Vic Mackey 47007]

[gsoda3 3245]

C's what?

[JohnnyRage 1617]

Cunts

[Pato del Muerto 52485]

20 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

C's what?

It’s a contraction in this case

[Skipper 6127]

Ticket pricing is pretty insane.  I went to games 4 and 5 in the 2011 finals and that wasn't cheap (in 2011 money) but just no way to justify $2K for a shitty lower.  Will be interested to see if this market holds.  I know of several half season or 20 game pack holders putting up game 3 to try to make their playoff spend back on 1 game which isn't a bad strategy if it works.  

[Henry Hill 3156]

21 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Ticket pricing is pretty insane.  I went to games 4 and 5 in the 2011 finals and that wasn't cheap (in 2011 money) but just no way to justify $2K for a shitty lower.  Will be interested to see if this market holds.  I know of several half season or 20 game pack holders putting up game 3 to try to make their playoff spend back on 1 game which isn't a bad strategy if it works.  

Any idea what face was for the end sections of the lower bowl? Prices are steep for even Cuban right now.

[Skipper 6127]

7 minutes ago, Henry Hill said:

Any idea what face was for the end sections of the lower bowl? Prices are steep for even Cuban right now.

It's all relative depending on your status. I think season ticket holder "face" lowers behind the basket (relatively high up) were something like $380.  But Mavs (and Stars) have figured out they should capture "market value" instead of the brokers.  I'm pretty sure Mavs were selling non-allocated shitty uppers in the $800's which means they were selling lowers for well over $1K. Same thing for Stars.   My season tix (lower corner) were like $220 for game 5 Friday.  Stars were selling seats in my Section for I think around $400.  I know new ownership bumped season tix for Mavs significantly next year.  

[gsoda3 3245]

It’s a contraction in this case

Celtics is ready to battle Mavs?

[conVINCEd 21469]

8 hours ago, Skipper said:

Ticket pricing is pretty insane.  I went to games 4 and 5 in the 2011 finals and that wasn't cheap (in 2011 money) but just no way to justify $2K for a shitty lower.  Will be interested to see if this market holds.  I know of several half season or 20 game pack holders putting up game 3 to try to make their playoff spend back on 1 game which isn't a bad strategy if it works.  

It worked in 2011.

[Vic Mackey 47007]

18 hours ago, Skipper said:

Ticket pricing is pretty insane.  I went to games 4 and 5 in the 2011 finals and that wasn't cheap (in 2011 money) but just no way to justify $2K for a shitty lower.  Will be interested to see if this market holds.  I know of several half season or 20 game pack holders putting up game 3 to try to make their playoff spend back on 1 game which isn't a bad strategy if it works.  

I went to Games 1 and 5 of the 2011 WCF and games 4 and 5 of the 2011 Finals. For game 4 of the Finals, I paid like $500 apiece for lower level behind the basket. For game 5, I paid $300ish for 3rd level. I was content with those prices. Went all out that year for Mavs/Rangers attending the playoff games until the end of their run. Never will do it again, I will enjoy it on tv. I was much more loose with my money back then. Enjoyed the hell out of it and will always have those memories.

$2k apiece is fucking insane, even for great seats. Buddy of mine has season tickets and has tickets for game 4 this year. He put his on the market right now for like $2700. To see if he gets any bites. I can't imagine people are going to be jumping to pay those prices right now. These prices always drop as the games get closer. Our home games are over a week away. No reason to buy right now unless you are planning to come from out of town and need to get your tickets and hotel in order. I also assume people are waiting to see how the games in Boston go. If we go down 2-0, are people going to want to pay huge money? On the flip side, if we go up 2-0, I'd imagine you might be able to get a little more seeing as people want the chance to see them lift the trophy. 

 

 

Edited June 3 by Vic Mackey

[Vic Mackey 47007]

Lulz

 

[Skipper 6127]

12 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

If we go down 2-0, are people going to want to pay huge money? On the flip side, if we go up 2-0, I'd imagine you might be able to get a little more seeing as people want the chance to see them lift the trophy. 

 

100%.  DFW big game ticket market is such a winners town and massively impacted by momentum.  Best example of this was game 5 of the ALCS last year after we had lost 2 straight.  Still 2-2 and a huge game and I took a massive loss selling my extras.   In 2011, I recall having like $900 in cash for game 3 of the finals (after winning game 2 in Miami) and my wife and I couldn't sniff even terrible seats so watched at a bar.  Then, for game 4 (after losing game 3) we bought center court uppers in the 2nd row for like $350 each.  I had already gotten lucky with a great lower single from the presale for game 5 (which was before the Mavs figured out they should be charging "market" and not "face" value.

Where this ticket market lands is 100% dependent on how prior games go.  I think market dips a bit regardless for first 2 home games.  The only sure thing for an absolutely insane ticket market would be Mavs having a chance to clinch at home.

Edited June 3 by Skipper

[YGIFS 19449]

NSIAP.  Even though he's not on the playoff roster, will Longhorn Greg Brown get a ring when the Mavs win the title?  I don't know how it works in the NBA since he didn't play much this season.  

[gsoda3 3245]

17 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

NSIAP.  Even though he's not on the playoff roster, will Longhorn Greg Brown get a ring when the Mavs win the title?  I don't know how it works in the NBA since he didn't play much this season.  

yes

[Vic Mackey 47007]

 

[Vic Mackey 47007]

Tyson looking like he could go out and get a double double

 

[Post Oak 20205]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

 

I dislike Parsons much more than KP

Extending Nico

 

[RexWilson 1346]

Porzingis expected back for game 1.

[Vic Mackey 47007]

2 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

Porzingis expected back for game 1.

He was always going to be available for the Finals. Boston didn't need him at all with their joke of a path to the Finals so he was allowed to rest up completely. Boston will be very difficult to guard if they get good shooting KP. If he's way off, like he was here often, we can drop off him. They also have Horford to deal with.

Need to try and get him involved and moving in pick/rolls when he's on defense. He's terrible at defending those. Test to make sure that calf is really healthy.

[Trey3216 15343]

23 hours ago, Skipper said:

100%.  DFW big game ticket market is such a winners town and massively impacted by momentum.  Best example of this was game 5 of the ALCS last year after we had lost 2 straight.  Still 2-2 and a huge game and I took a massive loss selling my extras.   In 2011, I recall having like $900 in cash for game 3 of the finals (after winning game 2 in Miami) and my wife and I couldn't sniff even terrible seats so watched at a bar.  Then, for game 4 (after losing game 3) we bought center court uppers in the 2nd row for like $350 each.  I had already gotten lucky with a great lower single from the presale for game 5 (which was before the Mavs figured out they should be charging "market" and not "face" value.

Where this ticket market lands is 100% dependent on how prior games go.  I think market dips a bit regardless for first 2 home games.  The only sure thing for an absolutely insane ticket market would be Mavs having a chance to clinch at home.

In '11, I had a well-constructed plan to attend Game 3.  It worked like a champ.  I left my parents' house in Garland (I think it was Father's Day weekend that year) and drove downtown.  I parked at Hooters a few hours before the game and went in to eat and drink.  With 2 minutes left in the 1st Quarter, I bolted.  Literally sprinted from Hooters to AAC.  I had $400 cash on me, but put $320 of it in my pocket and $80 in my wallet.  Found a scalper outside and told him "I've got $80, it's better to get that than eat the entirety of a ticket."   

Got 1st row 2nd level behind one of the baskets for $80.  Watched us lose that game, but I was still there.  

Of course now, paper tickets are the rarity rather than the common.  Much easier to do stuff like that back then.   

[Ricky Butler 2683]

51 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

He was always going to be available for the Finals. Boston didn't need him at all with their joke of a path to the Finals so he was allowed to rest up completely. Boston will be very difficult to guard if they get good shooting KP. If he's way off, like he was here often, we can drop off him. They also have Horford to deal with.

Need to try and get him involved and moving in pick/rolls when he's on defense. He's terrible at defending those. Test to make sure that calf is really healthy.

I hope the outcome of the series hinges on Tingus Pingus. I know he’s reformed but I still think there is a weak minded player inside. When I saw the stat about Lively having more playoff experience, I was like “yeah, Porzingis is a concept, not a player that has ever actually helped a team win a series.” I mean his team swept their way to the finals WITHOUT him. 

[Zeus 6012]

WINNING IS HARD

[ITHorn 800]

3 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

He was always going to be available for the Finals. Boston didn't need him at all with their joke of a path to the Finals so he was allowed to rest up completely. Boston will be very difficult to guard if they get good shooting KP. If he's way off, like he was here often, we can drop off him. They also have Horford to deal with.

Need to try and get him involved and moving in pick/rolls when he's on defense. He's terrible at defending those. Test to make sure that calf is really healthy.

Porzingis has a long history of being extremely rusty shooting coming off extended absences. I think anyone who is counting on him to make a meaningful contribution is probably wish casting at this point. It's not impossible, but a rusty KP has been proven time and time again to be a very average player. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26434]

Good news everyone!

 

[LurkingHorn 1066]

So how we feeling going into this thing? KP or not, the fact that they will have 5 shooters on the floor at all times gives me some pause. This isn't like OKC or MIN where you could just not cover a guy like Giddey or Kyle Anderson. I have a feeling there are going to be some real stinkers where Boston just blows us out due to a 3-point variance. 

I feel pretty confident we're going to win the paint and rebound battle if we can keep our bigs on the floor. Very interesting matchup. 

[Pato del Muerto 52485]

2 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

So how we feeling going into this thing? KP or not, the fact that they will have 5 shooters on the floor at all times gives me some pause. This isn't like OKC or MIN where you could just not cover a guy like Giddey or Kyle Anderson. I have a feeling there are going to be some real stinkers where Boston just blows us out due to a 3-point variance. 

I feel pretty confident we're going to win the paint and rebound battle if we can keep our bigs on the floor. Very interesting matchup. 

I don’t know, but I do think we are better than an Indiana team that played them very close for 3 games. 

[LurkingHorn 1066]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I don’t know, but I do think we are better than an Indiana team that played them very close for 3 games. 

I would point out that Indiana team absolutely pantsed us twice in the regular season. I know it's not the same now, but Indiana is a bad matchup for a lot of teams. 

[Vic Mackey 47007]

I don’t know, but I do think we are better than an Indiana team that played them very close for 3 games. 

I think that was Boston playing with their food. They knew Indiana was no match for them overall and they could coast and just turn it on at the end. It got dicey a few times but Boston exerted the minimal energy needed to win that series in 4. I think they will be locked and loaded for this series. They made the ECF 5 times in 7 years with Tatum. Lost in 2022 after having a 2-1 lead to GSW. They are hungry to win this as it's been their time close to a decade now.

[Vic Mackey 47007]

So how we feeling going into this thing? KP or not, the fact that they will have 5 shooters on the floor at all times gives me some pause. This isn't like OKC or MIN where you could just not cover a guy like Giddey or Kyle Anderson. I have a feeling there are going to be some real stinkers where Boston just blows us out due to a 3-point variance. 
I feel pretty confident we're going to win the paint and rebound battle if we can keep our bigs on the floor. Very interesting matchup. 

I have the same pause for what you mention. If KP gets on track, it's going to be even harder. They were the best team in basketball for a reason. They are super deep and have a plethora of shooters. Although the East being very weak played into their record.

But Miami in 2011 were favorites by a good margin it seemed. We dug down deep and won that.

[dcar00 14151]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Good news everyone!

 

every time I see Tony Brothers....i dream this in my head

[Vic Mackey 47007]

Lol

[Bozo_Casanova 26434]

When did Chandler Parsons turn into a Quebecois bro-country singer?

[gsoda3 3245]

When did Chandler Parsons turn into a Quebecois bro-country singer?

Very specific but you nailed it.


Everyone's talking about how we stop Boston from the 3 pt line and rightfully so, but how is Boston going to stop us from controlling everything inside the 3 pt line?

[TxTower 650]

Good news everyone!
 

Tony Brothers and Scott Foster?!?

Prepare thy Anus. The fix is in.

[CBT 1282]

But Miami in 2011 were favorites by a good margin it seemed. We dug down deep and won that.

2011 Mavs were +160ish dogs.

2024 Mavs are +188 on Fan Duel right now.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

Very specific but you nailed it.


Everyone's talking about how we stop Boston from the 3 pt line and rightfully so, but how is Boston going to stop us from controlling everything inside the 3 pt line?

That

Idk if they waste their best defender in holiday(I assume he’s their best?) on Luka or just concede Lukas gonna get his and try stopping Irving. Holidays kinda built like Dort.

So maybe: white/brown on Irving, holiday/brown on Luka, white/brown on DJJ, Tatum on PJ and Zinger on Gafford?

Stopping lobs to lively and gafford was incredibly difficult for Rudy gobert, how’s horford or zinger going to do it?

Dallas has 50 more lobs in the playoffs than the next closest team…that’s huge

[gsoda3 3245]

9 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

That

Idk if they waste their best defender in holiday(I assume he’s their best?) on Luka or just concede Lukas gonna get his and try stopping Irving. Holidays kinda built like Dort.

So maybe: white/brown on Irving, holiday/brown on Luka, white/brown on DJJ, Tatum on PJ and Zinger on Gafford?

Stopping lobs to lively and gafford was incredibly difficult for Rudy gobert, how’s horford or zinger going to do it?

Dallas has 50 more lobs in the playoffs than the next closest team…that’s huge

if i'm boston the best way to defend luka is to make him work on the defensive side of the ball.  consistently him in  PnR action.  make him work through screens.  make him chase off-ball around the floor.  

[Rex Kramer 1331]

On 6/4/2024 at 9:01 AM, Post Oak said:

I dislike Parsons much more than KP

Extending Nico

 

Nobody hates KP. Parsons is projecting himself onto KP. Nobody likes Parsons. 

[Rex Kramer 1331]

Mavs in 6

[Rex Kramer 1331]

On 6/3/2024 at 10:41 PM, gsoda3 said:

yes

This is pathetic

[fellside 1113]

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

if i'm boston the best way to defend luka is to make him work on the defensive side of the ball.  consistently him in  PnR action.  make him work through screens.  make him chase off-ball around the floor.  

Dallas will just switch everything.

[Rex Kramer 1331]

4 minutes ago, fellside said:

Dallas will just switch everything.

Yes they will. I mean I guess the idea has merit, but we are an excellent defensive team, and that includes Luka. Yes, Luka is a plus defender. If he is worn out, it’d be a change from the past series where they tried the same shit and failed. Also if he’s worn out, Kyrie can take over. 

We have such a luxury it’s not fair. We have been the best team in hoops since the trade and that includes the Celtics. I see tremendous value in the odds. We may not win at all, but we are better than in ‘11, and facing an opponent that is slightly worse (maybe the same - hard to tell with garbage East). 

[Trey3216 15343]

16 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yes they will. I mean I guess the idea has merit, but we are an excellent defensive team, and that includes Luka. Yes, Luka is a plus defender. If he is worn out, it’d be a change from the past series where they tried the same shit and failed. Also if he’s worn out, Kyrie can take over. 

We have such a luxury it’s not fair. We have been the best team in hoops since the trade and that includes the Celtics. I see tremendous value in the odds. We may not win at all, but we are better than in ‘11, and facing an opponent that is slightly worse (maybe the same - hard to tell with garbage East). 

Agree fully.  Although in '11 we had 2 defensive X-factors ideally situated to give Lebron fits.  A 6'5'', meaty Jason Kidd to front and a lengthy, scrappy Matrix to force Lebron into settling.  

 

I don't think a lot of pundits and Boston-stans realize how quick and heady Lively and Gafford are.  They keep saying "they'll just pull them out of the paint" as though those 2 can't defend the perimeter against a big man that can shoot.  

[Skipper 6127]

20 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

We may not win at all, but we are better than in ‘11, and facing an opponent that is slightly worse (maybe the same - hard to tell with garbage East). 

The garbage east is why it's hard for me to gauge at all.  I've watched less Non-Mavs NBA than probably ever this season but especially the East.  I watched some of the Knicks series and some of the close games with Boston and Indiana but that's about it.  Just zero interest in eastern conference basketball considering it was a foregone conclusion who would win.   I feel like the Mavs are rightful dogs but definitely a path to winning.  Basically the same way I felt about the 2011 series.  We have absolutely zero idea how Boston will play with actual adversity.  Need to get a series lead and see if they panic/press.

[gsoda3 3245]

26 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

I don't think a lot of pundits and Boston-stans realize how quick and heady Lively and Gafford are.  They keep saying "they'll just pull them out of the paint" as though those 2 can't defend the perimeter against a big man that can shoot.  

lively yeah he's alright on the perimeter but gafford is not good at all out there.  we're going to find out really quickly, i mean in the first 3 possessions quickly, what happens when gafford tries to guard kp or tatum on the line and the rotating starts happening.  please be not awful.  i'm ok with a single digit negative plus minus, just don't be awful.