THE College Football Playoff Rankings Thread [MICH,WASH,TEX,ALA]

[dcar00 14035]

7 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Because the committee puts more weight in who you lose to than who you beat.

they lost to a undefeated Washington and we lost to a 2 loss ou. If we don’t shit the bed in October this doesn’t matter.

right, and additionally they don't care about SOS for one loss teams.

Edited November 26, 2023 by dcar00

[89Horn 1492]

36 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

You've said over and over again that the committee will throw out their guidelines and do whatever they want. Don't lie. 

Look, it really is not that difficult.  A “guideline” is a general recommendation.  It’s not a requirement.  See the clip below from Pirates of the Caribbean for help and understanding. Go to the 25 second mark.
 

Here are two hypothetical examples of the use of a “guideline” and mandatory, no exceptions criteria.  See if you can figure out which is which.
 

In making its selection determination -

the committee considers whether a one loss candidate school is its conference champion in comparison to one or more one loss candidate schools that are not their respective conference champions.

compare with

the committee shall select a one loss conference champion candidate school over a one loss non-conference champion candidate school.

I can’t break it down any simpler.

 

[dcar00 14035]

12 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Yea they lost to an undefeated Michigan and we lost to a 2 loss ou. Ap voters and the committee look at losses more than wins no matter how many times they say “the body of work”. 

there is and has never been any reason to schedule tough out of conference games.  The poll era and committee's have proven this over and over again.  you just need to make sure you go 3-0 in OOC.  they lie all the time about body of work/SOS

[blutow 222]

5 minutes ago, dec3169 said:

When they ranked Oregon above us we lost to an undefeated ou.  It makes more sense now than it did then.

OU was no longer undefeated when the first CFP rankings came out.  They had just lost to Kansas 3 days prior and had almost lost to UCF the prior week.  It made our loss look pretty bad while Oregon was rolling (eye test and win against Utah right before rankings).  If OU stayed undefeated (like washington did), we never would have been behind Oregon.  I never understood why everyone was so happy about OU losing when it was bad for Texas, best case was we beat an undefeated OU in the CCG (would have been good on so many levels).  I like to see OU to lose as much as the next guy, but not when it hurts Texas.     

[mwaadeeb 1152]

6 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Look, it really is not that difficult.  A “guideline” is a general recommendation.  It’s not a requirement.  See the clip below from Pirates of the Caribbean for help and understanding. Go to the 25 second mark.
 

Here are two hypothetical examples of the use of a “guideline” and mandatory, no exceptions criteria.  See if you can figure out which is which.
 

In making its selection determination -

the committee considers whether a one loss candidate school is its conference champion in comparison to one or more one loss candidate schools that are not their respective conference champions.

compare with

the committee shall select a one loss conference champion candidate school over a one loss non-conference champion candidate school.

I can’t break it down any simpler.

 

I agree with that, Jesus. People are arguing that there isn't a consideration at all. There's no obligation. They can and will do what they want. 

[wood 11164]

NSIAP ...

 

[Dahobbs 17447]

4 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

I agree with that, Jesus. People are arguing that there isn't a consideration at all. There's no obligation. They can and will do what they want. 

You're not very smart, are you?

[jimmyjazz 45560]

I think it's a lot harder to definitively rank conferences than people believe.  There is so little connectivity.  The sample size is too small.  But, "the SEC is just so tough" continues to be the status quo, even though there is plenty of evidence from bowl games over the years that it's not really true.  Sure, it's a tough league, but it's not the ONLY tough league.

[Hagbard Celine 10763]

2 hours ago, oh_snap said:

I feel like a lot of stupid people on here are forgetting the next committee ranking comes out this Tuesday… not after the CCGs.

no one is forgetting this at all

every post on here today is about the ranking in 53 hours

[Horn of Gabriel 1590]

2 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

Rage all you want, I didn’t design the system.  I’d have left it the way it was 25 years ago and just let the writers pick after all the dust of the New Years Bowl’s settled. 

This is a joke, right?  Right?

You'd prefer a system where WRITERS who 1) admit they don't watch many of the games, 2) are homers, and 3) include people like Kirk Bohls unilaterally declare a MNC based on teams that DIDN'T settle it on the field?  A system that dis-incentivizes marquee OOC games so you can retain a perfect record by loading up on creampuffs, where multiple teams end the season undefeated and all stake a claim to the MNC, and where the very best teams rarely if ever play each other at the culmination of the season?  A system where fat cats in cheesy colored ill-fitting blazers travel around on boondoggles to see the top teams as part of their pseudo money laundering bowl setup? That's the system you'd prefer?

The 4 team CFP isn't perfect but it's a million times better than the BCS, which was a billion times better than the bowl system.  The 12-team CFP will be nirvana for people who actually enjoy seeing, you know, the best teams actually play against each other and settle it on the field.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5784]

5 minutes ago, wood said:

NSIAP ...

 

 

And if we are being honest, Oregon State being ranked is kinda bullshit

[dec3169 501]

13 minutes ago, blutow said:

OU was no longer undefeated when the first CFP rankings came out.  They had just lost to Kansas 3 days prior and had almost lost to UCF the prior week.  It made our loss look pretty bad while Oregon was rolling (eye test and win against Utah right before rankings).  If OU stayed undefeated (like washington did), we never would have been behind Oregon.  I never understood why everyone was so happy about OU losing when it was bad for Texas, best case was we beat an undefeated OU in the CCG (would have been good on so many levels).  I like to see OU to lose as much as the next guy, but not when it hurts Texas.     

Thanks - I've slept since then.

[dcar00 14035]

5 minutes ago, wood said:

NSIAP ...

 

This would be great and all, if the committee actually considered SOS.

[hookem48 4631]

36 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I'm not talking about AP Ranking.  I know it doesn't matter. why is Oregon over Texas in the playoff ranking right now(as of the latest ranking)?

Because they've looked a hell of a lot better.

[dcar00 14035]

3 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

Because they've looked a hell of a lot better.

right, recent eye test.  even though they lost to the only very good team on their schedule.  everything else they talk about is bullshit.

[mwaadeeb 1152]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

This would be great and all, if the committee actually considered SOS.

Here we go again. Why is this information being posted if not to influence the committee? SOS matters. H2H matters. Common opponents matter. The guidelines matter. Ultimately they may chunk them but it will have to be a close call. 

I'm too lazy to look up their process but if someone tells me the committee works on a secret ballot or it's all mailed in with no accountability amongst themselves then I'll take it all back and submit myself for board-flagellation.

[Hmbre97 6297]

Y'all need to quit arguing about Oregon. Per the metrics we should be ahead of them but the committee has made their choice and nothing that happened this weekend or will happen next weekend will move the needle. They're going to stick their guns on this one, especially with Nix in the Heisman conversation. Only way we jump them is with a Washington win in the PAC CCG and they pick up a second loss. The eventual PAC12 winner is in either way.

 

Our only realistic paths in at this point:

1. FSU loses - we're in

OR

2. Bama wins - we're in 

[chemHORN 1239]

Now knowing the outcome of the other games this weekend and the fact we are playing OSU in the Big 12 title game, I wish we hadn't played that Yormark video at the end of the game.  With us needing others to lose to make the playoff, big 12 refs will be doing everything they can to screw us against a team that is magical at figuring out ways to get bullshit calls against us.  We are gonna have to play lights out and extremely clean.  Our lineman are gonna need to learn how to block with their hands tied up behind their backs.  

Edited November 26, 2023 by chemHORN

[wood 11164]

1 minute ago, chemHORN said:

Now knowing the outcome of the other games this weekend and the fact we are playing OSU in the Big 12 title game, I wish we hadn't played that Yormark video at the end of the game.  With us needing others to lose to make the playoff, big 12 refs will be doing everything they can to screw us against a team that is magical at figuring out ways to get bullshit calls against us.  We are gonna have to play lights out and extremely clean.  

Nothing changed with that video. He already knew how we felt and he was always gonna try to fuck us anyway. It don't make a shit. Fuck errrbody.

[dcar00 14035]

5 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

Y'all need to quit arguing about Oregon. Per the metrics we should be ahead of them but the committee has made their choice and nothing that happened this weekend or will happen next weekend will move the needle. They're going to stick their guns on this one, especially with Nix in the Heisman conversation. Only way we jump them is with a Washington win in the PAC CCG and they pick up a second loss. The eventual PAC12 winner is in either way.

 

Our only realistic paths in at this point:

1. FSU loses - we're in

OR

2. Bama wins - we're in 

not so sure about #2.  Bama, Wash/Ore, FSU, Mich

[USNALonghorn 5024]

Just now, wood said:

Nothing changed with that video. He already knew how we felt and he was always gonna try to fuck us anyway. It don't make a shit. Fuck errrbody.

If anything, that video highlighted and made the bias even more public and obvious. There will be a lot of people watching the B12 CCG.

[C-Man 27058]

Despite all the wackiness in yesterday's games, there were zero surprise outcomes and certainly none that did Texas any favors. I said a few weeks ago I wasn't going to worry about CFP scenarios and that I was going to be happy with winning the Big 12 Championship and anything beyond that was gravy. I also didn't think we had a team that could win it all anyways. I'm not sure I believe that last part anymore. Let's hope the chaos we nearly got this weekend happens next weekend -- go Iowa (LOL), go Bama (maybe), go Oregon (I guess -- they'll win, I'm nearly certain of it) and especially go Louisville (FSU is nowhere near a CFP-worthy team with no Jordan Travis).

I guess we'll likely need two of those to pop for us to get in if we beat the Pokes unless Iowa pulls off a miracle against Michigan. That would eliminate the Big 10 from the conversation. (EDIT: Louisville beats FSU should do the trick.)

Edited November 26, 2023 by C-Man

[Hmbre97 6297]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

not so sure about #2.  Bama, Wash/Ore, FSU, Mich

No way unless Alabama beats Georgia something like 50-13 and we go tripple overtime with OSU

 

Much like Oregon has the poll momentum over us, we have the same over Alabama. If it comes down to us being the Big12 champ and them being the SEC champ, we get it via H2H and all the talking head have said as such as well. Especially after their debacle against an awful Auburn team.  

[NoName 16305]

Full text since Twitter is dumb:

Ohio State is ranked behind Oregon.

OSU has:
- better loss
- 2 ranked wins (both ranked higher than Oregon's 1 ranked win)

This year, more than any I can remember, has told me that voters do not care about strength of schedule. And there is /zero/ upside to scheduling big OOC opponents.

Oregon's best win is 5-4 vs P5 teams, played no P5 OOC.

OSU's best win is a top-10 PSU. 2nd best win is #16 Notre Dame. 

Do not schedule big-time OOC games

Do not play in a conference that has better competition

Do everything you can to minimize the loss column and impress voters with multi-score wins over bad teams

Those in charge of stewarding our sport are failing on multiple fronts

 

[wood 11164]

1 minute ago, USNALonghorn said:

If anything, that video highlighted and made the bias even more public and obvious. There will be a lot of people watching the B12 CCG.

Yep. Great point. Kind of a preemptive strike, if you will. Put a lot of eyes on Yormark and his idiotic vendetta.

[Hagbard Celine 10763]

1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

I want to see FSU lose #1 and Bama win #2. Texas will need Bama to win to boost its resume.

except a bama loss clears out 1 of the teams above us

 

[Bateshorn 9905]

5 minutes ago, NoName said:

Full text since Twitter is dumb:

Ohio State is ranked behind Oregon.

OSU has:
- better loss
- 2 ranked wins (both ranked higher than Oregon's 1 ranked win)

This year, more than any I can remember, has told me that voters do not care about strength of schedule. And there is /zero/ upside to scheduling big OOC opponents.

Oregon's best win is 5-4 vs P5 teams, played no P5 OOC.

OSU's best win is a top-10 PSU. 2nd best win is #16 Notre Dame. 

Do not schedule big-time OOC games

Do not play in a conference that has better competition

Do everything you can to minimize the loss column and impress voters with multi-score wins over bad teams

Those in charge of stewarding our sport are failing on multiple fronts

 

While I don’t disagree with the gist of this post, I’m not sure hanging your hat on underwhelming victories over *checks notes* Penn State and Notre Dame is where I’d build the foundation for my thesis. 

[BurgleBro 772]

Why do they have Tulane being a thing??? In what world does the best team left out of the playoffs play the 17th ranked team overall???

 

[BurgleBro 772]

8 minutes ago, NoName said:

Full text since Twitter is dumb:

Ohio State is ranked behind Oregon.

OSU has:
- better loss
- 2 ranked wins (both ranked higher than Oregon's 1 ranked win)

This year, more than any I can remember, has told me that voters do not care about strength of schedule. And there is /zero/ upside to scheduling big OOC opponents.

Oregon's best win is 5-4 vs P5 teams, played no P5 OOC.

OSU's best win is a top-10 PSU. 2nd best win is #16 Notre Dame. 

Do not schedule big-time OOC games

Do not play in a conference that has better competition

Do everything you can to minimize the loss column and impress voters with multi-score wins over bad teams

Those in charge of stewarding our sport are failing on multiple fronts

 

That was Texas strategy most the last 15 years and we failed to win the conference and convert that into a national title. 

 

 

[wood 11164]

5 minutes ago, NoName said:

Full text since Twitter is dumb:

Ohio State is ranked behind Oregon.

OSU has:
- better loss
- 2 ranked wins (both ranked higher than Oregon's 1 ranked win)

This year, more than any I can remember, has told me that voters do not care about strength of schedule. And there is /zero/ upside to scheduling big OOC opponents.

Oregon's best win is 5-4 vs P5 teams, played no P5 OOC.

OSU's best win is a top-10 PSU. 2nd best win is #16 Notre Dame. 

Do not schedule big-time OOC games

Do not play in a conference that has better competition

Do everything you can to minimize the loss column and impress voters with multi-score wins over bad teams

Those in charge of stewarding our sport are failing on multiple fronts

Yep. @HornSports was also talking about the same thing. Apparently being undefeated against a shit schedule trumps 1 loss against a very good schedule, even when that loss is a close one. It's the same shit we all hated when the polls ruled everything. There needs to be a system. I guess we're getting a bit more of that next year, but it doesn't help now.

[Red Five 40665]

3 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

Why do they have Tulane being a thing??? In what world does the best team left out of the playoffs play the 17th ranked team overall???

 

Are you asking how the bowl selections work?

[Bateshorn 9905]

32 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

This is a joke, right?  Right?

You'd prefer a system where WRITERS who 1) admit they don't watch many of the games, 2) are homers, and 3) include people like Kirk Bohls unilaterally declare a MNC based on teams that DIDN'T settle it on the field?  A system that dis-incentivizes marquee OOC games so you can retain a perfect record by loading up on creampuffs, where multiple teams end the season undefeated and all stake a claim to the MNC, and where the very best teams rarely if ever play each other at the culmination of the season?  A system where fat cats in cheesy colored ill-fitting blazers travel around on boondoggles to see the top teams as part of their pseudo money laundering bowl setup? That's the system you'd prefer?

The 4 team CFP isn't perfect but it's a million times better than the BCS, which was a billion times better than the bowl system.  The 12-team CFP will be nirvana for people who actually enjoy seeing, you know, the best teams actually play against each other and settle it on the field.

In a sense, we are still, to some degree, at the whims of a beauty contest. I totally agree we need to expand the playoffs, but short of giving the  P5 conference champs auto bids and then some sort of ranked wild card system (which still creates a beauty contest issue), I don’t know how you don’t end up with somebody complaining that “We did x, y, and z, and it’s total bullshit that this other team is in and we aren’t”

[Treefidy 1463]

Anyone thinking teams going undefeated and taking a guaranteed spot benefits us are not thinking it through.  13-0 P5 is getting in this year ending the discussion for each of those 4 spots. The more spots available, and the more 1 loss teams vying for those 4 spots, the more the committee has to look at H2H, conference championship, SOS, common opponents, ($$ potential), best wins,  and all the rest.   Our odds improve on all accounts.

Let all the undefeated lose next week and the final poll probably looks like Bama, UT, UO, and UM/UGA can fight for 4th

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2870]

We are likely heading to the Cotton Bowl to play Mizzou. 2 weeks straight in Arlington.

[wood 11164]

4 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

In a sense, we are still, to some degree, at the whims of a beauty contest. I totally agree we need to expand the playoffs, but short of giving the  P5 conference champs auto bids and then some sort of ranked wild card system (which still creates a beauty contest issue), I don’t know how you don’t end up with somebody complaining that “We did x, y, and z, and it’s total bullshit that this other team is in and we aren’t”

That's still a massive improvement over now. At least then conf champs get in regardless of the relative beauty of any loss or losses they might have, and the beauty contest is moved farther down the list. No matter how many teams you put in the playoff, there will be arguments about the final spots.

Edited November 26, 2023 by wood

[Doc Sam Beckett 5784]

Play the scenario game all you want, but the fucking secsecsec is not being left out of the playoffs.

[Horn of Gabriel 1590]

7 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

In a sense, we are still, to some degree, at the whims of a beauty contest. I totally agree we need to expand the playoffs, but short of giving the  P5 conference champs auto bids and then some sort of ranked wild card system (which still creates a beauty contest issue), I don’t know how you don’t end up with somebody complaining that “We did x, y, and z, and it’s total bullshit that this other team is in and we aren’t”

The gravity of the beauty contest argument means a lot less when it's two teams arguing over who should be #12 or 13.  The bowl system was the ultimate beauty contest, pining for those days is putting the car into reverse and mashing down on the gas.

[Yesh 904]

It makes me ragey to think about a one-loss non-conference champion TCU and Ohio State getting in last year, or no undefeated P5 conference champions the year before.  Fuck!  Talk about shit luck when we finally get our shit together.  And then I started thinking about how Colt McCoy and Vince Young do not have Heisman's, but fucking Baker Mayfield and Eric Crouch and Troy Smith and fucking Mark fucking Ingram do and fuuuccckkk.

But we are 11-1 and I am happy otherwise.

[gmr548 16517]

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The ranked bit is pretty disingenuous, KSU is liable to fall out of the rankings and Utah could re enter (they are right next to each other in the receiving votes field in the AP).

I’d probably give Texas the nod over Oregon based on SOS but there’s not much about handling Oregon State or beating Washington that is going to prompt the committee to drop Oregon below Texas at this point. Maybe Bama beats Georgia by multiple possessions and that win looks significantly better, but that’s about it.

Also that Bama team yesterday isn’t beating Georgia lol

[victory88 5659]

3 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

I have a kid at Oregon. I watch a lot of PAC-12 games.  I also grew up a Horn fan. 
 

If Oregon does what I think they are going to do on Friday, which is put the wood to a Washington team that had every break go their way in the first game, plus Dan Lanning unnecessarily going for it on 4th down and not doing th easy football thing (something Texas fans also have suffered under Sarkisian), and they win by 2+  TDs, y’all will need to absolute demolish Ok. St. to be in the conversation (barring a Michigan, FSU, or Georgia loss). A low scoring single digit win isn’t going to do the trick. It just isn’t. The committee is not going to jump you over an Oregon team that definitively beats an undefeated top 5 team in the CCG.

Rage about it all you want. I will completely give you that the beauty contest is unfair and bullshit. It’s an excellent argument for going to 8 teams. Lanning has been anticipating this and has been very slow to pull starters in blowouts.But be realistic. If it comes down to a beauty contest, your win against Ok. St has to look like Tech and not Iowa State. 

Now maybe Penix will go ham and Lanning will shit the bed, but we are different from A&M in being rational about who we are and what we are looking at 

Stick to watching pac 12 games.  How about the 38-30 beauty contest against tech.  The only reason Oregon was ahead of us initially bc they throttled a ranked colorado team and a ranked Utah team that were both farces.  With no common opponents, being mid way through the season… strength of schedule didn’t come into play and we also had our back up qb.  It’s going to be totally different.  Is Oregon’s win against a team they lost to going to be better than our road win against #3 Bama? Nope.  Will Oregon have a better strength of schedule? Nope.  Will Oregon have beaten more ranked teams? Nope.  Will Oregon have an advantage in common opponent?  Nope.  You’re simply relying on an eye test.  If Texas wins another game 40-17 or along those lines…. Then I’m not sure the committee will be able to find any reason to keep Oregon in front of us.

[Bateshorn 9905]

3 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

The gravity of the beauty contest argument means a lot less when it's two teams arguing over who should be #12 or 13.  The bowl system was the ultimate beauty contest, pining for those days is putting the car into reverse and mashing down on the gas.

I suppose it’s more about the nostalgia of games That Matter on January 1 and the wildness of that day instead of a mid January Monday night. 
 

Point Taken.

[dcar00 14035]

25 minutes ago, NoName said:

Full text since Twitter is dumb:

Ohio State is ranked behind Oregon.

OSU has:
- better loss
- 2 ranked wins (both ranked higher than Oregon's 1 ranked win)

This year, more than any I can remember, has told me that voters do not care about strength of schedule. And there is /zero/ upside to scheduling big OOC opponents.

Oregon's best win is 5-4 vs P5 teams, played no P5 OOC.

OSU's best win is a top-10 PSU. 2nd best win is #16 Notre Dame. 

Do not schedule big-time OOC games

Do not play in a conference that has better competition

Do everything you can to minimize the loss column and impress voters with multi-score wins over bad teams

Those in charge of stewarding our sport are failing on multiple fronts

 

This dude is just figuring this out??  This has been going on for 70 years.  It didn't change with "BCS/Playoffs/etc".   Anyone who doesn't know this shouldn't be allowed to comment on college football.

I repeat, the SEC was NEVER punished for the 4th OOC auto win.  Hell some of them play 2 FCS and still don't get punished.

[Jewish Wang 111]

25 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

No way unless Alabama beats Georgia something like 50-13 and we go tripple overtime with OSU

 

Much like Oregon has the poll momentum over us, we have the same over Alabama. If it comes down to us being the Big12 champ and them being the SEC champ, we get it via H2H and all the talking head have said as such as well. Especially after their debacle against an awful Auburn team.  

Nothing good comes from a Bama win, and they have zero shot of winning a blowout. Any Bama win is likely the worst thing that would happen to us other than an FSU win. We need certainties and eliminations. I’m rooting hard for UGA and UW, though it seems Oregon could rout UW. I strongly suspect the first three seeds will be in order UGA, Mich, and PAC 12 winner. We must have FSU lose and possibly still need some help but probably not. 

[Left Coast 863]

Really nobody in the B1G should be talking SOS.

[dcar00 14035]

8 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

The gravity of the beauty contest argument means a lot less when it's two teams arguing over who should be #12 or 13.  The bowl system was the ultimate beauty contest, pining for those days is putting the car into reverse and mashing down on the gas.

in a 12 team playoff we will be arguing over who gets top 4 to get a bye but that's it.  9-12 are about as likely to win a NC as aggy.

[victory88 5659]

57 minutes ago, wood said:

NSIAP ...

 

But but but… eye test.  Oregon hasn’t played anyone worth a shit except Washington who they lost to.  Same team almost lost to that shitty Tech team we just butt fucked.

[NoctambulantBrobdingnagian 530]

4 hours ago, victory88 said:

You might be a bigger pussy than @satyanash (referring to @Jewish Wang)

Now, you've pissed off both of them.

[Horn of Gabriel 1590]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

in a 12 team playoff we will be arguing over who gets top 4 to get a bye but that's it.  9-12 are about as likely to win a NC as aggy.

You sure?  This year any team in the top 7 or so I could see: Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Oregon, Texas, Bama, Ohio State

[Bateshorn 9905]

4 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Stick to watching pac 12 games.  How about the 38-30 beauty contest against tech.  The only reason Oregon was ahead of us initially bc they throttled a ranked colorado team and a ranked Utah team that were both farces.  With no common opponents, being mid way through the season… strength of schedule didn’t come into play and we also had our back up qb.  It’s going to be totally different.  Is Oregon’s win against a team they lost to going to be better than our road win against #3 Bama? Nope.  Will Oregon have a better strength of schedule? Nope.  Will Oregon have beaten more ranked teams? Nope.  Will Oregon have an advantage in common opponent?  Nope.  You’re simply relying on an eye test.  If Texas wins another game 40-17 or along those lines…. Then I’m not sure the committee will be able to find any reason to keep Oregon in front of us.

They also see middling Texas victories against KSU, ISU, TCU, and Houston where the Longhorns allowed overmatched opponents to stubbornly hang around. The committee isn’t going to consider injuries.  And yes that’s exactly bullshit beauty contest stuff.   
 

I don’t disagree with any of your metrics, but I’m just saying that there is a very strong chance that if UO beats Washington bad on Friday, they won’t care and the Ducks will make the playoffs. Particularly if Texas doesn’t blow the doors off the pokes. And several of us on this thread are trying to prepare the fan base for that.  But I’ve already been told to stfu. So here we are. 
 

 

[The_Great_Hornsby 3329]

3 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

H2H matters only if other things are equal. If Bama wins the SEC they would have a better SOS and the committee won't hesitate to put them above us. We are putting too much weight o H2H imo.

Then why even play the game lol. We absolutely should be ahead of them and that is their cross to bear. Just like we fucked up losing to OU, they fucked up losing to us.