THE College Football Playoff Rankings Thread [MICH,WASH,TEX,ALA]

[Dahobbs 17447]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

In theory our SOR should go above tOSU if we beat OSU. 13th data point.

Probably? I don't know the specifics of the calculation, so it is hard to judge. But, that would make sense. 

[dcar00 14035]

27 minutes ago, Juicy said:

I agree with this. I just don't see Bama beating UGA. 

If Bama wins it makes things a lot more messy. 

As a Michigan Fan I want Oregon, UGA and Florida State to win (sorry Texas) because I think Michigan would crush FSU, especially with no Travis, and I think the only way Michigan gets that Matchup is if UGA/UM/FSU and Oregon all win. 

I think Louisville has a good shot of beating FSU, probably a toss up. If they do, Texas wins and they are in. Without FSU losing I really don't see a way Texas jumps in. *unless Michigan loses. 

 

on what you want to happen, it is an interesting discussion.  I think once they get to the final 4 they then decide seeds and I bet they let Ga play FSU and you play Ore.

[dcar00 14035]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Probably? I don't know the specifics of the calculation, so it is hard to judge. But, that would make sense. 

an avg top 25 team has to play an extra game on our schedule.  I think it bumps us up and tOSU down but you are correct we don't know the calculation.  Is ESPN the only one that does SOR?

[C-Man 27052]

14 minutes ago, Juicy said:

What possible reasoning could they give to have Michigan jump UGA for number 1 when UGA plays Bama and Michigan plays Iowa? 

Same for putting a team with 1 loss over an undefeated team.

I am not saying the committee won't do it, but last year they could have given UGA the "easy" game with TCU and didn't

They weren't going to immediately run Michigan-Ohio State back the very next game in the CFP. That's why Georgia got Ohio State.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10145]

I don't care how we get in, but it sure would be nice to beat Alabama twice in the same season.

[utee94 15745]

30 minutes ago, Juicy said:

Bama. I explained that 5 posts ago. My assumption is that Bama is NOT going to beat UGA. Which is why I said a win over 12-1 Washington is better than a win over 11-2 Bama.

Think some of us missed your specification, but also our entire discussion has been with the assumption that Alabama wins, just as the assumption is that Texas wins. Otherwise, why discuss it at all? We all know what happens to a 2-loss Alabama and its implications on Texas' claim to "best win."

 

 

 

[chainsaw 9838]

I'd also like to see more analysis of a team's resume than the margins of victory, which can be deceiving. For example, Oregon's 8 point win in Lubbock was more of a 1-point win that was padded by a desperation pass that led to a pick six in the final seconds of the game. In contrast, Texas's 50-point win against the same team easily could have been 60+ had the refs called the game fairly.

On the other side of the same coin, we shouldn't be as impressed when teams are blatantly trying to run up the score (which maybe Sark would have been doing if the halftime score was something like 45-7 instead of 26-7). Point being: margins are not the best indicator of how much better Team A is than Team B.

I wouldn't really call this type of analysis the "eye test" because that implies an element of subjectivity (and bias). Instead, I would look to measurables, such as the amount of time it takes to objectively put the game away (which Texas should have been able to do against Houston, K-State, and TCU, but didn't), 1st down conversions, points per possession, and I'd toss out the really obvious outlier data points.

[Frank Drebin 5622]

UH, TCU and K State are pretty easily explained by a QB injury.  

[chainsaw 9838]

2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

UH, TCU and K State are pretty easily explained by a QB injury.  

there were some bad offensive series but Maalik wasn't playing D

[The_Great_Hornsby 3328]

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

there were some bad offensive series but Maalik wasn't playing D

Those two are not as disconnected as you think young grasshopper. 

[C-Man 27052]

OK, let's get right down to it. I need a cheat sheet on what we're rooting for this weekend other than a blanket every-favorite-loses-except-Texas scenario.

 

Pac-12 Championship Game (7 PM, Friday): Oregon vs Washington

Oregon win: Likely drops Washington out of the CFP because the Pac-12 isn't getting two teams into the playoffs and the Huskies have limped to the finish line. It becomes a potential beauty contest between one-loss Oregon and (presumably) one-loss Texas.

Washington win: Basically nails down one of four spots we're hoping Texas can get.

C-Man's pulled-out-his-ass odds chance of each team winning: Oregon 70%, Washington 30%

 

Big 12 Championship Game (11 AM, Saturday): Texas vs Oklahoma State

Texas win: Well, no shit. This a must. Obviously, the bigger the victory the better it looks.

Oklahoma State win: Everything is mute. Forget everything before or after this point.

C-Man's odds: Texas 80%, Oklahoma State 20%

 

SEC Championship Game (3 PM, Saturday): Alabama vs Georgia

Georgia win: The Bulldogs have a spot in the playoff period, likely as the #1 seed (#2 at the worst)

Alabama win: Makes Texas win over Tide look better. Causes some chaos and opens up one of the four spots.

C-Man's odds: Georgia 60%, Alabama 40%

 

Big 10 Championship Game (7 PM, Saturday): Michigan vs Iowa

Michigan win: Locks down the #2 seed, possibly #1 depending on what Georgia does earlier.

Iowa win: The world comes to an end. Obviously, this would be fantastic. It won't happen. But it would be fucking amazing.

C-Man's odds: Michigan 95%, Iowa 5%

 

ACC Championship Game (7 PM, Saturday): Florida State vs Louisville

Florida State win: You would think a win should cinch a playoff berth for the Seminoles since they'd be undefeated P5 champs. But if it's ugly and you know Travis is out, would the committee have the balls to leave them out if somebody like Texas or Oregon is fresh off a massive win in their games? Who cares about setting a precedent? This 4-team format is going away. Let's be honest -- all the committee is doing is throwing the Noles to the wolves if they make them the #4 seed now. Cardale Jones ain't walking through that door. Fuck Billy Napier for not taking care of business last weekend.

Louisville win: Another duh pick. There is no scenario that a Louisville win doesn't benefit the Horns.

C-Man's odds: Florida State 50%, Louisville 50%

 

I've probably put way too much energy trying to make sense of this at this point. And, yes, as the results start coming in perhaps our rooting interests need adjustment on Saturday. Let's go win the last Big 12 Championship and hope something falls our way later in the day.

[chainsaw 9838]

20 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Those two are not as disconnected as you think young grasshopper. 

I hear you, but I don't think we're gonna draw a lot of sympathy from FSU about having to rely on a backup QB

[dieucla98 2937]

16 minutes ago, C-Man said:

OK, let's get right down to it. I need a cheat sheet on what we're rooting for this weekend other than a blanket every-favorite-loses-except-Texas scenario.

 

Pac-12 Championship Game (7 PM, Friday): Oregon vs Washington

Oregon win: Likely drops Washington out of the CFP because the Pac-12 isn't getting two teams into the playoffs and the Huskies have limped to the finish line. It becomes a potential beauty contest between one-loss Oregon and (presumably) one-loss Texas.

Washington win: Basically nails down one of four spots we're hoping Texas can get.

C-Man's pulled-out-his-ass odds chance of each team winning: Oregon 70%, Washington 30%

 

Big 12 Championship Game (11 AM, Saturday): Texas vs Oklahoma State

Texas win: Well, no shit. This a must. Obviously, the bigger the victory the better it looks.

Oklahoma State win: Everything is mute. Forget everything before or after this point.

C-Man's odds: Texas 80%, Oklahoma State 20%

 

SEC Championship Game (3 PM, Saturday): Alabama vs Georgia

Georgia win: The Bulldogs have a spot in the playoff period, likely as the #1 seed (#2 at the worst)

Alabama win: Makes Texas win over Tide look better. Causes some chaos and opens up one of the four spots.

C-Man's odds: Georgia 60%, Alabama 40%

 

Big 10 Championship Game (7 PM, Saturday): Michigan vs Iowa

Michigan win: Locks down the #2 seed, possibly #1 depending on what Georgia does earlier.

Iowa win: The world comes to an end. Obviously, this would be fantastic. It won't happen. But it would be fucking amazing.

C-Man's odds: Michigan 95%, Iowa 5%

 

ACC Championship Game (7 PM, Saturday): Florida State vs Louisville

Florida State win: You would think a win should cinch a playoff berth for the Seminoles since they'd be undefeated P5 champs. But if it's ugly and you know Travis is out, would the committee have the balls to leave them out if somebody like Texas or Oregon is fresh off a massive win in their games? Who cares about setting a precedent? This 4-team format is going away. Let's be honest -- all the committee is doing is throwing the Noles to the wolves if they make them the #4 seed now. Cardale Jones ain't walking through that door. Fuck Billy Napier for not taking care of business last weekend.

Louisville win: Another duh pick. There is no scenario that a Louisville win doesn't benefit the Horns.

C-Man's odds: Florida State 50%, Louisville 50%

 

I've probably put way too much energy trying to make sense of this at this point. And, yes, as the results start coming in perhaps our rooting interests need adjustment on Saturday. Let's go win the last Big 12 Championship and hope something falls our way later in the day.

In no scenario does an undefeated team winning really help Texas - at best it's debatable. Keep it simple, root for chaos.

[Texasborn91 897]

Fuck it. Let the committee leave FSU out, win or lose. Everyone knows they can’t compete in a playoff game. Don’t waste the fucking spot on a slap dick team. 

[BlackCat 415]

If FSU goes undefeated they aren’t getting left out. It’s simple for us, beat Ok State and FSU loses we are in. Vegas thinks Oregon has a better shot than us if it comes down to the two of us. 

[ChickenNuggets 1611]

38 minutes ago, C-Man said:

OK, let's get right down to it. I need a cheat sheet on what we're rooting for this weekend other than a blanket every-favorite-loses-except-Texas scenario.

 

Pac-12 Championship Game (7 PM, Friday): Oregon vs Washington

Oregon win: Likely drops Washington out of the CFP because the Pac-12 isn't getting two teams into the playoffs and the Huskies have limped to the finish line. It becomes a potential beauty contest between one-loss Oregon and (presumably) one-loss Texas.

Washington win: Basically nails down one of four spots we're hoping Texas can get.

C-Man's pulled-out-his-ass odds chance of each team winning: Oregon 70%, Washington 30%

 

Big 12 Championship Game (11 AM, Saturday): Texas vs Oklahoma State

Texas win: Well, no shit. This a must. Obviously, the bigger the victory the better it looks.

Oklahoma State win: Everything is mute. Forget everything before or after this point.

C-Man's odds: Texas 80%, Oklahoma State 20%

 

SEC Championship Game (3 PM, Saturday): Alabama vs Georgia

Georgia win: The Bulldogs have a spot in the playoff period, likely as the #1 seed (#2 at the worst)

Alabama win: Makes Texas win over Tide look better. Causes some chaos and opens up one of the four spots.

C-Man's odds: Georgia 60%, Alabama 40%

 

Big 10 Championship Game (7 PM, Saturday): Michigan vs Iowa

Michigan win: Locks down the #2 seed, possibly #1 depending on what Georgia does earlier.

Iowa win: The world comes to an end. Obviously, this would be fantastic. It won't happen. But it would be fucking amazing.

C-Man's odds: Michigan 95%, Iowa 5%

 

ACC Championship Game (7 PM, Saturday): Florida State vs Louisville

Florida State win: You would think a win should cinch a playoff berth for the Seminoles since they'd be undefeated P5 champs. But if it's ugly and you know Travis is out, would the committee have the balls to leave them out if somebody like Texas or Oregon is fresh off a massive win in their games? Who cares about setting a precedent? This 4-team format is going away. Let's be honest -- all the committee is doing is throwing the Noles to the wolves if they make them the #4 seed now. Cardale Jones ain't walking through that door. Fuck Billy Napier for not taking care of business last weekend.

Louisville win: Another duh pick. There is no scenario that a Louisville win doesn't benefit the Horns.

C-Man's odds: Florida State 50%, Louisville 50%

 

I've probably put way too much energy trying to make sense of this at this point. And, yes, as the results start coming in perhaps our rooting interests need adjustment on Saturday. Let's go win the last Big 12 Championship and hope something falls our way later in the day.

If Alabama wins, do you think both Alabama and Georgia are out of the playoffs?

[The_Great_Hornsby 3328]

41 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I hear you, but I don't think we're gonna draw a lot of sympathy from FSU about having to rely on a backup QB

Our situation was temporary, theirs is permanent

[UTexasFight 9380]

42 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

 

I've probably put way too much energy trying to make sense of this at this point. And, yes, as the results start coming in perhaps our rooting interests need adjustment on Saturday. Let's go win the last Big 12 Championship and hope something falls our way later in the day.

11am conference championships are dumb.

but we tried 7pm conference championships when everything else fell in to place earlier in the day so why not flip it

 

[dcar00 14035]

54 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

there were some bad offensive series but Maalik wasn't playing D

KSU is a good team so shouldn't really be included but it was the TO's by the O that f'd us mostly in that game.

Houston was some suspect D and MM getting thrown in.

Ewers was back.  TCU was an absolute collapse by the D helped by the 15 yard personal foul by Red on the punt return.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

I know this isn't the committee and just media members on Fox but only 2 of the 6 have FSU in the top 4 right now. Sure, 2 of these teams play each other this weekend so they will cancel each other out but it's still interesting what the masses think of FSU right now without their QB. Especially after seeing them play to the wire against a shitty Florida team

[The_Great_Hornsby 3328]

Just now, dcar00 said:

KSU is a good team so shouldn't really be included but it was the TO's by the O that f'd us mostly in that game.

Houston was some suspect D and MM getting thrown in.

Ewers was back.  TCU was an absolute collapse by the D helped by the 15 yard personal foul by Red on the punt return.

Ewers was limited against TCU and ISU. Hell, he still didnt look 100% against Tech. He has looked better each week and the best is yet to come. But that explains a lot of the TCU game and the lack of a blowout against ISU. 

[Bevo14 8274]

1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

I know this isn't the committee and just media members on Fox but only 2 of the 6 have FSU in the top 4 right now. Sure, 2 of these teams play each other this weekend so they will cancel each other out but it's still interesting what the masses think of FSU right now without their QB. Especially after seeing them play to the wire against a shitty Florida team

4 of these clowns think 2 pac-12 teams are going to the playoffs? I'll take their salaries to be wrong all the time, thank you.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Bevo14

[The_Great_Hornsby 3328]

1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

I know this isn't the committee and just media members on Fox but only 2 of the 6 have FSU in the top 4 right now. Sure, 2 of these teams play each other this weekend so they will cancel each other out but it's still interesting what the masses think of FSU right now without their QB. Especially after seeing them play to the wire against a shitty Florida team

Chris "The Bear" Falicia seems like he is a special type of stupid. 

[dcar00 14035]

2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

I know this isn't the committee and just media members on Fox but only 2 of the 6 have FSU in the top 4 right now. Sure, 2 of these teams play each other this weekend so they will cancel each other out but it's still interesting what the masses think of FSU right now without their QB. Especially after seeing them play to the wire against a shitty Florida team

Mark Ingram loves teams without their starting QB...

[The_Great_Hornsby 3328]

1 minute ago, Bevo14 said:

4 of these clowns think 2 pac-12 teams are going to the playoffs? I'll take their salaries to be wrong all the time, thank you.

This is their current top 4

[ITHorn 797]

I think those are just the prognostications for what the standings will be tonight. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense. 

[Bevo14 8274]

Just now, The_Great_Hornsby said:

This is their current top 4

They should probably call it something else besides "CFP Picks" then. 

[dcar00 14035]

3 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Ewers was limited against TCU and ISU. Hell, he still didnt look 100% against Tech. He has looked better each week and the best is yet to come. But that explains a lot of the TCU game and the lack of a blowout against ISU. 

yeah I know about how Ewers looked.  the fact is he played and Malik didn't if someone is discussing play with backup QB's.

[joeycovers 384]

3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Mark Ingram loves teams without their starting QB...

too soon

[dcar00 14035]

would be awesome to get Bama in the champ game and play them with our starting QB for the whole game.

It is funny that Saban is pulling out the VY playbook for Milroe because aggy and ark showed him his OL was uh not good.

[C-Man 27052]

25 minutes ago, ChickenNuggets said:

If Alabama wins, do you think both Alabama and Georgia are out of the playoffs?

No, I think Bama would be in barring some crazy scenarios. I will say that if Bama and Texas both wind up 1-loss conference champs and somehow Bama is in and we're not, then I'll be screaming bloody murder because that shit ain't right.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3328]

It was good to hear Sark on ESPN campaigning for us today should we end up tied with Alabama. 

[JBJ 3649]

2 hours ago, Juicy said:

I agree with this. I just don't see Bama beating UGA. 

If Bama wins it makes things a lot more messy. 

As a Michigan Fan I want Oregon, UGA and Florida State to win (sorry Texas) because I think Michigan would crush FSU, especially with no Travis, and I think the only way Michigan gets that Matchup is if UGA/UM/FSU and Oregon all win. 

I think Louisville has a good shot of beating FSU, probably a toss up. If they do, Texas wins and they are in. Without FSU losing I really don't see a way Texas jumps in. *unless Michigan loses. 

We are a bad matchup for you, but it would make next season's game even more fun if we wound up playing.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

4 of these clowns think 2 pac-12 teams are going to the playoffs? I'll take their salaries to be wrong all the time, thank you.

This is just the rankings right now. Washington and Oregon will cancel each other out. This isn't what they predict will be the final 4 after this weekend

[chainsaw 9838]

Ohio State is not the the best 1 loss team, and nothing can change that. Oregon is not the best 1 loss team, and beating Washington should not change that, but in the eyes of the voters, it could.

[blutow 222]

I'm honestly surprised how many in the media are saying that FSU should be out while one loss Texas/Bama/Oregon should be in.  I think it's wrong, but I want to believe...  If FSU isn't #4 tonight, they are likely done if they don't look impressive in a win on Saturday.  Besides the "better team" argument, I think the media hates the idea that we might get a "wasted" playoff game where FSU isn't competitive.  I don't know how much the committee has the same mindset, but who the hell wants FSU in at this point over a 1 loss Texas, Bama, or Oregon?

[NeverMarryAStripper 21781]

2 hours ago, C-Man said:

OK, let's get right down to it. I need a cheat sheet on what we're rooting for this weekend other than a blanket every-favorite-loses-except-Texas scenario.

 

Pac-12 Championship Game (7 PM, Friday): Oregon vs Washington

Oregon win: Likely drops Washington out of the CFP because the Pac-12 isn't getting two teams into the playoffs and the Huskies have limped to the finish line. It becomes a potential beauty contest between one-loss Oregon and (presumably) one-loss Texas.

Washington win: Basically nails down one of four spots we're hoping Texas can get.

C-Man's pulled-out-his-ass odds chance of each team winning: Oregon 70%, Washington 30%

 

Big 12 Championship Game (11 AM, Saturday): Texas vs Oklahoma State

Texas win: Well, no shit. This a must. Obviously, the bigger the victory the better it looks.

Oklahoma State win: Everything is mute. Forget everything before or after this point.

C-Man's odds: Texas 80%, Oklahoma State 20%

 

SEC Championship Game (3 PM, Saturday): Alabama vs Georgia

Georgia win: The Bulldogs have a spot in the playoff period, likely as the #1 seed (#2 at the worst)

Alabama win: Makes Texas win over Tide look better. Causes some chaos and opens up one of the four spots.

C-Man's odds: Georgia 60%, Alabama 40%

 

Big 10 Championship Game (7 PM, Saturday): Michigan vs Iowa

Michigan win: Locks down the #2 seed, possibly #1 depending on what Georgia does earlier.

Iowa win: The world comes to an end. Obviously, this would be fantastic. It won't happen. But it would be fucking amazing.

C-Man's odds: Michigan 95%, Iowa 5%

 

ACC Championship Game (7 PM, Saturday): Florida State vs Louisville

Florida State win: You would think a win should cinch a playoff berth for the Seminoles since they'd be undefeated P5 champs. But if it's ugly and you know Travis is out, would the committee have the balls to leave them out if somebody like Texas or Oregon is fresh off a massive win in their games? Who cares about setting a precedent? This 4-team format is going away. Let's be honest -- all the committee is doing is throwing the Noles to the wolves if they make them the #4 seed now. Cardale Jones ain't walking through that door. Fuck Billy Napier for not taking care of business last weekend.

Louisville win: Another duh pick. There is no scenario that a Louisville win doesn't benefit the Horns.

C-Man's odds: Florida State 50%, Louisville 50%

 

I've probably put way too much energy trying to make sense of this at this point. And, yes, as the results start coming in perhaps our rooting interests need adjustment on Saturday. Let's go win the last Big 12 Championship and hope something falls our way later in the day.

There isn't anything about this thread that is mute

[Horndog 2218]

Counterpoint to the "Texas was lucky they got Bama early" argument:

For years we have heard about what a meat grinder the SEC schedule is, how every game is a war, that they need to play a powder puff late in the season to recover from the rigors of the 8- game gauntlet, yada yada.

It's lucky for Bama that they played us early in the year while they were still fresh and before all the SEC games took their toll. 

[blutow 222]

2 minutes ago, Horndog said:

Counterpoint to the "Texas was lucky they got Bama early" argument:

For years we have heard about what a meat grinder the SEC schedule is, how every game is a war, that they need to play a powder puff late in the season to recover from the rigors of the 8- game gauntlet, yada yada.

It's lucky for Bama that they played us early in the year while they were still fresh and before all the SEC games took their toll. 

As an outsider, we can't possibly comprehend all the nuances of how hard it is to be an SEC team.  It just means more.  

[Saint Tacky 1610]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Travis is out, would the committee have the balls to leave them out if somebody like Texas or Oregon is fresh off a massive win in their games

 

1 hour ago, BlackCat said:

If FSU goes undefeated they aren’t getting left out. It’s simple for us, beat Ok State and FSU loses we are in. Vegas thinks Oregon has a better shot than us if it comes down to the two of us. 

I can't get my head around the idea that the Seminoles would be punished because their starting quarterback is out for the season. He's a critical component of the season, but not the only one. If FSU goes undefeated they are in.

I have two obvious complaints about the beauty pageant between Texas and Alabama, and Texas and Oregon.

First, beating Georgia, the strength of schedule, or whatever criteria you want to judge Alabama upon takes a backseat to the ultimate criteria. Head to head. Beating a clearly overrated Georgia team on a neutral field does not erase that ass-kicking you took in Tuscaloosa. Period. Case closed. I'm in the minority I presume because I want Bama to beat Georgia. I doubt the NCAA committee will include the Tide, without the Big 12 Champ, Texas. 

Second, Oregon and Texas can each argue that their team only has one loss or that the PAC 12 schedule is tougher than the Big 12's.  Screw the notion that one has looked better in the process too. There was a single common opponent. Texas throttled Texas Tech. Oregon did not. Arguing about the timing or location of the games is moot. Oregon played Tech in only their second game. Meanwhile, Texas faced Tech in the Red Raiders' 12th game. Which Red Raider team was more prepared and more motivated? Oregon played them in Lubbock. What's home-field advantage worth? Seven points? 14? That's a plus 15 (7) or 22 (14) points for Oregon (@+8). In contrast, Texas (@+50) is a plus 43 (-7) or a plus 36 (-14) if you give the Longhorns 7 or 14 points for home-field advantage.  Count home-field advantage at DKR as a 21-point advantage for Texas? That's still a +29 for Texas. Still more impressive than Oregon, and Oregon doesn't reach +29 unless you believe that Lubbock was a 21-point home-field advantage when the Ducks played Texas Tech. FYI, Texas has lost in Lubbock 11 times since 1934 with an average loss margin of 7.8 pts.  Tech has only covered 21 points once against Texas (1994). 

[Horndog 2218]

4 minutes ago, blutow said:

I'm honestly surprised how many in the media are saying that FSU should be out while one loss Texas/Bama/Oregon should be in.  I think it's wrong, but I want to believe...  

I think it's wrong too. But if the committee goes the direction of saying their charge is to figure out the best teams now - in order to justify picking Bama depite H2H - then I can see them rationalizing FSU away. 

I really think they don't want any part of the H2H controversy and may look for a way to avoid it. 

[cafe society 2840]

Floating above the hard-nosed analysis here, I'm just hoping that we beat Okie Lite, Washington beats Nike and Louisville takes out FSU.  Makes the outcome of UGA and Bama a footnote, apart from seeding.

[Red Five 40661]

I hadn't considered them plugging FSU in at #4. Like, "ok you're in because you're undefeated, but we're feeding you to Georgia". 

Edited November 28, 2023 by Red Five
stupidity

[The Dog 43803]

There's actually a narrative out there that Georgia is already in regardless of whether they beat Bama or not. The idea is that they deserve the benefit of the doubt because of being the two time defending champs and could lock out both an undefeated FSU and Big XII champion Texas. 

I knew this was out there but didn't want to give it any oxygen until I saw it and sure enough here's Matt Barrie and fucking Dumbo pushing it.

Edited November 28, 2023 by The Dog

[Texas Wahoo 3383]

 

 

[C-Man 27052]

15 minutes ago, Saint Tacky said:

I doubt the NCAA committee will include the Tide, without the Big 12 Champ, Texas. 

This is what I keep telling myself but we've gotten the shaft before back in 2008. We had head-to-head on OU and got screwed. This system seems to ALWAYS benefit Bama, as evidenced by the number of times they've won a title under Saban despite dropping a game somewhere along the way.

 

15 minutes ago, Horndog said:

I think it's wrong too. But if the committee goes the direction of saying their charge is to figure out the best teams now - in order to justify picking Bama depite H2H - then I can see them rationalizing FSU away. 

I really think they don't want any part of the H2H controversy and may look for a way to avoid it. 

It's definitely weird. But they do it in basketball all the time, right? Star player is out for the season after helping built a #1 or #2 seed. They'll still make the tournament so it's not exactly the same, but they'll ding them in seeding, right?

I get that it feels all wrong but don't we all agree that FSU simply isn't a top four team without Travis in the fold? They will be creating a potential snoozer of a semifinal game.

[Frank Drebin 5622]

If FSU makes it, whoever gets them might as well have a bye week.

[ztejas 43266]

19 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

All of these scenarios show Bama above Texas if they win the SEC, as I have said many times here. In scenario 9, both Bama and UGA are above us. We really shouldn't want Bama to win the SEC. This will cause a lot of chaos/heartache for us. Since one SEC team is guaranteed, I much prefer that to be UGA. 

The person that wrote that is a dipshit that thinks there should/would be an argument between 12-1 Texas and 12-1 Washington. As is any Texas fan that is cheering for fucking Georgia on Saturday. So congrats on aligning yourself with that stupidity. 

[Hagbard Celine 10761]

the GNP of the state of texas dropped a tenth of a percent this week as surlers endlessly debated infinite scenarios with infinite reasons for infinite outcomes and who to root for

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only some of what many wrote will matter in less than 3 hours when the committee releases it's money-shot 2nd-to-last rankings

THIS IS WHERE THEY TELEGRAPH WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO

every postulate voiced thus far can be used to argue for and against any position

and will be used to support the espn narrative, whatever it is

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i was shocked the AP landed jort at 5

this is very bad

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a final note as we count down to tonight's reveal.....

if bama beats georgia, THEY ARE BOTH IN, and if ESPN wants 2 semis matching the sec and the b1g, a narrative will be constructed to explain it to the casuals and pinks, something to the effect of....

"we couldn't separate 8 conference champions each with 1 loss, so we took the only 1-loss team that's not a conference champion (tosu)"

is that stupid an insane?  you bet it is

+++

i'm holding to my forecast for tonight's committee rankings:

1 dawg

2 meatchicken

3 washington

4 florida state

5 bama

6 texas

7 oregon

8 jort

9 louisville

 

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25 minutes ago, blutow said:

I'm honestly surprised how many in the media are saying that FSU should be out while one loss Texas/Bama/Oregon should be in.  I think it's wrong, but I want to believe...  If FSU isn't #4 tonight, they are likely done if they don't look impressive in a win on Saturday.  Besides the "better team" argument, I think the media hates the idea that we might get a "wasted" playoff game where FSU isn't competitive.  I don't know how much the committee has the same mindset, but who the hell wants FSU in at this point over a 1 loss Texas, Bama, or Oregon?

 FSU doesn't pass the eye test at all if you want the 4 best teams for the playoffs. Without their QB, they would drop way down the top 25 in terms of just how good they are now. They would get beat by a lot of top 25 teams now. They wouldn't be one of the 4 best conference winners, either. But if they win the ACC championship, they will have 0 losses. And I'm sure the committee will factor that in. And they will get the 4 spot by default. And proceed to lose in a snoozefest in the semifinal round.

But I get it from an FSU perspective. If we were in their shoes and Ewers was out and we looked bad, and we are hanging on by a thread, we would be livid if we got left out of the playoffs as an undefeated P5 champ in place for a 1 loss team. Luckily this is the last year we have to worry about real good teams getting left out.