Groundbreaking espn study shows that most schools tweet more about men’s sports than women’s sports

[shadow_operative 15,932]

whoooooole lotta misguided, unfounded, gen z demands for “equality” here. i can’t lie, this shit makes me weep for the future. it’s not just that female athletes are demanding to be exalted in the same light as their male counterparts, the ones who actually bring in eyeballs and money, it’s that national publications like espn continue to feed into these delusions, giving them a platform to whine about the fact that their sports programs- which lose money- don’t get as much attention as the men’s teams that bring in billions of dollars of revenue. it’s all just so ridiculous.

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/38632774/notre-dame-power-five-schools-gender-bias-tweets-analysis?appsrc=sc&RuleNumber=11&consent_mode=ccpa&appearance=dark#findings

 

also for the record, Texas was the no.1 school in terms of social media equality. ND was last. 

Edited October 26, 2023 by shadow_operative

[Vertigo 20,335]

[JBJ 3,666]

Texas is the most biased towards women's sports in social media, not most equal.

I wonder if LHN twitter were included how that would change.

[Incredulity 11,683]

THE “LADY” LABEL

Many college women's teams historically have been called the "Lady [insert mascot here]" -- the Lady Bears, Lady Jays, Lady Rebels. Some viewed the practice as assigning a second-class status to women's teams. They're not athletes, they're female athletes. While most schools have dropped "Lady" from their mascot, and others have updated their handles since ESPN's analysis, some team Twitter handles still designate their women's team with a "W" or "women," without a corresponding "M" or "men's" designation for the men.

 

[Js1 85,596]

14 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

continue to feed into these delusions, giving them a platform to whine about the fact that their sports programs- which lose money- don’t get as much attention as the men’s teams

This is the fucking most incel thing you could have written.  Which is IRONIC coming from your use of this platform that allows you to whine incessantly. 

[Vertigo 20,335]

This whole thing comes down to fan interest. If you were to separate women's sports into their own twitter account, they would have 1/100th of the following as the men's sports. It ain't hard. 

[Incredulity 11,683]

9 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

This whole thing comes down to fan interest. If you were to separate women's sports into their own twitter account, they would have 1/100th of the following as the men's sports. It ain't hard. 

[Herpa Derpa 6,132]

No matter how much you tell me to care about something I don't care about, I am not going to care. I don't care about women's sports and I won't ever care about them. Just like I will never care about cricket or chess. Niche interests that will never change no matter how many tweets are twatted.

[bad_teammate 13,225]

Not football.

Learn how to write.

[LonghornBreeder 550]

How'd I get to the cloak room?

 

I didn't click on it.

[Dutchrudder 11,152]

We will never have true equality until e-sports are recognized alongside their other athletic counterparts. Elite StarCraft players deserve to be treated the same way as 5 star football recruits.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

21 minutes ago, Js1 said:

This is the fucking most incel thing you could have written.  Which is IRONIC coming from your use of this platform that allows you to whine incessantly. 

feel free to call it what you want, but saying stuff like this:

is completely self deluded, and not based in reality in any way. imagine if high A baseball players started demanding that they get as much attention, recognition, and money as MLB players. would you take them seriously? would you think that a platform like ESPN should commit incalculable amounts of time and money championing that cause? 

[linux 1,662]

I mean for fucks sakes it is a fucking tweet, all schools should have an intern come up with a tweet once in a while for women's sports to create the semblance of parity.

[linux 1,662]

2 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

We will never have true equality until e-sports are recognized alongside their other athletic counterparts. Elite StarCraft players deserve to be treated the same way as 5 star football recruits.

This but unironically I have gone to CSGO majors and they are the fucking bomb. Even my old dinosaur dad was into them without ever watching a second before.

[Pancho 45,044]

38 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

whoooooole lotta misguided, unfounded, gen z demands for “equality” here. . 

Equity, not equality.

 

 

 

And this should probably be on the DT board 

 

[Nicole44 22,078]

That’s a real shame because for many years women have been the only ones winning anything. Men: baseball (nope), basketball (nope) football (nope not even fucking close.) we should be proud of our women! They win shit. 

[JBJ 3,666]

6 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

 

Send me the pitch deck and I'll decide if it's charity or investment.

[Helobious 9,466]

Is Livvy Dunne not the most famous college athlete rn?

[shadow_operative 15,932]

so the logic here is that, since there are more women’s sports teams,l (including cross country, water polo, golf, etc) there should be more tweets about women’s sports than men’s sports. that’s just ridiculous. there are reasons that alabama football and duke hoops get more tweets than iowa women’s lacrosse. acting like this is some huge problem is just asinine.

here’s a question: how many tweets being made by fans and twitter users are about women’s collegiate athletics teams, and how many are about men’s teams? why would we punish schools for tweeting about what their fan bases want to see? because “equality”? 

Edited October 26, 2023 by shadow_operative

[texifornia 57,154]

7 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

That’s a real shame because for many years women have been the only ones winning anything. Men: baseball (nope), basketball (nope) football (nope not even fucking close.) we should be proud of our women! They win shit. 

Men's swimming and tennis have entered the chat.

[ztejas 43,545]

11 minutes ago, linux said:

This but unironically I have gone to CSGO majors and they are the fucking bomb. Even my old dinosaur dad was into them without ever watching a second before.

Counterstrike is the shit. I was really into the pro scene for some time but haven't watched much in awhile. Watching C9 win the Boston major is pretty high on my list of best "sports" moments that I've watched. 

And female video game streamers make a fucking killing. 

[Helobious 9,466]

2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Men's swimming and tennis have entered the chat.

In fairness real men don’t do those sports 

[South Austin 52,625]

I firmly believe that (1) female college athletes should be treated equally, and that means equal media exposure, and (2) that equal media exposure should include a substantial volume of nude shots.

[JBJ 3,666]

10 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Is Livvy Dunne not the most famous college athlete rn?

Study was from Twitter, not OF.

[Frank Drebin 5,653]

12 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

That’s a real shame because for many years women have been the only ones winning anything. Men: baseball (nope), basketball (nope) football (nope not even fucking close.) we should be proud of our women! They win shit. 

You go to a lot of their games?

[Frank Drebin 5,653]

19 minutes ago, linux said:

This but unironically I have gone to CSGO majors and they are the fucking bomb. Even my old dinosaur dad was into them without ever watching a second before.

[ztejas 43,545]

6 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Men's swimming and tennis have entered the chat.

Golf also has two titles since 2010.

[Js1 85,596]

35 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said:

No matter how much you tell me to care about something I don't care about, I am not going to care. I don't care about women's sports and I won't ever care about them. Just like I will never care about cricket or chess. Niche interests that will never change no matter how many tweets are twatted.

And you don’t have to care about it. If you don’t care, Don’t consume the content. Are more tweets about women’s sports going to turn you off from sports completely? No 

Schools should be showcasing all of their athletes equally. Unfortunately they’ll assign one SID to 4 women’s “lesser” sports so it’s harder to create content 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Js1

[Had Enough 2,088]

Schools should be showcasing all of their athletes equally.

I do not recall many tweets about our deep snapper or the bullpen catcher. Why not?

[Js1 85,596]

Just now, Had Enough said:

 

I do not recall many tweets about our deep snapper or the bullpen catcher. Why not?

 

I mean, Nate Boyer was featured quite a bit when he was where? 

[52-80 19,262]

This economy of artisanal, boutique equality-grievances sure is booming. 

Has ESPN hired a lawfirm to conduct a study comparing the level of total coverage they give to Ohio State football and North Carolina basketball over UTEP track & field? Maybe pay some leading sociologists to explain why and set a task force to right this injustice. 

[52-80 19,262]

20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Are more tweets about women’s sports going to turn you off from sports completely? 

Are more tweets about mens sports is why mens sports have more public interest?

[LTtxfan 49,371]

11 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

I do not recall many tweets about our deep snapper or the bullpen catcher. Why not?

 

Come On...

Surly posts plenty about "South Austin's Mom"

[Longhornlove 4,896]

[NeverMarryAStripper 21,935]

I think there were quite a few tweets about our bullpen catcher when got caught drinking on the job

[texifornia 57,154]

41 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Golf also has two titles since 2010.

Between the three, we really are a country club athletic department 

[shadow_operative 15,932]

43 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Schools should be showcasing all of their athletes equally.

no they should not, for many obvious reasons. this is like saying that every player for the UT football team should get equal playing time. it’s based on nothing but a misguided striving for “equality”. 

[linux 1,662]

45 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Most exemplary example.

 

[shadow_operative 15,932]

29 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I mean, Nate Boyer was featured quite a bit when he was where? 

exactly. why was he featured so prominently when none of our other deep snappers ever got any attention? because he’d earned that attention by having a story that people wanted to follow. if UT social media started posting about all sports equally then they’d find their online follower count plummeting in no time.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

18 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

I think there were quite a few tweets about our bullpen catcher when got caught drinking on the job

this is actually hilarious, the fact that we indeed have had plenty of social media attention paid recently to our deep snapper and our bullpen catcher. HE’s point remains, but that’s pretty damm funny.

[TwiceHorn 31,541]

Well, the reason for this is mostly that women's sports are less popular than men's and have a smaller audience.

But, part of the reason for that is that women's sports havent been around very long, and maybe women don't watch them.

And a big reason for that is because until fairly recently, it was thought women shouldn't play sports, or maybe even watch them.

And the reason for that is that it was "unladylike," or not what men and society thought they should do

And so on and so forth.

So, this particular stat is not very useful for advancing any kind of an equality argument, but you don't have to go very far below the surface to find some misogyny that bears at least some responsibility for the differential.

[linux 1,662]

15 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

no they should not, for many obvious reasons. this is like saying that every player for the UT football team should get equal playing time. it’s based on nothing but a misguided striving for “equality”. 

We are talking about fucking tweets, when you put a player over another it is because only 11 are allowed on the field

Think man, think!

 

[Nueces River Rat 5,539]

Men's Sport are the primary revenue  generator even in some of the most piss poor operated athletic programs

Makes good business sense to promote the money makers.   No?

 

 

 

 

[ztejas 43,545]

25 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Between the three, we really are a country club athletic department 

Pfffft. Let me know when you have an equestrian title.

#ponyup

(swimming and diving is also country club as fuck)

[Kwix 2,199]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Pfffft. Let me know when you have an equestrian title.

#ponyup

(swimming and diving is also country club as fuck)

Do country clubs typically have horses? 

[ztejas 43,545]

2 minutes ago, Kwix said:

Do country clubs typically have horses? 

You're right. It's just the next level of obnoxious wealth. 

[shadow_operative 15,932]

12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

but you don't have to go very far below the surface to find some misogyny that bears at least some responsibility for the differential.

while i agree with this, i will say that a multitude of famous professional female athletes have done tremendous harm to their cause with their dismissive and flippant attitudes, along with their strong yet uninformed opinions. i’m talking megan rapinoe, candace parker, brittney griner, kelsey plum, and so on- some of the biggest names in women’s sports, who have been out here demanding things that they have not earned, particularly the women’s basketball players whose league loses millions of dollars every single year and only exists because of men’s basketball. there is zero humility or gratitude, and instead just this flippant, demanding attitude that they deserve so much more, when factually, empirically they do not.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

13 minutes ago, linux said:

We are talking about fucking tweets, when you put a player over another it is because only 11 are allowed on the field

Think man, think!

 

promoting water polo and rowing (and the other couple dozen sports on campus) an equal amount to the football and basketball teams would be detrimental to athletic departments and their bottom lines. there’s a reason that brooks starts over baxter, just like there’s a reason that the football team gets posted about more than women’s golf.

[Nueces River Rat 5,539]

And the fact ESPN makes this some sort of big deal is why they laid off some of their most competent staffers a few months ago.  And then turned around and retained talent like Lowell Galindo and Desmond Howard....

This earth shattering stuff to these clowns.

[linux 1,662]

2 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

promoting water polo and rowing (and the other couple dozen sports on campus) an equal amount to the football and basketball teams would be detrimental to athletic departments and their bottom lines. there’s a reason that brooks starts over baxter, just like there’s a reason that the football team gets posted about more than women’s golf.

Because there are only 11 allowed on the field, this is also dumb because the team could be playing 21 personel, both would be starters.

Again, think.